So specific, but they were alluding to there were other referrals that are forth coming, but im not seeing anything else. Im sorry. Not specifically in your search. Not specifically to referrals, and that was the general plan at the time of the sale of the property. Okay. Actually, i have a supervisor question. You look like you have a solution or a request from the public. Yeah. I think what were talking about is the city established the use. Thats the reason. They didnt establish the use, so the city established the use years ago, so were not really talking about the city being, you know that gets to i think his question of having a having the nonconforming use, but now having to conform. Its really like the city, years ago, established the use solely to the Property Owners having established the use, and then, you know, thats why were here today. Okay. So just to acknowledge that the city established the use, and reject the letter of determination as being in error, i think that could be a way to cut the knot. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Now, the matters been submitted. So id like id like to make that motion, that we would you like to talk about it before you make the motion . Well, i think thats the answer that we just heard, is is that the city established the use of this parking the use of this parking lot. The city authorized and the use of this space as a parking lot and operated it as a parking lot, and that sets the precedent. Not the ongoing use over the last 30 or 40 years or whatever, but the city itself authorized the use and then operated it as a parking lot historically. So that thats a i dont i dont find that a slippery slope, and that would be the the intent of my motion if i were able to make it or anybody else. I would concur with that. Im in the neighborhood quite frequently. Thats a pretty dark, dark space, to be honest. Like i said, just if we could get to a space where were not setting huge precedent here, right . I would add an amendment, if i may. I have made the motion. You can make the motion. Yeah, you can make the motion. Can i Say Something first . Yes. Since were about to make a motion. I am completely sympathetic, empathetic, whatever term you wish to use. I would very much like to see this happen. I have not been persuaded that there are problems with the letter of determination, so im a little stuck on that. I totally can envision what it is youre trying to do, but i dont know if i can get there. Okay. Well, hopefully, frank will have some problem solving skills. Well, if you have a motion, go ahead. No. Im going to let you make the motion. Id just like to respond to commissioner lazarus. I think the problem with the letter of determination is that it does not recognize the citys authorization of this space as and use as a parking lot, and therefore, its denying that if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck, because they saw it as a duck historically. So thats the problem in the letter of determination is that they didnt recognize that it was an authorized use, it was a practiced use, and therefore, the practice of using it as a parking lot in the future should be authorized. Well, its already established already. Its already established. Thats, i think my response to yours. Since were all on the same side. Well, im not i think the language is a little bit different than that in the sense that, you know, the basis in terms of what the city authorized is one thing. But the continued usage of it as a paid parking lot created a legal nonconforming use. That makes sense. I would also add that to if we were to overturn the lod that on that basis, i would add to oh, whats the right word . Not necessarily confirm, but to substantiate that legal nonconforming use, i would submit a time frame of five years for them to permit that substantiate that legal nonconforming use. Commissioners, i would recommend thats outside the scope of the letter of determinations before you, putting conditions on what can happen here in the future. Youre just here determining if the Zoning Administrator abused or reached his conclusions based on the letter. Youre saying only only that . I dont whats before you is not whether there could be a time limit placed on the future. Its whether the za has found correctly that the use that theyve have asked about is a legal nonconforming use, and has found that its not a legal nonconforming use. Do you have a comment, mr. Teague . Just to reinforce the City Attorney, i mean, all of our all of our letters of determination that specifically state that, you know, this is just an interpretation of the use of the code. Its not a permit, its not anything else to comply. We dont apply conditions to letters of determination. Its simply a question, is this a legal nonconforming Public Parking lot or is it not, and the Zoning Administrator said its not. So the real the decision. But hes not here. Im sorry . Im going to leave it with no condition. So was that a motion . Thats my motion. I would need you to please restate your motion, to grant the appeal and overturn the letter of determination that the Zoning Administrator erred. Because one that the city zoning preempted its use as a parking lot prior to the sale of the lot. And secondly, the usage of the lot after the sale as a paid Public Parking lot established the legal nonconform is use. Nonconforming use. Yeah, i agree. Just because they didnt establish and continue it doesnt mean it hasnt been established already. It was a parking lot. So the basis is because the city authorized the use of the property for parking before it was sold by the city and that the use of the lot after the sale has continued as a paid Public Parking lot. Is that right . To establish the legal nonconforming clause. Okay. On that motion, commissioner lazarus. Commissioner lazarus no. President honda aye. Commissioner wilson e [ inaudible ] okay. And commissioner. Commissioner swig no. Okay. Im going to move to continue this case. Oh, good. So that Additional Information related to the citys authorized use can be provided. Takes three. Okay. Vice president , do you want to pick a date for that . One month . January 17th, commissioner swig. Hows our schedule . Well, commissioner swig wont be there that night. Id like to be there. Perhaps if you want to look at a later date. You could do the 31st. January 31st . And are you accepting submissions from both sides . Yes. Okay. Do you want them at the same time or same time would be acceptable. Okay. So the motion, then, from the Vice President is to move this continue this item to allow Additional Information related to the citys authorized use and this would be to move it to january 31st, 2018. Both sides would be allowed to submit additional submittals. Do you want briefing or do you want to set a page limit . I think they should be able to do it within five pages. Okay. With just five pages of additional briefing allowed, plus exhibit, both to be submitted the thursday prior to the hearing, okay . On that motion, commissioner lazarus. Commissioner lazarus aye. President honda aye. Commissioner wilson aye. Commissioner swig aye. Okay. That motion passes, and that moti matter is continued to that evening. Next item is withdrawn, so commissioner honda, theres no further oh, you scared me for a second. [ gavel ] s commission, extravaganza, celebration. Sf gov, we are ready to start the meeting. This is the regular meeting of the Small BusinessCommission Held december 11th, 2017. This meeting is being called to order at 5 32 p. M. The Small Business commission thanks Media Services and sfgovtv staff. Members of the public please take this opportunity to silence your phones and other electronic devicesment Public Comment during the meeting is limit today three minutes per speaker, unless otherwise established by the precider of the meeting. Speakers are encouraged but not required to state their name. Please place your speaker cards in the basket to the right of the lectern and they will be called in the order received. Will you please show the slide. Its our custom to begin and end with a reminder, the office of Small Business is the only place to start your new business and best place to get answers to your questions about doing business in San Francisco. The office of Small Business should be your first step when you have a question what to do next. You could find us online or in person at city hall, best of all, all of our services are free of charge. The commission is a place to voice your concerns about policies that affect Economic Vitality of if you have questions start here. Thank you. And welcome. Item 1, call to order and roll call. Commissioner stephen adams. Here. Commissioner kathleen dooley. Here. Commissioner mark dwight. Here. Commissioner ortiz cartagena is absent. Commissioner irene yee riley. Here. Commissioner zouzounis. Here. Public comment allows the public to comment on matters in the jurisdiction but not on the agenda. Do we have any members of the public that would like to comment on anything not on tonights agenda . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Next item, please. Item 3, approval of Legacy Business Program resolution, discussion and action item. We have Becks Motor Lodge, eddys cafe, little joes pizzeria and one twenty for hair. Richard kurylo. Richard kurylo, Legacy Business Program program manager. Sfgovtv, i have a slide. The applications were reviewed by me for completion and submitted to Planning Department staff on november 8th for their review. They were heard december 6th and made positive recommendations to the Small Business commission. For each applicant your Commission Packet contains a staff report. A draft resolution. The application. A case report from Planning Department staff and a resolution from Historic Preservation commission. There are copies on the table for the public. Item 3a is Becks Motor Lodge. Business is a family owned motel located in the castro neighborhood constructed in 1958. Becks motor lodge has 58 guest rooms and free parking and an affordable friendly welcoming place for out of towners to stay and experience the castro. In 2011, Brittany Beck, granddaughter of original owner will beck purchased the hotel from her parents. Since then its undergone renovations and improvements and now has a mid century modern design leaning toward modern, including redesign of the logo displayed on the buildings giant sign. Item 3b is eddies cafe. Opened in 1974 by owner eddie barry as soul Food Restaurant in a predominantly African American neighborhood n. 1998 the business was sold to helen and min wang who wanted to start their own business. Though the business no longer offered a strictly soul food based menu, eddies cafe still maintains welcoming environment and comforting food to others including certain traditional dishes such as grits and sausages. Item 3c is little joes pizzeria. The business is a family owned restaurant, in Excelsior Outer Mission boulevard opened 1958 by little joe russo. Features pizza, chicken parmegan and pasta dishes. In 1963 alfredo purchased the business and added a mexican element to the menu. Offering a unique menu to a diverse community. Item 3d is one twenty for hair. The business is a local haircuting and hair styling salon serving the south of market financial district. The business was open in 1985 by marko and edith paz who relocated to San Francisco from washington d. C. To establish themselves as leaders in the industry on the west coast after having run a successful and presee prestigious salon in washington. Affordable prices in a warm welcoming and familiar environment. All four businesses received a positive recommendation from the Historic Preservation commission. After reviewing these applications and the recommendations from the Historic Preservation commission, staff finds the businesses have met the three criteria to qualify for listing on the legacy business registry. There are four draft resolutions for consideration by the Small Business commission. One for each of the legacy business registry applicants. Notion a motion in support of the businesses should be a motion in favor of the resolutions. In the resolutions, please pay close attention to the core physical features or traditions that define the business. Once approved the businesses must maintain these physical features or traditions in order to remain on the legacy business registry. For Becks Motor Lodge its hotel. For eddies cafe, restaurant featuring diner fare. Little joes pizzeria its restaurant featuring italian fare. And for one twenty for hair, its a hair salon. There are business representatives in attendance who would like to speak on behalf of the applications. Great, if you dont have any questions for richard, i will open it up for Public Comment. Thanks, richard. Any members of the public who would like to comment on this item . And i see a few people here, please. Three minutes. Come on up and say your peace. We are delighted to see you here. Showtime. Its your opportunity to get on sfgovtv, visible worldwide on the web. Come on, break the ice. Hello. Im Brittany Beck of Becks Motor Lodge. The first to talk to me about this opportunity, and i thought it was a really great opportunity for my business. As was mentioned my grandfather originally built the hotel in 1958. Its been a long but short history, went from my grandfather to my dad and in 2011 to me. Unfortunately my grandfather passed away before i was born. But the castro is an amazing place and i dont think he realized what the castro would become when he built a hotel then, so being a part of the city and seeing it through the changes and wonderful things and guessing and predicting where the castro and city will go is an exciting aspect. Im excited my business is located in San Francisco and we will hopefully be there forever. I am thankful for this opportunity and i hope you approve us to move forward. Awesome. Thank you foregoing for going through the process. Come on, now its been done. You arent the first, you can be next in line. [off mic] you can come up together, its a party. My name is marko paz, im owner of one twenty for hair. We have been in business since 1985 with my wife edith, she is now taking care of the business while im here with my daughter rosie. We have two locations. 120 howard street, that is where the name come from, one twenty for hair. And we move around the corner to 155 main street, which is just around the corner so we dont lose the clientele when we move from one place to another one. Awesome. Yeah, so originally we were on howard and then move today main street. We have successfully burr burgoned in successful San Francisco, which is nice, we got to see it grow from being little mamas building to all these buildings. We are excited to be growing in the San Francisco district. Are you in the business . I dont do hair styling. Thank you. Next up. Yea. My name is alfredo rodriguez, im from little joes pizza, my parents were there in 1973. They have since both passed on. And im there with one of my sisters. And my two other sisters have also worked there. My nieces, one still works with me, a brotherinlaw, two cousins. So its pretty family. Its always been that way. And its been many years. We have been there since i was like 7 years old. And grew up there. People go where is home . This is home. Seeing people in the window is like when you water your lawn or come outside, seeing your neighbors and people. I love my neighborhood. When they say home is home, that is home. Thank you for your help and i hope this can help preserve us to stay, because i know the city goes through so many changes and times are different and im realizing im older now and you can kind of get moved on but you have to try. We have a Community Center next to us. And she brought this to my attention and i never knew anything about it. So stephanie cahina brought it to me and said we are trying. I said thats an idea. She is younger. I said let me listen to someone young and see what i can do. Okay, we started working through the application and with ricks help. Im happy. Im happy to be a part of this city. Its what we know, its where we were born. To grow with it, hopefully grow with it and thank you for your help, and if it can help us to preserve us staying at home. So thank you for your help. Fantastic. Thank you very much. Do we have anybody else . [off mic] thats okay. Come on up and Say Something. Thank you very much for being eddies cafe part of legacy business. I purchased 1988 now, its become 29 years. All my neighborhood has changed so much. Fancy restaurants come. They would rather sell alcohol, its easy to get the money. You know, its more expensive. Like one champagne cost like 11. Our breakfast costs 8. 95. [laughter] and we are really working hard, its not easy. We make everything, you know, from scratchy, all the hash browns and pancakes. Im so happy working in eddies cafe. And thank you for this city of San Francisco. Im very, very hap