Transcripts For SFGTV Government Access Programming 20180119

SFGTV Government Access Programming January 19, 2018

And other things that were going to have to do and deal with. But this is a great start. And i am just really concerned about the thing that i mentioned earlier, which of course is until theyre approved, i dont believe that they should be hosting. And then finally, this other issue around the honor system in terms of reporting. I think we need to get a handle on that too. Thank you for those comments and for the compliments too. On that note, i do feel very fortunate to work with the staff i do. They are really incredible and dedicated folks and take their job seriously. So, i thank you for that recognition. Supervisor peskin and just relative to Cost Recovery, the 2,100 plus or minus registered hosts, is that annual fee covering you and your staff . So, the amount of the fee that we assess covers only the cost of processing the application on average. So, it doesnt necessarily account for the enforcement costs. So, were going to see with the surge in applications, once we reach a static stat where most are registered, that revenue is going to drop off. We recoup some of that every two years when folks have the certificate expire and they come in for renewal. And the other part of Cost Recovery is the enforcement revenue. If were in a world where were able to more effectively police at the platform level, and platforms are compliant taking down or turning off capabilities for unregistered listings, thats fantastic. But it doesnt drive enforcement revenue. We do have a bit of a structural issue with the fact we are under a new sort of system of operating. We will still be doing some host enforcement basics. That is a bit of a challenge to work through. Within the ordinance, the Controllers Office takes a look at the fee and whether its covering the cost of the registration process. So, well work with the Controllers Office to give them best information on our current state of affairs in terms of applications were receiving, how long its taking accounting for the new appeals process that we have and the fee may be adjusted accordingly. I wouldnt anticipate several years go the fee went from 50 to 250, which was a surprise to some understandably. I wouldnt anticipate percentage wise in sort of a jump in fee anything commiserate with that. But it is important we do coast recovery at least for the application process of the program. Supervisor peskin thank you. I think you have one more slide. Yes. Wanted to leave up the Contact Information for the website, email, phone. We also have walkin hour. We have appointments. I did want to conclude giving my heart felt thanks to my dedicated and talented staff in the office of shortterm rentals who have been helpful getting to the point we are seeing the outcomes. Folks from the City Attorneys Office, city administrators offers and many others. This really has been a good sort of collaborative city family effort. I appreciate everybodys hard work on that. Of course thank you all for the time to present here today and im available for any questions that you may have. Supervisor peskin thank you, mr. Guy. And i want to also thank you and your staff and the City Attorneys Office and my colleagues who all voted for this measure. It has been a long road. We still have a ways to go. But im delighted to see the progress and we will continue these checkins from time to time as this all shakes out. I have a number of speaker cards i see supervisor breed just i want to ask real quick before we open it up to Public Comment. Mr. Guy, we had had a meeting about this a few months back. And one of the things that you said was that after a dropdead date when the platforms have got to remove listings that arent registered from their platform, you would be able to theres a time period where youd be able to collect sufficient data that could help us understand whether or not the regulations that we put in place are working effectively. So, can you tell me what that timeline is and when we can expect to see data that helps us understand exactly whats going on . This data is extremely helpful. Its the beginning. But it seems as though its going to be a completely different ball game now, especially because we have the cooperation of the platforms. So, thats going to change these numbers as well and maybe significantly. So, can you tell us when we can expect to get that kind of information to understand exactly how these laws are working . Right. A couple of things have not happened yet. Of course we just had the last phase of the delisting occur last night. We have sort of preliminary numbers and estimates, but we will get much more final data on those numbers shortly. And within a matter of several days. We also have quite a few applications to go through and obviously some of those will be approved. Some will be denied and numbers of listings and hosting will change correspondingly. So, expect sort of late february, early march, we would have a much better sense of where things will finally shake out. If the cadence of the hearings will be on a quarterly basis, we will definitely have sort of final retrospective data on the entirety of this kind of tranching process at that time. Supervisor breed okay. What day was that . Some time in april. Supervisor breed i thought it would be more in february . Again. The applications get reviewed. The data gets more refined. We could have data much sooner than the next april date. Supervisor breed but you think that more comprehensive data not until april . No. Im sorry. I was just referring if we were doing the cadence of these hearings on sort of a quarterly basis. If we did the hearing in april, we would have data by that time. But we we will get much more definitive data earlier to you than that if desired. Supervisor breed thank you. Late february. Something like that. Supervisor breed okay. Thank you. Supervisor breed madame chair, i have a number of speaker cards. Keith freedman, phil lee, jason holt, laura johnson. First speaker please. Public im a professor after city college. And coach of the home shares Democratic Club in San Francisco. I just wanted to thank kevin guy and his office for their hard work in this settlement agreement. We think we have seen a lot of progress. It helps all the hosts because we are really looking for people who are supporting the law and supporting San Francisco. We think weve seen a lot of good progress. I want to address the mayors comments whether it is okay to host while your application is pending. What were concerned about is people being penalized who have good intentions and its a concern there. If the office of shortterm rental had a Service Level agreement who could guarantee a return time on an application, it might have been agreeable to make hosts wait. But since there isnt, people could be waiting months to host when they are in compliance with the law. If there are any changes made there, we appreciate the policy and we think it has encouraged a lot of registration by good actors since they dont have to wait. We do know a lot of hosts that are waiting. They have gotten an Application Pending and for personal reasons they are waiting. People are selfselecting and we dont want to punish people. Thank you. Supervisor peskin thank you. Next speaker please. Public hello. My name is phil wllee. Im speaking in support of the registration process and implementation of the settlement. Im a board member of the home shares Democratic Club as well. Speaking on behalf of my mother today whose first language isnt english. I told her to register seeing as i was available as an option. And she has set her requirement plans based on the rules, the way they are right now. She was one of the first to comply and register and shes made a lot of changes to her living situation and investments based on the current rules. We are certainly very encouraged that there seems to be stability in the way the rules are set up for hosts who have always intended to comply and play by the rules. And hope that there will be stability of the rules in the future. Thank you so much. Supervisor peskin thank you. Next speaker. After the next speaker, joe lighthouser, kevin cred it. Public good morning. Im in district eight and proud to be a registered host that fully complies with all the laws that this legislation has set forth. We accurately report to each quarter all of our data and i use that data in those reports to then be able to calculate metrics that help me in becoming a better host. And we comply with any audits that we ever receive. I love that being a host brings the world to my door. Ive had guests from every continent except antarctica. Im still waiting for a profile picture of a penguin to come in. 30 plus countries, 30 plus states here in the u. S. And i get those people that come and experience the city through my eyes. We make recommendations to local businesses like momma gs, all the little spots in the castro that we love that these guests might not ever see if they were to stay in other places. And we support local businesses ourselves with all the handy men and work that weve done in our home to make it more accommodating for guests. Im supporting the local Business Economy as we continue to make improvements to our hundredyearold home. I thank you for helping get the ptr process online and for this service because hosts like us want to be in the good graces of the city and are happy when the bad actors are removed from it. We just ask that you give this registration process enough time and space to determine its successes before proposing any new legislation. Thank you very much. Supervisor breed next speaker please. Public thank you. Im impressed with some of the things they seem to be doing in terms of enforce. And i want to applaud the city for creating this environment through the settlement. And i also echo the idea that i think we need to see if this works. Im kind of surprised and shocked to be honest with you from the three of you that we havent been hearing more congratulations to his office. Half of the listings have been removed. Half. In a city of almost a million people. We have 2,500 hosts. And yet the questions have focused on what could they be doing wrong, how could they be cheating the system. It seems like theres a sense of distrust. I would urge you to try to give this a chance to work. Let the platforms and office of shortterm rental see how this all plays out. Yes, there may need to be adjustments made but we have made huge progress. Im shocked that doesnt seem to come across. I just want you to maybe reflect on that a little bit. I think that while some there were a lot of people doing this illegally, we have got them covered. And those Housing Units will likely come back on the market. But the people who are doing it now are doing it for legitimate reasons like the two previous speakers that you heard from. I just want to sort of echo that i think this is a good thing and we should see how this all plays out. Thank you. Supervisor peskin thank you. I think i complimented mr. Guy both online and offline and noted the progress in this and i also note that had airbnb not litigated this, we wouldnt have had to have this hearing at all. Next speaker please. Public hi. I would give you my certificate number but in view of the falsification of numbers, this may not be the proper forum. But we have been registered in anticipation of hosting for very early on in the process. We have not hosted yet. My wife and i have not hosted yet because we are waiting to remodel our house. That is going along. I would echo the benefits to all local merchants and construction people in the process. We hope to begin hosting in march of this year. I want to assure you and mr. Guy and anyone else that it is our firm intent to find a way to do this to the benefit of ourselves and others and to the detriment of nobody within the confines and structures of the current legislation. We hope to do this hope we can be counted among those people who may be honorably trying to do this right way. We have been registered for two or three years waiting to see how it settles out. Thank you. Supervisor peskin thank you. After the next speaker, eric. Public good morning. Im from district four. I host with my wife and two kids on the sunset district. Youve heard all our stories many times. I wont bore you with that. The important point, im very happy that this legislation is in place and that youve reached and agreement with the flat forms. I think it is very reasonable for all of us. And asking a lot of Great Questions today. I just want to give it a try and if things need to change in the future, they can change them. But its always important to remember were not a city about walls. Were a city known for our bridges and i think home sharing as a lot of great benefits for everybody for the community when done right. And were all about doing it right. Thats why we registered and glad to see a lot more people registering and complying and youre doing your job to enforce those actors who arent doing things the way they should. Thank you for your support and hope to continue the support. Appreciate it. Thank you. Supervisor peskin thank you. Next speaker please. Public good morning everyone. Im a single mother of a 9yearold son. Immigranted over several years ago. My current occupation is to being a host with spare room in my home. I love being a host and its the only income i have right now to support my son and covering expenses. I have been glad to hear the city and airbnb Work Together to make registration and hosting easier for all hosts in the city. I want to continue seeing that fair and easy to follow regulations for hosts like myself who rent out spare rooms to afford living in San Francisco. Thank you. Supervisor peskin thank you. Next speak. If there are any other members of the public that would like to testify, if you would line up on the right. Public hi. Im from district three. While my apartment and my roommate and i have been using airbnb since 2010, so it has been quite a while. Like some of the other people have mentioned, weve had some wonderful guests. I appreciate the legislation to deal with shortterm stays because it is a new concept and it just blossoms in the last eight years or so. It is essential that we as a city and as a group of people learn how to work with new things. I work with startups a lot and i can tell you that many startups doing some innovative and crazy things seek out and want to see proper legislation because they need guidance. And for the city to provide that guidance is very helpful. At the same time, theres guidance and theres keep changing the rules and it makes it tough for them to be able to work with us. We really like to urge the board of supervisors to really look into making model legislation so good that other cities around the world will want to copy it. And i think you can do that because we have a lot of people here with all the concerns who will help you make those legislation work. Thank you. Supervisor peskin for the record, we have been contacted by in cities. I know mr. Guys office and im sure my colleagues since the settlement. I think it is actually being replicated in other municipalties. Mr. Carlson. Public i want to congratulate you on this legislation that you passed in 2016 is indeed model legislation for cities all around the country and indeed all around the globe. Thats a little ironic considering that platform accountability, which has brought us this Great Success along with the good efforts of mr. Guy and his office, platform accountability was at the heart of proposition f. When we brought platform accountability to you and you passed it unanimously, airbnb sued and yet now they praised us as the greatest thing San Francisco has ever done. Im happy everybody is happy. There are still problems with shortterm rentals. The hosted and unhosted rentals is still not enforceable. We are concerned about the proliferation of large apartment buildings that are becoming part of airbnb so called friendly buildings program. When you have a hundred buildings and every single one is eligible to be used, seems to be it should trigger some safety concerns. Concerns about how the ada applies. Those are all questions worth exploring. While we have seen number of listings switched to being available on a 30night minimum, we keep hearing people are saying its 30 days, wink, wink. Come stay for a week and if you leave early, no problem. I think thats a problem. So, i think a lot of great work has been done and were moving in the right direction. I hope you continue to stay on top of this. Thank you. Supervisor peskin thank you. Next speaker, please. Public calvin welch. Its important to make this simple point that roughly 50 , somewhere between mid40s and 50 of all the listings were listed illegally. About half of the listings have been taken down. And those of us in share better basically started the campaign three years ago on the notion that the overwhelming a significant number of shortterm rentals were being done illegally. I think our data, the city and countys data has shown that unlike any other city in the world let me say that again. Unlike any other city in the world, when you have adequate legislation, you reduce by almost 50 the number of shortterm rentals. And that is significant in a city facing the housing crisis that we face. In the housing balance report, shortterm rentals are not even listed. And if they were listed, we would see that we are producing fewer affordable units than we lose to shortterm rentals or evictions. I support the supervisor acting president acting mayor breeds position that the assumption should not be in an industry that we have demonstrated 50 of the time is wrong, the presumption should not be when you apply, go ahead and started doing this. No. You should only be allowed to do shortterm rentals once you have been certified. Thank you. Supervisor peskin thank you. Next speaker. And if there are any other speakers after this one, please line up. Otherwise this will be the last speaker. Public thank you, supervisor breed, president breed for making the point that calvin welch just said reiterated. People should be licensed, registered before they start collecting money. A lot of people have made money illegally on airbnb, hosts and investors. So, lets set things up properly. Lets tighten the rules where they need to be tightened. Id like to see the unhosted cap, which is still unenforceable or the hosted cap of how many days a year. Weve got to get that tighter. I remember seeing advertising of a program that said heres how you can rent out two or three apartments

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