But fast forward to all the things that happened post world war ii as well. Theres many communitis that benefited and continue to benefit. Yeah. If its it may be a simple fix like bullet points, stating the number of programmes and theres already a good bit of information in the nomination, just expanding that a little bit further. Right. We could rely on this information, you know, for nominations at other levels and other Historic Context statements could use this information. Right. Thank you. Commissioner pearlman. Can i ask about the need for speed. Were talking about cramming a lot of information and deadlines and up to the 16 days from now is friday, february 2. So is there another hearing within a short period of time, because like were saying, id hate to have it almost done and then something happens because its almost done as opposed to waiting a months or two. So, mr. Frye . Commissioners, i was going to reframe what our thinking of the process would be moving forward is if this commission because this commission has passed resolutions in favour of a National Register nomination with the condition that certain edits be tidied up before the state hears the item. You could do that, in this case, and your recommendation is still advice to the state commission if they decide to agree with it or disagree wit, that is their discretion. I think what ms. Mcmillan and mr. Knapp have said is theyre willing to Work Together quickly to address these edits so that way when mr. Knapp is at the state commission can say hes addressed this commissions concerns. I think that is still an appropriate approach. If you dont, i mean, were certainly open to other options. Its fine. You know, i heard a number of people, including maybe the director of the ymc, or mr. Knapp said something that the ymca, you know, i feel this kind of vibration about gotta get done, gotta get done. The tnbc yeah. Ymca. Mr. Faulk, im sorry. Im just wondering is there some reason that, you know, if there is another hearing on march 2, can it just be moved one month. We postpone thing all the time here. Im just wondering if there is something about this particular date, mr. Knapp . You know something about this . Maybe i didnt explain it before. They meet four times a year only. And in the hopper of nominations, the staff in sacramento have approved, they cant hear them all at one hearing and there is this jockeying. So my concern is not only could we get bumped three months, then we could be competing with other people who are better at lobbying than we are and find ourselves bumped six months. That is my concern. Ok. I appreciate that. Thank you. Thats helpful. Thank you. Is commissioners oh, ok. [laughter] ill move that we ill move the staff recommendation that we do the edits, that we explained here and described today. And that mr. Knapp work with our staff to support our recommendation for nomination to the National Register [inaudible]. Thank you. Commissioner hyland . I just want to understand mr. Frye and ms. Mcmillan is can we commit to working with mr. Knapp to get the edits done so it doesnt get booted off of this right. It would have to go immediately because they requested 15 days before their hearing. We would get the letter right away and it would say that were recommending approval with these revisions. I guess the question is, can the revisions be made in the time and that means hspc staff would want to see the revisions before they made their own recommendations. Correct. Once we have the resolution number, well forward remail the resolutions to the state, o. H. P. And then well just continue to work with mr. Knapp. If he needs ours tansing, great. If not, were happy to just work dlektsly with the state office to let them know that, you know, were working in earnest with the consultant to address all the concerns or edits in the document. Yeah. I mean, i guess the question is, were saying our recommendation is conditional. But could we have it be less qualified . We recommend approval and we recommend these revisions but were not subjecting our recommendation to the revisions. Thank you. Commissioner hyland, did you have another comment . A question. Just trying to figure out how to tweak the motion so that we can offer our strong support to the nomination. Because ultimately, we support the nominations. So this is really an ed iting function that needs to happen. And i dont want it to hang up the i mean, well find something in another two months that we wish we had caught. So, im happy to support i dont know how to phrase it. How to change it. Yeah. How to frame it. Is the motion a resolution to support the nomination with with revisions as suggested by staff . I believe that is the motion. That is the current motion. Currently it says we hereby support the nomination subject to the revisions consisting of and then there are these six items. Sick move that. So i move that. I move that. I second that. And lets hope for the best. Theres nothing further, commissioners, shall i call to question . Yes. There is a motion and seconded, commissioners, to adopt a resolution in support of the nomination subject to the revisions recommended by staff. On that motion [roll call] so move. That motion passes unanimously. Best of luck. [laughter] thank you. Commissioners, that will place us on items 13a, b and c. 1 6 63 Mission Street, 4073 4th street, 4025 gerald avenue and 2120 Chestnut Street. These are all legacy business applications. Hello, commissioners. Preservation staff. If i could have the presentation up on the screen, that would be great. So we have four application for your consideration today. And right off the bat i did want to say i did make a mistake and not notifying the applicants until yesterday of the hearing. So, im not sure how many applicants were able to make nit such short notice. Im correcting my procedures. That will not happen again. I apologize. I wanted to start off by just running through each of the applications and ill give our recommendations for maybe modifications and then ill turn it over to any of the applicants for their additional comments. This is a Nonprofit Organization located on the east side of Mission Street between plum and 12th streets on the Northern Edge of the mission district. The organization was founded in 1983 and officially incorporated in 1989 so it is 35 years old. Alrp was initially formed as bay area lawyers for individual freedom. The founders were responding to the deaths of many gay men from complications of aids. Their original intent was to help these dying men draft legal documents such as wills and durable powers of attorney in order to help them die with dignity and fulfill their wishes about health care and disposition of assets. Alrp has a staff of 10 attorneys and 700 volunteers that offer direct legal representation and personalized attorneyclients referrals and more than 2100 cases per year. They help people with h. I. V. Keep their housing, maintain their financial stability, get and keep access to health care, fight discrimination in the workplace and address immigration issues that keep them from becoming fully integrated into society. Through their work, especially their housing work, they have helped preserve the character and identity of many neighbourhoods and Community Within the city. Alrp have contributed to the history and identity of the hivaids and lgbt communities and all neighbourhoods of San Francisco by serving as a source of Legal Assistance and an advocate, particularly in the areas of health care immigration, insurance and housing. Alrp is committed to maintaining the traditions that define the organization, including relying heavily on attorneys to volunteer their time to serve their clients. Taking on cases in all areas of civil law and last providing all services by alrp staff as free and providing Lowcost Services by volunteers. This is a slightly unusual application in that staff is not recommending any physical features to be part of the nomination. Other than the location of the office. And staff is recommending fully support of its nomination. So that brings us to a fullline bakery located on the south side of 24th street between castro and the valley neighbourhood. It was founded 29 years ago in 1989 but it is one of several bakeries located at the 24th street site since 1923. So, this is continuing the tradition of nearly 89 years, i believe, of bakeries that the site. Bakeries owned by a husband and wife, michael and mary gaffeson. They make everything daily in the store and they sell out almost every day. Michael handles the culinary operations and mary handles finance and business administration. And the couple opened a second bakery at 28 west portal avenue in march of 2017. Although the business has only operated for 29 years, not quite making the 30year cutoff date, staff does believe that the business significantly contributes to the neighbourhoods history and identity by continuing the long tradition of bakeries that the location. Also the business could face significant risk of displacement if not included on the registry due to upcoming rent negotiations. Noe valley is committed to maintaining the physical features and traditions that define the bakery and the 1902 building located on 24th street, including the full line of artisan baked goods and the buildings facade and foot print. Staff is recommending support of the application, but we would like to add some additional features. And to the description of the business, including business and the store front components at 4073 24th street location, including large glass panels, the transom windows, bracket sign and awning feature. Wed also like to include an intangible feature being the seasonal storefront displays of goods w. That, im going to move on to the next applicant. And that is the San Francisco wholesale Produce Market. The applicant is actually the San Francisco market corporation, which manages the wholesale Produce Market. Their office is located on the south side of gerald avenue in the bay view neighbourhood. The corporation manages the wholesale Produce Market, which is located on the site. The managing entity was created in 1963 and reorganized in 2013 as a nonprofit. The business has been in place for 55 years. In the 1960s, the merchants were moved from whats now the area near the Embarcadero Centre to its current location, prieveyously the wholesale market had operated at the site of the Embarcadero Centre since the 18 70s. The Produce Market currently occupies 300,000 square feet of space and 10 buildings and housing over 30s produce wholesalers and distributors. The approximately kanltz is commited to defining the large warehouses and staff is recommending supporting the application and adding several features to the description of the business. We would like to include the large open space which is the marshalling yard where the truckses and distributing come in. Wed like to include the wide variety of vendors as a feature. Wed also like to include the nighttime operations of the wholesale market, which is key to supporting restaurants in the city. And wed also like to include the fact that affordable spaces are offered that incubate new and small vendors. And our last applicant is luca delicatessen, an italian deli located on Chestnut Street in the Marina District. It was founded in 1929 and it has been continuously operated by the bosco family for the last 89 years. The owners of luca delicatessen sold and do sell many imported italian and french shelf items, they created a kitchen at the rear of the store to cook and produce italian food and they purchased a machine, built in italy, to make ravioli and fresh pasta. In the 1980s, the Third Generation of boscos began working at luca delicatessen and eventually took over management at the store. Luca delicatessen has contributed to the identity of the Marina District and to San Franciscos culinary heritage by providing northern italian food and recipes, originate ining the area of luca. It also helped develop an Italian Community in San Francisco. Luca delicatessen is committed to maintaining the physical features and traditions that define the italian deli, which include the luca sign, the traditional green, red and white striped awning, the 1920s black storefront tiles t original storefront windows, original store shelving, the ravioli machine, bayfront window displays, the hanging cured meats, the recipes for ravioli, bolognese sauce, minestrone soup, fritatta and potato salad. Staff is not recommending any additional features and we fully support the application. So id like to turn it over to any applicants that are present today. Would any of the applicants like to come forward to make a comment . You have three minutes and there will be a warning bell and 30 seconds before your time is up. Sure. Good afternoon, commissioners. My name is bill hirsch. I serve as the executive director of the aids legal referral panel. We provide Legal Services to People Living with h. I. V. And aids and have been doing that for 35 years. I believe we are the kind of longstanding communityserving business that was contemplated by the registry. Like our sister agencys open hand, we have served thousands of People Living with h. I. V. And aids and importantly we mobilize hundreds of volunteers to respond to the epidemic. Each year we leverage over 1 million in donated Legal Services through our volunteer attorneys. So, im happy to answer any questions that you might have. I want to thank the staff who will be helpful with the application process. Thank you. Thank you. Hi. Im janna, the Programme Manager for the San Francisco wholesale Produce Market. The general manager sends his regrets. He wasnt able to come today. He is actually meeting with fundraisers to help us move into the future. We have a very colourful and important history. And we also have a very Bright Future ahead of us. But one of the things were hoping with the legacy business designation will help us move into the future, raise our vizability and help us raise funds we need to maintain and upgrade and bring our produce businesses into the future so that we can continue to have a strong food economy here in the bay area. So, one of the things i wanted to just update, weve recently done an employee count of all the we have 30plus businesses at the market. We have now over 850 employees working there. Our small office is very tiny, but the collection of the businesses that we support. So, essentially were at platform for critical access and scale for these types of businesses, providing the food infrastructure that they need to grow and not only are 31 businesses but all the food businesses and the wonderful bay area restaurants that we have, the catering businesses. Aument interesting businesss that are cropping up or growing now in San Francisco. So, our produce businesses supply them with fresh, local produce. A lot of it from california or even local, but some of it from outside when we cant get it. I just wanted to share one story with you, if i have the time. Do i well, this is a photograph of stanley kariya and his father and grandfather started stanleys produce. In the 1940s when the businesses were clustered down in the embarcadero area. When they moved the businesses in 1963 to the bay view, his family moved as well. And stanley started in high School Working for his father and grandfather, delivering produce. He was telling this story this morning. Waking up at like 3 30, 4 00 in the morning, doing a delivery and then going to high school. And he actually bought his first condo [bell ringing] when he was 24 years old, using the money that he made. And now he runs the business. So hes a Third Generation and it is just one example of a business that weve helped to incubate and grow at the market. We have several businesses that have multigenerational connections. And we hope to see that into the future. So thank you for your support today of our designation. We appreciate it. Thank you. , there any other additional speakers who would like to comment on these items . Good afternoon. My name is michael gaston. I open noe valley bakery on 24th street along with my wife and business partner, mary. Weve been at that location since 1994. I greatly appreciate your consideration for the designation that were seeking. Especially given the current climate of Business Climate and whats going on the city and how difficult its becoming for small familyowned businesses to compete with larger corporations to stay put for generations and to continue the same type of business in the same locations through the decades. Weve carried on the tradition of supporting our neighbourhood through schools and fund raising efforts, bake sales and dont underestimate your local school bake sale. [laughter] we can raise quite a biting of money with lots of donation of product through the years. So, i greatly appreciate the efforts of the staff to get this in front of you and whatever consideration you want to give this. Thank you. Thank you are there any other additional speakers for this item . Any other Public Comment for this item . Seeing and hearing none, well close Public Comment. Commissioner johnck . I am whats resonating for me today, listening to these stories, is kind of the pointcounterpoint because on the threat. So we focused the programme, Legacy Programme often associa