For those people that might need it, just want to clarify when you say this is not shelters with Homeless Population or people might just slip in, right . I want to reframe your question to make sure i understand. The question is, if we open a shelter, will it also include members of mr. Madrid no. My question was, i just want to make sure that when the shelter is open, or opened up, its not homeless shelters. Its just specifically for those people that need to be in there, right . When a shelter is opened in San Francisco, our intention is to serve the needs of the individuals that are coming to the shelter. We recognize that some individuals may have particular needs. There are many Resources Available for individuals who may already be homeless. They may already go and use or go to the locations where theyre already familiar, but they may come to any shelter in the city, if they need assistance. Mr. Madrid the reason i ask is that as you mentioned before, those places are accessible, but we had a meeting a couple of months ago that most shelters are not accessible. Just wondering information on that and possibly recheck your plan. And the second question is that for your outreach, it has the ability and i havent got any notices that i can sign up for this resources that you were informing us. How do you reach out to those people who might or might not know . I didnt mean to interrupt. I was just going to say in answer to that question, which is an important one, it is again our great dem colleagues that do our alert systems. Very important first step that all people in San Francisco can do. And if you feel like youre overmessaged, you can sign up just for your zip code. That is an important first step. Mr. Madrid i didnt get any information. Thats what i was saying. So if you dont know about it, how do you know what you dont know . The second, there are barriers to getting into the pg e medically dependent program. Many people dont even know about it. Their providers may not know about it. It is an optin program, so its another way which we want the message to get out, including important forums like this, that these are available. The third reason and the reason i sort of stepped in, we have found in investigating the empower database that people dont know theyre in it. It is pulled from their medicare medical records. Its tightly controlled by the federal government. Including whether they think its a significant enough emergency to release it, because it is hippa level information. So when we had the geary fire and we were worried about the power shutdown in that neighborhood and how long it would go on, we were told by the federal government that was not a significant or long enough disaster for us to get those names. And i believe that was true. And it was a reasonable control. I mention that because, if youre in the empower database, its because you have a medically qualifying need and youre on medicare. It does not, however, include peoples phone numbers. So we will and are creating a robust approach to contacting people who do not know their name may be asked for by the city in an extreme emergency. So you cant actually ask to be in the empower database. Mr. Madrid thank you. I hope that answers your question. Mr. Madrid it does. Thank you. Ms. Sassouni hi. Ill try to keep this brief. Just a few things. I just received an alert through the system about the outage this morning, so that was good. I use alert sf, but also for my sons school and other things. Next door, all of these neighborhoodwide events i try to sign up for all of these alerts. As much information as possible. And these are very general. But in terms of access, i dont know. For me as a deaf person, i do feel like were responsible to prepare ourselves in advance by having extra batteries at home and things that may last a minimum of 72 hours, so if the power does go out and were not able to access the news and so on, we may or if the gas goes off and we dont have enough food, so planning for the earthquake preparedness activities, can be part of preparing for a power outage. I think its also a good lesson for everyone, but in terms of the access part, not sure. I mean the Community Outreach and partnering with different organizations is going to be so important. Some deaf people dont bother to reach out because were so used to being on our own and taking care of ourselves in those regard. And deaf people may sleep through audible fire alarms. Others are barely alerted to their own house on fire, and barely able to get their three children in the car. Rental landlords often dont provide ada accessible alerts, even though theyre required under law. And there can be alert animals, but thats not always a flawless system as well. I think there are so many things that we can do to prepare ourselves, but i think having the battery backup is really significant. And again, not sure if people can carry it, what is convenient for people . So just another approach i encourage you to consider. Thank you, council member. I appreciate the comment. One thing about Public Safety power shoutoff and prepare willing shutoff and preparing for that, if we have a large earthquake, there will be a public outage with everything else, with debris, with many other issues. So the efforts that people are going through to prepare themselves for Public Safety power shutoff are the same things they need to do for any type of disaster. I mentioned earlier we had 22,000 people without power earlier today. We could have many more in a Public Safety power shutoff. If something happens to the phone pole in front of your house, like it did mine, five residences were without power for five hours. That was tough. I had my dog inside. My spouse who works from home. And i had a refrigerator that was off. Ive taken steps where she now knows how to turn on the generator and get it going, much to my chagrin as i keep drilling to her do so, but this is how we prepare for an incident that happens to us. But it was small. It was only five. So whether its five, 500, 5,000 or more, the same steps were taking are what help us prepare. Ms. Senhaux chair thank you. Three more Council Questions to go. Thank you for waiting. Ms. Pelzman thank you for your comprehensive approach to this. It makes me feel a little bit better about what is going to what we could anticipate happening in both the disaster and also in turning off the power. Im going to follow up again on outreach. Especially as it relates to pg e as a renter, i dont have a pg e bill. And im not sure how you all have incorporated renters or folks like myself who dont pay the utility into your calculus of how to get inform us. As somebody who has done a lot of outreach in the past, i would encourage you to report back to us to let us know how you are going to be expanding both the method and person to person outreach if thats what it takes. [please stand by] i think that alex and myself and a number of other people here are really primarily concerned about how were being informed. And i my personal opinion about pg es efforts to get information out is i havent known them to be particularly robust and so im wondering who is monitoring pg es approach to this . Is that your responsibility . How do we make sure theyre going to accomplish what they claim theyre going to accomplish in a comprehensive way . Our responsibility and ill speak for the larger Emergency ManagementCommunity Working with all of our partners. Working with nicole. So when the California PublicUtilities Commission is doing their rulemaking process, we have made explicit requests that theyre going to be notifying individuals on their data bases, although as jan mentioned there are limitations to that. Theyre notifying Public Safety, which is including Emergency Management, fire, law, health and this is something throughout the bay area, we are asking pg e to do. Where we see gaps and a psps was initiated in june in the clear lake area. It was pg e did as much outreach as they could. They used a different data base and information they had so residents in that area, there wasnt a lot of complaining about not being notified. That doesnt mean that the converse is true that everybody that got it. It seems to have worked in terms of the current plan that they have. But certainly, we still want to ensure that its going to be successful for here in San Francisco and in any populated region in the bay area. How are you going to do that . Its continuing to participate in the rulemaking process and i can only point up north of how it went. There was one in marine that was successful if i remember correctly. So, that i understand you correctly, were counting on pg e to follow through on the rulemaking and thats where we are right now, correct . Yes. The cpuc will set the guidelines for notification that pg e needs to follow. Thank you. Thank you, council member. Thank you for waiting. Just a couple of im learning how to use the microphone here. I just want to say, this is unrelated but with the climate strike happening today and us using fuel for back up generation, i just want to and San Francisco wanting to be a green city, i want us to try and be more proactive in terms of thinking about how we want to power our back up generators. Thats just a mini comment. So the other i have two mini questions. One is with the power outage that happened today, i did get the text which was great. It looked like it lasted about an hour. How do you think that went . Do you think there was total uproar or do you think you were prepared when Something Like that happens . I felt the response today went quite well from when the one of the first notices happened in tandem we got a call from our pg e representative direct low to our center saying i want to let you know, this power outage is happening around that same time, our dispatch center got notice. We got sense of the area impacted and we did some initial polling of departments to find out what the impact was and we sent out the notice and on the phone and did a brief of what e knew was going on because of the weather. Should it have been a much warmer day, not having power that would be an impact. We had different departments briefing including pg e about the cause and then what different departments were doing and then we identified actually a lot of it was d. P. H. , what are the medical concerns that we had and what would the next steps be if we did not have a quick restoration. So, we rapidly pulled all of the hospitals in the effected area to find out who was effected and on generator . They all were. Who was not effected . Interestingly, despite being in the middle of the power outage area, several hospitals were not effected at all. We also now know that Health Changes though and so they were out patient clinics that had elective procedures going on but their generators were working. We checked to make sure that important resources like vaccines that must be refrigerated were being safely managed in a Rapid Response manner and then we started the process again this morning of requesting our empower data base to figure out, because we didnt know how long this was going to last for a few hours. So we requested it and started looping in both our regional partners and the federal government to let them know we were going through this and that we might be asking them for that information. Great. Thank you. We just had pre prepared messaging around food spoil age that we prepared with Environmental Health under the circumstances when it happens. Thank you. My other question comment is around it sounds like reports were submitted on august 30th from the department. And it looked like a lot of what you were outlining in the slides with the different meetings that it happened. Were all potential needs or disruptions in business and so i was wondering what the timeline is for you and the businesses to come up with a public im not quite sure what its called. Like a public summary of when because were coming on to fire season, unfortunately, probably within the next month or two. So we kind of need to know what the information is or where these emergency shelters are located if people need to go to home. So we are finishing the executive summary right now on the private sector and then well have the more detailed information going to them in the next couple weeks. Unfortunately the one correction i would make is were always in fire season. There really no start to it its something that is always part of it and its any time the weather is going up and the wind comes up and theres that possibility. Were always preparing and you are right, we want to get that information and thats the intended executive summary is going to be. The things that many of you spoke about and this is what we encourage everyone to do because theyre private sector we cant necessarily require that they do all these things but the continuity of Operations Plan that is kind of the most basic thing they can do. One of the most important things and what would be impacted if there were a power shut off. Thank you. Thank you. Hi. Thank you for being here and thank you for speaking. I found myself getting angry while you were speaking and i realized my anger is really directed at pg e. I wish they were here instead of us. Again, kudos for, as my colleague said, your comprehensive approach. Its reassuring to a certain extent. Although, a couple of quick questions. If the electricity is cut in the city, would it be city wide or would it be by neighborhood or it depends on what happens . Its the latter. It depends which i know makes it very difficult for the planning. We have asked pg e for explicit outage maps that if transmission is cut off in different areas, what will the impact be to the city . And they dont have a specific example for that often citing that each outage may be different and so they dont want to say this is the whole area that well be out when that may not be the case. Ok. It could be up to four days or it could be a few hours . It can. One of the things that pg e does emphasize is if the power is turned off, it may whether its for five minutes, five hours, five days they have their procedure to safely reenergize the system. They need to inspect the transmission lines to make sure the event that caused them to deenergize. They dont want to bring the system back up only to then have issues. Im sorry to interrupt. Its not just a fire has started or theyre trying to mitigate this spread of the fire . Or theyre trying to prevent a fire. It could be for something a tree falls down . It is for a windy day. My understanding is the intention of the psps event is when the conditions exist that may cause a tree to fall into a power line or some other continue that may increase the likelihood of a transmission line causing some type of power, thats when theyre going to turn it off. And so when they turn it off, they need to come back through and inspect to make sure that nothing is touching any of the lines or something happened so they can bring the system back up safely. And as they say, that takes time. They can do some of it with helicopters but in other areas they cant. They need to send line crews out in somewhat rugged terrain so they say it could be a minimum of 24 hours when the conditions no longer exist for psps for them to inspect everything to turn it back on. Right. It just strikes me as well, im worried because in the past, and i would think it was a year ago. I do kind of think of this as our fire season here, specifically. When it was the sanomanapa fires and air got so bad in San Francisco, you know, i have a medically fragile kid. Shes in a manual wheelchair. She is on a pulmonary machine. It shakes her lungs to keep them clear. And we also have an elevator. So thats how she gets access to and from our home. Those are our main concerns with that. With electricity. It was a relief initially to be able to stay in our home when the air was so bad. In the city. And now were saying huh, if the air is so bad we dont want to leave the house but we wont have electricity in our house. I mean, my first thought is we leave the city, right . We just get in our car and drive. Thats assuming though we get notification. We get some kind of warning. And a real life example of us not getting warning is i was one of the homes directly impacted by that geary explosion. I have signed up for sf alerts for the last two years, i didnt get an alert. The only way i knew about the fire, you would think oh maybe you heard it, right. It was an explosion. My house shook and im five houses, im seven houses down from the intersection where it happened. My house shook, what do you think i thought it was . An earthquake, right. Im facing west. I dont see the smoke. I hear some helicopters. I go outside my house and im on the top floor. I assume its a car accident on geary. Again, i dont smell smoke or see smoke. I hear the helicopters. I go back in my house and put on my music. Luckily, mother o neither of my 8yearold twins were home. I got text from friends to alert me what was going on. I walked east and looked out my third floor windows and run downstairs and open my front door and i see Police Officers in the middle of parker street. At this point, ive been in my house at least 10 minutes and im hearing the fire engines. I asked them, you know, what are we doing . Whats going on. They said you are being evacuated. And i couldnt go back to my house. I said my front door is open and were a family prepared for the 72 hours. Nope, maam, you cant go back in. So, that was our experience. And luckily no one was hurt, luckily i didnt have my kids. We got back in the next morning. My question later i thought, you know, i get all the alerts about traffic in soma, i get all the alerts about everything outside of my zip code even though i signed up just for the zip code specific once. I couldnt understand why i didnt get the alert for my own neighborhood. I realize maybe, maybe, although it doesnt make a lot of sense to me, i had a new phone with the same phone number but it was a new phone thats my Public Service announcement that you need to resign up for sf alerts and even if your phone number is the same. So anyway, my point is thats a real life example of where the system kind of i dont know if the system failed but we werent alerted and luckily nothing bad happen but it defini