The way back would create so much more expense that it would not be we would not be able to afford to build a house like this at this site. So were trying to accommodate the needs for this family for the housing and the what would be an appropriate use of the if we can zoom in, please. Hello . Well, lets go to site lines. This is a 95footwide street. You can zoom in up on top. I think well move along from there. We have a pedestrian in the middle of the street. We have the 30degreeangle site line seeing up to this second floor. From across the street, youre seeing all the way beyond the top floor and the rooftop features that weve proposed. I would like to bring mr. Rockland forward to say a few words and then i will finish up my remarks. Can you hand in the site line drawing, please . Good afternoon, commissioners. Thank you for your time. I am i lived in San Francisco for almost 30 years. My i met my wife here. I raised two kids that went to bay and my little daughter is here. I fell in love with San Francisco. I always live an american dream. I finally can afford possibly a house in San Francisco. And its, in my view, when we finally got a lot, we specifically fell in love with portera hills. Its a Nice Community to raise a kid. We asked steven sutra to design our home, who in my view has a great heritage to the city and makes a beautiful architecture. One more thing. The way i view it, the upper unit would be about 2,200 square feet. And its two units. The lower unit would be occupied by my mother, who is sitting here. So im looking forward to building this home. Thank you. Can go back to overhead, please. What mr. Sutro has done, hes here if you have any questions about the architecture, but you can see from the floor plans that are before you, its very practical housing. The second unit is not hidden away or a sham unit in any sense. Its a very practical response to getting quality Family Housing at this location. The intention of the we have an elevator in there that goes to the goes to the roof. The hope is that the grandmother will be able to go by the elevator to the roof and use that. Shes mobilitylimited, as many elders are, as we all will be someday. And future occupants of this house will have access to senioraccessible unit on the first living level. And access to quality outdoor space by way of that elevator. I think that the rocklands intend to have that available for rental when its no longer occupied by the grandmother and they expect it to provide a strong support for there being able to remain there for the rest of their lives. Thank you. Well open this up for Public Comment. I have a bunch of speaker cards. Line up and you can speak in any order. America menard, christina gardener, megan smith. Go ahead, sir, if you would like to speak, or whoever. In the original in the application for dwelling removal, it is stated that they want fourstory buildings, there are many of them in that residential neighborhood. And im only aware of one or two in the immediate several blocks of this residential neighborhood. And, of course, one is im sorry, is it not showing . There you go. Its all that im aware of within blocks of me. I live directly across the street from the proposed development. And that is what hes referring to. And so theres one other building thats about four stories high as well within a few blocks. At any rate, the plan when its shown looks at the height of the building as presented from the pavement. And because of setbacks you dont see in these photographs or plans how really, really high it is. And so that block has one and twostory height. That is looking up the street. And, of course, the lot theyre talking about is behind that big pole. And since we live across the street, looking at that site line page that you just received, when i look across the street from where i live, this is what i see. Oops. This is a rough estimation. This is garage, first floor, second floor, third floor, and then a roof deck and elevator housing, mechanical housing, on top this is what i will see from across the street. And this is the reality of the situation, how high it is. And how massive it is. Is my time up . You have 30 seconds. At any rate, i would propose that the commissioners respectfully, that this Massive Development be reduced in height. At least take off the idea of a rooftop deck, which seems to be across the neighborhood. Hopefully not. And to reduce it by one floor. That that the roof line. Thank you very much. Now your time is up. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Hello. Im mark menardi. Thank you for listening to us. Im concerned about this Lot Development because, this is a very narrow lot and its in an historic district. If there has been a determination made that the house thats being leveled is not an earthquake shack or at least fits the legal definition, it is in the historic district. [please stand by] i was born and raised on potrero hill at 951 carolina street, and i now live half a block away from my original home. The massive homes are being built in my neighborhood and existing middle class residents are being forced out of the neighborhood and changing the diversity of our neighborhood. In accordance with the San Francisco residential guidelines, an area designed with character, design building are supposed to be compatible architecturally. This is what has been specified as being inappropriate, and its a two story home with a third story and an additional fourth recess. I think its been pointed out by my neighbors, and it looks completely different than what is proposed in the guidelines. Youve seen pictures. This is this is what our block looks like, so you can see theyre all two story structures, and this is whats being proposed. We were told by linda that the building is 4400 square feet, so my question is, is this a luxury home, or is it Affordable Housing that theyre proposing . Is it a family howuse . The guidelines for the potrero area is it should be small scale residential zoning to protect the character of potrero hill. The plan does include a larger than required back yard but there are several decks that enjoy the back yard also, so we see the back space, so there is really no need for an additional roof deck for the grandmother because she has a back yard and a deck off the lower story. My suggestion for this property would be to eliminate the fourth story and roof deck and keep in line with the other structures in the area so its not our own [ inaudible ]. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, please. My name is julie jackson, i live at 898 carolina street, down just a few houses so that i didnt get the original notification of this project happening. So ive lived there since 1995. Potrero hill is a great place to raise a family. I also live there with my children and my family, and i think we need to take a minute and really confirm that 823 carolina street does not have historic significance as its specifically mentioned, and what the archives that are now held at the San Francisco public library, a book called hope chest, this book is the primary reference on earthquake shacks, and because sorry because its not listed its listed as a cottage of unknown heritage, that doesnt mean that it doesnt have significance, it just means that the study has not yet been done specifically on that and many other historic cottages. So i think that its too soon to really authorize the demolition of a property that we might have historic significance, and i think we need to take a minute to confirm that actually this property does not have that historic significance. The other thing is i do feel like the proposed project is out of scale with the neighborhood. The site line diagram that was shown earlier did not include the roof penthouse, what theyre calling a penthouse. The planning code does have an exception to allow additional height for above the height limit for certain conditions. An elevator penthouse isment to include elevator equipment. Its not meant to include another floor for the elevator. It talks about that exemption does not include things that are occupied or anything beyond elevator equipment, so here, we have an elevate i dont remember going up ten to 15 feet above the height limit, and its creating an excesstive bulk. The other funny thing about site lines when youre on a hill is oftentimes, youre not standing on the ground looking at a building up like youre in a flat situation, that this is not on the top of the hill. Theres several properties that will be impacted by such a large thing on top of this as this roof deck. So in in closing, i would just i think this property has been here for a long time. I will be excited to see something happen there. Its kind of a hole in the neighborhood; however, i dont think we should we should be not take the time to make sure were losing a Historic Resource that could be moved, could be somehow incorporated into the project. I have a letter submitted by the bernal history project, and also, i know the Victorian Alliance is also very interested in determining the historic significance. Thank you. Would you hand that letter in, please. Just leave it right there. Next speaker, please. Good afternoon, commissioners. My house is at 855 carolina street, which is next door to the hazen residence, and one of the reasons that im concerned with this house is theres Southern Exposure of the sun and the way it comes around the hill, and that essentially would just take out whatever sun light that i do have going into my back yard, of which i have this very elaborate guard that im growing right now. And on the other hand, as you look out from this, there is a very sharp curve because of the way Southern Heights comes up and wraps around and carolina comes up where cars have to make a very sharp turn. And thats a traffic situation that even though theres not much traffic, you have to be very careful up there, and it does and it does will cutoff views from that particular area. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Good afternoon. My name is kratcathy pagen, an was born and raised on carrie line astree care owe line carolina street. Were active in the community. Most recently working with our neighbors to did. I and many neighbors are growing alarms at the constant threat of our neighborhood, what was always charming maximum homes built by the working class in the early 1900s are being threatened by others moving in. The recent spate of proposed four story home in our neighborhoods of conconsisting the vast majority of two story homes is threatening to cause ever lasting degradiation to the existing homes in our neighborhood. The 900 to 100 block west side which is the site of another proposed four story home, has 26 three story, and no four story homes. The 7 to 800 block east side, which is the site of 863 carolina, 12 is three story, 3 or one four story building. As you can see, this is a neighborhood of predominantly two story homes. Having challenged numerous proposed four story structures over the last several years, i believe that the Planning Department does not appropriately give way to the residential design guideline criteria, although it is mandated to do so by law. I and so many of my neighbors continue to question how virtually every four story home proposed throu approved through the Planning Department process when our neighborhood is vastly two story homes. On numerous occasions, City Planners have told me that the areas zoned to 40 feet, period, end of discussion. This leads me to believe that the spirit and dwent of the rdg intent of the rdg are not being met. I ask that you hear my concerns and many neighbors who have voiced their concerns in writing or at this hearing and require the developer and building sponsor to modify their plans. That will still allow for increase in housing area, but ensure that we retain the character of our neighborhood. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Hello, commissioners. Thank you for having us here. My name is megan smith and im here representing the vic tore i cant be alliance. We voted last night to oppose any demolition of what we believe is an earthquake shack. We dont believe that anyone should take the word of the developer that its not, we think that we should actually investigate and determine. The letter that is being referred to is written by John Blackburn is the actual earthquake guy. He maintains the list of the earthquake history project. This particular property has been on the list the refugee shack survey done in 1998, so its easily googleable for anyone to find, and i dont think theres been enough time to determine this. As i said, the Victorian Alliance just voted last night to oppose the demolition. I know last night, there was an earthquake in my neighborhood, n noe street. I dont know the appropriate word for it, but i would like this commission to take the time to make this determination and continue the decision or whatever the appropriate word is in order to find out whether or not this is an earthquake shack or not, and the Victorian Alliance will be writing a letter in opposition to the demolition. Thank you, miss smith. Thank you. Next speaker, please. First, i would like to thank the Planning Commission and the Planning Department for their hard work. I am a member of the San FranciscoVictorian Alliance, and i wanted to just quickly share with you guys some site pictures and history of this site. So this right here is the current aerial of the site map. You can see where the site is, and then, you can see where the Water Reservoir is, and im going to put up a picture from 1932. This is a picture from 1932 of carolina street. You can heres a picture of today, just of that same picture, and then, got a picture for you guys of what carolina near 22nd looked like in 1929, so you can see various earthquake shacks that are there on the far righthand side and how theyve been modified, the south view. This is one more picture of carolina street then and now. This is from 1932, and this is today. You can see the various earthquake shacks and victorians that were built there and how they were no longer there. This is one of the remaining historical assets of this area. Theres been some talk around kind of what the definitive view of an earthquake shock is. This is a picture. So the upper right hand corner is San Francisco landmark 171. This is actually a miss torquely listed building for the city by Planning Commission resolution i think it was 9953, and you can see how its been modified from what the historical classic earthquake shack looks like. The point that i want to make after quickly showing you those pictures is 1863 is one of the remaining earthquake shacks in this area, and its currently listed by the Planning Department as a category c nonhistorical building, and i think there needs to be more further investigation to that. Currently, i think the estimate is roughly 59,000 to rehabilitate the earthquake shack. That is far below cost thats legalizing an illegal planning. Maybe its some kind of building the building and putting this in the set back or something, but further consideration needs to be made where this historical assets gone, because once its gone, its gone. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Good evening, commissioners. Chris gardner, carolina street. I would like to speak to the residential Design Guidelines in terms of their being addressed for this project, the information that came through in your pact, a packet, and jonas, could you hand these to the commissioners for as exhibits. In the packet, under the Housing Element section, there is a a review by the planner that says furthermore, the proposed new construction conforms to the residential Design Guidelines and is appropriate in terms of material, scale, proportions and massing for the surrounding neighborhood. I would like to talk about the fact that potrero hill is historical and it is extraordinary and exceptional, and the [ inaudible ]. You just need to speak into the mic. Sorry. This is the cadence of the neighborhood, and the residential Design Guidelines in the design principle, the design of the building scale and form to be compatible with that have surrounding buildings in order to preserve neighborhood character. This is a design principle that is one of the four in the residential Design Guidelines and also repeated in the Housing Element component of the Planning Departments guidances. The building scale should design the scale of the building to be compatible with the height and depth of surrounding buildings, and i encourage you to look at this the cadence of this, where youve got t roof, youve got flat roof, and youve got peaked roof, and coming here to katrinas house, and that is the line of sight to the skyline on this 800 block of the strip of potrero hill. And the overlay overlay of the new building would be such that it would sit in this location, and this is to scale, and you can see that it is a whole story above the roof line of everything else, as well as the apertenances that take up a significant Square Footage in the building. So we would like you to reduce the height of this building. Thank you, miss gardner. Thank you. Any additional Public Comment on this item . Seeing none, well close Public Comment and open it up to commissioner questions and comments. So, i mean, im happy to start on this. Well, just a question on the i guess the earthquake shackedness of this property, to the staff. So remind me of what you all kind of looked at and concluded on this. As part of the his tortoric evaluation that was