Minutes . All those in favor . Aye. Opposed . The motion carries. The next item is general Public Comment. I have a few cards here. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, commissioners today, i want to recap, you know , when i come over here during general Public Comment, sometimes i reveal to you all a few things and then when i sit down, and, you know, i cannot be here forever, because i have other things to do, i leave. And other people come and they talk about your interns and this and that, and we the public, and the constituents and taxpayers of the bayview Hunters Point area, we are not fully cognizant of what is happening with large amounts of money, okay . So one of the commissioners, i will not name him, he did say the last time about the sewer system Improvement Project. Is started with a 6 billiondollar figure, and im telling you that at the rate things are happening, its going to be like 15 billion, i repeat , 15 billion. With what is happening in the economy, the tariffs, and so on and so forth. Now, none of our commissioners, i know two commissioners over there went to check on this and something else. And then when somebody was giving a presentation here, she said, you know, they are going to go down 30 feet, and then it commissioners said no, we were told that we are going to go to bed rock, and so on and so forth so this mickey mouse must stop. This mickey mouse with the millennium building, it is sinking 22 inches and tilting 1e salesforce building. We must be aware of such facts. Now we have people in the San FranciscoPublic Utilities commission who know nothing about workforce. Let the workforce be done by the unions, thats where it belongs. Ive said, in very simple terms, because i know about workforce a lot, that we want career jobs, we dont want this mickey mouse with some interns and we want to talk about the sewer system Improvement Project and bring the interns from the water system Improvement Project. Lasting they had interns over here, and they heard to speak and they said wow, is this what is happening with the as if you see . And they left. Commissioners . We need to do our homework. We need to have our heart in the right place. Thank you very much. Thank you. Can i comment through the chair . Please. Thank you for your words because the Labor Movement is the only independent organization of different trades in america that actually fights for workers. For you to acknowledge that, i thank you. Thank you, commissioner. I have another Public Comment card from and clark. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Thank you very much for having me. I am with the Commonwealth Club of california. You have an announcement, i think it is very strange to have this announcement on november 10 th, but these announcements have to go in early. So we got this done so that we could get it to you so it can go into the magazine and the programs at the Commonwealth Clubs. November 10th is city college of San Francisco engineering, architecture, technology and the environment, and we gave you a list of the kinds of things that we are doing at city college. It is really quite wonderful. You will see that theres a lot going on in terms of the environment and a lot of help that we have had all of these years from s. F. You see. We really want to thank you for all of your help and support. And finally, i really need i mean this has been a wonderful alliance between San Francisco and city college. Finally, i want you to know i was a volunteer leader for camp may there for the last week. And we won the bingo problem. We had the highest bingo. Congratulations. Thank you. It was hot up there, we had a wonderful time, and as always, camp mather was really fun and really good. We had an awful lot of little kids this year. It was quite amazing how many little kids and families that were there. We had a couple people who came, and we also met his fatherinlaw in the line for dinner. If you get a chance to go to camp mather, come because it is a very special place. Again, we look forward to the program on november 10th, and i will remind you of that, of the city college of San Franciscos engineering, architecture, technology and Environment Program that we will have on november 10th. Thanks a lot. It will be at the Commonwealth Club. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for all of your good work on behalf of camp mather. We really appreciate it. I have another Public Comment card. Good afternoon, peter. Good afternoon. Im with the river trust. As i have mentioned before, we have had some concerns about the water supply assessments and the disconnect between sfpuc and the Planning Commission. It sounds like some progress is being made in communications, which is a good thing. I will share a letter that we submitted on the flower mart project from the Planning Commission just to give you a sense of some of our issues. Our concerns did attract attention of the Mayors Office and we appreciated people pulling together a small meeting last week. We appreciated others participating. It was a constructive meeting. We hope it was the beginning of an ongoing dialogue. We think there are a lot of things we could do working together to meet the states goals of ensuring reliable water supply and restoring the ecosystem. There are a lot of factors that influence water supply and longerterm outcomes. For example, demand, and sa pointed out before, there was quite a difference between projected demand for 2018 and actual demand of the 31 there was a 30 1 difference. If we can get better at demand projections for the future, that should impact our drought planning scenario. Water rights and new supplies, we talked about it a number of times here. There are flow requirements from the state board and the sfpuc. If it is based on the fourth agreement, it is 51. 7 , if it is based on a share of use, it would be 20 , that would be a big difference. The board has not determined how they are going to address that so far. The level of rationing, we saw 30 decline in demand between 2006 and 2016. That was quite remarkable, and it shows we can accomplish a lot by storage. Maybe their opportunities, especially additional groundwater storage, maybe in the Central Valley partnering with the irrigation districts to capture extra water on what years and sharing some of that, similar to the water bank on pedro. And then obviously drought planning, which is something that has come up a lot. We are hoping that weekend have ongoing dialogue, engaging stakeholders, and see if we can Work Together to come up with a solution that meets everyones needs. Thank you very much. Thank you. Any other general comments at this time . Hearing none, next item, please. Item five is communications. So you have before you communications. Are there any questions or comments on anything in the Communications Packet . Any general comments . Public comments on communications . Hearing none, next item. Item six is report of the general manager. Good afternoon, commissioners the first item i would like to bring up Michael Carlin to talk about they delta Water Quality control plan update. Actually, we will have steve do the presentation, but i can do it, as well. I am here today. Good to see you. It has been a while. I have been on vacation at camp mather. A big bingo week i understand before you start, do you want to share i mean you can have steve give the presentation, but i want you to share the meeting that you had with the mayor and peter and what the outcomes were , and the commitments that were made. We did have a meeting in the Mayors Office. The mayors chief of staff did convene a meeting with the senior visor on the environment. In attendance were several people from the river trust and river strategies and gatekeeper. The purpose of the meeting was to allow the stakeholders to present what they think needs to be addressed by the p. U. C. , and in many cases, we agree with them because there are things that we are going to do, or are doing that are ongoing such as, we are looking at diversifying the water supply. We have are many questions discussions about that. We are working on those projects they are in our budget and we will be presenting those to you as well as talking to some of the stakeholders. Some of those projects involve others, as mentioned, such as the modesto irrigation districts , but we havent reached a point where we actually have project proposals to put on the table with them. We continue to work on those. We continue to work Going Forward on our demand projections and our draft scenarios. Next year we have to deal with the urban Water Management plan. In that plan we have to show the projections of what we think our water supply needs will be and how we will meet those needs, and how we will basically whether a drought. We have eight drought protection production cycle of eight and a half years. That is consistent with where the state is going. Right now they are at five years and if we look at what they are trying to project to do in the California Water plan, they may be asking for longer drought scenarios based on climate change. The other thing that we have been working on, and this is the process of launching an agreement, and launching an agreement just as the Water Quality with a full plan. And the voluntary agreements that we have proposed, we stated publicly a number of different flow and nonflow measures. And what i mean by nonflow measures as habitat improvements on the river for the fish that were targeted for enhancement. As we worked work through that process with the state, and i will steal all your thunder, steve, sorry. We are working with the state team and the state team consists of if i can go to the slides will quickly, that would be helpful. So this is just a depiction of the rivers and their tributaries of course, were talking about the three tributaries on the lower San Joaquin River. These are the three River Systems that were covered by the plans. And no other River Systems are covered by the plan that was adopted on december 12, 2019. But the agreement process is represented by many of the tributaries that are depicted here, including many of those on the sacramento side. You have to keep that in mind as we go through this that while the plan affects three tributaries, the voluntary agreement process is affecting much more than that. So when i talk about the team, what i mean by the state team as a secretary for the california Natural Resources agency, the secretary of the california Environment Protection agency, the state water board and their staff, the department of water resources, in the department of fish and wildlife. So these are the principal players that we have been dealing with in negotiating with over the past several months. They are trying to process as one state, which we appreciate because otherwise we get fragments of discussions and direction from the state. There are a number of different work groups that have been formed. I apologize if some of these things are cryptic. Assets to outcomes means basically how do you use the flow and nonflow measures to have a projection of an outcome for a fishery . Enhancement of the fishery, doubling of the population, those kinds of things that are actually necessary to have a measurable outcome, and we are working on what those are as far as biological and environment of targets. It is not like were just going to put water down the river, but there is a target we are trying to hitch. Theres also a government science and Adaptive Management group. Theyre trying to promote the decisionmaking process. For the river, many of the flows and nonflow measures are also part of a fork process that are Energy Regulatory commission process and the relicensing of the dam. This is where the fourth agreement comes in. Our assets, our flexibility is not there is much people would like to think. For example, on the sacramento side, theyre talking about, when did they want to have flow show up on the Sacramento River . They have much more discretion because they can have the water show up in june, they can have the water show up in may, we are looking at targeting mid march and april for flood cleaning and outmigration flow probably in late april to may, to june. Part of this also is a discussion has a state water contractors. I have talked to you about putting a. V. On diversions. This will be money that they would collect and part of the government science and the documentary program would be to distribute those fees and how they are allocated and spent. Sorry, who would issue this . And he would do it . If you want to look at it this way, the question is whether or not we participate in that or not and that has to be determined because our assets are not that flexible and we are also self funding all the improvements on the river right now. Who would determine how this would be spent . That is part of the hold government structure. When i talked about what i showed you earlier, it is the intro to the tributaries and san joaquin. The discussions are now dominating on the sacramento side. That is where 80 of the water goes into. The exporters, the Central Valley project and the state Water Project are heavily invested in that system. That is where most of the water is and that is where most of their assets are located. It is part of the conversation of what the government structure could and should look like. Would that be part of the vsa, part of the plan . It could be. This talks about whether there is an overall umbrella agreement amongst all the parties. That is nothing else we could look at. A number of different policy issues, the first one is a Critical Path one. Whether the plan should be amended and related to the viability of native fishes. Right now we have a narrative objective and a near any numerical objective. Were looking at whether we have a narrative objective and then use a plan of limitation to include the numerical target or the voluntary agreement. That is something we want to talk to parties about. We dont want to have if we agree with the state team, we dont want to have the state water board as part of the team to come back and say, we want more from you, we want to settle all at once and all the parties are approaching it that way. Enforcing commitments by the state water board, and this is where im not a lawyer, and i cant even quote the government code section. Basically that would be placed into the plan and would allow the state water board, under that government code section, to take enforcement code action to any nonperforming party. I think thats really important to have that. And theres another big question that comes up and that is what happens at the end of 15 years . We are already kind of discussing how, you know, if you think about the lifecycle of the salmon, the lifecycle of the salmon is about three years. And a 15 year period you might have five year classes and, you know, what happens if it is hard to see a trend, you know, so we are already talking about if things are performing well, if we are meeting our targets, and doing some of the things we would do, there could be an Automatic Extension of the agreement. Question. Sure. So the state is basically looking at the biggest rivers. Yeah, the two biggest rivers. There are numerous tributaries. So the tributaries in your agreement, you all are saying, we want to include the others. Correct. So with the state saying you dont fulfil your obligations they all have their own separate agreement and then there might be a pour over agreement of how the parties are going to Work Together. And then some parties, lets say theres tributary exit doesnt have an agreement, the plan would actually subject them to the elements of the plan that, you know, we are trying to get away from unimpaired flow to get into functional flow. Theyd be subject to the unimpaired flow appreciation that we could put in place. If your party is looking at that as an option, you want to come up with a plan that makes sense. You mentioned platinum advises at the very beginning. Who did they represent . Im not exactly sure. I just noticed that was on the card. He was an individual representing himself . Yeah. I was just trying to associate who was with what. I think he is just on his own capacity. Okay. Platinum advisors i would like to know who is in the room. If he is in there on his own, thats fine. If he is there with Platinum Advisors then i will refer that back to you thank you. Going back to the slides once again, i already mentioned this. Some of our issues are the state team in the majority of the participants are focused on the Sacramento River side. Thats where 80 of the water comes from. I think one of the things that we have is a very structured and well thought out and detailed voluntary agreement that we have put together. Some of the other agreements are still fuzzy. They need to get a little bit more clarity with how they are participating. We are the only tributary that is involved in the voluntary agreement on the San Joaquin River side. There are ongoing discussions with those entities and hopefully we can bring them to the table because it would be nice to have a pac