Transcripts For SFGTV Government Access Programming 20240714

SFGTV Government Access Programming July 14, 2024

Exhibition reports to the brief description to the whether to calendar the future meeting. Commission president s report and commissioners reports. Anything to report . 3d, commission announcements and scheduling of items identified for consideration of a future Commission Meetings. And warrants and you talked about several agencies which you talked to the press about and several agencies with the investigation and you had a plan Going Forward in terms of this and what needs to be done Going Forward. And Going Forward to avoid this type of situation and didnt come up and is maybe something to put on the agenda to speak about it because i think something i would like to knowened an i have been asks and i dont know the answer to that. And so thats, i think, we should agendize that and who is hand ing this now and what is the plan Going Forward. I talked to commissioner hirsch who is thinking about creating a working group to drop a property coal and d. G. O. Revision to address subpoenas and search warrants involving the press and if we decide to move forward and that he puts that working group together. And in terms of policy give the Department Guidance how to move forward with that. And out of that, there is certainly i discovered that the further rules, we have certain roles. With rules of orred arenaed can send it out and whoever is the first to get to a letterhead can send it out and that is disturbing. I would like to add and the Police Commission rules and the use of the letterhead to address that and set policy in place. My understanding as a commissioner and i cant speak on behalf of the full commission and make a statement on behalf of the full commission, but if i can Say Something contrary to what other commissioners want is disturbing to me. I would like to bring forward the discussion with the and not 72 hours. And the 15 days notice and put this on as soon as and the whole commission and not as one or two individuals. And i thought the letterhead reflected that. And if it doesnt, it should. I think we should put that on the calendar and address that. This has come up time and time again. We can put it on the calendar and get advice from the city attorneys office, but it is clear because its happened under every Commission Administration that the president of the Police Commission is allowed to speak for the commission and allowed to use letterhead. This is not the first and wont be the last time it happened, but we are happy to put that on the agenda for another meeting. You cannot speak of behalf of the full commission. You send out a second one to say it was from the two of you and you cannot make a statement on behalf of the full commission if the full commission has not supported it. Thats in the rules. I am pretty sure i am familiar with the rules, but it was clear that the statement was on behalf of myself and president hirsch. Lets move on. Next line item. The request to put those on the agenda were made . Yes. I would like to add the next Police Commission will be june 12, 2019 here at city hall at 5 30 p. M. And please note that the Police Commission will hold a special meeting at a location at the Park District at Gratton Elementary School on wednesday, june 19, 2019 at 6 00 p. M. And to hear comments from the public and the park station captain concerning Public Protection issues in the Park District. The public is now invited to comment on items 3a through 3d. Public comment will be two minutes. I am with the united Public Workers for action. We are outraged about the raid, illegal raid on Brian Carmody and no report and no investigation and i guess you will plan to bury it. Not that important. This is not just a San Francisco problem and the attack on journalists in australia and where abc, Australian Broadcasting company, was raided by the police to get a journalist with information illegally. This is a real issue of repression of journalism and free speech. So what we have here is a potential criminal conspiracy to violate the california shield act that you knew he was a journalist and conspired to say he had conducted a criminal act in order to invade his office and home. I think thats very very serious rand we have to compare that to the treatment of africanamerican poor people who were arrested, put in jail. Has anyone been arrested or put off because of administrative leave because of the actions they took . And no response. I think whats needed is an independent investigation. And can be relied and the commission folk. And the attorney general and you cant solve problem with the conflicts of interest and and serious and in San Francisco and the attack on journalists. Brad edwards, and i was disappointed that it seems to be a put bury and no discussion and it wasnt brought up. Chief scott, since the previous meeting has noted he has seen the light and noticed this was an error and the carmody raid and likely an illegal warrant, and it doesnt come up in the report at all. One speaker previously at the previous meeting noted he believed chief scott was saying that he believed that the i made the point he appeared to say that the journalist was had exhibited legal behavior and distribution. President hirsch responded that is not what he heard at all. That he heard the only description of the legality from chief scott was that it is transfer from the original source to the journalist, and not the journalist activity and since then we find that to be false. And not even going to bring that . Up that is exactly with a false impression to be with the president and recognized the mistakes and this is a positive step. So i support that. If you never come out and admit that we screwed up and are not going to fix it, and the p. O. A. Does. I am going to run out of time here. There are so many more things to be covered. It is unprofessional to bristle as the title leadership when you are in leadership. Just getting used to it. Ms. Brown. Im tire and i need to get home to my grandbaby. I am here to talk about my son and i am pretty here is chief scott has talked about the homicides has beening here in San Francisco. And as i come here, i like to use the overhead. I am here concerning my son who was murdered august 14, 2006. To this day his case isnt solved. I am still looking for justice for my son. I come here every wednesday to talk about this, and i guess i will be doing this for the rest of my life. I just dont do it for mire children. I do it for all the other homicide victims here on this picture and their mothers and their fathers that cant stand and are standing along, so i speak for them, too. I want to tell you that my son had a father who is still grieving for his son. And here am i standing over my sons casket and this is what the murders left me with to grieve for the rest of my life. They say there is no limit, no statute of limitation for homicide. You guys have the names of all the perpetrators that murdered my son. And i am just asking for justice so that i dont have to come here anymore and show these pictures because it hurts. Sometimes i feel like i am just really stupid coming here every time, but i need to for my own therapy, and this is my therapy coming here instead of sitting at a therapists office. Thank you. Thank you, ms. Brown. I think were all sad and disappointed that you are here every week. And i would urge the public and the tip line if you have any information about the murder of aubrey, call 4155754444. Someone knows, someone was there. When this boy was murdered. If you have information, please bring it forth. That is the only way these can get solved. Good evening. I want to reiterate what the twho gentlemen have said, why do we hear nothing about this report . Who is doing the investigation . Why doesnt the why didnt you mention Paul Henderson that you are doing an investigation . You dont have to say what it is, but it is like it disappeared. This is where this is matter is supposed to be discussed. Were all kind of in shock. This has Gone National and international. Our city is looking terrible and nobody is even talking about it. And now the p. O. A. Which i find to be the most despicable group that i have ever experienced noo my entire time as an activist because they do personal attacks over and over ben again. I do appreciate, chief, that you apologized and the ability to apologize is commendable, but that you are not talking about it at all tonight is disturbing. I think that people if i were you, i would go the high road to not talking to people like p. O. A. And called Hillary Ronin imbalanced and up to jeff for the neighbor he lived in so a Police Officer call someone a crazy white marxist. And i dont think that works for me. I think it is important that you make sure there is no attacks on personalities and people and their lives during this process. That there is a memorandum and we dont support this behavior and we want to hear about it in all situations. I would preeshlt it if you would stop calling us the audience. We are not here to observe in a passive role. We are the people. We are the public. I am the president of officers for justice and we are here to support our chief. Thank you for your time. Thank you for coming. Thank you very much. Thank you for your service, too. And just for those in the audience, were not commenting on an open investigation because its an open investigation. And we want the results just as much as you do. So if there is curiosity about that, that is why. And i will talk about sb14 again during general Public Comment, but one thing that the current item drew my attention from the m. O. U. Between the d. A. And the interviews of sfpd officers which the commissioners discussed. Prior to interview, all sfpd officers directly involved in or witness to a covered incident shall be physically sequestered from one another and directed not to communicate to maintain the integrity of their statements. Well, the last time i was here i spoke about how the d. A. And rather, the d. P. A. And the m. O. U. And the collaboration that was required in the proposed language. I would urge you to follow this language that could maintain the integrity of the agencys representations to the public. Thank you. Anyone else for Public Comment . Public comment is now closed. Next line item. Item four, discussion and possible action to approve issuance of Department Bull din 19092, Investigative Services detail internal affairs. Criminal unit name change and responsibilities modifies dgo3. 10, 6. 20, 8, 11 and 8. 12. Discussion and possible action. Good evening. Good evening, Vice President taylor, members of the commission, executive director henderson, chief scott, member of the public. I am assistant chief robert moezer and here to present to you db19092 that covers the internal affairs criminal section to the Investigative Services detail. As partover that name change and part of the responsibilities and the m. O. U. Discuss and it involves or touches several d. G. O. S and Department Bulletins. And you can see with the Department Bulletin and responsible for the following types of investigations and custody deaths and use of force in Great Bodily Injury and member involved criminal conduct and any investigation that is deemed appropriate by the chief of police. And the Investigative Services division as part of the new m. O. U. With the d. A. Will be replacing functions that were traditionally done by homicide. And will be assisting in ancillary investigations with iib outlined in that mou. That is why its noted for with use of force and as a result of taking the place the homicide and affected the following g. O. S and the firearms discharge review word and previously relied and from the homicide detail regarding officerinvolved shootings and thats the change due to the new m. O. U. Member involved Domestic Violence is simply a name change from the i. A. D. Crim to i. S. D. There is no other change beyond that. Investigations of officerinvolved shootings and discharges and in custody deaths touch on the return to duty panels which traditionally had presentations made by homicide because homicide was there investigating. And i. S. D. Would take that place. And attaining Public Safety statement had to do with providing the Public Safety statement to homicide. Obviously homicide is not going to be at the officerinvolved shooting investigations Going Forward. Release of information to the news media regarding homicides and the title says homicides but also covers in custody deaths and officerinvolved shootings. Part of that Department Bulletin refers to the fact that any information among other check points would have to be cleared by the officer in charge of the investigation. And that mirrors the general orders as well as the Field Operation and officerinvolved shootings and replace homicide with isd. Thank you. Any questions . Essentially this is just a name change that we have had already before and no questions about it. Correct. No substantive change. Just the name. Commissioner de jesus. Well, i dont know if its just a name because i looked up d. B. 19092 and it is not on the website. The only thing that comes up is the one from 17. So have you changed it already . Or is there a new Department Bulletin that is out . It is out. It is posted on the sfpd internet internal website. Im sorry . Its posted on sfpd internet internal website. An i was looking at the website for the public and d. G. O. S and Department Bulletins and no such thing there. When you give us a report and says this will effect the following d. G. O. S and Department Bulletin, i would like them attached to see how they have been changed. I actually go line by line and compare, and i dont see that. So i really am interested in obtaining a Public Safety statement and what changes are made. And i dont know. And that is something that we should know because your Department Bulletin cant stay that way. Isnt it part of a d. G. O. Or should be changing to a im sorry eventually. Eventually it turns into d. G. O. , right . If it amends. There are d. G. O. S here and i would like to see them. I think its really important for us. And asking to rule on something thats been effective and i dont know fits just a name change. If you are telling me db19 and the Department Bulletin is reissued with a name change for Investigative Services detail and Everything Else stays the same. Correct. For each of these, can you answer the questions and 3. 10, 6. 20, 8, 11, 8. 12, and 19. 028, db18. 040, and dm16 section k. And section p, fob40403. The only thing that is changed on the entire list of what i just mentioned is the name, is that right . It is the name and that homicide is no longer involved in those investigations. That is the primary piece of it is that homicide was tasked with conducting those officerinvolved shootings and in custody deaths and they no longer are. There is no other substantive change, right . Right. You mentioned written reports and does that mean it just didnt come from homicide anymore . Correct. So if homicide would lead a report during the excuse me, would provide documents and the firearms discharge review to rely on those. We are not going to be getting the reports via homicide. Where will we get them from . That is the followup. Where do you get the reports from the administrative review . We would still have all the other reports that ewith would normally get and then any other report that we would eventually receive from iab in their final investigations. Are you changing homicide to the iib . No. Homicide is not involved in this. Just taking out homicide from the d. G. O. S. Homicide would be removed, correct. And for officerinvolved shootings and in incustody deaths. Commission sner just a quick question. Effective may of 2019ia has been changed to isd, correct . Correct. The d. G. O. S and the d. B. S, d. M. Y. , all still read i. A. , correct . Well, some do. Like probably the number one on this list is 6. 20 which is number of Domestic Violence which specifically speaks to i. A. Crim which is now isd. And the other ones like officerinvolved shootings and excuse me, officerinvolved shootings and in custody deaths dont specifically speak to ia crim, but speak to homicide. We have d. G. O. S and d. B. S that have the name of a section that doesnt exist, right . If we change the name of i. A. And its i. S. D. , we are simply changing the name. There is a name change and then the function changes of homicide being involved as the lead investigator on officerinvolved shootings and incustody deaths no longer exists. It is now a function of iid and Investigative Services division as outlined in that m. O. U. And where it says ancillary investigatic functions to assume those functions. Commissioner elias. Does it now refer the officer back to the m. O. U. With the d. A. s office . If you take out homici

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