Transcripts For SFGTV Government Access Programming 20171128

SFGTV Government Access Programming November 28, 2017

Deputy City Attorney, i think if you want to put in the language supervisor fewer, shall the members support it okay. So is that an an amendment . We can make it for tomorrow but giving requiring the director to provide shall sorry, hold on. I have cut supervisor sheehy off several times. Go ahead. Thank you, i appreciate that. I just think when we start getting away in the weeds no pun intended, we may create unintended consequences. The track and trace rules that the state is requiring may end up necessitating prepackaged product and could stop the whole train for patients putting into laws and rules we havent researched with conformity to state law. I ask us to be careful, thats why im asking that the director, and i think the amendment to make shall be part of it, but were coming into a different reality. The track and trace rules are very strong. And one of the reasons i understand what its like to try to figure out what works best. Thats why it was important to have on site consumption so you can sample, can you see the impact on you from different products, but i do think we have to be careful im not completely sure how the track and trace requirements are going to be implemented. Its not like today where somebody opens the draw and starts taking stuff out and weighing it and putting it into pill bottles, as much as i love that mode of doing it, i dont know how thats really going to work in terms of state law. State law at the end of the day will be ultimately what is determinative. So, im not trying to cut the debate or conversation off but do you have additional or final comments . Nobody knows what the state law is going to be. So having said that, City Attorney gibbner, before tomorrows meeting could i see a copy of the proposed language, please. Sure. So yeah we can director elliot. I want to suggest one clarifying amendment the City Attorney made me aware of. Page 58, line 12 under store front cannibis retailers, while i have been saying that as far as retail we want to retain medical and adult use the word authorities is not required. I would recommend the City Attorney draft amendment to strike authorities and put in requires. Do we have to draft that or just strike it today . If the city does it after Public Comment well send it to the meeting tomorrow. The only last thing, i think its good well have it drafted and we can kind of sleep on it and think about it a little bit more. The only thing i would say, i know from practice in terms of restaurants and limited restaurants and businesses in general, when we try to be overregulate it, if the market shifts in one way or the other, they will do the bear minimum to meet the requirements. If it becomes rules from track and trade everything has to be packaged and we say it has to be open, i can imagine theres a tiny corner where they have a little thing open to meet the requirements of rules or because San Francisco has a robust tradition of interacting with medicine as you both have pointed out and the market here locally will dictate the demand is there and people want to have open product to smell, interact with and so on, i dont know if thats necessarily how the market will go. I think were all kind of speculating. Lets draft the amendment and well have a final conversation about it tomorrow. The only point i was trying to make was as we start to handout these temporary permits that we know were all committed to, i think were going to see in a quick amount of time how the industry adjusts in the first year. If there was an extreme movement one way or another, we have the ability to come back and adjust. Im happy to support drafting that amendment and moving forward. And so, why dont we anything else . Lets take Public Comment and come back to the amendments. We have your amendment as proposed. Do you need more direction in terms of the management and security plan, should we come back to that after Public Comment . I think we have it but well prepare that for tomorrow to vote on. Unless theres additional comments from colleagues here, and thank you supervisor sheehy for your leadership on this. I know you have been working hard on this, even over the weekend i was getting calls and trying to get the process going. I appreciate you sitting in today and all the thought put in by my fellow committee members. I know we have a lot of other business to do. Its consuming a lot of our time. Im going to open for Public Comment. Each speaker has two minutes. Please state your name clearly. Im going to call the first two speakers and as you move on, feel free to stay but i know there are people waiting to come in as well. We normally would have been in the large room. Nicole howl, doug block, alley gemalian and herald smith. Good morning im an attorney that represents cannibis businesses, my firm represents operators throughout the state. Thank you to supervisor sheehy for the amendments here today and the committee and office of cannibis for the responsiveness to the needs of the industry and requirements of social justice through the Equity Program. So, as i am often proud to be part of the San Francisco community and today is no exception and i appreciate the level of conversation thats been had. So good job so far. But theres a little bit of work to do. There are two points i would like to offer for your consideration. The first is with regard to ownership changes. At section 1808 subsection b i would like to ask the committee to please consider ownership change of up to 40 would be permitted. This services the needs of the existing operator to remain in control of the business. Cannibis operations are expensive. Its going to be expensive for these businesses to continue to operate after they have a licence and they need the ability to take on the capital they need in order to do so. So i ask you for that change and of course the change to 1608 subsection d for portable permits as well. And the second point in my 30 seconds has to do with consumption. We cannot have practical legalization without consumption areas. That is because it is illegal to consume publicly and while we have made possession legal, we have made illegal public consumption. Therefore we must have consumption areas not only for tourists and folks coming to San Francisco expecting that, but also for purposes of social justice. Were simply cutting and pasting the problem of selective enforcement. Thank you maam. Next speaker. Thank you supervisors. Doug block with Teamsters Joint Council 7. Thank you for being above and beyond the state on labor standards. Our goal has always been if the industry comes out of the shadows, the workers can choose union representation. To that end, we worked hard to shape the delivery model for cannibis to mirror liquor and beer drivers, including independent distributor from wholesaler to retail and requirement that deliveries be done by employees of permitted dispensaries with manifest for delivery and not independent contractors and thats important because independent contractors like uber drivers dont have the right to organize. Its an anti trust violation. Furthermore, drivers are frequently robbed of product and cash, there are strict product tracking requirements and there are a whole other host of reasons why an uber model, delivery model does not work. Let me say since people have asked, we worked on the state regulations with ease. Including working with them around the employee requirement. Here in San Francisco we have taken no position on their dynamic delivery model. Furthermore unfortunately at this time we have no labor piece agreements with any of the dispensaries they work with or are in discussion but hope that changes in the future. Thank you. Next speaker. Luke brunner, gilbert kinnard. Hi supervisors. Thank you for your work youre doing to keep us in business. Im a member of the california growers association. Im a local cultivator and own a manufacture for edibles. Its good you guys are looking at the prepermitting for the dispensaries but what about the supply chain. Supervisor sheehy was the only one who brought it up, not giving us temporary permits for edibles or current non conform zones, youre driving us out of city. We just signed on a building in oakland because they do have the permit in place. We operate edible manufacturing out of a well known cafes here in the city, we have a separate part in their kitchen and when they leave at 3 00 and close, we take over. How can i get that permitted for temporary use for january 1st. Essentially youre driving good businesses that have been here for over six years, weve been paying our taxes and delivery to San Francisco mcds but we are going to be down for business or move. Its a loss of corporate taxes and loss of good businesses use as a role model and were wondering why thats not in place i suppose when you take good care of the mcds. Who is going to supply them, breaking the supply chain essentially. So this you cant respond to me, its not a back and forth. But i want to point out thats why we introduced that today, what youre referring to specifically is another area dph governs on permitted businesses and were having a whole other conversation with them outside of the mcd conversation. It is very difficult to get accessory uses in the city, not just for you i understand that. But i think you under estimate how much the office of cannibis has on their work list. Theyre not going to get to all of these before january 1st. Thank you, next speaker. Im herald smith. I have been a patient since 1994. My story echos supervisor sheehys, we went through the same thing at the same time, part of the cohort of pioneer patients. I want to talk about safe consumption leads to compassion and compassion memorialized by regulation. Without financial subsidy, the compassion represents, many of us myself included would be unable to afford enough retail cannibis to maintain our regiment of health. Our industry will become nearly mercenary, lacking the vision, foundation and strength of purpose in our practice for many years. We would like to see compassionate cannibis remains a reality in practice and tenant of the long standing compassion philosophy going forward. Thank you. Honorable supervisors, im luke brunner and if i were chair i would leave before my comment, too. Firstly, i feel your public process thus far has been lacking and now at the 11th hour i want to commend supervisor fewer to getting into the difficult issue of sealed versus packaged and so forth. Thats a critical issue that an entire room full of Industry Experts has been bringing to your attention for weeks now. And they have thus far been but barely heard. I commend you for moving forward but perhaps not sufficiently enough and in enough time. Supervisor fewer, you have made a case for the necessity of increased access to consumption lounges. Similar to amsterdam and other cities where we see the unpackaged Product Available as some would say deli style or herbalist style. I think thats very important and what underlies this, a critical equity issue to address what has been otherwise lacking public process. That equity issue is the total number of sites available. Both for consumption and non consumption. You will have greater minority access. You will have greater local business access. You will have more engaged persons. Thank you. I still have 20 seconds left. If you extend my time i would love to dialogue about this with you. We have asked for this repeatedly and 74 of the voters, the San Francisco chronicle and every major media outlet has asked for this. I ask you to do the voters will. Justice delayed is justice denied. Gilbert im a disabled veteran and member of access of love. Dont let the shirt mistake you, im actually a local, the shirt is from washington state, just the shirt i want to talk about compassion, theres clubs, i mean, youre talking about maintaining the integrity of the clubs, thats questionable. You have clubs now that offer buy two get one free as the Compassion Program. Thats not a Compassion Program if you have to buy two to get the third one free. Thats not compassion. Thats a rip off actually. The other problem with integrity, whether its packaged or not, you have to have what most businesses have, fair trade practices. If you label it as lettuce, it should be lettuce. If you buy cannibis that says its like 60 salt it should be. I see a lot of clubs, its hard to get ahold of. You go to the club and say i want saltiva. They give you Something Else and you lost 30 or 40. You would think thats pretty basic. If you go to the store and think youre buying oatmeal, you dont want to end up with corn meal. Whether its packaged or not, they need to be honest about what theyre doing. I just want to call up some other names. Joshua whites, susan king, johnny galiplane. Kendra sugar. Yes. Thank you supervisors for all the work you have done, the office of cannibis and everybody who has worked on the Equity Program. I run a Delivery Business here in San Francisco, my comments will center around the Equity Program and things i think need to be recognized. Im a life long San Francisco resident born in the Mission District youre joshua. Yes. I would like to say as somebody who has cannibis [indiscernible] i feel under equity it should be extending the recognized years from 1971 to 2009 and change it from 1971 to 2016 based on the data that even under decriminalzation, communities were still more likely to be arrested than White Brothers and sisters and i think that extension from 1971 to 2016 could loop those people into the Equity Program with cannibis felonies. And a critical component of the Equity Program is the licencing of consumption lounges for all the reasons discussed already. But to highlight it again, preventing the continued criminalzation of poc communities. Thank you. Hello supervisors. Im susan king, im a San Francisco resident and activist. First, i wanted to thank you guys, this committee as well as the board as a whole and the departments involved for thoughtful and detailed deliberation to create a comprehensive and rational policy framework dealing with this new and growing industry. A couple of talking points i wanted to bring up, one is i really appreciate the equity. I know this is probably more of a land use sitting but the Equity Program is really vital to getting this right. Making sure that the people who have suffered the most under the war on drugs have an opportunity to benefit from this new industry. To that point, it is really important that we allow access and the buffer zones by limiting the number of locations will really restrict the Equity Program because if you make it a limited supply, the people with the most access will be the people with the most resources. If you want the Equity Program to work, you have to keep with the state wide rules of 600 feet and i want to advocate for grandfathering in the pipeline applicants. There are a number of businesses who had their paperwork in place but did not have a hearing set. And then finally compassion is really important for medical cannibis users to have access to their medicine. Its not covered by insurance and so having a Compassionate Use Program is important. And finally portability. Its important that the permit be tied to the operator and not the landlord. We have seen numerous disputes around that. And lastly, six seconds, temporary permit to january 1st. We cant lag at the starting line. Thank you. Good afternoon. Im the director of access of love, i operated a Community Center for over 10 years with a Harm Reduction lounge. I want to really thank supervisor sheehy for starting the process of compassion. Theres still quite a bit to work out. Of course i would like it to say must, not may have a Compassion Program. And equity and access is equal to equity and ownership. Poor patients have been here on the front lines for the last 15 years trying to get that message out. When we look at the state of washington and i get calls from Patient Advocates there all the time saying its going to happen to you next and i say over my dead body are we going to have patients priced out of the system that we laid our bodies on the front line to create. Were not going to do that here. Compassion needs to be defined as free. Its not a marketing gimmick, buy one get one free. Buy this tshirt. No, we need to have Compassion Programs that are low impact to the neighborhoods, that have the integrity of the medicinal contact like supervisor fewer was mentioning, we need to put that into the law. And it is much like the traditional chinese herbalists where you have that contact and discussion about your medicine. Lets keep compassion going. There are other discussions to have around it which i look forward to having with the director. We have stand alone Compassion Programs and our basic goal today was just to not block any of the Compassion Programs. We have to enstate sanctuary status against 64 and things that want to push to adult use. The patients are still here, were still trying to survive. Thank you. Greetings supervisors. San francisco cannibis retailers alliance. I want to thank you for your patience in listening to Public Comment. I want to urge you to consider the industry and the task force as resources for you when you have additional questions. Addressing the loose flower issue supervisor fewer, often they do that with a flowe

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