Perthe chair, hes allowed to ask, but i just get tired of people rushing to the podium, please. Commissioner fong ill ask you, what is the relationship, official or not with la cocina, because obviously its a great local organization. Yeah, im sorry for sort of rushing up. Weve been working with them for a long time, number of months, not years. There is nothing written. There is an mou out there. Both sides are committed to working together, and i dont want to speak for people who are not here, but there are reasons just beyond whats on the paper why someone isnt here from la cocina as to their commitment on this program. Commissioner fong okay. And regarding the art program, what is the understanding with regard to any potential art programs, are they on a pdr space or on actual physical walls at the moment, and mr. Hernandez has brought up if theres going to be any opportunity, lets keep it local. Well, what weve done is retain a local district to listen to the latino Arts District to assist in this front end design and phase. By that, i mean he has reached out to the greater Arts Community to assist us in identifies trans themes, concerns, constraints in the art community, so when we go to identify the mural, identify the art activity, we will be able to work very closely in the Arts Community. Commissioner fong where precisely is this space. With regard to the mural on the front, that is definitely carved out in the front. Were looking to do that in this second phase of recon with the arts dmunt. What weve idaho identified to date in the corridor, we have talked about plaques, exterior plaques, that could be done and engaged as it related to the partnership with John Oconnell, weve talked at length with the program to work with them as a design build to build the bike racks, so that could be another arts component in a program that we would partner with John Oconnell on. Other than that, i think the skys the limit in working with the arts kmubt to engage us. Commissioner fong skys the limit but its not definitive at the moment. Well, i believe there will be more, as well. Commissioners, j. W. Line with the mural. There is space on bryant street. Part of the design is a 17 by 22 foot mural on the exterior, and then, the idea with the accelerator is that as the participants would accelerate and rotate through, so, too, would the art. Commissioner fong speaking to the process of selection. Correct. So inside the accelerator space and then a mural on the exterior. Commissioner fong thank you very much. Vice president richards commissioner johnson. Commissioner johnson thank you. I think id like to continue clarifying your comments. It sounds like going back up and first saying, i did look at the mural as an issue, as commissioner richards pointed out, i did not think it was as egregious as the one we considered for the deir, and particularly with this one, theres a lot of brick work. I think the street Level Experience is extremely important in having a lot of older buildings that are really beautiful, other than a new structure. It would have been really jarring. I think it works. We dont really have strict city guidelines on how this is supposed to work. I do want to go back to the City Attorney, miss stacey. I want to bother you again. Were focusing a lot on the Community Benefits and the mou and if its signed and not sign, and what we can or cant do in terms of conditions. I feel we are treading into dangerous waters. Mous are agreements and something weve discussed in the past. Theres no contract in terms of what we can talk about, mous are legal agreement does, so can we condition it or can we not, and then we can talk about whether we want to continue it to feel more comfortable or not comfortable. Commissioners, kate stacey in the City Attorneys office. I would strongly recommend against a condition about a future agreement. I think the commission could certainly want to see more development on some of these issues for the project, but if what youre suggesting is to approve the project today and condition that an mou be entered into between or among a number of parties, i think thats a very difficult type of condition for the city to enforce, and those agreements may involve matters that are really outside the scope of government authority. So if what youre interested in seeing more development of the arts work or the use of the pdr space or the incubator space, certainly, the commission could continue it and look to see more of that kind of detail. Commissioner johnson okay. I i would be supportive of moving this project tonight just because it seems like there has been enough Movement Towards an mou and it seems like both sides are very much wanting to move that forward. Theres also an appeals process which we dont talk about very often to other bodies, but i just we would be looking at the same motion. We would just feel better about it, and thats also fine, but i just want to be very clear about that that we cant have conditions that involve another private contractor, a legal agreement. Commissioners, just to echo what the City Attorney was saying, obviously, we cant enforce private agreements, however if there are benefits of the Community Agreement that are under the purview of the commission, you do have the opportunity to add a condition. In view of what twas currently proposed, i think adding more murals would be something you can add a condition of approval on, relative, but most of the other items such as workforce and Economic Impact and tenancy, and then, you know, usage of, you know, local students, its not something thats typically under the purview of the planning commission, so. Vice president richards commissioner melgar. Commissioner melgar okay. Fine. I think its not under our purview. Nevertheless, the project sponsor came with an entire packet of supposed Community Benefits agreement that were meant to, you know, have us feel better about the project. They are asking for a bunch of exemptions from rear yard requirements and stuff, so i am not ready to move on this project tonight. I dont think its cooked. I think its you know, there are ways that you could make us feel better in presenting this package that you presented to us with all these Community Benefits agreements that would actually frankly convince me that you were making a good faith effort to engage the community. So i would not be supporting the motion to approve this project tonight, but i would support continuing it to give the sponsors a little more time to engage with the community and get, you know, a more robust, you know, Community Benefits package that engages the community in a good faith effort. Vice president richards so i, too, wouldnt be supporting us tonight, and so theres six of us, and two of us said they wouldnt be supporting it. I support a continuance, and i come back to, i think what commissioner melgar said. The interest is there. Its not the mission or the intent, its the condition at hand. If you want to make a new building look old, look at the beast on bryant. It looks old, but its new. Your building is a maish mash its just its horrible. Its horrible. Commission commissioner fong. Commissioner fong would you remind us in this condition, six of us, a tee would be a denial or a Vice President richards a t tie would be a denial. Commissioner fong all right. So im going to make a motion to continue, and im just making comment. Its pretty close. You know, this is, i think has, i think the makings of a good project coming back with some agreements, coming back with more work and time on the community, especially with the mural and artists package program, i think is important, so ill make a motion to continue this item. Secretary. Vice president richards to which date . Clerk to what date . I would recommend january , at this point. Clerk january 25th. Supervisor second. Commissioners, since we have time not that we want to sit and debate the design, since commissioner richards has provided a dissenting voice on the facade, but it sounds like a majority of the commission is okay with the facade as is, i will weigh in from the urban design teams perspective, we did find the facade was a good way of knitting the building with the existing elements. It would help to provide a strong reelthshlationship to we existing relationship is, so it was a nice meld of new and old. Vice president richards i agree on the intent. Its just the result, so was there talk of a set back of even 3 feet or 5 feet . I dont think there was talk of a set back. Because of its location on the corner, we felt strongly that the massing needed to anchor the corner, so maybe we could work with the architect to find a detail to find more reveal on the facade, and im sure knowing the architect, its something he can potentially find and explore. Vice president richards i support that. Commissioner moore. Commissioner moore i just wanted to commend the commissioners on continuing. The project has set off to terms that indeed sound very much in complement to our own objectives, however there was apparently not enough time to formalize them in a manner that is nothing that were opposing but thats indeed an agreement between the parties involved here. On the facade, i think its a good challenge. I would not put them on the bottom as much as i would put them on the top because the building is rather large, it looks somewhat lengthy, and thats where my questions about the upper part come in, so perhaps we have a little bit more time to discuss this with the architect at some other time. Vice president richards thank you. Theres a motion to continue in the second. Clerk very good, then, commissioners on the motion togs continue to january motion to continue to january 25th. [ roll call. ] clerk so moved, commissioners. That motion passes with commissioner johnson voting against. Commissioners, thats place us on item 19, 20140376 cu 1526 wallace avenue. Id like to make a quick introduction of the Staff Members whos going to be presenting number 18. Matthew chandler retired as a current planner with the flex team. He has experience in the commercial Construction Industry and city planning. Hes worked with preservation and city planning in the midwest and join is us most recently from st. Lewis, missouri. He holds a bachelors degree in planning from Missouri State university, and we welcome him to staff. Supervisor welcome, matthew. Yes. Thank you for the introduction, marcel. The case before you is a request for conditional use authorization to process and sell small livestock at 1526 wallace avenue, a parcel within the production, distribution, and repair zoning district. This was processed as a cb 3 p or Community Business priority Processing Program application. Livestock processing one, which is defined in the planning code as an industrial use that involves the life storage killing or dressing of poultry rabbits or other small livestock and or the tanning or curing of raw hides or skins from an animal of any size. This use allows direct sales to customers and requires a conditional use authorization in this zoning district. The simple reason why were here today. Saba life poultry has been in business for five decades. This use is subject to the locations and operation restrictions of section 202. 2 b of the planning code requiring the operation within a completely enclosed building with no openings other than fixed windows or exits required by law if within 50 feet of a residential district. The operation will be wholly conducted within a hard she enclosure whi enclosure, and the subject site is surrounded completely by other industrial uses and pdr zoned parcels. Saba live poultry plans to establish a second location in the bay area. The facility will process onsite and sell directly to the consumer. This style of butchering will provide a service which the San Francisco city and county currently lacks. At this time those who are limited to or wish to purchase halal products must travel outside of sprask. I have completed copies of the required categorical exemption as well as Public Comments that were received after the Commission Packet was prepared. There are also copies up here for the public, as well. The department has found the project to be on balance, consistent with the general plan, and necessary and desirable and recommends approval. This that concludes my presentation. I am available for questions. The sponsor team has a presentation to follow with additional details. Thank you. So jonas, could i hand over speaking cards for the supporters who are still here, and these are for the 16 who had to leave since things went a little bit longer. Maybe i should move over here. So good evening, commissioners. Dan franton with reuben, ginous and rose for saba live. Were here asking for the permission to grant a cu for the saba processing facility. As you heard, this will be the only facility of its kind in San Francisco, although saba does have a long record of operating eight facilities in new york, as well as in the fruitvale district in oakland. Halal generally refers to whats in islam general practices and then slaughtered according to the specific practices. A brief prayer said before the animals throat is cut. Its blood is drained, and as in every slaughter house, theres an inspector present to make sure thats everything thats done is high generalygienic. Many cultures want to see the conditions that their animals live in and are processed in, and its an important part of their food culture and their religious practices. These are some of sabas new york facilities. So you can see that theyre often in locations that are that are not industrial. Theyre residential uses. These are not industrial Scale Production facilities, theyre theyre really small scale facilities that are comparab compatible with mixed use neighborhoods. Customers at their oakland facility tend to be east asian, muslims and latinos, mainly, and then, they serve some is restaurants. Sabas decision to let me just. Sabas decision to locate in the bayview was driven by a couple of things. One is desiring to be close to their customer base. Theyre just a couple blocks off the t3rd railway line, and i think these conditions are setup to regulate much larger facilities than what saba proposes here. As know, less than 5 of San Francisco is zoned for industrial use, and that figures been getting progressively lower over time. Livestock processing is allowed only in a subset of those districts so there are really very few places for this business to go. The pdr is intended to facilitate some heavy pdr traffic. Its 24 hour trucking, relatively noising operations. There are a lot of auto body shops, a lot of very active trucking facilities around here. Sabas use is going to be much much less intensive than whats than whats going on around it. You can see some pallet facilities, a lot of auto body shops. Actually one of those is where sabas facility will be moving into. Sabas use here, its a 2100 square foot facility. Itll be completely enclosed. They anticipate storing about 500 birds onsite on a typical day to support daily sales of about 200 to 400 birds, which sounded like a lot to me when i first heard and then i went over to see their facility in fruitvale, and its really a room with a few cages of chickens in it. Its not really a large operation. Of course, there will be some peak times with more birds, but this is just the general day today. Trucking to and from the city will be or to and from the facility will be really typical for a small industrial use probably less than many of the other businesses around with one to two trucks a day. Although San Francisco only allows Livestock Processing in a few industrial districts, theyre allowed a lot more widely in in other cities, including in oakland, where you can see theres a residential building right next door. I was there, again, this morning. You dont smell any odors offsite. Its actually a pretty quiet facility. I guess im out of time for the moment, but there are a few other speakers here who im sure would like to make a few more points, and im available for questions. Supervisor thank you, so im going to take Public Comment. Im going to read some names, and you please lineup against this wall. Ina dang, marry beth alonzo, nadine may. If your names been called, feel free to approach the dais. Hi, commissioners. My name is nadine may. Im a San Francisco native, and the first thing i want to point out is i have a button on my purse that says, actually, keep our muslim neighbors safe. My tshirt says no muslim ban ever, so i dont think anyone can accuse me of islamophobe i cant, n cant islamophobe. The last slaughter house was closed before the earthquake, and the one before that was 1971. I feel that its not appropriate to have a slaughter house here. I think San Franciscos been vanguard, i think weve always been, and id like to see the city move forward on an issue that impacts not only animals, health, welfare, and the environment. Everybody knows that well, maybe you dont know, but meat and dairy industry is the number one contributor to global warming, number one. Its incredibly did estructive habitat. We dont want it around. I simply dont want San Francisco to go in that direction, and one other thing i wanted to point out is would this slaughter house have been proposed in an area like the Richmond District where i live, even if it were zoned for that, or st. Francis wood or pacific heights, no, its in the bayview, which is as we know, a poor, struggling area that i know fairly well cause i have friends there. And i think this is a question of the environmental injustice. I just dont think its fair the bayview has fought very hard to have a healthier environment, and i dont think this is going to contribute to it. I am a vegan, but i dont like in