Transcripts For SFGTV Government Access Programming 20240714

SFGTV Government Access Programming July 14, 2024

I agree with what my fellow commissioners have said. I think that during the time im here the staffs work has given me no doubt that if given discretiona discretionary power, you would [ indiscernible ] from anything the commission intended. I think for the investigation unit, the two driving principles have always been the public trust and transparency. So as long as it is guided by those two, whatever actions you take are then the public will understand. And at the same time, when you look at the enforcement efforts, its largely serving to deter future ill activities. Sometimes when people look at these cases that have gone on for five, six, ten years and with nothing happening, it doesnt give the public much trust. So i think that it is really important to look at the cases you take. And the second thing is there are other cases that come to you that may not fit into the clearly defined areas that we would like to support. Maybe those are innocent cases that may expose some deficiencies that we should look at so that we can look at policies to close the loopholes. So they may not fit into the really very neat boxes for intent or what have you. But those are the things that i trust you would bring to us that, hey, this could be an innocent thing like a font in an internet thing that you know its something that we need to really look at for future policy discussions. So i do think that as long as you continue to operate under those principles and as long as we whatever we do, we make sure that theres transparency, theres public trust, then i think that we really support your efforts. Because with the limited resources and with the cases coming through, were going to be we just dont want to be stuck with five years from now looking at these cases, what happened to this case . Its still on the docket. That doesnt look good. So i would suggest if we could not deal with it, dont even bother to put it up there because its going to track down your data. When the public looks at the data and say why is the commission taking three years to open the file . People dont have much trust in us that way. So i do support the efforts, and i think that as the Commission Said nothing thats come before this commission has given me doubt that you will not do the diligent review of all the cases. So i would echo commissioner lee and commissioner smiths thoughts. From a fixed penalty process, i think it would be wonderful if there would be the possibility that late filings, for example, theres a time stamp. Could it become almost like a parking ticket. You get the parking ticket. You can go to court and fight it, but we could send a letter and then and say that the fine needs to be paid by x date so that it wont require a lot of investigation, for example. And then my second question, and i think this would become part of the ask to you to explore as part of the expanding the fixed penalty program and getting input from stakeholders and the public, but the f. P. P. C. Uses warning letters and whether or not this is something the commission could explore. I know we have a confidentiality provision, so we would have to work closely with deputy City Attorney to understand what the limitations are around the disclosure of the investigative details. But i would like to ask you and your team to come forward with some recommendations with regard to the use of warning letters at the next meeting or the next time we take this up. I would be glad to and thank you. Is there more guidance that you would need from us on the factor factors that youve listed on page 7 or on the types of cases youve listed out, at least of the current case load that you have in figure 2 . I mean, for me i think its those kinds of cases that go to the integrity of our system. So commissioner smith mentioned font size. You know, font size, it could be something extremely problematic, but incompatible activities like nepotism or illegal coordination between a candidate and an independent Expenditure Committee or using the position elected position or a city office for personal gain. Those types of investigations and matters really go to what commissioner lee was talking about as like the trust in the institution. So for me those categories, how severe those violations are, the timing of it, and also just the probabilities, like can this be proven would all be weighed in the calculus of applying your discretion, but for me those are the ones at the top of my head are the more critical ones. I appreciate the feedback. How you might weigh the severity and the impact. I think at this time we may not need Additional Guidance on those. I would just remind you under the regulations, any time staff dismisses or closes dismisses a complaint or closes an investigation, we have to provide you a monthly summary detailing what complaints we closed sorry, what complaints we dismissed and why and detailing what complaints we closed and why. So on the basis of those summaries, if at any point you discover that we have a disagreement about how to apply our discretion, then we can have further conversation to clarify what you would prefer us to do. Ill ask my fellow commissioners if there are any other types of cases that come to mind that wed like to highlight or other factors i guess would be the better way to approach it to focus on. I dont know if you have a presentation on whistleblower because thats an area i want to know how the commission and the staff has jurisdiction over. Are you talking about retaliation against whistleblowers . Yes. You would like a presentation on that . Yes. Because that seems to be an area that the general public are saying that day you need to protect the whistleblower, but whos going to protect them and how. Sure. Yeah. A presentation about the jurisdiction we have and what an investigation might look like how to prove up that case. Representatives to come and talk about their experience with working with the whistleblower employees. Pardon me, repeat that. I know we had asked for d. H. R. To come to present on the investigation of the secondary employme employment. That would be next month. Im not recalling anything specifically on whistleblowers. I think the so we could ask mr. Pierce to come back and do just an overview of the whistleblower cases that the Ethics Commission has jurisdiction over and how those could be pursued. As i think about case prioritization factors, i dont know if you want to include this in there or if its already rolled into one of them that you have already. But i think one of the things to consider and i think that you already do is whether or not another city agency has conducted an investigation. So, for example, some cases have already been investigated by the department of Human Resources or the City Attorney and or the district attorney. So after one, two, or three or multiple agencies have already investigated a matter, is it i would ask that you and your team use your discretion to say do we really need to go through and do it a fourth time or could we reasonably rely on the findings of these multiple investigations from different city agencies. Yeah, sure, thank you. This is an important discussion to have and the start of an important dialog. I would ask you to come back at the next meeting or the october meeting with a proposal or a framework around the fixed penalties and the plan on how to engage the public. I would like to participate in those public interested persons meetings as to hear what stakeholders and particularly the regulated community have to say about the reasonableness and the rational basis for our penalties. I think that what would be helpful for me, and i hope for my fellow commissioners, would be to actually have some data. You alluded to the size of the campaigns that are run here in San Francisco. I think the mayor has raised here multiple millions. So i think if we can have a little perspective around how much money is being spent in supervisorial campaigns, the mayoral campaigns and the penalties that are being asked. What is 1 , what is that worth, i think that could be very helpful for us. Certainly. Thank you. Public comment on agenda item number 10 . Well, im going to call a tenminute recess. Weve been going at it for two hours. I would like e okay. The Ethics Commission is back in session. So were going to go to agenda item number 11, discussion and possible action on monthly staff policy report, including the policy prioritization plan. Mr. Ford. Thank you, chair, commissioners. Im pat ford, senior policy analyst. For the benefit of our newest commissioner, this is the monthly report that i bring to the commission and about once a quarter in addition it contains the policy prioritization plan. Its a twopart thing and youll see that roughly four times a year. Well see the updates on the policy prioritization plan, which are the bigticket items, usually legislation, Program Review type things. But the Monthly Update also contains information about other kinds of projects. If you look at page 3, i included a pie chart that gives a rough breakdown of what is done. Typically its two people, but for now its one. You can see that policy projects are about a third of where the bandwidth is devoted, otherwise, there isnt general device to staff and members of the regulated community, also other departments about the meaning of our laws and Program Support to other members on staff about administering our programs, as well as legislative affairs and Media Affairs making up smaller slices of the pie. This monthly report gives updates on all kinds of items that fall in those bigger slices. Generally theyre the bigger ones, whether theyre taking up a particularly larger amount of time or noteworthy things i think you should be aware of. Also the policy prioritization plan, that is basically staffs proposed way of proceeding for the next quarter, which projects to move forward with, and those are numbered. Then later on theres kind of a bucket of other projects that are not currently underway but could be at a future time. So the quarterly discussion of the plan is basically to ratify or change staffs proposal was to which projects to do on an ongoing basis, but then also to discuss the bucket, so either add projects that youre interested in. The commission could remove projects that it doesnt foresee moving forward with, and to generally discuss the merits of them, maybe to plan which one to do next, just to have an openended discussion. Theres not really a particular deliverable or outcome that needs to happen. Its openended. With that ill turn to the updates. Looking at the policies that were on the last quarters policy prioritization plan. The first one is the review of the citys Public Financing system. This was a very largescale Program Review and was conducted in two phases. The first phase is complete. The regulations and ordinance that came from that phase were passed and implemented and done. With the second phase theres still one component that is ongoing which is the ordinance which the Commission Approved in may and which is pending at the board. The update for you is that we did not get that ordinance called at a Committee Hearing before the board went on its august recess. We were really hoping that we would because the goal is to have that ordinance be in effect for the 2020 elections. Given the nature of the process with multiple readings hearing at committee and the full board and having to go to the Mayors Office and a 30day lag time between being approved and operative and the implementation efforts need to happen on our end, there is some time that needs to be set aside. So were really trying to get this thing moving and approved so we can do everything we need to do to have 2020 be under the new regime. Th that being said were looking at getting the hearing as soon as possible. Supervisor mar is the chair of the committee that this ordinance is in control of. So were hoping that he will call it at the as soon as possible time. When is the board back from the summer recess . This is the first week of september. So after labour day . Yes. Right after. I believe nothing out of the ordinary happens september 5th should be the first meeting of that committee. I will be in touch with their office and try and get that on the agenda for that meeting. Otherwise, ive been doing outreach to other members of the board, trying to kind of front load the legislative work so that were not surprised when this does get called at committee that there may be members of the board and trying to get those on the table so we can plan. If any amendments are made on the boards side it has to come back to the commission adding extra time. Can you refresh us on the process, how many times does it have to be heard by committee before it goes to the full board. How many times does it have to be heard by the full board, what are the routes in terms of amendment and timing. At committee it only needs to be heard once. The committee can recommend it to the full board or pass it on with a positive recommendation with just one consideration of it. But when it gets to the board, there need to be two readings. My experience has been, maybe my colleague can chime in, in the First Reading they would engage in the more substantive discussion. The second reading is just called. Whatever they did the first time theyll do it again. At least with ordinances like this. With bigger and more controversial ones i cant speak to. Thats been my experience with ethics legislation. Then from that point on it needs approval and then after that it becomes operative. Piecing together all those different parts, youre looking at a monthlong process in having it called at committee, the discretion of the chair of the committee, having it called at the board, the president , having it on the agenda. Theres wiggle room. Theres a lot of contact that needs to happen and thats definitely something im engaged in very heavily. To your point about meeting with legislative aides, it was different supervisors in advance of this being called either at committee or to the full board and addressing any proposed amendments if the board amends the ordinance, it needs to be approved by a super majority, is that right, and then it would come back to us . Right. So the commission will approve or must approve a version of the ordinance before the board does. So if the board amends it, the commission would need to consider it again, approve it again, and the board would need to pass the version that the Commission Approved. So im hoping that we dont have that we dont have any amendments. Yeah, through that process, but im not sure that that will be the case. Its entirely likely that there would be an amendment. So we will have to see. Its hard to say at this point. Other than that, i dont have a lot of details really on that project. When its outside of our process, we have a lot less control over it. But there is an alternative with putting it on the ballot directly. It wouldnt be for this november, but there is an election in march of 2020 and that we could act to put it on the ballot if theres no movement hypothetically at the board of supervisors that we could act to put it directly to the voters . Yeah, thats always an option legislatively to the commission. They do the option to put it directly on the ballot. I have not explored that for a couple of reasons. One is that it does doesnt meet the implementation timeline that were shooting for. I think even if it were approved on the march ballot, you would have to wait for the results to be certified, and only then can we in earnest start our implementation. Were really hoping that february will be the time that we can have this up and going. Thats what were shooting for. The reason for that is in february candidates can start submitting applications to qualify for the program. In a Perfect World we would have the new regime in place when that application period starts. Thats one reason. The other is that we do have a sponsor. The sponsor appears enthusiastic about the legislation. Mr. Wright in the Supervisors Office has been talking to other Supervisors Offices. So there does seem to be movement. Its not as though we cant get anyone to carry this over at the board. So i think at this point thiss definitely still a lot that can be done there. Thats why also i havent looked at the ballot option. I think you raised a good point about having it be implemented territory november 2020 election. I think six of the 11 supervisors are up for reelection. Thats correct. All the oddnumbered districts. So if they would they could benefit from participating in the program about higher amounts and different thresholds. Maybe that would help speed up the process. Absolutely. There are a lot of benefits to incumbents and challengers of this new regime. It would reduce their feed to fu fundraise and spend their time doing that. So at the next months meeting if you could report back on whether or not its been heard at committee, that would be great. We are here to do everything we can to assist to make sure that we can get the wheels of government to turn. I will let you know. It may be helpful at some point to have you as chair be active in the process. At this point i dont think so, but its possible in the future. Im happy to do that. Okay. I will keep in touch on that. So the second project in the policy portfolio is the set of regulations that the Commission Approved in may. So at this point those are operative and they became operative after two months. Weve implemented them. Theyre on the website. Weve updated our materials. So at this point really policys role on this is really like any other law, just to help other staff administer it to answer any questions that come up. I dont really consider this to need any kind of policy attention in the strict meaning of policy, as a policy project. So you will see that this does not appear on the policy prioritization plan later on. Finally the efiling project for the form 700. So again, this is to have all employees file the form 700 electronically rather than just board and commission members, elected officials, and department heads, which is the current arrangement. So at this point, this is a big officewide effort. My part of this is only one piece of the pie. Im going to be focusing mostly on the bargaining unit negotiations that have to happen and also with the regulation aspect of writing the regulation

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