Can. We also always put language in there, if something is not working, we can go back and revisit it and clean it up, and we do a lot of that as well. So, we do our best, we perfect know, we love input and the biggest problem we have sometimes with some of these policies and procedures, we dont get enough even though the staff do an amazing job, its hard to get peoples attention on everything, and the consequences of some of the decisions we made. But we can always reverse if we have to. Thank you. I would just say that i agree that any decisions we should have should be data driven. We still have a lot more of discovery to do around what data inputs we need, and again, these kind of forums, this type of report is just the beginning for us to start digging in deeper and i think again, many of the initiatives that we are already, we have already begun, our life lines council, this process, and then through the Emergency Management and expanding that is the direction we need to go in. Being part of the applied technology team, working with these departments, interactive and involved the whole team was. So i see good things ahead because of the interaction and the buyin for the report and the recommendations to date, i cannot see it Going Forward in the right way down the road. I just want to thank the Panel Members for taking the time out to be here today. Thank you. [applause] so, this panel changes out, we have another panel session, and then well take a break. So, keeping you riveted on this stuff. We want to talk about the downtown Recovery Plan and framework, Mary Ellen Carroll will be back up again to give an introduction. Shes going to get her next note. But we do want to say we have we have brought experts to be on this panel and ryan strong is coming to the stage, bash graph, shawn mclyn and laurie johnson. While our panel get satellitessed hear. Im the director of the department of Emergency Management. Here if San Francisco, one of the reasons why were here, our philosophy, really, is that we want recovery and we believe that recovery will be most successful when we as a city and when i say we as a city, thats were, are in the drivers seat. And so, i really applaud all of you for joining us here to help in the right direction. To help last year, the mayor asked the administrator and i to establish the city so we are reconvening the budget and finance committee and i would like to recess again, so sorry, apologies to everyone spent their whole day here. But were crunching some numbers and we are very, very close. So i would like to reconvene until 5 30 and well see you back then. Thank you very much. Unity recovs mud, planning for the rebuilding of new orleans. Dr. Johnson is a visiting project scientist at the Pacific Earthquake Engineering Research center at u. C. Berkeley and chairs the National Community for hazard reduction. Sean mcglin, the city manager of santa rosa, thank you from San Francisco. And county seat of Sonoma County. Around 175,000 resident and budget of 324 million, a general fund of 148 million. In october 2017, a series of wildfires caused devastation throughout the north bay. The tubbs fire spread through santa rosa and more than 2800 structures were burned, Economic Loss of 1. 2 billion. And as city manager, sean has firsthand knowledge of the time and resources it takes to recover from such a catastrophic disaster. Lucky to have you here to learn from you. My friend barb graph, the director of the Seattle Office of Emergency Management, responsible for the citys all Hazard Community wide Emergency Management program. Since 2005, the city, seattle Emergency Ops Center has a response to 16 major exercises, 50 incidents, eight of resulted in a president ial declaration. So they are beating us right now on that. On disasters. Barb and her team also developed the seattle disaster Recovery Plan, which provides the framework for how the city recovers and rebuilds from disasters, and so we are happy to have you here to learn about that process. And finally my colleague, brian strong is responsible for the tenyear capital plan, its Capital Budget and the implementation resilient s. F. Plan, thank you, including the earthquake safety and Emergency Response bond program, the nations first sea level guidelines, and the first building by building has the seismic assessments. So, brian is going to be here to facilitate and kick us off. [applause] thank you, everyone. Thanks so much for being here. We really appreciate it. And im excited to be facilitating this panel, and again, i think if there are questions and so forth that pop up, you want to write things down on cards, you are welcome to. But i just wanted to sort of start things off with a little bit of, let me see if this works, ok, it does. All right. A little bit of background here, let me see, that looks like where are we with the presentation here. Framework there we go. All right. So, i think there was some questions already in the first panel about recovery and what do we do about all the different aspects, interdependency, the communities and those folks, this diagram here which was sort of put together, i think may have come out of fema but i think lori has as well, shows what recovery looks like. We have the different cycles around immediate response, then the midterm and the longterm response and mary ellen and i have had lots of discussions about when does, how do you coordinate your response with your recovery. Reality is this longish one, the long low oval that comes over is the Recovery Process, and this comes from our, not only our experience, you know, with the 2006 earthquake and the 1989 earthquake, but a lot of the other hazards around the world. Recovery, if you want it to be effective, needs to start immediately. The response effective, and recovery immediately, and as you begin to recover, you address the response, youll see the recovery activities pick up more and more but can be there for as long as 5, 10, you know, still seeing recovery activities in new orleans after katrina now 10, 15 years later. So, thats part of the trajectory there, one thing to keep in mind is that we know the early decisions you make in your response or in recovery have a big impact on the decision later on and i think sean can talk to some of those impacts for what they faced in santa rosa. The other thing is the decisions you make in the community, and i want to emphasize we have talked about building owners, also lots of people that live in the downtowns, as professor deerline mentioned. These are residential places and next to residential communities like chinatown here, or if we talk about mission bay, or soma, central soma, a lot of residents living, and what are the impacts on them and how you incorporate Community Input and feedback into the process. And then we also know whats critical is the speedier you address the recovery, implement the changes, the faster you are able to get back to normalcy, that economics are able to recover and so forth. And some of the examples, you know, in northern california, always criticized a little bit, took us after the loma krieta, it took time to replace the freeway, it took us some time to think about and make the decisions. Whereas in los angeles when they had the northridge earthquake and the freeway went down, they made that decision almost immediately. I think with in a couple days that they were going to replace it as is, and that freeway was reconstructed extremely quickly. Again, those are different approaches. Worked well to have it constructed quickly. I think in San Francisco it was really important for us to take our time and make sure we got it right. Not to say one way is better than the other way, but those are the implications that you have. Just wanted to, again, we do have some folks from fema here as well. I know Forest Landing is in the audience. Somewhere around here, so, oh, there he is, right here in the middle with the knee brace. Easy to find. You may have to come to him. And fema has been doing a lot of work in this area, they put together the national Disaster Recovery framework, its a guiding document for jurisdictions across the country. Describes roles and responsibilities and coordination, and its organized around Recovery Support function. We have been looking at these Recovery Support functions and barb from seattle will talk more about these and about their plan, but thats really what we built upon. We really look to seattle, a lot of discussion, couldnt we just take seattles plan, and wherever it says seattle, cross it out and write San Francisco. That was not appropriate, we are mot going there, naomi, but something that we were thinking about. Seattle has a lot of rules and regulations, and we are a city with a lot of commissions, we have a lot of different for the, and Planning Commission here, the idea of creating a framework where a Decision Making can happen separate from the regular Decision Making is something that we would, it would take a lot of time, potentially a charter amendment, thats something that we in San Francisco would need to think about a lot, we want to get going on this. This is the outline for Recovery Task force, nothing is in place yet, but this is what we are talking about for San Francisco and the idea that the top you have the community, you have the Community Members, the city manager, city administrator in our case, head of Emergency Management are making a lot of the early decisions and then the Recovery Support functions, we have elected officials, and then we have a lot of the folks here today in the community organizations, business organizations, private sector, and then the support functions are laid out in the bottom around these different areas that need to be coordinated for us to have an effective response, and that includes community, coordination and capacity, economic recovery, one of the things we note is we are expecting probably 14, 15 billion in damage just from a 7. 0 earthquake. And would happen closer to San Francisco, Economic Impacts are significant. Health and social services, and housing, we are a housing shortage now, how do we manage the losing of more housing. Infrastructure, talked about it with lifelines. Cultural resources, we know the Cultural Resources like the schools are so important to keep people in San Francisco, for them to come back and some of the building and land use decisions we need to make. Mary ellen mentioned Climate Change and do we want to continue to build, subject to Sea Level Rise and so forth. Finally the last part of this that we are emphasizing out of of the report was take a look at San Francisco downtown. We know its unique, we know its different than other parts of the city. We know it plays a critical economic role, not only in the city but in the region and the country, quite frankly, and how can we, how can we do some more work to take this recovery framework and test it out in downtown. So we are going to leverage a lot of the existing work we have. We are looking at some of the recommendations out of this report. We have our life lines analysis work, we have the tenyear capital plan, looking forward, and how can we put some of that information, the Economic Analysis we have together to formulate a Recovery Plan for downtown that we can actually use, we think, as the basis for looking at recovery across the entire city, and then i should also mention, you know, probably come up in the s. A. P. Borp conversation as well, how do we test these things to make sure we are ready when the event happens. So, having said that, i can get to our panel to sort of fill in a lot of the gaps that i covered. And one person i wanted to start with was barb graph from seattle and have her talk about their plan and the challenges they face and how they overcame them. And barb, your plan is pretty thick. Theres a lot of really good information in it. I know it must have taken some time to put together. Thanks, brian, appreciate it. So, San Francisco has a 72 chance of a major earthquake in 30 years, right . Ours is 86 chance in 50 years, so i think mary ellen and i ought to start a betting pool and whoever wins, pays the mitigation of the other city. How does that work for you . We started our Recovery Planning work about 4, 5 years ago, and this was a double phase multiyear effort, and mary ellen mentioned in her comments earlier in the first panel, and we spend so much of our time and energy and resource trying to refine and improve our response we never get around to doing Recovery Planning so i complained a lot about that to the city council who believed me, it helped a lot that christchurch, new zealand happens to be a sister city of seattle and one of the best investments we ever made was to send two of our City Council Members to christchurch and they came back and said so, how is that for you . And funding started to show up, and council was interested in briefings and we made our way along. It was also relatively the same time period that the federal government was coming out with its National Recovery framework, so we decided since a big share of assistance needs to flow through the partnership that is the federal government, this big government, the county and city, we would like to mimic what it was that the federal government had put in place. I think they put some really good time and energy and planning into that. But we did recognize a couple things that happened at the local level that does not happen at the federal lost so we amended just a little bit. Brian talked about the recovery function as being major categories of infrastructure and housing, etc. Seattle added education to the Recovery Support function three, because unless you get the schools reopened, its a major domino to getting people back to work, and just a sense of normalcy again, as well as a place of safety for the kids in your community. We also added a Recovery Support function seven, there are six at the federal level, and that has to do with buildings and land use planning. Again, something that does not happen at the federal level dictated at the local level, very important to us, especially because we wanted to take advantage of any opportunity that we get to improve things. When we put our Recovery Plan together, we imagined what if this is a relatively simple, straightforward Recovery Process. Which really mimicked what we experienced in 2001 with another earthquake. For the most part, we just needed to repair, restore, reeverything. We did not do much reinvention, but recognized the fact because of the three different types of earthquakes that we faced, including possibly the biggest this country will ever see, with the abduction zone, used the recovery framework that takes advantage of the opportunity to just change mary things that there will never be the emotion or the resource to do until that time period. So we kicked this off with about four different dozen types of agencies, neighborhood groups, the urban league, boma, downtown chamber, etc. , and looked back to the past to inspire us about the future. So, seattle like San Francisco had a big fire in the late 1800s, burned through the timber downtown, and built back one reinforced masonry, but nothing is going to burn down there. The other thing that the city Founding Fathers did at the time, which is really interesting for the time, only about 45,000 people lived in seattle at the time, they built back the water system to serve a million people. It was an opportunity theres no way in the world any one would have funded that in that time period unless what they had just gone through was painful enough to make the lesson deep. We engaged in a series of Different Community conversations and once we put people in that mind frame, the thing i gave them, if you had the opportunity to move i5, its never going to happen unless after the biggest possible earthquake. About but is the port of seattle in the right place, or a half mile or a quarter mile way away. So, how can we repair, restore, reopen quickly but also reinvent if need be, and had a series of Community Conversations just like today, which im thrilled to be a part of, where we asked people to debate and discuss with one another, also made sure people did not Pay Attention to only those areas where they were the obvious subject matter expert, and wound up getting some of the be