Transcripts For RT CrossTalk 20240703

Continent are not exactly clear. Not only did the west approach to africa back fire, it only brought the continent even closer to russia and china. I suppose relations with africa date back to soviet times and have been strengthening recently as russia has proven itself to be a reliable partner to the continent. So the mother, if you see the component of everything difficult times that you find out who your true friends though, when africa was experiencing difficulties. Whether that was slavery, clarity lies ation upon the size. Russia has always been, if not the 1st one, im the country. Then one of the countries quite africa side to how were listed. As the multi paulo world emerges phone, the american dominance, all countries are demanding to be treated as equals. And hes the West Colonial mindset that is cloud in its vision to clearly see that diplomacy is a 2 way street as the other party should not be run off the road. And as parts of africa are openly handling the us, its half an coast in the middle east. Washington continues to delay is departure from iraq of to being repeatedly asked to go home or with a pen to go on, seemingly a bit confused because its insisting that instead of leaving by god it should be protecting americans. Are these attacks put, coalition and iraqi personnel at risk . We call them the government of iraq to take all necessary steps to ensure the safety of us forces in iraq and syria against attacks from these groups. If these attacks continue, we will not hesitate to defend our forces as we have done in the past. Well, that message comes off of a us troops in iraq were attacked by local militias, which washington accuses are being linked to iran, of the car and contingent of 2500 american soldiers stationed in iraq, a part of an International Coalition to fight isis. Well, ship buying that narrative. Since then however, the rocket government has repeatedly asked washington to go home. Is what a Prime Minister had to say even a few months ago. The end of the international calculations mission is necessary for the security and stability of a rock. When necessary, containing some destructive bilateral relations between a wrong and the International Coalition. What time was it . What is the, how the, the yeah, i was discussing americas continued presence in iraq with the International Affairs research. Im on the list of law mistreated homeless. If youre not, theres another law now its far as of the, of the resistance. Its and the iraq is okay its, its still, it has some the basis american basis. Of course, it came from a study after the war and youre not gets agreement between the 2 governments. So they are in between the outside. Of course. Also they have economies of difficulties the for option as many of, of the arab neighbors the same. So all this is it the necessary action for the american to have more control on, on, on whats happening in your, your act is after putting the american, putting troops from us get assigned to your out became more important to america than it used to do in the past and especially now and also the new development and the duties that the claim, the ground for a new type of a political and Ministry Power also in the mid eighties. I think all this would help us to reach a n u. S. Military architecture. Uh, the Security Architecture and the whole reason that we come out also at power to International Part of that conversation was simply the fact that baghdad still relies on washington to get his dollars that it has to use to set its oil and the profits go back to america, a complicated system for sure. It dissolved so you dont use retarding in about half an hour. The hello and welcome to cross stock where all things are considered on peter level. The mass of 8 bill for ukraine passed by the us congress ensures the conflict will continue. Countless lives will continue the loss. But will this aid all through the events being played out on the ground . There is no reason to believe so. The prospect in ukraine im joined by my guest. Im the one go in north florida. He is publisher of gold goats in guns, blog, and newsletter in miami. We have andrea wong. She is a journalist and co host of the final count down on scrutiny international. And in prichard, we crossed through derrick evans. He is a candidate for congress, as well as vitamins political prisoner, alright, prospect roles and the fact that means you can jump anytime you want. And i always appreciated derek. Since youre running for the us congress, i would like your reaction to the flurry of ukrainian flags being waived in the house of representatives after that massive bill was passed. I i, i was wondering if it was just a i trying to fool me. Your thoughts . Well, was it was a, i just trying to fool, you know, no flag should be waived inside of the, the us house chambers and some peoples house. So its not the that it was the ukrainian flag necessarily. It said there was any 4 in flag that none of them should be waived inside the peoples house inside of the american. Okay, well, but the press book, it very differently that this was, i think there was a congressman said, ukraines border is our border. Derek, would you like to continue with that is, is that an american border as well . If it was the american border that they wouldnt care about securing it because they dont care about securing your own board or theyre leaving a wide open right now for people just invade our country. So i wish that they put that much effort into securing the american border as were currently being invaded. 1 by the millions right now, every single month on the southern border and as well as the northern border of our own country. So theyre a bunch of hypocrites. They say whatever they want in order to laundering pockets. And we know that theres Money Laundering going on from this money. Its going to ukraine, supposedly, and then coming back to these corrupt politicians inside america. Yeah. Well, theyre, theyre paid in bought. Thats for sure. You know, tom, immediately after the bill was past, the President Biden had a conversation with his counterparts in ukraine, zalinski and zelinski me in the that was the read out ukraine can win this war. What is he smoking or he does . He have another preference. Go ahead tom. Um, he is clear that they are running a they, theyre using ukraines of, alas, ukrainian, right . Theyre gonna fight this word of law she currently. And then once we get to that, that state, thats when they, those gonna come in its, its kind of similar to, you know, how they fought, bid of the german civil as nearly the last bread during the seasons, london and world war 2. If this is a very similar strategy and they just feel that the longer they, they draw this out and then get this point to get it to a point of desperation on the part of the frame. Thats when they can justify Everything Else of what we should expect. Maxed. If this is the, the same script is some kind of false flag or american composite operation against america in order to justify why we need to go in and fight the evil poodle or who is not hitler. And hes not stupid. And because hes not stupid, hes not fighting the war the way they want him to fight it and its in fremont. Were few, he refuses to take their proper cases. He continues to just wind out small victory after small victory after small victory ended on bass. Is mastery and car comp and getting ready to to, to, to moves there and possibly so me. And i find that fascinating, because ultimately hes just going to continue to grind out growing down nato, knowing full well that he can bite them on their terms until they finally commit. And then he can raise the pain threshold. Not just kind of politically at the attrition wise, but now really up the anti financially militarily and then clearly politically after that. So i think thats a strategy. Yeah, andrea, by it, and when the conflict started, i asked my dest repeatedly, whos got the time, and whos got the clocks . And always the answer is, russia has a both. And you, i have a bit of a different take on this. Here with the 61000000000. 00 and its all about the election cycle. Unfortunately, its not about lives because americans arent losing their lives in ukraine. So ukrainians are, uh yeah, you can, you can, you dont have to spare their lives there that you can. They dont mean anything to american voters, particularly not to the members of congress. But i think theres one way you can look at this is one big wet kiss, one last crunch before the elections. And then its like, well, we did what we did. I. Nato is a spend for us. Its not going to up the ante, at least militarily in ukraine. This is the last shot, angie, absolutely like this. The property ukraine. Congress has dwindled over the months. In fact, the House Freedom caucus didnt want to hear about it. It was really strange, one, the House Speaker of mike johnson did a 180 when he was just the congressmen. He voted no for any additional aid to ukraine. And also when he becomes House Speaker, hes got to push the money through. We got to get that and, and you know, why . Because we have to fund the military complex, right . We have to find them so that they can Fund Congress and they can pad their super packs because had their congressional funds, etc. And thats why all the democrats were waving their little, you know, blue and yellow flags in on the floor of congress. I couldnt believe that. I mean, like, where an American Flag on my lapel people look at me funny. Now that is the big difference that we are facing today. Now, no one can talk about it, not even large retail degree who was basically told just do it. Dont talk about it will fund your, you will fund you or whatever deal they made. But thats what happens, every one got a little bit of grease on their hands. They got a little bit of cash going into their campaigns. So theyre happy. Do we care about what happens in ukraine and russo war . Im not so sure that support is still there. Amongst the americans, well its where theyre certainly not their public opinion. Polls say very clearly, its not derrick and its, its very interesting. The New York Times says the democracy dies in the dark. Well, id say democracy dies in congress. Okay. I mean they, they, the Republican Base is adamant that they not do not want money. And an anti, it brings up the question that maybe well have an answer to what the hell happened to mike johnson. Go ahead. The. Oh, 1st of all, democracy, when you hear that term in america, you might as well just struck that out and say communism because thats what theyre really meeting at the end of the day where a Constitutional Republic and they keep using that word democracy when they really just made communism. Speaker johnson has really just been um, a complete uh sorry, a failure. He should have been vacated a long time ago. I wonder what kind of chaos that what it would have cause it really speaks volumes to the old saying that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Because to our point, he is done on 0. 18 as time as the congress meant to be coming. Speaker, i wonder who has been in his ear. I wonder what kind of promises hes been given. Its very unfortunate right now because while Congress Continues to grease their pockets to line their pockets with all this money thats going to the military industrial complex, its the, its the average people all across the world. Not just in america. Its the average people who are losing right now. We have our own people who are struggling here in america. Were sitting billions of dollars. Other countries, actually were borrowing money from china to send to other countries because were 34. 00 trillion dollars in debt. And then at the same time, you have every day, average citizens in ukraine and russia who are dying in a war right now that quite frankly, these people in congress dont care anything about. Yeah, and tom, it, it just came out today. But um, uh, the, the, the Russian Defense ministry is estimates that the cleanings of last a half a 1000000 men in this conflict that i assume that that is debts and, and severe injuries here. Um and so the plan is to get the next 500000. 00. I mean its really amazing because it, with the aim to damage rush or theyre destroying an entire demographic and ukraine. What will you crane have to rebuild after a hold of this . Go ahead. Tom wont, but well clearly, i mean, i dont want to go, you know, too far afield into the population of gender or anything along those lines. But you know, the papers hammering and all the british and bitter jeremy hot and all the for additional. Uh, uh, you know, highlights, megabytes also at the same thing isnt this great. You guys are spending, you americans are spending all this money and not one american live is being killed here. This is great. Your dispute is wasting, basically 5, because in like its, its disgusting. Just how much they hate everybody whos not them like the mask has come off so completely about this agenda and i find it just, you know, to pay for it. Right. But whats interesting looking at whats going on in congress, is this a type of go back to a couple of points of derek and as you made i, it looks to me like this. The situation for ukraine is even worse than we thought it was because its very possible because ive seen some reports of this that weve already stripped Patriot Missile systems from nato allies in places like greece and spain and other in other areas and sent them to ukraine and theyve already been blown up, and that the 6th that a lot of this money that was your mark through this bill was literally to put those replaced those systems in places where theyre already supposed to be. In fact, almost none of this money is going to go to ukraine at all, and its not going to change well what . But, but thats but thats and, and when johns and the dispute just stood like gross and the, this, the change the narrative a little bit for people to think about this one day. Cuz right now, mike johnson is the most hated man in america. The 2nd only 2nd, so im going to make sure on said he deserves that it was us. And so because so goal here cause but, but it remembered the dark night folks, you know, youre either die here or you live just long enough to see yourself become the villain. They make people in the villains by putting them in impossible situation. Oh, i have no, i dont, no, no, no, no, no, no, you know, im not good. I, i dont agree with that that he did this willingly what the payoff is. Thats what i want to know. Thats what thats really what about and a go ahead and jump in. Hes down to one house majority. He, theres only one of these. U. P is barely hanging on. He needs that brand the crowd support in order to get any bills pass otherwise than youre a do nothing, congress, which is what a line that theyre going to use over and over again. Is that better to be . Do Nothing Congress than to be a poodle of, of joe biden. Of all people. Yes, its less than idle is a rock and a hard place. And, you know, one thing to add about the 61000000000. 00 that goes or ukraine, which again goes to american manufacturers, is that the delivery of a lot of these military weapons is not going to be produced until 2029. You guys, this is not for the current, or is that you should look at it again, the nonsense that we hurts there immediately within a week. This is nonsense a lot through whatsoever. Derek is really one of the interesting things. I dont remember the exact number. Its between 8. 00 and 10000000000. 00. Theyll be going to pay for salaries and health care and Everything Else given the history of corruption and new credit and i witnessed it myself many, many times before. 2014 before 2022. Is that that money is just going to literally disappear into pockets and you know what, they, the, they, the, the people in power in washington and brussels. They know thats going to happen. Its a huge, broad, 40 seconds before we go to the break. Go ahead there the. Yeah. First i wanna make sure everyone is aware of that. Not to judge american citizens based on our, our government. Absolutely, absolutely. No, we do not feel this way of talking about if its not a popular thing here in our country or minds, the citizenry. So i want to make that very weird really. Oh, yeah. So, so uh, the thing is in West Virginia, specifically where i live in a lot of other parts of this country. We have our own issues right now. There isnt any of us crosses in southern West Virginia where people are literally dying, waiting on an ambulance. Its not going to show up because they dont have the funding to pay for that, but yet were sending money to to other countries. Specifically, some of the money that was was sent to ukraine was the pay the salaries, pensions, and insurance for 1st responders in ukraine. So are were, were literally paying for those services in your credit, right . Yeah, and i have to jump in here. We have to go to a hard break, and after that hard break, well continue our discussion loan. Youre going to stay with the the welcome back across. Ok, were all things are considered. Im peter roosevelts room and you were discussing ukraine. The is go back the time in north florida. You know, part of this was a part of the debate over the funding. While there was no debate whatsoever. Um, there was, it wasnt allowed, there wasnt of a public debate even within congress itself. And if there had been a debate, maybe we would have understood what the strategy is. What does winning mean . Because essentially what its gotten down to is i just dont lose right now. Right now. Dont lose. Thats the sentences with my bit tom, you know, i agree with that tier and i also agree that we got back to whats happened in Congress Like i just stood. I mean, its, youre, youre all right about how johnson has been a failure as a speaker and all the rest of it. But i want to remind everybody that why did the hold off this bill for 4 months. And then all of a sudden the last moment to a weighty, and he wasnt the only one on the d o p side of the ticket. There were at least i think, 27 other congressmen who that what their vote at the last moment. Now we could say its the middle on bullets hit their desktop, you know, whatever the threats were behind the scenes. I can, i can believe that and i can also believe that they were Something Else, possibly sincere. Nothing is ever as simple as it looks on paper, you know, when we say it in the papers in washington dc. So i, im not, im not absolving johnson here. Im saying is, keep an open mind that there may be multiple reasons why this had to happen now. And at the very least, well see what well see. Well, well, one sense of my tom seizure, Russian Foreign exchange assets. Were name about the 61000000000 the ukraine we, we, we know tom that, um, that he was given a, a c i a briefing. Right before, right. He flipped his, uh, his position here. Now i can just imagine the threat porn that they showed him. I mean, these are the same people, you know, they dont know who blow up the north stream. They can. These are the same people that arrested um 80 year old women with walkers, with within 10 miles of the d. C. On january 6th. I mean, they, they know a lot of things. Okay. And they, and, and they do a lot of colbert things here. And doing it seems to me that, you know, he just, they, hes just out of his way. They intimidated him in a breath. Inflation is what they did. Thats their currency. Yeah. And dont go to those winter retreats, either those are in so you retreats. Yeah. Like, dont, dont take a free ride. We know there, those hotel rooms are, but they find every which way to entrap, especially the freshman congress, members and, and it happens every time. And everywhere. Oliver washington, he should have known better. It was a rookie mistake. Whatever he saw in the, in the shift doesnt matter. Hes still sort of like, did ground and work for his congress. But he did. And now hes down to one member. And he has to go to democrats and the by the white house for support just to remain speaker of the house. Now, is that going to be pretty until november . No its, its just going to be a disaster. Then. Meanwhile, the map is not there for the g o p conference. Thats the sad part. And the best thing to do right now, maybe nothing because, you know, if you need democrats support or anything, well do you want that . Because that well, you know, and a nightmare very, but technically technically the g o. P does have the numbers, they do have the majority. The problem with the problem is with the g o. P is, theyre not like democrats, democrats, or like bolsheviks. They will always vote in unison. Thats the Republican Partys greatest weakness here, derek f. How does the trump play into all of this here . I mean, the photo op in mara, largo, you know, i back gum. Speaker johnsons positions, i mean this turned into a complete fiasco trunk full of all the politicians and im not, im not boosting for him here. But you know, he said i will solve this when im president. He had the best line because it leaves everybody questioning, but now he seemingly is backing johnson. I. It seems to me, hes given away a lot. You know, he has no leverage. Hes given away a lot for nothing. Go ahead, derek. Why didnt see where he necessarily supported johnson on the ukraine thing out of all he did in morrow largo he did. He gave him a pat on the back. I know that that was for Something Else that already had that scheduled leading up to that. But also right now the Biggest Issue is we have a unit party in this country. We dont have necessarily republicans and democrats of it. We have a unit party and theres a civil war thats literally taking place within the Republican Party. Right now you have the america 1st Freedom Caucus of trump republicans door attempting to take over the party from the global war. Mongering, neo cons and uh, the Freedom Caucus america 1st members are starting all across the country. This isnt just in congress. I mean this is that your local city and county g o p s as well. Uh, the american 1st patriots are winning that battle and youre starting to see that thats why a lot of these things are being revealed right now. And the National Level is every day americans are taking over the Republican Party from within. And so thats leading them to fall at, you know, to just kind of chasing them into the arms of the unit party. And thats what were seeing right now in the national stages. Its the unit party that are doing this. Thats why the republicans in the den, the, that the trip to traditional republicans, the mitt romney republicans and the democrats are walking in unison. They are one of the same to you know, that theyre the exact same people, the exact same party. Yeah, but, but tom, uh, i dont want to get into inside baseball too much, but that works for the left but doesnt work for the right. Okay. I mean, its a, its the most pathetic thing you can imagine is that a republican speaker, he has to real, really rely on the opposition to keep them in power. I mean, its absurd opposition. Its not all the nominally speaking party. Why i, i get your point there, i got you, i got your point. Ive use the term, are you in a party, a lot on this program, but tom, you get my point. You know, i absolutely get your point peter, and this is the, this thing is that it was the same problem that, that kind of mccarthy phase. And he was the same for him, but it was the same criticism he use the democrats to get stuff past and thats what caused the motion to vacate. So heres the thing with johnson. Since the moment that kevin mccarthy, speaker, a flight, the gap we have pressure placed on what she republicans to get rid of them into a road. The majority, to be honest with you. If you really parse that headlines, clearly here in the United States, from the moment it was decided that there were going to be a 4 seat majority in the house. They started working to get rid of that. So that 4 seat majority are forcing resignations and Everything Else. So but johnson down dantes point is perfect. That johnsons down to a one seat majority. He was tr, i think he was trying to run out the clock. And then they got to it and theyre like, no, no, we have to run out. You cant, we, you cant go to the, to the, to the break. When everybody goes home in august to go campaign, because conversion, the congress has done it all at the congress and we have to do is get through the next 3 or 4 months. And this one. And so the, the question now is, is peter said about the, the, the war and the, the time is on rush. Decide the war. Well, it was, it was on it, its, its not a, on their side to get everything pass through the us congress. They need to get done because they need to get passed between now and november because theyve already conceded effectively, the terms going to wit. And then the cause of that theyre trying to do their relief while i resign manual and trying to run the table. I. So that is what i say. I think its already been mentioned, the program that everybody got paid to the and everybodys happy about it and you i never would have thought wed missed george santos. Do we have some stuff from me right now . What is the weather there . Oh, good. Please. Trying to get onto my camp is that Columbia University to walk jewish students into their classrooms right now. Classes out at columbia a week before finals by the way, and as well. See this, this is summer of love. 2 point oh you have it for them in algebra and i never really got it without. I never really got it straight. Is he jewish or as a jew its its a jewish. Uh oh, how do you say anything you want him to be . Hes val, columbia students, if you take it, he was a varsity volleyball, apparently when he was in college as well. You think he, it was bar, so yeah, but the reason why i brought this up angie is because he says, the character of all of congress, in my opinion, these of fraud and congress is a fraud. Its a unit party fraud. Dre or derek, real about running for a fraudulent the uh, i guess conglomerate all the he just got caught. Okay. He just got caught. Derick is we go into the election cycle now . I mean, this betrayal, i mean, particularly be the g o p base. Okay. I mean, you can say a lot of things about donald trump and ive said good and bad on this program, but he didnt get us into a war and i credit him a lot for that bite and has more awards. Now that we can count isnt hasnt what the dean p o p u a b a is a betrayal of his candidacy. It was the 1st of all want to say that the everything that the left wing media in america said donald trump was going to do is what barton is currently doing. I mean, thats literally what the, what the, what hes doing rather getting us in all these wars of all this, this chaos and as far as your stands as i wanted to quickly say, i do, this is conservative of to is a conservative vote in congress and you would not have it, he would not have voted for these things. You can say, whatever else you want to evaluate with auto voted for these things in the air and derrick, you didnt break any laws while he was in congress that we know of. Okay, i think they, the voters should have decided his fate. Okay. Thats what democracy is. Yeah. Throw the bottom out if you dont like him. Okay. And again, theres many times ive absolutely right, was machinations to whittle down the majority to go and garrick, sorry to interrupt. No, no youre, youre absolutely correct. Uh, it should have been a decision by the people in been theory. Even those republicans who go to the house to him really voted to overturn an election. Yeah, just calling for the end of the day when you really think about everything that the Republican Party standing for right now in terms of election integrity, they turn around and voted to strip the voice away of the whatever. Half a 1700000 people who he represented in his congressional district. And its, its sad that happened congresss for, as roger, but thats what we need every day. Americans every day, people to step up and start running for office all across this country. Were yeah, we have too many politicians and politics. I think were getting to a point right now in america where everything americans are feeling the effects of this. Theyre frustrated and theyre throwing their hands up and theyre starting to get involved in politics. And i hope that we can uh get it can really get somebody simple like that. Everything and city council all the way up through congress. Thats what were gonna have to do if we want to make some changes in this country. Tom, the last question, one minute left is ukraine on the ballot this year, and i, i dont know, i have, i dont have a, ill be, i dont have the answer to my own question. Go ahead. No, it does funny. Oh i you, you asked me that question and im like, theres so much time between now and then theres so many things that can happen between now and then. I just, im like kind of, im, i dont know that we make it to november after break that well, you know, you know, but yeah, if we play far, we started our recording, we were talking about a different idea of were going to end this program with a completely other other idea. Ive heard many people that i actually bought a trust and believe it tended out there will be an election that i dont know, but that is in the air. Who no go ahead. 20 seconds time. Go ahead. Yeah, no i, i, if it is, it will be an election like we had in 2020. I mean i, i a fraudulent one, and then that will cause were being set up for this. I think the United States is being set up for a break up, and i think it has well enough and ill tell you as long as were not as well by an angel purpose, i will give you a prediction. If theyve taught trumpet is elected. He will be in peach before hes inaugurated. Thats oh and on that note here, oh, what i think my guess and north of florida, miami and prichard and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our d. C. A next time. Remember prospect rules the, the headlights are one of the international and im covering the horrors of war. Building 300 bodies are found that a must create a hospital and got that all through. Its really 4th is withdrew from that area. An independent review. Were saying theres no evidence