Transcripts For SFGTV Government Access Programming 20240713

SFGTV Government Access Programming July 13, 2024

Review this count and ensure that its not stale. So eventually through the process of usdoj recommendations implementation, we may have discovered actually we have to change a policy to do this one thing, even though the recommendation doesnt necessarily call out that theres specifically a policy change that needs to happen. But there may actually be a resulting change that needs to happen from the work of starting the implementation of a particular recommendation. So we are going to take this back and do a more thorough dig on those kinds of items and make sure that we have a very clear picture of which recommendations are impacted by policy. Thank you. Vice president taylor. Thank you. This last page is good and theres more questions than you anticipated. Yes. When you come back and do that deeper dive can you report on not only what the correct numbers are but of the correct numbers where are we in terms of our implementation of changes . Yes okay. Yes, chief . I would just like to add, those numbers will be a living document as commissioner taylor and elias are well aware of with our work on the bias dgo which led to other dgos that werent necessarily on that list. We anticipate that there will be more of that. Well dig into a dgo and recognize we need to change another one to make that one make sense. So it will have fluctuations on that. A good example of that is 5. 03, as you all know. It was slated in the schedule already, but it made sense to marry the two. Great. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next item. I have a comment online item 3 this is Public Comment online item 3 you said . Okay. Public comment just on item 3. Not general Public Comment yet. Just item 3. Seeing none, its closed. Line item 4. The general Public Comment. The public is welcome to address tonights commission on subjects that are not on the agenda. They shall address the remarks to the commission as a whole and not to an individual. During Public Comment Neither Police or dpa personell nor commissioners are required to respond questions presented by the public but may provide a brief response. Individual commissioners and personnel should refrain from entering into debates or discussions with speakers during Public Comment. Okay. Finely. Thank you. My name is daniel pais. We have a new district attorney. And you are the board of supervisors. All right. 62 years on this planet, i spent 47 involved in politics, starting with the Mcgovern Campaign in 72. I was also a volunteer coordinator to pass the equal rights amendment to the constitution while living in texas. I am a cofounder of queer nation San Francisco. Politics is my passion. And if theres one thing i know its politics. In all those years ive never seen a more incompetent campaign than that against bodine by the establishment specifically the Police Officers association. They ran a trumplike campaign. Dirty, personal attacks, much like the ones they used against jeff even after he died. Just like Trumps Campaign and attacks against john mccain. It used to be the norm that attacking the dead was considered trashy and low class behavior. But without the poas immature crapslinging campaign and without the mayors appointment as interim da the powers that be would have probably gotten their way. Remember breed only won by a squeaker against jane and mark. Her first big political test this election failed miserably. She doesnt have what it takes to be the mayor. The brains the political astuteness or high character. She is weak. To her allies reconsider your options. The poa is feeding like maggots on the rotting corporation that corporation corpse that is the past. The poa needs higher iq and lower blood alcohol level counts. Next speaker. Any other public speakers . Can i get the overhead . Yes. [off mic] there should be a button. My time speaking tonight is three minutes. And i appreciate all this that i have here. The forum that i have. And speaking about this statue i would like to put up in memory of mario woods. This is a memorial drawing i have to the time that we spend here for mario woods and stuff. And you know, i really appreciate this because when you come down here and everything, when you speak into the mic, when you see the pledge of allegiance, because this is what they are doing. They are pledging allegiance. Its not like the national anthem. But this pledge of allegiance. And we all are americans. And mario is a hero. Hes a martyr. And when mario woods was spoken occupy by can because of the wardrobe malfunction, she said, you know like she said a lot. It was like a pledge of allegiance. So this football hes putting here and mario woods and everything, you know. When i was a teen, what happened in chinatown and everything, you know, i was walking down polk street, and this girl said help me help me and i said no youre crazy people right there by all the homeless people. Why are they looking at me . Im 7 years old. But you know, i was really lucky that i was able to be there because i could do something. She says really, he broke my window, i was just driving down the street and he takes my phone. You know . Its a very dangerous thing to have 100 waving it in front of these people. And i say, you know, i was really afraid for her at that moment, because he really gave her a dirty look. And i said ill take care of it, ill take care of it. And you know, when it comes to the police, youre really lucky to have them around when you need them. You could take this off. Its all right. I wouldnt mind being on the camera. You know . Like when it comes to getting down here and being able to speak to you all and be here. You know . Its so blessed. Its a blessing, you know . So you know, as i walk around the corner following the guy, you know ill take care of it. Who shows up but the police, four of them. Unmarked car. And i say help me, help me, help me. One second we had them down. And you know, they were so good what they did that day. You know . And i was too. Im a hero in my own eyes. Thank you. Your time is up. Thank you. [laughs] just hand it to all right. Thank you. [off mic] all right. We are ready for our next speaker. Thank you. Today is my mothers birthday. Happy birthday to her. [off mic] we need our next speaker. Im sorry. Okay. Good evening. Hi there we need the mic please. With the Public Defenders Office. Im focused on Police Misconduct among other things for a couple of reasons. I want to sort of go back to the basics for a minute. Or ten seconds perhaps. Number one is because Police Misconduct undermines public trust in our systems. Number two, it jeopardizes individual case integrity. Number three, it victimizes the individuals that suffer directly from misconduct. And number four, it devalues the work of so many, many good cops. Last week a commissioner opined people watching the meet would feel unsupported of discussion of the 79 reports of misconduct in the dpas 2018 annual report. It struck me in a couple ways. First its important to note that those 79 cases are just from the folks that had the wherewithal and courage to not only report to dpa to follow up. Second the point of the information is to allow everybody to see it and talk about it and digest it. The third the innocent victims might feel unsupported to hear the commission questioning a relatively short discussion on the topic. And then last its because those honest and wellintentioned and respectful and peaceful and hardworking Police Officers should feel great that misconduct in their ranks is rooted out so that they dont suffer the discredit that comes from it. I wanted to ensure that you all saw the study that was published by the Sacramento Bee and other out lets this weekend. And i have copies of it. This is a problem. The fact that many police have convictions and pending cases and we are not focused on making sure that those criminal convictions and pending cases are disclosed that we have a system for disclosing it, at least in active cases that those police are involved with, is a problem that we all need to come together and solve in my opinion. After personally witnessing all right. I will stop there. You have thirtyseconds. I have 30 seconds . Okay. Thank you. After personally witnessing pd perjury not so long ago the judge put out a call to all of us. He asked how do you protect the integrity of the judicial process to ensure he find that is presented in court is truth . I think this is a call for action for all of us who care about that integrity and that truth. And so okay. Now your time is up. I want to hand out. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker. Good evening. Good evening commissioners. Did you have a comment to this last just quickly. I want to be clear and defend my fellow commissioner a little bit. I dont think anyone on the commission has an issue with dpas report. In fact, we are the one who asked director henderson to give us that report of the 79. We are the ones asking for the information. There was a discussion last week about the way certain things in the report were represented. And thats what the lively discussion was about. But theres no impression we all wanted that information and we asked for it. I dont think any commissioner was trying to suggest that any bidirector henderson giving us that information there was something improper about it. We all wanted it and we asked for it. Commissioner mazzucco you may have missed a point there. I agree with you. The Police Officers one bad Police Officer makes it bad for every other officer in this department. And ive heard that mantra for years. But the officers are not feeling supported. Because they do a lot every day that we dont know about and you as a public defender coming here and you raise these issues because your job is to be a public defender, you raise those before the judge where your client has a case pending. But the constantly are taking this negative nobody ever focusing on the positive. So in order for us to bring change, its difficult to bring change when we are continually hammering on the negative. The negative is recognized. You would be surprised that we do as a commission. But the reality is theres a certain that seems not to want to let it go. You as a public defender represent people who have been accused and sometimes wrongfully. It happens on both sides of the aisle. Commissioner elias. Thank you. I wanted to thank you with bringing up the point with respect to 79 instances because i think i lost sight of that. 79 instances out of a police force of 2,000 what is it 2300 . So you have 2300 officers and 79 instances in one year . The odds are great in terms of theyre not being a lot of instances of misconduct. So it is very low. And so i think that thats why its important for us to take a deep dive into the sort of few instances that are recorded and really explore them. So thank you for reminding me about that. Okay. Well resume Public Comment. Thank you. Good evening commissioners, chief scott, director henderson. Im here to ask sfpd to report to the commission and public about the lead program, Law Enforcement assisted diversion. This program was molded after seattles awardwinning program to refer drug offenders. To Community Based health and social services as an alternative to jail and prosecution. Programs like lead are exactly what we need to improve the Health Status of participants and end the cycle recidivism. So far the program appears to be unutilized and appears to those arrested for low level drug offenses are by and large black and brown people. They dont participate in the same rates in the lead program through referrals or social contacts. I have a chart that illustrates that Racial Disparity. Bring that out. There we go. Wrong way. There we go. The whole thing. Okay. Thank you ms. Brown. Theres a thing on the side. Yeah. Times up. Sorry. [laughter] thank you. Well give you an extra 20 seconds for being technologically challenged thank you. The Racial Disparities are kind of the opposite of what we do expect. So normally onethird of participants are black and nine percent are latin while more than half are white. Similar disparities exist for those referred to lead instead of those who are booked. Recently published at the Public Defenders Office. And i brought copies that push back on the citys representations to the board of supervisors that they were arresting mid to high level drug dealers. The data showed they werent. It revealed 93 percent of people in the operations were black or brown. Weve heard that referrals to lead dont happen after 5 00 p. M. Because of the parole dont work after 5 p. M. I think the data here prompts us to at least should prompt the commission to take a hard look at lead starting by sfpd to present on the topic focused on the Racial Disparities the number of participants compared to the eligibility ones and all validation measures. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Commissioner elias. Thank you. I appreciate that. Can we grab a copy . Copies . Thank you. The lead program i think ive spoken several times about the program. Because i actually was the attorney at the Public Defenders Office when we tried to implement this program from seattle. And i had the opportunity to travel to seattle and meet the lead team there who had created this program. And its a nationallyrecognized program and being implemented in other major cities like atlanta, new york different cities like that. So i think it is a great program. And ive spoken to the chief about the Program Prior to joining the police commission. And i have to say that the chief actually he was committed to sort of making sure that the program succeeded. I know one of the issues was officer buyin in terms of having a new program and getting them to buy into the program and make these referrals. Because from the officers perspective what they were feeling is its like another drug quarter where they refer people and nothing gets done and they arent seeing people actually utilize the services but rather return on back to the street, which sort of gave the officers they lost hope in referring people to the program. So i know that that was an issue. And sort of the Racial Disparity was an issue in terms of the referrals when i had left the program more than a year ago. So i would ask you chief to give us an update and status on the lead program. And ive said how hsoc resembles that program by taking people and rather than arresting them providing them with services and giving them more hand holding and resources to sort of navigate through the system rather than just giving them a court that says hey, show up here. So i would like an update on the status of the program. Because i know it was grantbased and i thought it was three years. There was extra funding that was unused. They are rolling through that. Do you know what the Expiration Date . The end of this fiscal year, june 30 of 2020 so yeah. As of june 30 you have to reply . What happens . Or if the program is being successful given the evidence of the program, we have to find a way to fund it. The Police Department did not get any funding for lead. So we are on a our own like we often are in terms of that. Its through dph. It was like 2 million. It was a big grant. It was almost 6 million. I know it was a couple. Million. The program. I was like can i get that . The dph would like to support there was a lot of funding because its a multiagency. Its the Police Department dph its glide. Theres other agency. So they were at the table when this program was sort of implemented. So again, i would like an update of status. And i do want an answer or analysis of the racial composition in terms of what type of people are being referred to the program and why there are sort of some Racial Disparities that may or may not be existing with respect to the referrals. And its only in the tenderloin and mission district. So its not even throughout the city. Its two very targeted areas in the city that are participating in the program. Commissioner hamasaki. Thank you. And thank you for bringing this to our attention. I know that commissioner elias has spoken about this many many times. And so i would actually go in the quest for a report on this. It does sound like a new and innovative and potentially productive program. So we obviously all want to learn about things that work, where theres room for improvement and especially if we are coming up on a funding issue in the middle of next year maybe its a time we took a look at it as a commission and heard more about it. Vice president taylor. Yeah. I want to join them. I think the issue is not so much that its a third because you can say black people are a third of the program but given the small percentage of the San Francisco population and given the large percentage of the incarcerated population, that is concerning. I know you shared these concerns when i was talking about the templates. Every little thing we do in terms of how we present who minorities are in the city, all those things we internal lies so to have pamphlets to know your rights that have black and brown people on them, but in the program like lead which gives people a Second Chance you have a relatively small percentage considering the population thats actually in the jails. We can do better as a city. So every little thing that we do as a department, as a commission to instill in people okay, you are either valuable or you are less valuable i think is really important. And, you know down to the pamphlets that we have on know your rights. We should have as many white people as they do brown. Like scholarships should not just have white people on it. So i know you agree with those things. I would like to delve people. We do ourselves a disservice if we are not giving our minority population the same chances. Thank you. Next public speaker. Good evening. Good evening. Drives me crazy i would like to use the overhead again

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