Transcripts For SFGTV Government Access Programming 20171119

For district 11. And then, the land use changes were to mirror the allowing the conversion excuse me the conversion of mcds into Cannabis Retailers. Those changes are reflected in the land use, in addition to the pipeline businesses in the pipeline. And with clarification that the grandfathered mcds are not subject to locational restrictions should there be any change, and cannabis may be smoked at retail locations. So those were the changes at the as of today, though, subject to change tomorrow at the board of supervisors. President dwight yeah. Okay. Well at least theyre talking about some of the right things. Commissioner zouzounis is that 600 feet mcd to mcd or retail to retail or does it also include the distributors to retail. Im sorry. The first 600 feet is from a school. Commissioner zouzounis and then, the second the clustering one. The clustering one would be 600 feet from Cannabis Retail from Cannabis Retail. Commissioner zouzounis okay. My question is if you have a cannabis distributor, can that be closer than 600 fe 600 feet from a Cannabis Retailer, or manufacturing to retailer . I dont know right now without seeing how that language was specifically written. Commissioner zouzounis i havent seen anything specifying that. I mean that because certain things, like a distributor, to be a distributor, you are likely having to be zoned in locations that are not close to mc districts. Commissioner ortizcartagena at this just i know this is not part of the first phases, but for restaurants, this is not going to make sense. Im just, you know, Small Businesses. I just want to keep reiterating and reiterating it, so, like, in north beach, all the commercial corridors, we have our amazing fine dining, where its mom and pop, good restaurants, so if i want to do cannabis infused cuisines, i cannot. I can only do a monopoly if i own the whole block. Thats not right. I think this is where the supervisors can provide some clarification, or would a restaurant be considered a Cannabis Retailer . Those questions have not been fully answered. I think, you know, theres definitely the need for continued refinement, but we do the we do need to get some rules and regs in place because at least for the current mcd operators, for them to be able to get into compliance locally, and then be able to apply with their license at the state and be a Cannabis Retailer january 1. Commissioner ortizcartagena im just throwing pebbles slowly but surely, slowly but surely. And i think its pebble that the commission can continue to address and bring up. Commissioner zouzounis and theres no confirming definition for a nonconforming cannabis operate jog yet . A nonconforming . Yes. Its in the preexisting. Its under section 1605k on page 21. Commissioner riley the thousand feet or 600 feet from school or child care facility, what is the latest . I know some communities feel very strongly about the thousand feet. Right. So as i understand, this happened not too long before our meeting started, the final land use recommendations was that what moved forward was the 600 feet. Again, that still could be debated more at the board of supervisors, but the 600 feet, in terms of the radius from schools, i dont know, and the daycare could have been amended in committee today, but i would because of my meeting schedules and and ma man maneka would have been the one to see it, but okay. Well wait. Commissioner zouzounis and my reference to that nonconforming cannabis definition if that was going to include it says engaging commercial cannabis activities related to medical cannabis activitied in the city. So if you were a distributor, like, that you were an accessory distributor or you provided the equipment and the raw material that, you know, created these things, that was besides the cannabis, is that considered a preexisting so, like, if you are selling the instruments that you make the pens to to i that will need to be clarified, but my understanding, youre not really selling a product that has cannabis in it. President dwight i suspect if you do not have cannabis in your product, youre not subject to any of these regulations, so you can be selling equipment, you can be selling accessories, you can be selling paraphernalia, and theres a whole industry in that alone. I dont sorry. For example. If i start making stash bags, i am not now subjected to the requirements of the cannabis industry, im pretty sure thats i mean, thats how i would interpret it because you do not have any of the cannabis product, so if youre making pipes or bongs or what have you. All right. So any other questions . All right. So thats it. I do the last thing i do want to say is i want to extend my appreciation to director elliott, to aaron starr, dan sider, and the City Attorneys office, and of course all the supervisors offices skm thean aides, because things have been changing and theyve been doing a terrific job keeping up, still trying to keep track and understand all the nuances, which is very complex when youre talking about four to five significant different types of industries that, you know, make one big industry, so i just want to give them a shout out for the great work that theyre doing. Commissioner ortizcartagena and our office, too. Yeah, and our office. Commissioner ortizcartagena theyve been killing it. And your recommendation is very clear, so the supervisors took those very seriously. President dwight good. So weve kind of got were those your director was that your directors report . No, that was not the directors report. That was the final wrap up of just giving you an update on items. President dwight okay. Ill call for Public Comment on that. Do we have any members of the public that would like to comment on the directors wrap up on items 5 and 6 . Seeing non, Public Comment is closed. That means we can move onto item number 6. Was there a motion . President dwight okay. Commissioner toursarkissian i would like to regarding the proposed amendments as to requiring 50 local hiring, i would like to make a motion that that be stricken from the proposed legislation. President dwight yeah, im fine with that. Anybody want to second that motion . May i just make one recommendation, in case the number got modified a little bit down in committee . President dwight i dont think there should be any local hiring requirement . Commissioner toursarkissian i believe that the local hiring requirement, first of all, is in frankly, in this environment is not realistic, and second, would hinder the growth of the industry, would cause a major problem in hiring. Theres no way that the business could be held to that standard in the city and county of San Francisco. President dwight and furthermore, if you had to revalidate that every year, if you had employees that said screw this, im not commuting like this anymore, and next year, youre noncompliant, you cannot manage your workforce anymore. Thats absurd. And if they move out of the city. If you do think if this local hire is included, dow think it has the potential of affect being any future noncannabis related Small Businesses . President dwight well, i think it should be objected to the subject of no other business have been imposed these kind of penalties. Commissioner toursarkissian i think its really causing major damage to the growth of these businesses, and frankly, if they cant hire in San Francisco, then they cannot grow, they cannot open their doors. 50 is a huge number. And do you think that they might pull away employees from other noncannabis related president dwight well, it just creates a competition, an unnatural local competition of hiring. People should want and be allowed to work in the industry that theyre interested in. We shouldnt create an artificial market for those people, because what you will do is in fact create a bounty on those local hires, and you will artificially inflate their incomes, and you may argue that thats a good thing for those people, but youre going to get people migrating to an industry that they may or may not not want to be because theyre seduced by a piece of legislation that is solely focused on one industry and i think that represents just the the fundamental flaw in the legislation. Commissioner ortizcartagena president dwight, you said earlier, this is not a Public Public works kind of project, this is provide sector industry, and this is capitalism, you know. President dwight this is outside the bounds of our le s legislative bodies to be mandating this. Commissioner ortizcartagena i think theres a misconception. Were business people. Thats why were in this commission. I think theres a misconception that theres going to be a bunch of billionaires and stuff like that. President dwight its going to be a competitive business, just like any other. Commissioner ortizcartagena correct, and its an agriculture business. Commissioner riley director, if i remember correctly, there was such a requirement for the construction business, is it . And from what i understand, there has been challenges with that, but understand from the construction industry, a project goes up president dwight thats a contract by contract basis. That doesnt require that the employees of the contracting company, because they employ they employ temporary workers on a project by project basis, so theyre required on a project basis. Nobody says that Construction Company ayz in San Francisco has to have this composition of employees, because these are purchasing agents, those are all the fulltime employees that you keep in place. Commissioner riley and again, they didnt come here and explain to us that they can meet that requirement because they dont always find president dwight yeah, that thats an unnatural requirement for contracts. Right, so even in an industry where you have a pool of workers, and lets just say you cant meet or get close, theyre working, and when that projects done, theyre available for another project. In an ongoing industry, it just doesnt work that way. Commissioner riley yeah, agree. President dwight so the answer to your question is yes, i think it will have an adverse effect on all businesses in San Francisco because it creates an unnatural market, and around one specific industry which is in its infancy, and so as you say, we dont know how this is going to play out, and to hamstring this industry at this point in its development, thats just not the place of our legislators. Commissioner zouzounis the supervisor has good intent, but it doesnt make sense. Commissioner riley how about if we have a motion . President dwight well, i think the motion should be to reject any local hiring requirement, yeah. Supervisor fewer i think the president dwight regardless of the number. Commissioner toursarkissian i think the requirement for 50 or any San Francisco workforce in the proposition should be stricken. President dwight yeah. Commissioner toursarkissian should be stricken. There ought not be any requirement that the workforce be all San Francisco residents, and all definitions relating there to should be stricken from the proposed, you know, legislation as amended in committee. So that includes both just the standard local hire for all cannabis businesses and under the equity incubator, is that what youre proposing . Commissioner toursarkissian i mean, the equity incubator, it does not talk about the understanding of what was presented to us, at any 15 percent percent, 20 percent percent, 25 percentage. It is under on page 16, it does say president dwight it should be stricken from all legislation. Commissioner toursarkissian let me make my motion. I would say that any reference to the workforce be hired in San Francisco be stricken from the proposed legislation. Commissioner ortizcartagena and just also to reference construction, going back to construction first, so the equity component in construction is the lbe or the acde component, and they dont have those requirements. I know this well, and even the prime on a on a public or on a private project, theres not requirements, 50 . Commissioner toursarkissian it doesnt serve anybody. President dwight i think we can go on record that we are in agreement that we are absolutely opposed. Commissioner ortizcartagena but i think its essential for them to understand, we need to give them a detail, because were business people. We make payroll. A lot of the people that were explaining this to, theyve never had to make a payroll. President dwight well, more importantly, theyve never had to hire anybody, and so before you even get to the payroll, we would be unable to construct a payroll. We wouldnt have anybody on it. It would be impossible to comply, and it would be impossible to continue to maintain that because your workforce is people are free to work where they want to work, and theyre going to leave and you know, imagine them holding you hostage. You know what . Im thinking of quitting, and youre not going to meet your local hire requirement if i quit. I think its time for me to get a raise. That is crazy. That is absolutely crazy. Commissioner toursarkissian i dont dare going over the definition, but as to what it means to be a resident of San Francisco and so forth, so its so restrictive, that would its not good for the city, its not good for the workforce, its not good for the businesses. President dwight shouldnt matter. Commissioner toursarkissian for businesses and general, and specifically for the very business that were talking about. President dwight that were trying to enable. Commissioner toursarkissian i renew my motion that any reference to local hiring requirement be stricken from the proposed commissioner ortizcartagena ill second that, and now cause we explained why. We explained why in great detail. President dwight yeah. Or the oer. Commissioner ortizcartagena i second the motion. President dwight do we have any mobile home berz of the public that would like to comment on this outrageous proposal . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Clerk okay. Roll call. [ roll call. ] motion passes, 5 to zero. Clerk item , directors report, update on the Small Business and the Small Business business center, policies and legislative matters, announcements from the mayor and announcements regarding Small Business activities. Discussion item. So commissioners, thank you. I will be very quick. Just want our commission to our policy analysts has been very sick for a week, so just want to make sure wish her a speedy recovery. So last week, the Small Business round table had its regular meeting with the mayor, and items on the discussion were around housing for Small Business workforce, discussion around beat cops, and having a you know, continuing to sustain beat cops. Theres the mayor and chief scott have made it and the board of supervisors made it a priority to increase the number of beat cops in neighborhood commercial districts. Also, an update on the meetings that members of that group have been having with the department of homelessness, sfpd, and the department of Public Health and dpw, so those four organizations are meeting on on pretty much on a daily basis to deal with a unified sort of command response to homelessness, so it was a pretty good discussion, and the mayor talked about a few of the things he wanted to accomplish through the end of his term which is, of course, bringing on more Affordable Housing and, of course, continue to work on the homeless issue that hes been working on. We have signed a contract with for the under legacy business, we have signed the contract for the osaki creative group. We have also received a letter from of determination from our City Attorney that we no longer need to require our businesses that are going to be receiving a grant or the landlords to be 12b compliant. Thisll make the process for getting businesses registered as a city which no, were no longer saying is a vendor, but is a supplier, which will help speed it up, which will make it much easier for us to get the grant money out the door. And rick and rhea are getting close to finalizing all of the grant applications, the 73 grant applications that we have received. This week, on friday, im not sure if you are aware, but theyve already started demolition of the old goodwill site as mission and south vanness intersection and 11th, so this is now called 1550 mission street, which is going to have housing, some down stairs retail, but then, there will be dpw, dbi planning, and a few other smaller departments are moving over to 1550. The second floor will be a permit center that will have dbi, all of dbi, the mechanical, all of that broken out. Planning, dph, all the regulatory agencies that a Business Needs to go through or anybody needs to go through, including the Police Departments permitting center will be over there, which is great. People dont have to go over there to 3rd street to dale with their permits. Therell be hearing rooms, rooms areas for people to be working on things while theyre waiting, so our office, it we have a small section there, so katey sharping, who is doing the open in sf who is dealing with the food related businesses will be there, next to the Entertainment Commission, so really excited, and were starting the official process of meeting to sort of define that particular space, and the projected opening date is 2020. And those, i think, are the just key things i want to highlight of activities that are taking place right now. President dwight okay. Commissioners, any questions . Do we have any members of the public that would like to comment on the directors report . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Next item, please. Clerk item 8, allows president , Vice President and commissioners to report on recently Small Business activities and make announcements that are of interest to the Cannabis Retail<\/a>ers. Those changes are reflected in the land use, in addition to the pipeline businesses in the pipeline. And with clarification that the grandfathered mcds are not subject to locational restrictions should there be any change, and cannabis may be smoked at retail locations. So those were the changes at the as of today, though, subject to change tomorrow at the board of supervisors. President dwight yeah. Okay. Well at least theyre talking about some of the right things. Commissioner zouzounis is that 600 feet mcd to mcd or retail to retail or does it also include the distributors to retail. Im sorry. The first 600 feet is from a school. Commissioner zouzounis and then, the second the clustering one. The clustering one would be 600 feet from Cannabis Retail<\/a> from Cannabis Retail<\/a>. Commissioner zouzounis okay. My question is if you have a cannabis distributor, can that be closer than 600 fe 600 feet from a Cannabis Retail<\/a>er, or manufacturing to retailer . I dont know right now without seeing how that language was specifically written. Commissioner zouzounis i havent seen anything specifying that. I mean that because certain things, like a distributor, to be a distributor, you are likely having to be zoned in locations that are not close to mc districts. Commissioner ortizcartagena at this just i know this is not part of the first phases, but for restaurants, this is not going to make sense. Im just, you know, Small Businesses<\/a>. I just want to keep reiterating and reiterating it, so, like, in north beach, all the commercial corridors, we have our amazing fine dining, where its mom and pop, good restaurants, so if i want to do cannabis infused cuisines, i cannot. I can only do a monopoly if i own the whole block. Thats not right. I think this is where the supervisors can provide some clarification, or would a restaurant be considered a Cannabis Retail<\/a>er . Those questions have not been fully answered. I think, you know, theres definitely the need for continued refinement, but we do the we do need to get some rules and regs in place because at least for the current mcd operators, for them to be able to get into compliance locally, and then be able to apply with their license at the state and be a Cannabis Retail<\/a>er january 1. Commissioner ortizcartagena im just throwing pebbles slowly but surely, slowly but surely. And i think its pebble that the commission can continue to address and bring up. Commissioner zouzounis and theres no confirming definition for a nonconforming cannabis operate jog yet . A nonconforming . Yes. Its in the preexisting. Its under section 1605k on page 21. Commissioner riley the thousand feet or 600 feet from school or child care facility, what is the latest . I know some communities feel very strongly about the thousand feet. Right. So as i understand, this happened not too long before our meeting started, the final land use recommendations was that what moved forward was the 600 feet. Again, that still could be debated more at the board of supervisors, but the 600 feet, in terms of the radius from schools, i dont know, and the daycare could have been amended in committee today, but i would because of my meeting schedules and and ma man maneka would have been the one to see it, but okay. Well wait. Commissioner zouzounis and my reference to that nonconforming cannabis definition if that was going to include it says engaging commercial cannabis activities related to medical cannabis activitied in the city. So if you were a distributor, like, that you were an accessory distributor or you provided the equipment and the raw material that, you know, created these things, that was besides the cannabis, is that considered a preexisting so, like, if you are selling the instruments that you make the pens to to i that will need to be clarified, but my understanding, youre not really selling a product that has cannabis in it. President dwight i suspect if you do not have cannabis in your product, youre not subject to any of these regulations, so you can be selling equipment, you can be selling accessories, you can be selling paraphernalia, and theres a whole industry in that alone. I dont sorry. For example. If i start making stash bags, i am not now subjected to the requirements of the cannabis industry, im pretty sure thats i mean, thats how i would interpret it because you do not have any of the cannabis product, so if youre making pipes or bongs or what have you. All right. So any other questions . All right. So thats it. I do the last thing i do want to say is i want to extend my appreciation to director elliott, to aaron starr, dan sider, and the City Attorney<\/a>s office, and of course all the supervisors offices skm thean aides, because things have been changing and theyve been doing a terrific job keeping up, still trying to keep track and understand all the nuances, which is very complex when youre talking about four to five significant different types of industries that, you know, make one big industry, so i just want to give them a shout out for the great work that theyre doing. Commissioner ortizcartagena and our office, too. Yeah, and our office. Commissioner ortizcartagena theyve been killing it. And your recommendation is very clear, so the supervisors took those very seriously. President dwight good. So weve kind of got were those your director was that your directors report . No, that was not the directors report. That was the final wrap up of just giving you an update on items. President dwight okay. Ill call for Public Comment<\/a> on that. Do we have any members of the public that would like to comment on the directors wrap up on items 5 and 6 . Seeing non, Public Comment<\/a> is closed. That means we can move onto item number 6. Was there a motion . President dwight okay. Commissioner toursarkissian i would like to regarding the proposed amendments as to requiring 50 local hiring, i would like to make a motion that that be stricken from the proposed legislation. President dwight yeah, im fine with that. Anybody want to second that motion . May i just make one recommendation, in case the number got modified a little bit down in committee . President dwight i dont think there should be any local hiring requirement . Commissioner toursarkissian i believe that the local hiring requirement, first of all, is in frankly, in this environment is not realistic, and second, would hinder the growth of the industry, would cause a major problem in hiring. Theres no way that the business could be held to that standard in the city and county of San Francisco<\/a>. President dwight and furthermore, if you had to revalidate that every year, if you had employees that said screw this, im not commuting like this anymore, and next year, youre noncompliant, you cannot manage your workforce anymore. Thats absurd. And if they move out of the city. If you do think if this local hire is included, dow think it has the potential of affect being any future noncannabis related Small Businesses<\/a> . President dwight well, i think it should be objected to the subject of no other business have been imposed these kind of penalties. Commissioner toursarkissian i think its really causing major damage to the growth of these businesses, and frankly, if they cant hire in San Francisco<\/a>, then they cannot grow, they cannot open their doors. 50 is a huge number. And do you think that they might pull away employees from other noncannabis related president dwight well, it just creates a competition, an unnatural local competition of hiring. People should want and be allowed to work in the industry that theyre interested in. We shouldnt create an artificial market for those people, because what you will do is in fact create a bounty on those local hires, and you will artificially inflate their incomes, and you may argue that thats a good thing for those people, but youre going to get people migrating to an industry that they may or may not not want to be because theyre seduced by a piece of legislation that is solely focused on one industry and i think that represents just the the fundamental flaw in the legislation. Commissioner ortizcartagena president dwight, you said earlier, this is not a Public Public<\/a> works kind of project, this is provide sector industry, and this is capitalism, you know. President dwight this is outside the bounds of our le s legislative bodies to be mandating this. Commissioner ortizcartagena i think theres a misconception. Were business people. Thats why were in this commission. I think theres a misconception that theres going to be a bunch of billionaires and stuff like that. President dwight its going to be a competitive business, just like any other. Commissioner ortizcartagena correct, and its an agriculture business. Commissioner riley director, if i remember correctly, there was such a requirement for the construction business, is it . And from what i understand, there has been challenges with that, but understand from the construction industry, a project goes up president dwight thats a contract by contract basis. That doesnt require that the employees of the contracting company, because they employ they employ temporary workers on a project by project basis, so theyre required on a project basis. Nobody says that Construction Company<\/a> ayz in San Francisco<\/a> has to have this composition of employees, because these are purchasing agents, those are all the fulltime employees that you keep in place. Commissioner riley and again, they didnt come here and explain to us that they can meet that requirement because they dont always find president dwight yeah, that thats an unnatural requirement for contracts. Right, so even in an industry where you have a pool of workers, and lets just say you cant meet or get close, theyre working, and when that projects done, theyre available for another project. In an ongoing industry, it just doesnt work that way. Commissioner riley yeah, agree. President dwight so the answer to your question is yes, i think it will have an adverse effect on all businesses in San Francisco<\/a> because it creates an unnatural market, and around one specific industry which is in its infancy, and so as you say, we dont know how this is going to play out, and to hamstring this industry at this point in its development, thats just not the place of our legislators. Commissioner zouzounis the supervisor has good intent, but it doesnt make sense. Commissioner riley how about if we have a motion . President dwight well, i think the motion should be to reject any local hiring requirement, yeah. Supervisor fewer i think the president dwight regardless of the number. Commissioner toursarkissian i think the requirement for 50 or any San Francisco<\/a> workforce in the proposition should be stricken. President dwight yeah. Commissioner toursarkissian should be stricken. There ought not be any requirement that the workforce be all San Francisco<\/a> residents, and all definitions relating there to should be stricken from the proposed, you know, legislation as amended in committee. So that includes both just the standard local hire for all cannabis businesses and under the equity incubator, is that what youre proposing . Commissioner toursarkissian i mean, the equity incubator, it does not talk about the understanding of what was presented to us, at any 15 percent percent, 20 percent percent, 25 percentage. It is under on page 16, it does say president dwight it should be stricken from all legislation. Commissioner toursarkissian let me make my motion. I would say that any reference to the workforce be hired in San Francisco<\/a> be stricken from the proposed legislation. Commissioner ortizcartagena and just also to reference construction, going back to construction first, so the equity component in construction is the lbe or the acde component, and they dont have those requirements. I know this well, and even the prime on a on a public or on a private project, theres not requirements, 50 . Commissioner toursarkissian it doesnt serve anybody. President dwight i think we can go on record that we are in agreement that we are absolutely opposed. Commissioner ortizcartagena but i think its essential for them to understand, we need to give them a detail, because were business people. We make payroll. A lot of the people that were explaining this to, theyve never had to make a payroll. President dwight well, more importantly, theyve never had to hire anybody, and so before you even get to the payroll, we would be unable to construct a payroll. We wouldnt have anybody on it. It would be impossible to comply, and it would be impossible to continue to maintain that because your workforce is people are free to work where they want to work, and theyre going to leave and you know, imagine them holding you hostage. You know what . Im thinking of quitting, and youre not going to meet your local hire requirement if i quit. I think its time for me to get a raise. That is crazy. That is absolutely crazy. Commissioner toursarkissian i dont dare going over the definition, but as to what it means to be a resident of San Francisco<\/a> and so forth, so its so restrictive, that would its not good for the city, its not good for the workforce, its not good for the businesses. President dwight shouldnt matter. Commissioner toursarkissian for businesses and general, and specifically for the very business that were talking about. President dwight that were trying to enable. Commissioner toursarkissian i renew my motion that any reference to local hiring requirement be stricken from the proposed commissioner ortizcartagena ill second that, and now cause we explained why. We explained why in great detail. President dwight yeah. Or the oer. Commissioner ortizcartagena i second the motion. President dwight do we have any mobile home berz of the public that would like to comment on this outrageous proposal . Seeing none, Public Comment<\/a> is closed. Clerk okay. Roll call. [ roll call. ] motion passes, 5 to zero. Clerk item , directors report, update on the Small Business<\/a> and the Small Business<\/a> business center, policies and legislative matters, announcements from the mayor and announcements regarding Small Business<\/a> activities. Discussion item. So commissioners, thank you. I will be very quick. Just want our commission to our policy analysts has been very sick for a week, so just want to make sure wish her a speedy recovery. So last week, the Small Business<\/a> round table had its regular meeting with the mayor, and items on the discussion were around housing for Small Business<\/a> workforce, discussion around beat cops, and having a you know, continuing to sustain beat cops. Theres the mayor and chief scott have made it and the board of supervisors made it a priority to increase the number of beat cops in neighborhood commercial districts. Also, an update on the meetings that members of that group have been having with the department of homelessness, sfpd, and the department of Public Health<\/a> and dpw, so those four organizations are meeting on on pretty much on a daily basis to deal with a unified sort of command response to homelessness, so it was a pretty good discussion, and the mayor talked about a few of the things he wanted to accomplish through the end of his term which is, of course, bringing on more Affordable Housing<\/a> and, of course, continue to work on the homeless issue that hes been working on. We have signed a contract with for the under legacy business, we have signed the contract for the osaki creative group. We have also received a letter from of determination from our City Attorney<\/a> that we no longer need to require our businesses that are going to be receiving a grant or the landlords to be 12b compliant. Thisll make the process for getting businesses registered as a city which no, were no longer saying is a vendor, but is a supplier, which will help speed it up, which will make it much easier for us to get the grant money out the door. And rick and rhea are getting close to finalizing all of the grant applications, the 73 grant applications that we have received. This week, on friday, im not sure if you are aware, but theyve already started demolition of the old goodwill site as mission and south vanness intersection and 11th, so this is now called 1550 mission street, which is going to have housing, some down stairs retail, but then, there will be dpw, dbi planning, and a few other smaller departments are moving over to 1550. The second floor will be a permit center that will have dbi, all of dbi, the mechanical, all of that broken out. Planning, dph, all the regulatory agencies that a Business Needs<\/a> to go through or anybody needs to go through, including the Police Departments<\/a> permitting center will be over there, which is great. People dont have to go over there to 3rd street to dale with their permits. Therell be hearing rooms, rooms areas for people to be working on things while theyre waiting, so our office, it we have a small section there, so katey sharping, who is doing the open in sf who is dealing with the food related businesses will be there, next to the Entertainment Commission<\/a>, so really excited, and were starting the official process of meeting to sort of define that particular space, and the projected opening date is 2020. And those, i think, are the just key things i want to highlight of activities that are taking place right now. President dwight okay. Commissioners, any questions . Do we have any members of the public that would like to comment on the directors report . Seeing none, Public Comment<\/a> is closed. Next item, please. Clerk item 8, allows president , Vice President<\/a> and commissioners to report on recently Small Business<\/a> activities and make announcements that are of interest to the Small Business<\/a> committee. I attended the meeting last week with the mayor. I was there. I dont have anything else to put forward myself. Any other commissioner reports . Im engaged. I gotten gaug en paris a few weeks ago. Shout out to my fiance, juliette, if shes watching sfgovtv. Sometimes she does. Commissioner ortizcartagena i attended opportunity funded ga gala, and want to give a shout out to odwd, and the Mission District<\/a> corridor. Now that its not such a popular topic, cause its not negative, theyve been still working on this day, almost every week, in trying to help Small Businesses<\/a> in that corridor survive, so i just want to give a shout out. President dwight great. Not to out myself as using myeelectric tronn my Electronic Device<\/a> in a commission meeting, but i just got a text from juliette. She is watching. All right. Do we have any other commissioners wishing to comment on commissioner reports . All right. Seeing none, commissioner reports is closed. Future items. Do we have any new business items to propose . Commissioner zouzounis id like to hear an update on the retrofit. President dwight office story retrofit . Okay. Any others . Commissioner zouzounis i know the quark of where that city funding is coming from or how its distributed. President dwight well get an update. Any other new business . Okay. Any members of the public like to comment on new business . Seeing none, new business is closed. President dwight so before we close out the meeting, id like to give a little statement here in memoriam of someone who was not here too long ago, accepting a legacy business award, and that is steven parr who passed recently. He was a film activist who was the founder and director of odd ball films. He had been a collector of rare and unusual historical films since the early 1980s and often screened visuals and curated films for live events around the city. In 19 4 his innovation for films caught the attention of director ridley scott. Having secured his first client, and a well known one at that, his business grew into a fulltime occupation that required a commercial space, he located his space at 275 cap street in the Mission District<\/a> and began to build his film archive, officially registering odd ball films as a business in 1984. It gradually accumulated thousands of 16 millimeter, 35 millimeter and small gauge films. The collection is rumored to contain 35,000 cans of film. It has provided rare and critical footage available from no other sources. Steven parrs contribution is a legacy worthy of recognition. He drew from the considerable strengths and talents of the community and gave back to innovators, independent thinkers, directors, producers and documentaryans in numerous ways. We close the meeting today in his honor. Sfgovtv please show the Office Business<\/a> line. It is our kust on om to begin and end each meeting with a reminder that the Small Business<\/a> commission is the only place to start the office of Small Business<\/a> should be your first stop when you have a question about what to do next. You can find us online or in person here at city hall. Best of all, all of our services are free of charge. It is the official forum to voice your concerns about policies that affect the Economic Vitality<\/a> of Small Businesses<\/a> in San Francisco<\/a>. If you need assistance with Small Business<\/a> matters, start here at the office of Small Business<\/a> and the Small Business<\/a> commission. Thank you. All right. Clerk item 10, adjournment action item. I move. I second. Clerk theres a motion by commissioner ortizcartagena, seconded by riley. All in favor . All opposed . Meeting adjourned at 8 05 p. M. Good morning everyone. This meeting will come to order. Welcome to the november 13th special meeting. Im ahsha safai to my right is sandra lee fewer and to my right, norman yee. Mr. Clerk, do you have initial announcements before we begin . Clerk please silence cell phones and Electronic Device<\/a>s. All documents should be submitted to the clerk. Items will be appear on the november 28th supervisors board agenda unless otherwise stated. Before we begin, i want to give focus to the conversation clerk may i read the first item. Item one, administrative business tax regulation, health and police code to regulate commercial activities related to cultivated testing sale and delivery of medical and adult use cannibis. I. For those here last week, we continued this item. This is not the beginning as this is not the end of the conversation moving this legislation forward but theres still going to be both in the land use and on the rules side, theres going to be continuing conversation over the next year. I think the goal that were trying to achieve is to move the process forward to be prepared by january 1st to begin to have adult use along with medical use cannibis in San Francisco<\/a>. To focus the conversation, i know supervisor jeff sheehy has joined us with amendments. We havent spent a lot of time talking about delivery in this committee and in general as the conversation has moved forward. I know we have 30 cannibis permits that are brick and mortar and about 16 that are delivery only. We havent spent a lot of time talking about delivery and the delivery process. I know there are those in the audience who have experience with delivery. Theres been the conversation about not predictable delivery but essentially internet based and working with brick and mortars. I want to have conversation about that. Theres been concerns and ideas brought forward and then i want to talk about the idea of moving from the process of being mcd and having a temporary permit to operate as in adult use. Lets start there. One of the things i want to make sure and supervisor sheehy has amendments but i want to start with this part of the conversation. Weve had some conversations about this. Essentially the idea is that existing operators have a Good Neighbor<\/a> policy. They have an existing management and security plan and the way it has worked in the past, management security plan has been submitted to the department of Public Health<\/a> and reviewed by the area Police Captain<\/a> and those plans were approved. I want to ensure that in this process to transition to adult use, the management and security plan along with the Good Neighbor<\/a> policy will have to be resubmitted and reviewed by your office and approved by your office and reviewed by the Police Captain<\/a> and our offices, meaning the supervisors can weigh in and review in the process and consultation with you. Does it say that . To your question, currently the legislation page 88 says it has to under article 17 of the police code, this is amendment into article 33. So this would be for the department of Public Health<\/a> to enforce until that retailer holds an article 16 permit. So thats not currently reflected in the legislation supervisor. Would that be an amendment. John gibbner. I think this is amendment youre suggesting to the to article 16 if im not mistaken. That would not be subsensitive, you could make the amendment tomorrow and pass it on First Reading<\/a> tomorrow. Well do that. What were trying to do deputy City Attorney<\/a> pearson essentially is there currently is a process they have to submit all existing mcds have to submit a management and security plan and Good Neighbor<\/a> policy. Thats something theyre familiar with. We want the plan to be resubmitted as part of the temporary permitting process so that the Police Captain<\/a> would have the opportunity to review that, along with the department of Public Health<\/a> as well . Or just the Police Captain<\/a> and your office. Under the existing language on page 88 it would be the department of Public Health<\/a> enforcement. I would defer to the City Attorney<\/a>s if you could include my office. I want the office of cannibis to have that review. Were trying to shift a lot of the responsibility to the office, right . We want them to be the ones to review the final management and security plan. My question is, are you recommending a process that is similar to the permitting of alcohol licences where it comes to a committee, it goes through, we have a formal report on it. Not necessarily. There is review. Not in terms of having it go to the Public Service<\/a> and neighborhood safety. This is more of on the administrative side, were having it be the process where the office of cannibis and essentially what im reiterating, the process currently happens, the Police Captain<\/a> in the past has given recommendations or reviewed the management security plan, so thats not anything new. And the Good Neighbor<\/a> policy is something that theyre familiar with, thats not new. What would be new is that the office of cannibis, because we created this new office will have the authority to approve that plan in consultation with our offices along with input from the Police Captain<\/a>. I think thats important because there have been really good actors out there currently and theres ones that have some room to grow. So we want this to be based on a merit system on terms of how theyre operating and give them something to look forward to in terms of improving overall. So we have this plan in place and still there are some bad actors who have fallen through the cracks. It seems you would have to address enforcement. Thats why the final approval would be with this office and so in consultation with the Police Department<\/a> along with the members of the board. And i think that that im getting looks from you guys. Excuse me so youre speaking about new permits that might be permitted. But renewal of permits then would also be evaluated whether or not they have adhered to the Management Plan<\/a> and whether or not they have abided by the Management Plan<\/a> and so for review process of these places, which i think in your district quite frankly, they fell through the loop hole. How does you close that loophole. Thats a good question. The other thing, i know that even the temporary permits, theres the ability to appeal temporary permit from the neighbors and discretionary review. Oh, thats the final permit. Okay. Some supervisors have put in the additional layer of review or proposed that. Deputy City Attorney<\/a> pearson. Maybe i can say a couple of words about the amendment last week with respect to medical dispensaries and ability to sell adult use on january 1st. The amendment last week would amend article 33 of the health code that currently regulates these businesses and it amends it to allow them to start selling medical use cannibis under the article. They would not apply for temporary permit. It would be immediate expansion of the existing permit. We can amend the amendment to include some of the additional language you have talked about today, to say that that expansion can happen on the condition that they also submit for review by the Police Department<\/a> and office of cannibis a Good Neighbor<\/a> policy and management and security plan. And a security plan. We could do that, it would be helpful to know if you want them to be able to operate while the plans are being reviewed or they need to submit them and have them reviewed while they operate. I think for the good operators it will be easy. I think for the ones with work to do, i think there will be a review period. No, i dont think its the will of the body to handout permits without some level of review. Okay. I think that would slow down the process quite frankly for dispensaries to switch to adult use. We are nearing december. Right. Lets hear what miss elliot has to say. Were talking about 30 dispensaries and i know supervisor sheehy had ideas for permit. Do you think it would slow things down tremendously . Or for good operators it would be pretty pro forma. These are plans they have in place, im not trying to create a log jam. I have heard from other supervisors they want a level of review and not temporary permits just handed out without something being submitted. I think then yes miss elliot you could give us a timeline since the supervisor is recommending it would go through your office for approval and what your timeline is and what it might look like, if there would be a log jam or delay the permitting. I think its the ball is sort of in your court and also Public Health<\/a>. Were asking them to review it, too. And the Police Department<\/a>. Outside of reviewing the security plans is the registration process of the non retail delivery side to get the operations inspected and getting ready for temporary permits as well. I cant say because i have never reviewed that security plan. I havent reviewed a Good Neighbor<\/a>hood policy in coordination with operators and supervisors, however we have published quite a bit in the last two months, so lets just keep plowing forward. I know your name was on the do you want to add something supervisor yee . Im trying to clarify in my head what were talking about. I never had these discussions. So basically, are you offering amendments talking as if its in here and were arguing about it. But what are we really talking about. Are you amending something . Or you want to add language to something . So at the last no, im talking about adding it. At the last meeting we had a conversation regarding this process of transition from temporary to i mean from mcd to adult use, there were clarifying questions asked on the record last week. Versus this being an administrative process or writing it into the legislation, thats where we are right now. Theres a reference to the Good Neighbor<\/a>hood plan and the process has been in the past for this to happen, i want to see if we can make an amendment that wouldnt slow the legislation down but to clarify how we move from into the temporary adult use process. And then, its you mentioned that City Attorney<\/a> gibbner that this is not substance and we could make the amendment either today or tomorrow. You should make it tomorrow if you plan to make it. Well take direction from you today if its the will of the committee or any individual member, we can draft it for tomorrow. That would be helpful for me. I dont know what im really voting on in this case. I can ask him to draft it and you can review it. That would make me more comfortable. Okay. The question i have about it, once you go through the process to a law for existing mcds to adult use, is that what were doing . Okay. This review process deems a particular Retail Business<\/a> that they have not been doing what theyre supposed to do. Is there is there an appeal process to this or is it just final word so i was not clear on that myself and i just asked that question. What they said is the way it is currently written they is who . The deputy City Attorney<\/a>s. Sorry. Just a lot of moving pieces very quickly on this. What they said is currently the way it is written, there is no appeal of review, this would just be affectual. I think if were ready, by december 1st, the office of cannibis could start issuing cannibis retail permits for the existing mcds and delivery businesses. What i was trying to say is there should be some level of this type of review, for the good actors i think would be pretty easy but for the ones that have work to do it would slow them down a little bit. What im saying, i understand the review process that youre suggesting, but at some point it seems like miss elliot is going to make a decision on her own to say yes or no and then which is giving her a lot of power. You dont have a condition right now, just you . There is no commission. If theres disagreement between one person and one business, is that it . I dont know the answer to that. I mean, if theres i think that the way that a lot of the administrative process works for the office of cannibis, there would be formalized approval of terms of an application. So this is a piece of that. Were talking about pieces of an application. This is the application for temporary, so if they have met that in satisfaction of that office, then that would happen. But there are certain things i think this is some discretionary review for sure, thats why i said in consultation with supervisors and input from the Police Captain<\/a>. Thats the practice in the past. I will add that article 16 permits that create permanent use for adult use for that operator is appealable to the board of appeals. Okay. That clarifies everything. Thank you very much. Supervisor sheehy did you want to talk about i want to know the piece of existing businesses, its not like something is going to happen, people are still going in every day and purchasing cannibis. So its not like were introducing a new business, were just adding a use. And then if youre looking for where this is, its on page i think probably going in on page 88 there is a process and im assuming adding some things. Yeah. Particularly the management of security plan because i know theres varying degrees of ways in which businesses are securing themselves. Some have armed guards, some dont, some have bars ton windows, some dont. Theres all types of things like that. So i think it would be good to have a level of review in the transition. You want to have a second look before yes. Yeah. The Decision Maker<\/a> would be the office of cannibis, but when you say supervisor, i assume youre eluding to the supervisor of the district. District. And the captain, which will know if there are disputes. That seems reasonable. For instance for our district, we have in engelside we have three in district 11 and i dont know how many are on the border of district nine. Thats the other part. I dont think theres anything on the southern part and the 1 on ocean avenue. I know in the past they are familiar with mcds. I want to be Crystal Clear<\/a>. When the City Attorney<\/a> shakes her head it makes me nervous. The decision of my office to review and approve a security plan and Good Neighbor<\/a> policy is not appealable. However, once my office makes applications available, they have a duty to apply for the application within 30 days of becoming available and the article 16 permit is appealable to the board of appeals. I want to be Crystal Clear<\/a> about that. Supervisor. Im assuming we have been having this discussion, many discussions, that were preparing ourselves for the transition to adult use january 1st. I think when we so what were asking is for current operators of mcds to actually submit a good Management Plan<\/a>, a safety plan, Good Neighbor<\/a> plan, goes through the Police Department<\/a> for review, Public Health<\/a> and your office also. Those are the steps. Is that correct . Is that what im hearing supervisor . Yes. So my question is would this delay at all the opening or allowable adult used to existing dispensaries because you must review them all and we are now going into a short month of november and short month of december quite frankly and it has to go through the Police Department<\/a>. And i also feel that these dispensaries that have work to do still, it is a little unfair to say to do this without assistance on how to write a very good safety Management Plan<\/a> and because we have never formalized an office before, theres nowhere a place to get assistance for making them good actors in this business. Are we willing to say those who are not good actors, well just get rid of them, or not be able to transition to adult use or will we say that we will actually extend an olive branch and say youve been operating for a while, your dispensary is having some issues and this is how you fix it. I dont know if they have had the assistance to be a successful mcd that is safe for the neighborhood and has a safety and Good Neighbor<\/a> plan. Im hearing there are fences or people are not acting properly, but where is the vehicle in which for people to get this assistance to help to get them up to speed or are we willing to say, im asking my colleagues this, youve had a business for a couple of years, sorry, the last couple of years you have not been good so were saying you may not be able i think my questions are two pronged. One, again, will it delay the ability of existing mcds to transition to adult use now that theres a new process and were nearing the middle of november. Secondly, that what is the assistance that we will be offering i would assume it would be the office of cannibis that would give this type of assistance to mcds that either want to perfect their business or come in compliance with a Good Neighbor<\/a> policy or safety Management Plan<\/a>. Im hoping that your office would be the i mean, i would just assume that it would be your office in which the mcds would be able to assist with this type of assistance because who else has that knowledge. Quite frankly. So not only i guess im saying not to just say sorry, not in business anymore, but to say this is where you need help and this is the areas where we would like you to strengthen instead of on their own resources to become a responsible Small Business<\/a> owner. Can i respond to that . Sure. What i did in our instance, i brought in all three of the mcds physically located in my district and asked them for their management and security plans and the couple that needed additional assistance, we started giving them direction and pointed them to the office of Small Business<\/a>. They felt they were comfortable enough and the cannibis task force. Theres a lot of resources there, a lot of individuals with experience there, they have started to make significant process in terms of where they are, i think they see the motivation because they want to be a Good Neighbor<\/a>. They have expressed that. They want to do a better job of managing their businesses and they want to be prepared to do adult use. And so, i think its both the carrot and the stick and at least in the last few months, i have seen significant progress. But i would say once the finalized plan is put in place, once i see it written and submitted and have an opportunity for review, then you see the changes on the ground. But i think there are a couple of different offices along with the office of cannibis, Small Business<\/a>, cannibis task force. I think its a good point, what youre bringing up. But miss elliot, for the businesses i mean these are things that the businesses have had to do. Its not new to them. And its not unique to this particular industry either. Last week we were at the Entertainment Commission<\/a> and a local bar had been asked to resubmit their Good Neighbor<\/a> policy and asked to put in management and security plan and had not followed through on a number of things they were asked to do so the Entertainment Commission<\/a> was reviewing their entertainment permit. There were significant offences there. Its not were not asking for anything unique for the industry and i think the reason i felt comfortable in terms of i heard supervisor yee and supervisor tang and some others on the land use discussion bring up mandatory dr reviews for permits on adult use, there were questions about transition. We had these conversations last week and were trying to formalize them. I focused on this because this is something that has been done. I felt like for the ones that were they were all familiar with it, theres just a matter of there might be work that needs to be done in some cases. If it slows down the few that needs work to do a little bit, but the ones currently operating at a high level in terms of management, security and Good Neighbor<\/a>, it will be a quick resubmittal of the plan and review. The Police Department<\/a> the Police Captain<\/a> does not have to weigh in. Its recommendations from the Police Department<\/a> and so its not their final approval. Its the office of cannibis. So, im not saying that im not i would expect a very thorough review quite frankly. I would expect a very thorough review, were asking them to submit a new safe Management Plan<\/a> and a new Good Neighbor<\/a> plan, i would expect your office to do a thorough exam of every application. Were entering a new arena. I just dont know. How would this affect your office and would you be able to process the dispensary applications for adult use in the before january 1st in order for them to open . 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