Transcripts For SFGTV Government Access Programming 20180224

Welcome. Thank you. All right, sir. You ready . You have five minutes. Yes. Okay. Go ahead. Yes, my name is john baskantelis, for the proposed be radiant beauty salons at 1327 chestnut. This will be at a location that has been unoccupied, vacant, for over 2 fa 2 1 2 years now whiche see as a missed opportunity for the neighborhood. We are proposing to invest in creating convenient Beauty Services, creating the opportunity for Small Businesses and the associated employment with that and to grow an existing neighborhood Small Business which is right next to the proposed location. While at the same time not making any exterior changes, preserving the neighborhood character and also making significant investments in improving a. D. A. Access. And right now we focus only on eyelash extensions in two rooms which has provided employment for three lash stylists and the proposed business, be radiant, will be in nine rooms, offering various services which will extend out to 19 new Small Business and employment opportunities. This will be through up to nine independent Small Businesses which will have independent ownership, branding services, pricing. And the services are varied hairstyling, barber, manicure, waxing, and the convenience comes from having those in one place so that people in the neighborhood can get all of these done, you know, very conveniently together. So the only external changes that you would see are curtains in the windows there and a sign on the door, so no change to the character of the neighborhood. And while on the other hand were proposing very beautiful internal changes, clean design, bright lighting, elegant furnishings and all of this is to attract high quality of stylists and high quality of services for the community. Any potential issues would be around a. D. A. Compliance which we agree with, greater access is definitely good for business. The site currently does not have an a. D. A. Compliant bathroom which we would be creating with all of the access as well as investing in signage, alarms and a. D. A. Compliant hallways and door entrances for each of the beauty stations. Another concern might be lack of foot traffic but high qualify Beauty Services generally are from referral business. Yuki lashes has grown extensively by having satisfied customers, friends, neighbors, and coworkers and in some cases she takes care of a group of all of their friends together. And, of course, the mobile modern version of that is yelp and we have very satisfied customers, very positive reviews on yelp which has grown yuki lashes and prompted this expansion of the Beauty Service business. So we currently operate a successful salon, so we know all of the legal requirements and have been able to operate a professional business as you can imagine that theres extensive licensing board requirements, regulations, that we comply with. And, of course, were open to the public if anybody has any suggestions or comments for this to improve this location or this business, were always open to that, not just here but at any time at the business si site. Also there might be a concern that theres going to be more Beauty Services that are not needed in this neighborhood. We think just the opposite. More competition, we think that it leads to benefits for the consumers as well as for businesses which when theres competition they need to be more creative in what they offer. They need to maintain a high level of service. And also to keep prices reasonable when you know that someone can always go to a competitor and so we think this is a benefit for the community. And weve reached out to that is your time, sir. Oh, sorry, thank you very much. Open to questions. Lets open this up to Public Comment. Any Public Comment on this . Yes, my name is mare joe artezi and i live in the neighborhood and theres not that much foot traffic and theres not much commercial, its mostly residential and theres already a hair salon a few doors up from this hair salon. And most hair salons are not in that area but down in the Commercial Area and theyre all on street level and its not like you have to climb stairs. The only concern is about seniors or people with disability to get up to the second level. And most places you will see on street level. Thats my concern is that, you know, theres already a salon in the neighborhood and i dont know if this is going to drive them out of the neighborhood. Its mostly residential and not too much commercial in that area. So thats my concern and my concern is about the handicap or, you know, people with disability to get to the second floor. That was my concern too. And, you know, this other hair salon has been in the neighborhood for over 30 years. So i hope that it doesnt drive them out because theres only a few doors from this salon. Soim just concerneso im not st one salon is to be from the other salon. But like i said im just concerned because the other salon has been there for over 30 years. So, you know, i just hope that you take this into consideration about the residential and about, you know, the handicap situation and stuff like that. Thank you for your time. All right, thank you very much. Any additional Public Comment . Seeing nobod none well open ito commissioner comments. Commissioner koppel . And how about we had an office turning into retail and different neighborhoods, obviously, but due to the long multiyear vacancy of the existing property, i dont see any other commissioners so ill move to approve. Second. Theres nothing for the commissioners and theres a motion seconded to approve this matter with conditions and on that motion, commissioner koppel . Aye. Commissioner richards . Aye. Judge, commissioner moore. Aye. And commissioner tillis. The motion passes 50. And commissioners, and item 22a, b and c for case numbers 2017 20174555c2ua, and and 2017455562drp. At 799 castro street and through to 38783880 21st street. And review while the acts admin iadministrator has comment. And you continued this matter to february 2,022nd, 2018 by a vote of 60. And accommodationer fall was absent, because this is the second time that you will hear this item will we provide the sponsor with three minutes in public testimony for one please stand by . Ease stand by effect climinate the fourth roof deck, and reduce massing at all levels, relocating the garage to expand the rear door. Separation between two buildings and the lot is increased from 8. 5 feet to 20 feet, however the variance is still required. The subject is a nonconforming with respect to density as its located within the rh2 unit. The proposals to demolish the mixed use structure presently used as office at 799 castro street in order to construct a three story singlefamily over basement. The project will introduce three units under a separate building permit. The department received no Public Comments since publication of the indicate report. The department is in support of the project and its proposed design. The Department Recommends not taking 2k r and approving the conditional use authorization for the following reasons the project will provide a family sized unit with three bedrooms that is compatible with the neighborhood and squint with the rishl design guidelines. The project will result in a gain of one net unit, no residential tenants will be displac displaced as a result of this project. And given the fate of the project, there will be no capacity on the local street system. Im available for questions. All right. Thank you. Dr requester . Good evening, commissioners. Ryan paterson on behalf of the dr requesters. First off, i want to say that we appreciate that the fourth floor has been removed, and a more traditional facade has been proposed, but the commission gave clear instructions last time, which this iteration does not follow. Its still tinkering at the edges of a project thats massive out of scale with the neighborhood, with the existing lot and structures and with the code. They can rhenvate the existing property within the existing envelope. Wed at least ask that you eliminate the required set back variance. I also want to alert you that a letter of determination has been issued for the property, and weve appealed it. The lod has some Serious Problems that affect the projects approvablity. For example it says the entire building has to be demolished, but it says the envelope can be expanded because the original building will still be in existence. These issues need to be resolved by the board of appeals in april before you consider this project. We also do object to the noticing error. The density of the proposed project is out of character with other properties in the vicinity and it greatly exceeded the average far. Its 2. 01 versus. 79. Theres 799. The project rear yards variance still reduces by two thirds direct sun light from the master suite. This is both the before and after shows. Theres been no change in this, and wed request removal of that rear yard variance. Thirdly, the proposed flat roof building is not consistent with Community Character gable roof Queen Anne Vic tory an victorian homes. Hello, commissioners. My name is larry mansbach. Im a state licensed and designated real estate praiser. Tonight im appearing as a real estate valuation expert. Im here to address the negative impact on value of the adjoining property at 789 castro street, to be caused by these variances, and the problems with the variances that result in the loss of light, air, and views from 789 castro street. Ive prepared a professional study. Its included in your packet, and as the conclusion of my work is this therell be a loss in market value of seven on 789 castro street caused by the variance in the amount of 325,000 have you. Andrew zax. I own the property on castro street. Are you part of the d. R. Team . I am. Okay. Then your time is up. All right. Well take Public Comment now in support of the d. R. My name is phil ledbetter. Im the father of denise ledbetter. Im a widower, and i live with them. As a young soldier, age 17, waiting to go to the aleutina islands, i had the opportunity to explore San Francisco, and i ma marvelled that i could go down market street, it reminded me of where i was born. Its a shame to see this building go down, rather than keeping in touch with the buildings already existing on liberty and castro streets. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Hi. My name is scott simons. Im appearing on behalf of a neighbor who couldnt be here today, kathrin tailor. I live at 783 castro. More in keeping with the architecture of the neighborhood. I would further request that the new building also have a peaked roof to better blend with the neighboring homes, and the need for variances be removed. And she also provided some pictures of the existing structure, and the different residence thats there right now. Thats all. You have 30 seconds. I didnt know if he was finished. I think hes finished. My name is shoshanna, and im appearing on behalf of two neighbors who couldnt be here. First, we very much appreciate the comments and recommendations the Planning Commission made at the conclusion of the last hearing last december. We felt that you understood our feelings about our neighborhood, and our concerns for the ways and over sight new home at 7 castro could impact it, and most of you were familiar with the significant corner of castro and 21st streets. Because of your that you sayful and forceful recommendations, we have seen the first significant changes proposed for 799 castro street by the project sponsor. However we would like to see the flat roof changed to a pitched roof as well as the traditional facade. Like most of our neighbors, there remove changes that need to be addressed for this over built lot. Thank you. Thank you. My name is pat bruskovitch. I live the next block over on diamond street. Were taking a unit ive seen the unit, and the rent control original Grocery Store and shoving it into the basement of a building, so were going to lose a rent control unit, which is a pretty nice unit, pretty easy to put back. Kitchens there, the bathrooms there, and were going to put a bedroom buried here, with no windows . cause the window thats there dont qualify. Theyre on the Property Line, and this window here doesnt qualify because its not opening up into a big enough space. Theyre going to end up with kind of a basement unit thats youre taking a rent control unit, and youre going to put a unit into basement, call it equal . I think more needs to have this question needs to be responded to before you guys move forward. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Good evening, commissioners. Day lung nao. I am a neighbor to a neighbor to the adjacent property. First i want to thank the commissioners for the guidance in directing the sponsor to revise their proposal. I would like to remind the commissioners that not every one of the recommendations has been adhered to. Various variances are still required, and i leave it to you to, in your best judgment, decide whether or not this is appropriate. The neighborhood is speaking as it is right now that it is not happy with the proposal as it is. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker. Michael murphy, 748 castro, directly across from the building proposed. Thank you for being here this evening. I have been born and raised in San Francisco. I live at that house, and that is my view, and if im going to have to look at a modern building after looking 35 years at victorians across my view, im going to be very upset. I have right now every construction worker i walk dogs in the city, and every construction site that ive seen in this city is a total mess. And alls they do is tend to destroy our city and not help our city. Thank you for listening. Thank you. Any additional Public Comment in support of the d. R. . Project sponsor . Hello again. Im the project sponsor, and because of lack of time, i just want to introduce my architect thats incorporated all the changes. Weve tried to work with the neighbors as well as incorporating the proposed changes. Im the project architect. We when we left our last hearing, we took your we took your directions to heart, and my and my client asked us to go back and redesign the project. We took the roof deck off, we took the top floor off, and we took the garage mass off, so we lowered the building, and we made the back yard 20 feet instead of ten. Furthermore, we took the front 4. 5 feet off, which remains the necessity of having a variance in the front. Then, we called for a meeting of the neighbors. My client went, met the nextdoor neighbors, and i called for a neighborhood meeting, which we then had. The neighbors clearly indicated their preference for a traditional building, which we which my client then asked me very nicely to provide them. The buildings no longer my child, its a step child. It is no longer what we started out designing, but it is still a very nice looking building, and it fits in greatly with the with the neighborhood. Can this overhead work . Im not quite sure there we go. So the the building is the building is, in fact, a similar style, and its and it works with lets see. There we go. And its worked in mass and style with the buildings with the buildings next door. We moved the garage to the front, so so its it lines up with the with the other buildings on castro street. The weve we went to the Planning Department, the pla Planning Department was in concurrence. They made us go back again and simplify it, which we did. We took it back to the neighbors again. We met with some voices of a l approval, but then, some of our neighbors came back again and asked us for a peaked roof, but theres been no peaked roof design that the Planning Department or the or the neighbors have allowed us to go forthwith. So so we respectfully ask for for this compromise solution that that weve spent so much time working onto be acceptable to you. All right. Thank you. Any Public Comment in support of the project . Okay. So well close this portion of the hearing. There is no rebutt al. There are some Public Comments on the variance, different from the d. R. I thought we called everything at one. So did those people already comment. This is the second time this is being here. Separate comments by the same people . You have to ask those people. No, i mean, you spoke already. [ inaudible ] oh, youre part of the project team. [ inaudible ] no, were done. We heard everything. So commissioners . Anyone . Not all at once. Hold on. Commissioner richards . So when we were here last time, we asked when we were here last time, we asked that the floor be removed. You did it. We asked that you dont include parking at the expense of a rear yard. Right now, the rear yards probably standard and goes like this between the two buildings. We also asked that get rid of the roof deck, and you did relocate what ive been in that building. What maybe used to be a unit a long time ago, as best you could into the new building, so i think youve done everything weve asked. Just one comment on the architecture. There are times when i walk down the street, and i see a building that kind of tries to look edwardian or victorian, its not in its time in recent construction, and they never look right. So what were the other styles that you had before this, and without the brackets up on top, and the you know, we we approved a building one block away, on 21st and noe, and it looked like a great building. It doesnt clash with the neighbors, but it doesnt actually also stand out, so and it was modern. So i guess where people want to look at something that blends more traditional, but i dont think over time this ones going to look good. So again, i have something for the overhead, and i so we have the we have the we have the modern facade which has also gone through the rdt, but commissioner richards, to be to be my clients to be my clients representative and to also listen to the neighbors, Everyone Wants the traditional theme, so as much as i as much as i agree as much as i tend to agree with that, i bow to the will of the masses. We did everything we could to make this Beauty Services<\/a>, creating the opportunity for Small Businesses<\/a> and the associated employment with that and to grow an existing neighborhood Small Business<\/a> which is right next to the proposed location. While at the same time not making any exterior changes, preserving the neighborhood character and also making significant investments in improving a. D. A. Access. And right now we focus only on eyelash extensions in two rooms which has provided employment for three lash stylists and the proposed business, be radiant, will be in nine rooms, offering various services which will extend out to 19 new Small Business<\/a> and employment opportunities. This will be through up to nine independent Small Businesses<\/a> which will have independent ownership, branding services, pricing. And the services are varied hairstyling, barber, manicure, waxing, and the convenience comes from having those in one place so that people in the neighborhood can get all of these done, you know, very conveniently together. So the only external changes that you would see are curtains in the windows there and a sign on the door, so no change to the character of the neighborhood. And while on the other hand were proposing very beautiful internal changes, clean design, bright lighting, elegant furnishings and all of this is to attract high quality of stylists and high quality of services for the community. Any potential issues would be around a. D. A. Compliance which we agree with, greater access is definitely good for business. The site currently does not have an a. D. A. Compliant bathroom which we would be creating with all of the access as well as investing in signage, alarms and a. D. A. Compliant hallways and door entrances for each of the beauty stations. Another concern might be lack of foot traffic but high qualify Beauty Services<\/a> generally are from referral business. Yuki lashes has grown extensively by having satisfied customers, friends, neighbors, and coworkers and in some cases she takes care of a group of all of their friends together. And, of course, the mobile modern version of that is yelp and we have very satisfied customers, very positive reviews on yelp which has grown yuki lashes and prompted this expansion of the Beauty Service<\/a> business. So we currently operate a successful salon, so we know all of the legal requirements and have been able to operate a professional business as you can imagine that theres extensive licensing board requirements, regulations, that we comply with. And, of course, were open to the public if anybody has any suggestions or comments for this to improve this location or this business, were always open to that, not just here but at any time at the business si site. Also there might be a concern that theres going to be more Beauty Services<\/a> that are not needed in this neighborhood. We think just the opposite. More competition, we think that it leads to benefits for the consumers as well as for businesses which when theres competition they need to be more creative in what they offer. They need to maintain a high level of service. And also to keep prices reasonable when you know that someone can always go to a competitor and so we think this is a benefit for the community. And weve reached out to that is your time, sir. Oh, sorry, thank you very much. Open to questions. Lets open this up to Public Comment<\/a>. Any Public Comment<\/a> on this . Yes, my name is mare joe artezi and i live in the neighborhood and theres not that much foot traffic and theres not much commercial, its mostly residential and theres already a hair salon a few doors up from this hair salon. And most hair salons are not in that area but down in the Commercial Area<\/a> and theyre all on street level and its not like you have to climb stairs. The only concern is about seniors or people with disability to get up to the second level. And most places you will see on street level. Thats my concern is that, you know, theres already a salon in the neighborhood and i dont know if this is going to drive them out of the neighborhood. Its mostly residential and not too much commercial in that area. So thats my concern and my concern is about the handicap or, you know, people with disability to get to the second floor. That was my concern too. And, you know, this other hair salon has been in the neighborhood for over 30 years. So i hope that it doesnt drive them out because theres only a few doors from this salon. Soim just concerneso im not st one salon is to be from the other salon. But like i said im just concerned because the other salon has been there for over 30 years. So, you know, i just hope that you take this into consideration about the residential and about, you know, the handicap situation and stuff like that. Thank you for your time. All right, thank you very much. Any additional Public Comment<\/a> . Seeing nobod none well open ito commissioner comments. Commissioner koppel . And how about we had an office turning into retail and different neighborhoods, obviously, but due to the long multiyear vacancy of the existing property, i dont see any other commissioners so ill move to approve. Second. Theres nothing for the commissioners and theres a motion seconded to approve this matter with conditions and on that motion, commissioner koppel . Aye. Commissioner richards . Aye. Judge, commissioner moore. Aye. And commissioner tillis. The motion passes 50. And commissioners, and item 22a, b and c for case numbers 2017 20174555c2ua, and and 2017455562drp. At 799 castro street and through to 38783880 21st street. And review while the acts admin iadministrator has comment. And you continued this matter to february 2,022nd, 2018 by a vote of 60. And accommodationer fall was absent, because this is the second time that you will hear this item will we provide the sponsor with three minutes in public testimony for one please stand by . Ease stand by effect climinate the fourth roof deck, and reduce massing at all levels, relocating the garage to expand the rear door. Separation between two buildings and the lot is increased from 8. 5 feet to 20 feet, however the variance is still required. The subject is a nonconforming with respect to density as its located within the rh2 unit. The proposals to demolish the mixed use structure presently used as office at 799 castro street in order to construct a three story singlefamily over basement. The project will introduce three units under a separate building permit. The department received no Public Comment<\/a>s since publication of the indicate report. The department is in support of the project and its proposed design. The Department Recommends<\/a> not taking 2k r and approving the conditional use authorization for the following reasons the project will provide a family sized unit with three bedrooms that is compatible with the neighborhood and squint with the rishl design guidelines. The project will result in a gain of one net unit, no residential tenants will be displac displaced as a result of this project. And given the fate of the project, there will be no capacity on the local street system. Im available for questions. All right. Thank you. Dr requester . Good evening, commissioners. Ryan paterson on behalf of the dr requesters. First off, i want to say that we appreciate that the fourth floor has been removed, and a more traditional facade has been proposed, but the commission gave clear instructions last time, which this iteration does not follow. Its still tinkering at the edges of a project thats massive out of scale with the neighborhood, with the existing lot and structures and with the code. They can rhenvate the existing property within the existing envelope. Wed at least ask that you eliminate the required set back variance. I also want to alert you that a letter of determination has been issued for the property, and weve appealed it. The lod has some Serious Problems<\/a> that affect the projects approvablity. For example it says the entire building has to be demolished, but it says the envelope can be expanded because the original building will still be in existence. These issues need to be resolved by the board of appeals in april before you consider this project. We also do object to the noticing error. The density of the proposed project is out of character with other properties in the vicinity and it greatly exceeded the average far. Its 2. 01 versus. 79. Theres 799. The project rear yards variance still reduces by two thirds direct sun light from the master suite. This is both the before and after shows. Theres been no change in this, and wed request removal of that rear yard variance. Thirdly, the proposed flat roof building is not consistent with Community Character<\/a> gable roof Queen Anne Vic<\/a> tory an victorian homes. Hello, commissioners. My name is larry mansbach. Im a state licensed and designated real estate praiser. Tonight im appearing as a real estate valuation expert. Im here to address the negative impact on value of the adjoining property at 789 castro street, to be caused by these variances, and the problems with the variances that result in the loss of light, air, and views from 789 castro street. Ive prepared a professional study. Its included in your packet, and as the conclusion of my work is this therell be a loss in market value of seven on 789 castro street caused by the variance in the amount of 325,000 have you. Andrew zax. I own the property on castro street. Are you part of the d. R. Team . I am. Okay. Then your time is up. All right. Well take Public Comment<\/a> now in support of the d. R. My name is phil ledbetter. Im the father of denise ledbetter. Im a widower, and i live with them. As a young soldier, age 17, waiting to go to the aleutina islands, i had the opportunity to explore San Francisco<\/a>, and i ma marvelled that i could go down market street, it reminded me of where i was born. Its a shame to see this building go down, rather than keeping in touch with the buildings already existing on liberty and castro streets. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Hi. My name is scott simons. Im appearing on behalf of a neighbor who couldnt be here today, kathrin tailor. I live at 783 castro. More in keeping with the architecture of the neighborhood. I would further request that the new building also have a peaked roof to better blend with the neighboring homes, and the need for variances be removed. And she also provided some pictures of the existing structure, and the different residence thats there right now. Thats all. You have 30 seconds. I didnt know if he was finished. I think hes finished. My name is shoshanna, and im appearing on behalf of two neighbors who couldnt be here. First, we very much appreciate the comments and recommendations the Planning Commission<\/a> made at the conclusion of the last hearing last december. We felt that you understood our feelings about our neighborhood, and our concerns for the ways and over sight new home at 7 castro could impact it, and most of you were familiar with the significant corner of castro and 21st streets. Because of your that you sayful and forceful recommendations, we have seen the first significant changes proposed for 799 castro street by the project sponsor. However we would like to see the flat roof changed to a pitched roof as well as the traditional facade. Like most of our neighbors, there remove changes that need to be addressed for this over built lot. Thank you. Thank you. My name is pat bruskovitch. I live the next block over on diamond street. Were taking a unit ive seen the unit, and the rent control original Grocery Store<\/a> and shoving it into the basement of a building, so were going to lose a rent control unit, which is a pretty nice unit, pretty easy to put back. Kitchens there, the bathrooms there, and were going to put a bedroom buried here, with no windows . cause the window thats there dont qualify. Theyre on the Property Line<\/a>, and this window here doesnt qualify because its not opening up into a big enough space. Theyre going to end up with kind of a basement unit thats youre taking a rent control unit, and youre going to put a unit into basement, call it equal . I think more needs to have this question needs to be responded to before you guys move forward. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Good evening, commissioners. Day lung nao. I am a neighbor to a neighbor to the adjacent property. First i want to thank the commissioners for the guidance in directing the sponsor to revise their proposal. I would like to remind the commissioners that not every one of the recommendations has been adhered to. Various variances are still required, and i leave it to you to, in your best judgment, decide whether or not this is appropriate. The neighborhood is speaking as it is right now that it is not happy with the proposal as it is. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker. Michael murphy, 748 castro, directly across from the building proposed. Thank you for being here this evening. I have been born and raised in San Francisco<\/a>. I live at that house, and that is my view, and if im going to have to look at a modern building after looking 35 years at victorians across my view, im going to be very upset. I have right now every construction worker i walk dogs in the city, and every construction site that ive seen in this city is a total mess. And alls they do is tend to destroy our city and not help our city. Thank you for listening. Thank you. Any additional Public Comment<\/a> in support of the d. R. . Project sponsor . Hello again. Im the project sponsor, and because of lack of time, i just want to introduce my architect thats incorporated all the changes. Weve tried to work with the neighbors as well as incorporating the proposed changes. Im the project architect. We when we left our last hearing, we took your we took your directions to heart, and my and my client asked us to go back and redesign the project. We took the roof deck off, we took the top floor off, and we took the garage mass off, so we lowered the building, and we made the back yard 20 feet instead of ten. Furthermore, we took the front 4. 5 feet off, which remains the necessity of having a variance in the front. Then, we called for a meeting of the neighbors. My client went, met the nextdoor neighbors, and i called for a neighborhood meeting, which we then had. The neighbors clearly indicated their preference for a traditional building, which we which my client then asked me very nicely to provide them. The buildings no longer my child, its a step child. It is no longer what we started out designing, but it is still a very nice looking building, and it fits in greatly with the with the neighborhood. Can this overhead work . Im not quite sure there we go. So the the building is the building is, in fact, a similar style, and its and it works with lets see. There we go. And its worked in mass and style with the buildings with the buildings next door. We moved the garage to the front, so so its it lines up with the with the other buildings on castro street. The weve we went to the Planning Department<\/a>, the pla Planning Department<\/a> was in concurrence. They made us go back again and simplify it, which we did. We took it back to the neighbors again. We met with some voices of a l approval, but then, some of our neighbors came back again and asked us for a peaked roof, but theres been no peaked roof design that the Planning Department<\/a> or the or the neighbors have allowed us to go forthwith. So so we respectfully ask for for this compromise solution that that weve spent so much time working onto be acceptable to you. All right. Thank you. Any Public Comment<\/a> in support of the project . Okay. So well close this portion of the hearing. There is no rebutt al. There are some Public Comment<\/a>s on the variance, different from the d. R. I thought we called everything at one. So did those people already comment. This is the second time this is being here. Separate comments by the same people . You have to ask those people. No, i mean, you spoke already. [ inaudible ] oh, youre part of the project team. [ inaudible ] no, were done. We heard everything. So commissioners . Anyone . Not all at once. Hold on. Commissioner richards . So when we were here last time, we asked when we were here last time, we asked that the floor be removed. You did it. We asked that you dont include parking at the expense of a rear yard. Right now, the rear yards probably standard and goes like this between the two buildings. We also asked that get rid of the roof deck, and you did relocate what ive been in that building. What maybe used to be a unit a long time ago, as best you could into the new building, so i think youve done everything weve asked. Just one comment on the architecture. There are times when i walk down the street, and i see a building that kind of tries to look edwardian or victorian, its not in its time in recent construction, and they never look right. So what were the other styles that you had before this, and without the brackets up on top, and the you know, we we approved a building one block away, on 21st and noe, and it looked like a great building. It doesnt clash with the neighbors, but it doesnt actually also stand out, so and it was modern. So i guess where people want to look at something that blends more traditional, but i dont think over time this ones going to look good. So again, i have something for the overhead, and i so we have the we have the we have the modern facade which has also gone through the rdt, but commissioner richards, to be to be my clients to be my clients representative and to also listen to the neighbors, Everyone Wants<\/a> the traditional theme, so as much as i as much as i agree as much as i tend to agree with that, i bow to the will of the masses. We did everything we could to make this Building Work<\/a> well in its traditional form. Okay. Ill wait to hear what other commissioners think. Thank you very much. Commissioner moore . The project did everything we asked for, and i do believe that the traditional, end quote, design is probably not even the right word, is easier to manage in terms of detail and materialality, that the modern design will raise a number of issues that are much beyond the control of what we are able to approve, so i think in the long run, the the way we always do a design has more promise for me, and it blends more for me, which is a big issue on that corner. I looked at the plans, and there is a second overhang on the window there, so i think that qualifies for a bedroom window. The other one doesnt. Would you mind commenting on that . If not, we need to ask for it, because it will not go for dbi. Can you project the plans so that the commission can follow along, please. Thats a2 on the second set. Its in here somewhere. Im sorry. Ill try to be faster. Theres a window that looks into the back yard, and that window has to be sealed oh, thats even better. Thank you very much. Lets look at that. That window right there has to be fire rated. Right, no, i understand that. It brings in natural light, but its not a window that the cans. This window here, you cant have an alcove accessory to the room. The concept is you cant build a little tunnel and put a window at the end and say that that window counts. So when they put the window there, that window doesnt count for the room because it doesnt meet the 50 rule of the width of the room, so that window is not going to solve their issues with light, ventilation, egress. Thank you for explaining that. I think we can point that out to the architect to resolve that issue. I see too many edus, unfortunately, who do everything, which seems to me impossible to approve, but they get built any way. So we can point that out that this ultimately needs to be a code compliant bedroom. I believe that the size and Everything Else<\/a> is indeed workable, and i do not have any problems with it, and i am prepared to not take d. R. And approve the project except with the well, theres a cu, too, before us. Im sorry . Well, theres both a d. R. And a cu . Well, what were you proposing on the design . Im going the traditional. Dont want to use the word. I mean, my trouble is the design. I think youve met kind of what we asked for, but i cant i couldnt support that. I mean, it looks like we just tacked on some bricabrac and tried to make it work. I drive down that street, and i dont think i could support that kind of design. We need it to be a little bit more contextual and maybe a peaked roof. Did you look at a peaked roof example . I think massing wise, you did what we asked. You drastically reduced the massing, but i think we need another go at the architecture. Im prepared to let the department basically constrain it a little bit more, but i believe we approved this project thoroughly, and theres not much we can give as guidance. Ill trust the department in addition to seeing some an approval of bedroom for the edu, and im prepared to let it go. Im not. I just dont think i can do that to the neighborhood or to my architectural sensiblities, which arent high, but it doesnt meet them. I get what youre trying to do, like, compromise and figure it out, but it looks like the bigger compromise anybodys ever made. I think you can design a modern building that somebody would go by 20 years from now and say it wasnt kind of built in 1800 that but youre not but nobodys fooled by that, either. I think its an odd you know, were just tacking on kind of victorian elements onto a building that it does not work on. Well, in truth, i feel that way about every every building that i see that has a to commissioner Richards Point<\/a> that has a pucfaux victorian. No, i think you can build kind of a contextual building, that doesnt go and steal their bricabrac i dont like to continue stuff more, but im not comfortable approving either design today. Well, i understand commissioner hillis, and back to the overhead, that we i beg your pardon . That we, over the course of roughly eight years, we have been back to the rdt i cant tell you how many times with different solutions, different masses, and the only way we could come up with a solution that worked was sitting with a roll of flimsy in a room with a couple of markers and coming up with a design. But it looks that way. It looks like we all sat around with a bunch of markers and designed a building. Im just im not comfortable with the design. Well leave it at that, and ill see what the other commissioners have to say. I agree with commissioner moore. Ill leave it to the staff. I have to say that original modern design that came before us last time, i hated. And not because of the building, but because of the context. It just looks completely out of place. And you know, i agree that a lot of stuff that goes up thats victorianlike thats just bad, and i think if you had a little more time, you could come up with something better. You know, a gabled roof, but i would not make a motion to go back to that original design. I thought it was not in the context of it. That was a disservice to the neighborhood. I live in a very traditional neighborhood with all kinds of architectural styles, but traditional. Once in a while theres a modern design thats not high design, but it just completely throws off the block, but you know i would not want to do that to this neighborhood. I would support commissioner moores. I would also support commissioner moores potential roof, and i would support the nonpeaked roof because its not on a corner lot. I would support it if you made the top stronger of the building, and you got rid of the brackets. You can make it look contextual without making it look imitated. Those brackets kind of look like they hold up the top. Get rid of those, and youve got a building thats more contextual and simplified. Would you entertain a condition that you work with staff . I said that, yeah. Absolutely. I just think were too far we shouldnt add to the bad design by kind of and i get it. Its not your design, but somebodys got to live there and drive by it. Like, weve got to kind of rethink the architecture and not tweak it some more. Commissioner moore . I think we should not kick the can further down the road. I believe that time spent by the arc tech in thoughtful detailing and materiality will help it be much more successful in its modern expression which i find kind of forced and somewhat unnatural for this area. So the motion stands to take d. R. On the castro side building and work with the department particularly putting emphasis on materiality, and then approve the edu to the extent that its part of the commissions responsibility. Second. Would you you also approved the edu. Yes. So in that motion together, we will be approving the conditional use authorization with conditions, yes. Very good, then, commissioners. Theres what was the design condition on that, on the cu, in the new building . So the cu theres the cu, which includes the new building. What was your the cus for the demolition and construction of the new building. But what was the design . The design continue working with the department. Its a traditional design. I hate the word, with an emphasis on looking at detailing and materiality to basically take it more into a contemporary expression of how materials are used. Its really understanding material, how windows are designed, and how the siding it supplied. Thats basically what im asking for. So theres a motion that has been seconded, commissioners, to take d. R. And continue working with the department on the design of the building, including the adu, and to approve the conditional use authorization with conditions. Just to be clear, work with the department designers on the cu portion on the project, not on the d. R. Skbl on the d. R. No, the d. R. Was on the unit. Oh, excuse me. Thank you. So then, the motion should not take d. R. No, but she wants toic at that d. R. And work on it to make sure that the adu. Oh, thats right. I think it would be good to work that out beforehand. Thank you. Thats actually better. So the motion is to take d. R. And to continue working with staff on the design of the adu, and then, to approve the conditional use authorization with conditions as amended to continue working with staff on the design. On that motion. [ roll call. ] that motion passes, 41. Acting Zoning Administrator<\/a> would say. Ill close the public hearing for the variance and intent the grant with the standard conditions. Very good. Commissioners, thatll place us under your discretionary review calendar for case number 2017003 drp at 554 lewis avenue. This is a discretionary review. Were going to hear from staff first. Were going to hear from staff first, and then, the d. R. Requester. Oh, okay. Good evening, plan commission, del watson, its on the west side of forest side. Its involving the extension of a rear stowy deck, we set back 36 from the southern Property Line<\/a>. Also includes the extension of a rear deck on the north side, 12 feet in depth and 3 feet from the north side Property Line<\/a> with connecting stairs between the first and second floor levels. The d. R. Requesters concerned with potential noise from the other decks. Residential design team has reviewed the project and determined that its consistent with our guidelines and also that it does not [ inaudible ] are you the d. R. Requester . Im the owner. Oh, youre the owner. Oh, im sorry, youre the owner of 53 forest . No, im the owner of 57. So youre opposed to the project. No, im appearing for 53 forest avenue to build the deck. I appeal. I dont agree. You filed the d. R. . Can you name the whos the whats the name [ inaudible ] steven swansons the project sponsor. And rainbow ho, is that you . Yes. Okay. Go ahead. So youve got five minutes. Okay. I will try to be fast. My name is rainbow, and i live my owner im the owner of 57 forest avenue. Im here to peal my neighbor, 53 forest side avenue to be like that, a twolevel deck building and upper level deck will result in the loss of my privacy, as it onlooks the master room. A [ inaudible ] will cause less sun light to my deck, also. And in additional, in the in the house owner were to Smoke Cigarettes<\/a> as she has in the past, the fumes and things will travel into my home. My daughter has bad asthma, and it will be detrimental to her Overall Health<\/a> and also result in other asthma attacks for her. And also safety issue and [ inaudible ] should also be taken into consideration as people who are trokted and can fall off the deck, and there were none [ inaudible ] in my neighborhood. [ inaudible ] this is my master bedroom, and the deck they are going to build is here, so this is directly looking into my bedroom. And this room is right here. They have a deck, and the deck will be over here. So sips i still have some time, i would like to represent my younger daughter. She cannot talk. Dori my younger daughter. She cannot talk. She lives in forest side avenue for three years. She loves sun light on the deck, and she loves to stay there and washing my clothes hand clothes, so they are going to build another deck over this deck, and it will cause less sun light to my deck, and this is dori, and this is night time, she sleep here. That is the window earlier i spoke to you, and dori sleep really well right now, but im just concerned if they build a deck here, will cause dori to bark at night time, and will cause disruption in both households my house, and also the neighborhood. And this is the ladder i receive from my neighbor when dori, like, not sleeping in that room, but before, she sleep out side, and this is from 53 forest side avenue. And also, other neighborhood have tell me because dori have some anxiety issues. So for me beloved younger daughter, i have to appeal because i cannot stop her barking, and this is her home for three years, and i really hope you guys take into consideration because it is really hard if a dog bark whole night and neighborhood keep complaining. And also, my privacy i lost my privacy. Good night. Thank you. All right. Thank you so much. And the project sponsors not here, im guessing . Have you seen your neighbor, the yes. They left. She left . Yes, they left. Delvin washington, staff planner. Project team leader. The project sponsor is not present. We were unaware that they would not be here. Theres a 6 foot separation between the two structures. The deck during our regular design team, we took at look at it and only from the landing on the top floor, if you look over, you can see in the window. Actually from the remainder of the upper deck, you really cant see into the windows unless you are standing on that landing portion at the top of the steps. Thats kind of what we concluded based on the angle of the windows. Again but there is about a 6 foot separation between the edge of this deck and the the neighbors building wall and window. Okay. Thank you. Commissioner moore . First comment is oh, sorry. If you want, youve got a two minute rebuttal. I just want to say thank you for your time. Still, like, this is really late right now, and i know for the roof, there may be the distance is, like, enough for somebody to build a deck, but even we i havent, like so we she hasnt built a deck. I received those letters from my neighbors because my daughter has anxiety, and i put her in this room especially here, she wont park, so she sleep the whole night. So if she is going to stay there, and then, my dog is, like, like watching them, and they will bark, like, nonstop. So i i know it is funny a little bit, but i really hope you guys can take into consideration. Thank you so much. Okay. Have you talked to your neighbor about this . We we both are, like, really busy. Like, like, she like, we are both single and have whole family to take care of, so we really dont have chance to speak with her. One time, she came over to my home to try to talk to me, but my brother just passed away in australia, so thats why i cannot talk to her. Okay. So i missed a chance to talk to her. Thank you. Commissioner moore . I believe that this submittal is quite substandard. It took me a while to determine who is the d. R. Requester, because that is not evident from the way the packet is put together, so the d. R. Is on the south side of the thing. Thats to the right if you have this plot plan here. What i would suggest under any circumstance, with or without the white dog, which is very pretty, is the deck to the north side needs a privacy screen, a trellis, because the view of the deck into those other bay windows, even with 12 feet is far too close. To the south, the other deck, i would pull that deck back from the edge of the building into a position of where it meets the first angle of the bay to give a little bit more breathing room. The deck is sufficiently large that that wouldnt do a lot of damage. Are you following me, mr. Washington, what im trying to say . So what you would like to see is the deck on the south side moved into the edge of the bay. Thats correct. On the north side, i would put a trellis on the extension of the building where it currently sits. Why on the north side, commissioner . Because its too close. Youre still looking into the bay of the adjoining building. Youre standing out there, youre looking into the bay, youre looking into the large portion of that picture window, as well, and i just think its too intrusive. Okay. So is that a motion to take d. R. . Its a motion to take d. R. And deal with privacy issues on the north and south side with the two moves that i described mr. Washington sketched out. Commissioner moore, were going to bring it in on the south side to the trellis to the edge of the bay, and then, were going to install a trellis on the north side, so essentially, a privacy screen. Is there a second . Second. Thank you, commissioners. Theres a motion that has been seconded to take d. R. And to modify the project to deal with privacy issues on the north end, south sides. On that motion [ roll call. ] so moved, commissioners, that motion passed unanimously, 50. All right. That were adjourned. Welcome to the regularly scheduled meeting of the San Francisco<\/a> ethics commission. Im going to first start with a roll call, and commission [ roll call. ] and so everyone is present, and id like to congratulate commissioner lee. She has been reappointed to a full term by mayor farrell. Great to have you continuing to be with","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"archive.org","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","width":"800","height":"600","url":"\/\/ia803108.us.archive.org\/3\/items\/SFGTV_20180224_090000_Government_Access_Programming\/SFGTV_20180224_090000_Government_Access_Programming.thumbs\/SFGTV_20180224_090000_Government_Access_Programming_000001.jpg"}},"autauthor":{"@type":"Organization"},"author":{"sameAs":"archive.org","name":"archive.org"}}],"coverageEndTime":"20240630T12:35:10+00:00"}