So i do not support this motion. I think we have to act with urgency. I think it is high time we have an oversight body for a department that has ever expanding budget. Ironically, it was the mayor who didnt support prop c because she said there wasnt enough oversight over the department. So how all of us are not supporting this department right now is absolutely beyond me. So i would encourage all of my colleagues to not support the motion to delay this to march and to act with the urgency that our constituents demand and deserve. President yee supervisor mandelman . Supervisor mandelman thank you, president yee. I want to echo thanks to supervisor haney for the leadership youve provided on a number of issues, and particularly on the sea wall Navigation Center. I think that was a courageous act and the leadership that you provided there is something i think everyone in city hall should be grateful for. I would be grateful for more time on this, this commission. And although again with great respect, i do disagree with one of the things that supervisor haney said about this commission. He said it is like commissions that exist throughout the city bureaucracy overseeing any number of departments. And this proposed commission is different in at least one very significant respect in my view, which is that every commission overseeing a department over which the mayor is ultimately going to be held accountable, has either an entirety all of its members made up of mayoral appointees or a majority. If you look at any of the commissions you named, from health, which is entire mayoral, to police which is 43 with the number of three folks pointed by the board of supervisors, but four people on that commission are appointed by the mayor. So the mayor has the ability to direct what is going on in departments that she is going to be held responsible for. I know who is accountable and responsible right now for what happens in the department of homelessness and Supportive Housing. Their names are jeff and london breed. I do not know and will not know who will be responsible for the activity that the department of homelessness and Supportive Housing if this Charter Amendment passes, because three people will be appointed by the mayor. And three people will be appointed by the board of supervisors and one person will be appointed by the controller to direct this department. I appreciate having a controller who exists above the fray, who mayor, and board of supervisor folks can turn to as an honest broker. The notion of 33 contest playing out at the homelessness and Supportive Housing commission where the controller is called upon to direct homelessness policy in this city strikes me as a profoundly bad idea. So i think that there may be a need for more sunshine and i think there were a number of issues that drove this proposal, some of which may be able to be solved without a commission, some not. But i believe that we need more time on this and i think giving this until march makes a great deal of sense. President yee supervisor haney. Supervisor haney thank you, president yee, and thank you for your comments and your leadership. I first want to respond to that now that its being brought up. I appreciate your defense of the mayor and her power, but i think there needs to be important shared responsibility here in terms of our role. As you heard particularly with the emails that we get, the responses that we get from our constituents. You also understand were also accountable to addressing homelessness. And for us to have that shared responsibility along with, i think, the greater commitment to accountability, the power of the audit that the controller has, i think that this balance which is very similar to the balance that was put in the proxy Oversight Committee is a more effective balance for checks and balances. I think there is a lot of concerns about some of our current commissions, because if you have a director that works for the mayor and commission that oversees that director, that puts a lot of power in the hands of one person. So i do think we have shared accountability here. I do wish i will say that some of these concerns coming up today were brought to me earlier. We actually changed to have the 7th appointment be from the controller because of feedback from the mayor and took that forward. And nobody said that was the red line for them weeks ago when we had the power to amend it. So i do want to be clear that we have had months now of working on this for the Mayors Office, for working on this for the department of homelessness, taking amendments, and ive unfortunately not received these kind of responses which we could have addressed before until today. So i appreciate the comment that we need more time, but i would have liked to know this was your bright red line and you would rather have a stronger Mayoral Commission, a majority Mayoral Commission and that is what you would have preferred to have your support. As far as the motion for march, i do want us to be able to develop consensus here and i think its important were united. I also believe that is ready to go for november and would prefer it goes for november, but i want to hear from all of you, and obviously, if we dont have six votes for november, then we can continue to Work Together and ill be committed to bringing it back next year if thats the direction we go. President yee supervisor walton. Supervisor walton thank you, president yee. Getting involved in public service, i understand that we have to deal with several bureaucracies as we try to get the work done. And all of my experience in working in leadership and working with the city, i have never seen people excited for some reason about addressing issues right away. There is always people who feel we need more time. And that we should be given more time. And i am grappling with the more time thought process and the word crisis, because i know that they dont belong together. When we have a crisis, we have to do everything that we can to address that in its immediacy as much as possible. And for us to effect change and do the things we need to, were going to be required to not ask for time, but ask for strategies and solutions to some very hard issues that we all grapple with on a daily basis. I agree with you, president yee, because homelessness is a big issue for all of us in San Francisco. And i know most of us list it as one of our top two priorities if not our number one. And it is not about any particular district versus another district, but i hope that it is something to be said that the districts that have the biggest populations of unhoused individuals are the very same people who are really fighting for this commission. I hope its not lost on everyone that, yes, were fighting for this commission, but we also provide a lot of the services to address unhoused individuals needs here in San Francisco, whether talking about Navigation Centers, whether were talking about shelters, and thats because of all of our collective work. Working together to address the issues that exist. But it is a very real reality that certain areas of the city are actually having to deal with more phone calls, more emails, more constituent complaints that are very real. Some of us drive by this on our way to city hall every single day. Weve made calls. Weve had people connected to services and then the same situation continues to occur over and over and over. And so i just want to really re emphasize we are working hard to address homelessness and we have to have a sense of urgency. Sometimes we cant give more time. Sometimes people have to work. Ive never had a job where i didnt have to work hard at it and there are a lot of people working hard to do their job, im not saying theyre not, im saying this will help us all work harder, work faster, to address a major crisis in San Francisco. Supervisor mandelman, i definitely just want to say in terms of your response about the makeup of the commission and appointments, the motion on the table right now does not address your concern. Theyre not one and the same, so again, i hope that you support the commission because this is something that we see as important and we see as something that will help us immediately address a crisis here in the city. President yee supervisor brown. Supervisor brown thank you. I just want to thank supervisor haney, because youve done a lot of work on this. And its not easy. I know that. And supervisor ronen, i hear your frustration, and ive been there. I think, you know, rattled the chains together on a lot of the issues. And same with supervisor walton. These emails that you get, i get every day, too. You have to remember that im right by the civic centre in mid market which is actually being focused for, you know, for actually removing the homeless and a lot of times what were doing i know supervisor mandelman and i have talked about it, we just push them from one area to another. And its frustrating. When we were doing the vehicle Navigation Center, we had a pushback. We were told that there wasnt that many People Living in cars. It took seven months to get it through, which seemed like a long time for me even though we were changing police codes, but also i just felt like we did not get the we did not get the respect a lot of times from the department. And i felt that. And i think we all felt that. I do appreciate mayor breed giving us that funding even though we were struggling with the department. I feel that right now, for me, where is our oversight, our proxy Oversight Committee . That was something that was legislated and should be being formed right now, too. But i also want to make sure if were going to do this and have a commission because it is a crisis, i want to make sure we do it right. And i know, president yee, you had mentioned that the advocates were agreeing on pushing this to march. I, for me right now, i would probably like to see us have a little more time to make sure this is right. But i also want to see this Department Step up and especially for the supervisors that have the most homeless in their district. They have to be bold and step up. And also we have to be bold. Ive been trying to get a Navigation Center in my district and it seems like every site i go to, its not the right site. So i really feel that we need to get it right. And i support if advocates support to wait until march and let people and lets give them a countdown. I feel like if we give them a countdown and they say theyre going to do it, lets hold everyone accountable. But i thank everyone for your hard work. This isnt easy. And ill be supportive as we go forward, thank you. President yee so, were recycling names. I want to give you a last chance, but can you make it brief, because weve been on this i know its important, dont get me wrong. Supervisor ronen no, i understand. Just that i appreciate all your comments, supervisor brown, and just that issue alone. The fact that you and supervisor peskin have been begging the departments to open up a Navigation Center, not one, not two, not three, not four, not five, but so many different sites in your district. The fact that the Navigation Center at 1515 south van ness, that i was successful in opening that they told me no until i went directly to mayor lee myself. That is all proof that we need oversight. We have civilian oversight commissions for every Single Department in the city practically. Why wouldnt we have one for a department that has frustrated beyond measure and i do want to back up and say, its not that i dont appreciate the work of the department and dont understand how hard it is, because its some of the hardest work out there, so this isnt to say that theyre not trying or theyre not working their tails off on a daily basis, but there are times where all of us have disagreed in very, very substantial ways with the leadership of that department. And why we wouldnt have an Oversight Department an oversight body made up of citizens to bring those disagreements to the public, to debate them out, to get answers that are transparent for our constituents about why they refuse to do one thing or another, this isnt rocket science. This is a commission. Its something we have over every department. Why do we have to wait and wait and wait when there is a raging crisis happening in our streets . When we know these commissions work over other departments . And when we got the point in time count showing a 30 increase in homelessness . Despite the spending that weve increased every single year. Despite the creation of a brand new department to supposedly fix the problem. Why do matt haney and i have to create a solution to a broken Mental Health and Substance Use system because the department itself have ignored the problem for years . Were supposed to be legislators. Were not supposed to be physically building Navigation Centers and counting how many tents there are. Thats supposed to be the departments work when supervisor mandelman said i know who is responsible for this problem, its jeff cozin ski and mayor breed. That wasnt the case in district 9. I had to walk the streets and fix the problem with the 260 tents. And anyone will tell you thats what i had to do to get those done. Its not supposed to be our work, but because the department is failing, our constituents come to us and ask for answers and im not willing to tell them, sorry, i got no answers for you, there is no solutions, the people responsible for it arent doing what they should be doing. Thats not good enough for me. And we need this oversight body now. President yee roll call, please. On the motion to amend the date to march 3. Fewer aye. Haney no. Mandelman aye. Mar no. Peskin aye. Ronen no. Safai aye. Stefani aye. Walton no. Yee aye. Brown aye. There are seven ayes and four nos with supervisor haney, mar, ronen and walton in the dissent. President yee thank you. Again, i want to thank everybody for this discussion and i want to say publicly, if its not clear, that if nothing moves or very little moves in the next few months, then i am committed to supporting a commission for the march election. So, colleagues, right now, because we made this motion, we need to make a second motion which is to refer this item to the committee. So id like to make a motion. Is there a second . Supervisor fewer . Can i take this same house, same call . Roll call. President yee thats right, roll call. On the motion to send item 22 to committee as amended, fewer aye. Haney aye. Mandelman aye. Mar aye. Peskin aye. Ronen aye. Safai aye. Stefani aye. Walton aye. Yee aye. Brown aye. There are 11 ayes. President yee motion passes. Again, thank you, everybody. Madame clerk, lets go to our next item, i believe number 23. Item 23 is a Charter Amendment for draft to change the name of the aging and Adult Services commission to the disability and aging commission to establish qualifications for three of the seats to change the name of aging and Adult Services to department of disability. To change the name of the living fund to the disability and aging fund at an election to be held on november 5, 2019. President yee supervisor peskin . Supervisor peskin as i discussed earlier, im sorry for being argumentative, mr. President , but it is not uncommon for departments to use different names and their official names in the code or in the charter, for instance, code says its the department of public works, but Rachel Gordon rebanded it public works. The code says its the department of the environment, but all of their letterhead says sf environment. The Human Services agency, i dont think exists anywhere in the code. Couldnt we just tell the department they can change their name and put it on their letterhead and not going to the ballot . Just asking. President yee so this is a question. And besides changing the name of the department, changing the name to the commission and changing the qualification for certain positions to commission, when i asked the City Attorneys Office what do we need to do . And basically the answer was to, you need to bring it to the voters to change the wording in the charter. Supervisor i mean deputy City Attorney givner . Jon givner. Thats right. Supervisor peskin is correct that some departments have informally changed their names in how they present themselves to the public. To formally and legally change the name of a department that is created in the charter, requires a Charter Amendment. And certainly to change the qualifications for any seats on the commission requires amendment to the charter. President yee and this was vetted with people from the community, in particular, the Disability Community where they really felt it was important for them to have this formally be part of the name, because of the services that the department provides. Thats why i supported to move it forward to have the voters vote on this and to change the name so that it reflects the services that actually provide. I dont think its going to be controversial from the communitys point of view. Okay. So do we need roll call or can we take same house, same call . Same house, same call. With no objection, then this mr. President , supervisor haney is not in the house. President yee okay, roll call, please. On item 23, supervisor fewer aye. Haney absent. Mandelman aye. Mar aye. Peskin aye. Ronen aye. Safai aye. Stefani aye. Walton aye. Yee aye. Brown aye. There are 10 ayes. President yee okay. This chart amendment is submitted unanimously. Next item, please. Next item is item 24, ordinance to amend the administrative code to amend the program fund to lower rent in Housing Developments occupied by lowincome senior citizens. President yee same house same call . Without objection, this ordinance is finally pa