Speak, they are welcome to. And ill sort of reiterate the speakers have two minutes. We ask you state your first and last name clearly and speak into the microphone. If you have a written state, leave it with our files. You have to avoid repetition of the previous statements. Sucati shaw, sarah lee, jordan davis, roma guy, alexander post, Steven Naylor, Courtney Hansen, diana black, jose bernall, megan swartz and if folks could line up at the right side of the chamber from your perspective. Megan swartz, carrie lambrecht, marty jay. Weve been doing this for a long time and we think the new supervisors who are joining in in. Roma guy from taxpayers and were a member of the new jail coalition. So one of the surprises of today, and not to repeat what everyone else said is this renewed polarization from 2015. So i just want to point out that some of the alternatives like pretrial or whatever have really been effective. One that wasnt effective was one of the partners who should be here who isnt here today is the police. Because they do the arrests. And so, you know, theyre really important in this on whats going to happen in terms of what your decisions are and what policies have to be developed so they arent the front line of alternatives and or incarceration. This is a key element that hasnt been brought up today and i think its true. The other thing is that you well know is one of the failures of the jail replacement projects for which i was a cochair with the sheriff and department of Public Health, barbara garcia. So when we made a unanimous decision which you agree to that we would develop an alternative around the seriously mentally ill, with a bond, a health bond, that bond investment has disappeared. At least to the knowledge that we know of. And so, the renovations at San Francisco general is for the expansion of the Navigation Center which we agreed to, but now, the Navigation Centers dont include people released from the jail. All of that has disappeared. We need thank you. Next speaker. Santa rita is in an egregious place. Now in the last five years in alameda county, there have been 43 in custody that we know of and 30 plus women in the last four years that have come forward with lawsuits alleging abuse, neglect and all kinds of horrific stories coming out of there. So if you want to talk about any transfers, the transfers need to be transfers from 850 back into the community. We should be talking about transfers into Sustainable Living wage jobs, into housing and into opportunities that make our Community Grow and make our community safe. The other point that i want to get across is, as a San Francisco resident and someone who spent a significant amount of time at 8 850 bryant, im tid of hearing this. Ive been hearing this my entire life, since the closure of 850. Weve heard enough and enough talking. You cant incarcerate the population. If your own family was there, think about your brother, sister, mother, this would have gotten done already. So weve talked about this long enough and time to put real weight, teeth and real legislation. The community has come forward and offered those solutions. So its not like were talking snag istalkingabout quote, unqus spirational. Im megan swartz a member of the coalition in conjunction with jose. Its shocking that were talking about a facility. Deemed uninhabitable for human beings and it is still open after years and years of knowing this. You could move all of the people out of there and be done with this. Thats first of all. With respect to alameda county, you should be in no way be considering transfers to santa rita jail. The place is an inimaginable house of horrors. Our coalition has uncovered so many egregious violations, 43 deaths that we know of, in addition to the fact sheriff ahern is known to cooperate with ice and allow ice into his jails and numerous human rights abuses documented through lawsuits after lawsuits, millions of dollars in settlements, is that something that San Francisco wants to get involved in . I should certainly hope not. Thank you. Next speaker. Good afternoon. Im sarah lee with the Free Sf Coalition and this is my colleague, kotia. Well have two minutes for each of you to speak but you will not be sharing the two minutes. Two minutes with one didnt then the other. Ok, great. Ok, please start. For both of us, were proud of the Free Sf Coalition advocating for pro immigrant policies in San Francisco including the tree ordinance and we wanted to share the immigrant rights site is the site to close down 850 bryant and completely together, because i think, as many people have said, that the idea to transfer people out of county, completely endangers the it community. Immigrant community. Last year alone, the Sheriffs Office turned over 102 immigrants to ice and this is one of the highest in all of the counties in california. So we wanted to make sure thats clear and that endangers and exposed immigrants to his policies with ice. Thank you. Im a expect rights director. Our organization was a part of the Free Sf Coalition and the coalition that passed legislation in 2013 and in 2016. And this legislation actually is stronger than the california one to protect the immigrant families and individuals in our city. Sheriff ahern has a way to collude with ice despite california sanctuary law. He persists in allowing ice officers into nonpublic areas of the jail, as well as transferring people who are detained. So you cant send any people to santa rita jail because this would violate due process legislations, the legislations that were passed by this board of supervisors. So you need to make sure that when closing 850 bryant which should happen immediately, immigrants are protected. Sheriff ahern is not someone to trust with immigrant communities or anyone, actually. And so if you are going to be transferring people, again, transfer them back to our communities, not into ice custody, not into another Sheriffs Department that is going to violate the rights or kill them. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker. Good afternoon. My name is tacati shaw and im an organizer with a project of Legal Services for prisoners. My deepest concern is that each of you sitting here, if im not mistaken, got here through being appointed as an officer or something of the such, correct . Youre voted in. It is our responsibility as voters to make sure that we Pay Attention to the things that you as Public Servants are not doing. 850 bryant should have been closed a long time ago because if you did have oh, say, me who owned a house and seismically my house is not up to par, you would have condemned my home and not given me a penny. So my question to you is, and im sure i wont get an answer, how are you sleeping at night knowing that the blood will be required at your hands for anyone who possibly dies because of an earthquake which could happen at any moment . The next step is homelessness. Homelessness is the greatest factor for prison. Most people who go to prison, including myself, homelessness, homelessness, homelessness leads to Mental Health and all kinds of certain things. I heard the supervisors say someone in her area was robbed homelessness, change that and recycle that and reuse it for a homelessness center and i bet you crime will go down. Great day. Thank you, next speaker. I remember in 1978, i was housed in Santa Clara County and they had me sleeping on the floor and had a contract with San Francisco and sent us to san bruno and you be creating safety issues for other people, bringing them from one county to another. I think the money should be spent to more resources, to educate people coming back into the community so they dont be a recidivist. Like i said, transferring people from one county to another, that wont solve the problem. We need to try to reduce the jail population and come up with other alternatives and it wouldnt be crowded in the first place. Thank you. Thank you, next speaker. Im alexander post, with the democratic socialists of network of the nonew jails. I work on behalf of people sentenced to death, challenging their sentences from inside san quentin and i bring that up because my client stories are similar, growing up in poverty, abused as children, with families unequipped to help, bad schools overwhelmed teachers and no councillors and learning disabilities and kids get punished for acting out, end up in juvenile hall. They are treated harshly, they lash out and suffer harm. Maybe you can understand when i hear were considering a plan to improve Public Safety by building a new jail whether its called new justice jail or whatever, that sounds absurd. I am willing to bet or residents serve less jail time than people in other districts. Is that because were better people than district 10 . I dont think so. Its because were whiting and d riching and the city serves us better. We have good housing, good schools, good healthcare, including Mental Health, good parks, Street Lighting and the system works for us, basically. Thats Public Safety. We dont need the threat of cages to act lawfulfully because the system is working for us. Dont double down on 19t 19th Century Solutions rooted in racism. It wont include Public Safety. We know what works, its investing in communities. Maybe the system work not just for us but everything. Thank you, next speaker. My name is Steven Naylor and the city has fallen so far short for providing the basic services and care that the People Living here need to survive and the reason that we cant see this is because our most Vulnerable People are locked away, out of sight, trapped in endless pretrial processes and on account of laws and enforcement policies that make it a crime to be in public while poor. Incarceration invisiblizes the scopech our cityscope of our cd will be true in a crumbmy building or shiny new one. The hard work of solving social problems has been outsourced as a default by the police and jail system for far too long and you must not allow that to continue any longer. Thank you, next speaker. Hello. My name is carrie lambrecht. Im a paralegal and investigator. Ive been working on the cases against santa rita jail for conditions, including the morbochr case and upshaw case on sleep deprivations. This is not something you want to send people to. As a resident of 25 years to the city, this is not an approach you should consider in any way whatsoever. I am echoing the former speakers around the death rate which was reported by fox news on october 1st, as being within of the highest in th county jaif its size. The cases inside i am investigating, women who have lost their babies, deaths, a woman who gave birth in an isolation cell alone without any medical support in santa rita jail. These types of conditions are not anything that i think we need to be considering sending more people to and i think that we need to consider what many of the speakers today have outlined as nonew jail and we need more resources for people to remain in the Community Without monitoring and we also need more Treatment Options which i dont think have been outlined or presented today. So thats what i would like to have you steer your attention towards and i am strongly in favour of you not considering santa rita jail as a direction you want to move in, thank you very much. Thank you. Next speaker. Hi, good afternoon. My name is Courtney Hansen and im a member of the coalition for women prisoners and we have worked with women, trans and conforming for many years. As weve been discussing, a truly number of people we have worked with, over 80 are incarcerated before trial and stuck there for months and years. We cannot reiterate the pretrial point as much. These folks should not be touching a precarc system, period. That does include, electronic, shackles and ankles. We learned how making this finding jobs impossible, not to mention the stress of trying to care for your child with a shackle on your leg. Im speaking of someone who has experienced house arrest, and incarceration is not an alternative. It is shocking and unacceptable that San Francisco has increased the use of electronic monitoring by 300 since 2018 while the jail population has also increased and while crime rates have stayed stagnant. There are nonprofits that can be utilized in this community that have the skills and are the experts like own recognizance project is secondlook program. And it is possible to deincarcerate all people at bryant without tro transfers and someone locked in santa rita, that is an extremely, dark and dramatic place. Im worked up just hearing people talk about it. And to supervisor stephanie, i understand where youre coming from, but we know for a fact that cops in jails do not prevent innerpersonal harm but exacerbate harm. He do not stop instances from happening and they dont create healing and solutions after they occur. Its an illusion. Thank you, next speaker. Hello, board. So the jail at 850 bryant is falling apart and needs to be closed. The building is parke marked for demolition since 1996. To illustrate that, ill bring in people weve been communicating inside the jails. please stand by . We have people incarser rated. The worst thing i would want for anything to make the situation of my people worse. I dont know if closing 850 bryant down will make it harder for a mother to have access to her child that is incarcerated, right . I want to make one thing clear, too. You know, people talk about the criminal element. I dont like it either. I am black. Blacks dont get along with the killers any better either, right . I am on the fence until i find out more information. We need more talks between the city officials, the community, and the people that is working for the solution. It is an opportunity for that engagement because they are civil servants. We need that connection between the people and civil service. What they did right here is a good example of community interaction. The people need to grab the power back. I am not sure if this is the correct lane. I am on the fence with that. Thank you. Next speaker. In regards to the population in the jail. The sheriff wants to be a bag matest. You have heard the pragmatist. 111 people have been granted release regardless of charges. If they could afford 500,000 bond. We need to talk about those. 40 of the people in the jail are house less, 46 are black. Again, why are the conditions of policing and jailing and lack of Mental Healthcare causing those populations to be targeted. Lets address the root causes, lets not transfer. We have a plan with 72 recommendations. I will read a couple. Create cooperative custody for those homeless but do not need residential treatment. 73 approval. In bed wraparound services. 85 approval. Increase housing capacity for shelter, 92 approval. Create small residential behavioral based centers. 92 jrp approval. What only had 27 jrp approval was the new jail. Only 4 approval sending people outofcounty to alameda county. Today we have heard a lot, and you have talked about this. There are 14 hearings in regards to the jail. We all know the jail needs to close. You are admitted to that. We ask for a commitment to today to take action on that. Thank you. Next speaker. I am shirley leslie, part of the no new sf jail coalition. I have listened for four years. I have been faced with the reality the city has wasted too much by criminalized the most vulnerable and i believe that 850 bryant embodies that. The jail system criminallises the poor, unhoused, people of color and people who need mental and behavioral healthcare. The conditions inside 850 and for loved ones visiting are dehumanizing with violence and fear. This jail population must be reduced and this facility must be closed immediately with no offshoots. We reject relocation, expansion of electronic monitoring, renovation or creating a justice campus. Invest in open Community Run programs, invest in Supportive Housing, support and invest in people. Thank you. Next speaker. I am an immigrant Youth Community organizer with just cause. We know incarceration is not the answer to healing communities. We see the San Francisco jail system representing economic disparities. Weep need to invest in community resources, not jails. I would like to address the proposals for outofcounty transfers, specifically in reference to santa rita jail. They are not ideal. This are unacceptable. The board of supervisors passed legislation to protect immigrant families and individuals. The sheriff has found ways to continue to colluding with ice despite the california values act. He continues to allow ice in nonpublic areas and publishes release dates of prisoners online to enable ice to detain undocumented prisoners upon release. You cant send people to santa rita jail. 850 bryant must be closed the sheriff has over seen the Sheriffs Office for 13 years. In the past five years there are 43 in custody deaths. According to data from the california attorne attorney gen were awaiting trial. The death rate in santa rita is 50 higher than lr county and they are the largest jailer. This is an extreme Public Health issue. We cannot send people where they will die. We ask for pretrial diversion and exhaust all avenues for release rather than incarceration. Next speaker. Good afternoon, supervisors. I work with Community Housing partnership. I want to thank you for having this hearing today. The issue today is about safety and how it has