It is reasonable to want to keep people out of there for the safety of other people. I would push it back. With a down sloping lot, it shouldnt be hard to accommodate we will separate separately work on that. Yeah. Okay. I would like to make a motion to approve with the additional condition that the cornice be wrapped around the long sides of the building all the way down to the end of the building. I would like to add an amendment that the steps remain as is, and the second is that the sponsor will work with staff to push it further back from the property line. Agreed. Yeah. Do we have a motion . Second. Thank you, commissioners. If there is nothing further, there is a motion that has been seconded to approve this matter with conditions as have been amended for the project sponsor to continue working with staff on the cornice, having a wraparound to the end of the building for the steps to remain as is and to continue working on the fence, pushing it further back from the property line. On that motion. [roll call] so moved. That motion passes unanimously. Commissioners, that will place us on item nine. 1815 waller street. This is a landmark designation application. [laughter] look who is back. [laughter] good afternoon, commissioners francis mcmillan, Planning Department staff. That item before you is a Community Generated landmark designation application for 1315 waller street. The application was scheduled was submitted concurrently with the millis act application. In addition to the material in your packet, staff received a memo on the property prepared by an Architecture Firm and copies are provided for the commissioners. The subject property is a woodframe threestory over garage residents constructed in 1896. The property is located on the south side of waller street. The gable roof features include angled bays with windows on windows on the verse and second floors. The property is nominated for its association with the original owner, developer, an occupant of the property. He was a shipbuilder with his own company and was also a shipbuilder with the north transportation and organ steamship properties. It also includes a brief mention of commercial involvement in San Francisco. Staff recommends further research with significance as both a developer as this of the subject property, and for his role in shipbuilding and commerce in San Francisco. They were part of the wave of development in the neighborhood in the late 19th century. Additional research may indicate there is a stronger case for landmark eligibility that can be made for the property, or as a contributor to a small landmark district comprised of the subject property and the other four seasons buildings. Staff also recommends Additional Research on the propertys restoration during the 1970s as indicated by permit history provided in the application to explore and establish a connection with the bride spread restoration and Similar Properties constructed during the same period. The movement is noted in the application, but no link is made to the property. It is nominated for its clean style of architecture. We agreed the subject property is striking style of architecture. We want to bolster the significance of the building first design and as one of the four seasons, a cohesive row of properties that exemplify the style and period of construction the property is nominated as a visual landmark. The home has been featured on several city houses and the application includes excerpts on the property. Clippings from newspapers featuring four seasons and photograph of the houses recreated at florida legoland. The documentation supports eligibility of 1350 waller street, individually as a visual landmark. The documentation also establishes eligibility of the four seasons property as a collection of buildings. The Department Staff recommends the project sponsor continue to compile documentation for support of eligibility of the subject property and the four seasons under this property as materials provided and statement of significance are limited in detail. The application would that would expand to the importance of the property and the four seasons to residents to elaborate on their value. Department staff find that based on the information provided in the application, the subject property does not rise to the level of individual significance as required under Department Ten of the planning code. The subject properly property does not meet their priorities for resignation designation. Commissioners, you may take action today to add or not add waller street to the designation work program, direct staff for the project sponsor to provide additional information, or initiate or not initiate landmark designation. This concludes my presentation. I will turn the presentation over to the project sponsor who would like to speak briefly on the landmark designation application and i am available for any questions you may have. Okay. Hello. My name is amy. I am one of the homeowners at 1350 waller street where i live with my husband and my two sons. I moved to San Francisco from Southern California in 2003, thinking i would be here for a year, and fell in love with the city, the architecture, the history here that was lacking from the neighborhood where i grew up. When the winter home went on the market in 2017, i went to tour it, fell in love with the home, knew it would work, but he was out of our price range. It was listed just under three 3 million. It saved date on the market for a while for the work it needed. Still out of our price range. We eventually made an offer and stretched ourselves to buy it at 262, and then found out that the foundation had to be completely renovated. Then the bank wouldnt give us a loan on the building because the foundation was not they said they would only give us a loan on the land. We took out a construction loan and drew into our line of credit we started to work on the project with my husbands support. Anyway, the project grew beyond what we had expected it to cost. I guess that is pretty normal. In addition to the foundation, we needed structural upgrades to the walls. We had to dig down to pull out the Brick Foundation that was set in the sand and put in a new concrete foundation, and between opening up the walls to install the steel in the shear walls, we found dry rot, insufficient plumbing, which all had to be brought up to code. The project grew to be over a Million Dollars with over 300,000 of that in the structural work. We are now in the process of starting to pay back those loans and found out about the mills act, which seems like a great way for us to potentially be able to maintain this historic building. In applying for the mills act, we got bids from contractors and determined the homeowner the home will require 500,000 and additional investment in additional investment to preserve and maintain it to the level that would be recommended over the next 12 years, which we would love to do, but in order to apply for the mills act, we have to be part of that Historic Program and so we are applying for that. As they mentioned, they are recommending some more expanded states of significance and additional information. As you can see, i am not a professional. We did spend hundreds of hours researching and finding books and spending time documenting everyone who has lived in the building over the last 130 years , you know, finding everything we could find about the additional builder and all of the owners in between, the tenants in between, the fact that 40 years ago, the previous owner had been part of a program to get a zero interest loan from the city to be able to help build the Building Back up. There is a history here of people wanting to take care of this beautiful building. I can tell you we have people every single day stomping on our front steps to take Instagram Photo shoots. We have a bus tour that stops in front of the house to point out the set of homes that are called the four seasons. We have those little yellow tour cars going by. People even come up and knock on the door and ask for home tours. I met an italian woman who wrote a San Francisco guidebook who said our home is her favorite, and she wanted to come in and get a tour. I gave her one work we recently were approached about a t. V. Show wanting to be set in the home. It is a beautiful home. It is an important piece of the history. We would love to give it the love that it deserves and we are here today asking that you might help us move forward in the process to establish eligibility , either adding it to the work program or initiating it based on the existing 127 page application. Great. Thank you. I am available for questions. Any questions, commissioners . We will open this up for Public Comment. Any member of the public wish to speak to this item . Come forward. Okay. We will close Public Comment. Back to the commission. Commissioners . This is a hard one because this is, you see these as you come up masonic street. This is on the right side. It is a very Prominent Group of houses. We have seen they seem visually super important, and so it will be tricky because the kind of want more information to be able to substantiate the findings, but it seems to me, certainly as a little mini district, i believe. I think it will be eligible. I guess the question is, is it individually eligible. It is a lot more work that would be involved. Im not sure what the answer is but thank you for the work you have done to date. [laughter]. Commissioner pearlman . I am in the same place. I used to live up the hill from you and would drive up masonic every day, some very familiar with the houses. I think as an individual, it is already a restrict a historic resource, obviously. I think it really is related to the four seasons. It is four houses that are of note. If this was one house surrounded by other houses that were not of similar quality, would probably it probably would be an easier thing to say, it doesnt quite reach the level of land marking, but i think as a mini district, whatever we want to call it, it has a lot more power and is, a special because of the way masonic is wide and gets very narrow, it literally is almost directly in front of you as youre coming up masonic and going up into that neighborhood. So i would advocate i dont know how we do this, but if we could advocate putting it in the landmark program, but as including the other three houses , and again, i know this is a timing issue for you, that is not our issue. Your financial issue is not our issue. I am trying to be sensitive without saying, it doesnt make sense to me as an individual. It only makes sense to me as part of a group. Commissioner black . If you wouldnt mind coming up, i do have a question. What discussions have you had with the other Property Owners, presumably they could benefit or perhaps they dont all have their foundations done yet either and they could benefit from this. I have spoken with the other three homes and mentions that we were applying for this and that i would let them know. I would encourage them to do it. They are all in similar situations of needing to do work on their homes and not necessarily having the means to. I would say that you would be the ones who would benefit the most given that we have purchased most recently, and the ones that have been there for 30 years, their property the property taxes will be lower anyway, but they all seemed interested in open to it. That is what i was going to volunteer is that, you know, i would be happy to be a gobetween and tried to help leverage whatever we can do to get the others on board for this we stepped into big shoes. The previous owner was a host of many block parties and we have gates in the backyard that connect our the four homes. We do have a sense of community. I would be happy if we moved this forward to try and get them on board as well. I appreciate that. I had another thought about the research. For what the staff is requesting for the amount of research. It seems like the research would almost be the same for all four, since they were all built by the same guy at the same time. They all have similar architectural styles. In terms of additional work, it wouldnt be that much to go from one to four. I think it is between 15 and 30,000. Again. I appreciate that, again, it is a challenge because, you know, our commission is not about the Financial Issues that addressed anyone particular. Perhaps mrs. Mcmillan could come up. I have some questions of process so i wanted to comment on, you know, i personally would like to support Community Sponsor designations, and the amount of research desired versus the threshold of being able to say whether or not it is eligible, we always would be doing more research. As we know when we are dealing with properties that were done in the seventies and the 80s, we dont have enough information, thinking about the antique store , and these projects of having that information on file its always beneficial is always beneficial, but how much do we really need to do in order with a minimum threshold . Im wondering, if you do this through the association, this is a group of Amazing Community people. I think theres no question in my mind that it would be eligible as a whole individual district. So maybe you put aside the association and you just do it for architecture. Or events. I think a lot of it will draw on material that is already written. We can work with the applicant on developing how far to go in the research, which avenues to explore more closely then others i just think as outlined in the case report, it just needs expanded discussion enhancing the statements of significance. If there isnt additional information, then we can only get so far with that research, then we can recognize that. The two write ups that were included in the application may have all the information that is available. Be helpful to maybe due another round of review, just looking to see if theres anything else about him. I know he designed some other properties, but i think possibly , they are associated more with events or architecture , and i think we can pay closer attention to those other areas. Can i ask a question . Please. Is it possible to place this on the landmark list and pending further discussion of the other three Property Owners . Yeah. Most certainly. That is definitely part of our recommendation. You can obviously collect by placing it on the program, it will give priorities to our staff to work with the owner to refine the application and or do the outreach as necessary with the other Property Owners to make sure we bring these forward as a collective. I know we are not supposed to get involved in the finances of anyones particular property, but i would think this would be of benefit to all Property Owners. I concur with them and about supporting Community Sponsors. I think it is something we should sabean support of generally. The biggest question is the timing. Knowing we have to do some outreach with the neighbours to make sure that we get them on board and it will flush out any Additional Research. I think that was some of the question on the stats. I thank you have a good advocate. Specifically, im thinking about the triangle. How many individual landmarks are within the triangle process . It is all one district. That is why we are leaning towards the district. I support the concept of the four units. It is a special collection of structures. I would like to support this as proposed. I would like to see it move forward. Commissioner pearlman . We are in a time where our consciousness is such that we want to have cultural things and all of that. If you look at the landmarks of San Francisco from when they started, you know, the first 30 years of land marking was about the architecture. And that is what people think landmarks are. They come to San Francisco and they want to see the landmarks of the city. They want to see beautiful buildings. So i think as, you know, supporting this just on his architecture, i think it is incredibly valid. Again, it doesnt meet one of our priority areas, but here is a Community Sponsored it is part of our priorities. That part is. Absolutely. I was totally endorsing this. On the process, just help us understand. So obviously we want to get to some status by the application act next year. It is this year. It is only three months away. It is in nepal. This is the first year we have accepted concurrent applications for designation. Given the incompleteness of the application and incompleteness of the mills act application, we have encouraged the applicant to apply for next years mills act. This is coming up in a few months. Yeah. It is coming up in september. We need to close by september and give them a timeline of the designation. It could be pretty tight. In either case, we probably wouldnt move it. What would you like to do, commissioners . I will make a motion that we, again, this is a process question, that we put it on a landmark work program and along with the other requests and request staff work with the applicant to include the other three. Theres been some good stuff done here. There has been a lot of Research Done here. Someone has the capability of doing some work. I second. If there is nothing further, commissioners, there is a motion that has been seconded to direct staff to add this to the landmark work program along with the other three properties. On that motion. [roll call] so moved. That motion passes unanimously 5 0. Thank you. Thank you. We are adjourned. Pleted copi speaker car [gavel]. Chair ronen good morning, everyone. The meeting will come to order. Welcome to the july 11 special meeting of the rules committee. Seated to my right is rules Committee Member supervisor shaman walton, and to my right is supervisor mar. Our clerk today is victor young, and id also like to thank corwin and colea for sta