Street. We have also had conversations with acting chief williamson chief scott regarding having plainclothes officers to have a more vulnerable and honest dialogue. Often times people may feel uncomfortable around seeing officers in full uniform, especially with the weapons that they may have. If theres any rumour flexibility around that, that would be greatly appreciated. Trust is necessary when building relationships with these communities, and investment into the relationships because history with communities can be so complex. Falling along with sfusd and the sfpd m. O. U. , we hope to see these voted on by the board of education with the recommendations we have submitted. We played a vital role in outreaching and putting our recommendations on the chief ordinance and we hope the department can make sure to follow the right procedures to make sure my people young people know their rights and their rights to council. In terms of what we can report back to what these commissioners have done since november, we have visited Juvenile Hall and met with the director from there and we had a conversation of what the daytoday schedule me look like for youth in there. We have had conversations with chief scott and conversations with yolanda and kevin. What we are working on currently is that person here . Sorry, kevin. And what we are applying to do in the next year, we are currently working on our budget priorities. We are ultimately hoping to do a resource fair or youth please youth police roundtable. Thank you. Wait, wait, wait. Not that fast. [laughter]. You have great ideas. I wanted to ask you about one of them. It was about plainclothes officers. Are you asking for uniformed officers to spend some time in plainclothes . Yeah, i was just reading off my phone. If they were to attend community events, for example, when the minister of justice attended a town hall, many of the officers were there and they were in full uniform with all of their weapons intact. And some of the individuals at the event and other commissioners had felt it was a bit uncomfortable, especially seeing it was if there is any way that a commissioner commissioner jones has said in adaptive uniform, away where they honor the rules that they have to be ready for anything that may happen, so an attacker, but also be aware that sometimes the uniforms that they may wear may scott justly or subconsciously trigger the environment and the culture that the room is an with certain members of certain communities. So if there is any wiggle room around that that would be appreciated. Thank you. I wanted to thank you, commissioner jones, because he came to our working Group Meeting this past monday and it was, number one, great to see him. I think commissioner taylor and i were very happy took us up on our offer to join or participate in the working group. Not only was he there, but he provided some invaluable input and advice in terms of us and a working group, because we are at the part where we are trying to roll out the bias free policing strategic plan. So it was really refreshing to have his young, youthful point of view, and not only that, he is a San Francisco resident. He was able to share with us some of the experiences he had growing up, as well as his family, which i think really helped put things in perspective when we are in those kinds of groups. I wanted to tell him thank you. Let him know i really appreciate it and i would welcome any other Youth Commissioners or youth to participate in this process because it is very important, and it does help us, especially when we are writing these policies and implementing these policies. Of course. I will pass that along to him. Thank you. Thank you. Chief, if you have any answers for the young commissioner tonight. Yes. I met with the board of the Youth Commission on monday and the discussion was around when we meet some of the members of the commission, and probably others feel uncomfortable when we are in uniform. The ask was, is there any way we could meet in a plainclothes capacity. What i told them is there are occasions where that can be worked out. I think we had our roundtable and many of the officers were in plainclothes. It can be worked out. But i also explained that when officers are on duty, they have to carry their equipment because they have to be ready to respond to whatever comes their way. They understood that part. It is just a matter of setting the parameters of the meetings where we can have officers like we did the last time come in plainclothes where it is appropriate. Is something we will work on together and hopefully have another roundtable here to discuss in the future. I did want to touch on that point because it is a twoway street. The communities will try to do is much as they cant have a more positive and more sustainable relationship with Law Enforcement. I want to honor that. Thank you. Thank you for your presentation. Of course,. One of the things i wanted to ask that you can do, and you might know about it because i thank you touched on the work you guys are doing around Youth Councils. I thank you have one in district 11. I thank you have one in district 11. I was asking about the Youth Councils. When you come up to the next Commission Meeting, it is worth mentioning the progress that you guys are happening having, and if there any issues working with groups to help you guys formalize those councils. I believe district one has developed a Youth Council. I know district 11 has and i believe. Commissioner jones that there is a d10 Youth Council in the works i am not part of that but i know that there has been evidence strides to make sure that the youth in the district 11 are represented because district 11 is representative of many marginalized communities, big families, immigrants, so there is a lot of political there is a big political culture there so to have that space i think with anybody, it is difficult to get the word out because of accessibility and who can hear these things. We have a little bit of accessibility for some communities. I think the Youth Commission has done a lot to help aid them around anything that they need of getting outreach and connecting with each other. Absolutely did. Thank you for that. I think that is worth noting just to see how active our Youth Commissioners are. The fact they have taken the time to say that they know either youth cannot come down to city hall, so we need to create councils within the district to make sure their voices are being heard. I want to speak to the activity that you guys are doing. Keep it up. Thank you. I am glad to hear that you guys are going into the community, and especially d11 where there is a huge Asian Community and their is a big need for translators. Do you have the capability to have translators follow different languages in that district . In regards to what exactly . When we go to those ones, we have to get translators to come because there is a heavy asian, and documented population and asian population. They speak a variety of dialects i am wondering how the Youth Commission, when you go out to these communities, are you able to bring interpreters or do you see that as a problem . It is a concern. It does go back to the point of accessibility. Many of the commissioners on these commissions are bilingual. We try to get as many people for any event. There is always a mix of languages. We tend to be very intersectional. We do come to issues, but it is one of those things we dont necessarily know because we know x amount of people are here, but who is missing from the table and that dialect . We do struggle with those things and we are making strides in order to make it more diverse. It is important to be aware of diversity but making sure these communities and people and spaces are safe for them. If you just have eczema out of marginalized people in a space, it is not safe for them and you are not doing anything and you are only contributing to the problem. We have made a number of interviews and meats and one on ones to work around communitybased organizations to get translators to get a workaround for and documented immigrants. That is a big population in d11. There is we want to go to these events, but we dont feel like we are seen. We are not historically allowed in these conversations in that language barrier. I want to say these things, but unfortunately i dont say it in a language that is socially accepted in america. How can i get my point across if they dont literally understand me . I want to thank you. So often i worry on this commission that we are in a small little bowl and we are not necessarily there is a very small segment of the population that can be here at city hall on a wednesday night at 5 30 p. M. People have jobs, people have families. I wonder i worry it is not reflective of the entire population. So much of what we do as a commission affecting people in San Francisco. I want to thank you for showing up here and showing up at the working Group Meeting we had. It is really important that we have the voices of young people. Just a little unsolicited unsolicited praise. Thank you very much for being here and giving your input and ideas. Of course. Thank you for saying that. I also think there is merit in being able to say that. Although there are 17 representatives, we are only 17 people and there are many districts. The issues are only intensified and we can only speak to my narrative in my story that. Hopefully that is something that not only this board, but our board as well can tackle and be aware of diversity and having everyone at the table. Because the concept of being a voices no longer a thing. Sometimes people just need to be able to pass the microphone. Thank you very much for that. You make us feel not good. [laughter] thank you, its amazing. Next line item. [please stand by] sorry about that. Thats okay. Its really just an announcement. I wanted to make sure i thank commissioner karen from the Southeast Community facility commission. Her organization has given help to underrepresented families. I think its the fourth or fifth giveaway shes done, correct . Tenth, i believe. The tenth giveaway. It was last friday. They do bike giveaways. I did want to make sure i acknowledged her and thanked her and her organization for their charitable donation to families in the community. Commissioner hamasaki thank you. Last week i attended a meeting at affirmative action for captain yick and one of the sergeants who i dont recall his name, as well as a number of members from the Chinatown Community to discuss the ongoing real problems that asianamericans, the Chinese Community are having in this city, both in chinatown and other districts where theres heavy asian populations and the Mayors Office as well. And really i think everybody is seeing the news reports and headlines so i dont need to repeat all of that. But people are really looking for new and Innovative Solutions to a problem that seems to have spiked up in a way that is causing a lot of real challenges within various communities. So it was good to be there and hear everybodys perspective and hopefully we can keep working to make advances so that theres no longer the fear or concern of chinese and asianamericans being targeted in our communities. Thank you. Next line item. Line item 1e, commissioner announcements and scheduling of items identified for consideration. Action. Our next meeting is january 8, is that right . Thats right. January 8, 2020 at city hall room 400. All right. Next line item. The public is invited to comment online item 1a through 1e. Good evening. My name is john jones. I would like to follow up on the chairs comment that Public Comment is going to be curtailed this evening because you are all so busy. It has been my impression over the years ive attending these meetings that this commission is uniquely unresponsive to the Public Comment. Ive rarely if ever seen a commissioner ask a question about someone commenting. If you care about what they say, you ask a question about it. The most important thing to this commission is the speakers add here to the twominute limit because god forbid we dont want to waste your time. With respect to the twominute limit, i think some people come up to this podium merit more than two minutes. I particularly remember the two chinese businessmen who came a couple months ago. And in my opinion, if i merit two minutes, they merit at least five, because they had a story to tell. So a larger question on my mind is whether or not this commission individually or collectively has the accuminimum to ask a question of john q. Citizen who stands up here and asks a question or makes a statement, whether or not you have the ability to discern what that person has to say. Its a question in my mind. I give up the balance of my time. Thank you. Next speaker. Good evening. My name is adrian. Im with justice. Im here to address the shooting of a young man of color in the mission on saturday. And i would like to know if the commission would ask the chief, right now, to tell us what are the names of the officers who shot this person, because that is not confidential. Also i would like to know the name of the officer who was supposedly injured and under what circumstances was he injured, and if they will provide evidence of that moment to the public at the town hall meeting, because an article just published by Mission Local has indicated that there was a video that was viewed by Mission Local, though not published, because they didnt have permission, in which it is very clear that the person shot by these officers was being chased and in no way presented any threat, therefore this makes it an unnecessary shooting that violates also time and distance policies of this commission, which i really hope you will enforce with disciplinary action. I would also hope that the chief informs us what is the records of these officers involved in the shooting, including what type of complaints they had had, disciplinary actions, internal affairs incidents. We also hope that you will give us more information about evidence that we hear is out there, which is drone videos that have been confiscated by sfpd, cell phone Security Camera, and whether there was any body camera videos. If the names of those officers could be please given to us, that would be great. Thank you. Can you repeat what the town hall is going to be, chief scott . Yes, thank you. Tuesday at 6 00 p. M. , this coming tuesday at 6 00 p. M. At Cesar Chavez Elementary School. Thank you good evening. I went saturday to the corner and talked to the community. It was upset, disturbed and yet not surprised, sadly, by the incident. We are very concerned why if there are no charges, has the family not been allowed to be with this man who is in Critical Condition. We know when people are in Critical Condition they need love, they need care, they need to know somebody is there. No charges and not being allowed to see their family. Their family was at the press conference last night. Why . This is cruel and unusual punishment. If any of you saw the video they published of this young man, he has had a difficult childhood with a lot of drug abuse around him. They showed video of him in a recovery program. It was amazing video saying how hes learned to try to participate in society. Maybe he held back from it, we dont know. Im not going to conclude anything. But i find this so disturbing. Where was the time and distance . How come the police are saying, and they are not saying what weapon, theres implications of a bottle that no one else in the public or witnesses have concluded or said that there was a weapon involved. So we are very upset. Now, that building on the corner there is mainly filled housing for parole and probation. So those people are very afraid and could be intimidated very much by the police if they try to say what they saw. So no time or distance, no charges. Family is not allowed there. Names withheld of the Police Officers. This is not how procedure is meant to be. Using time and distance, a negotiator, we are chasing this man down the street, obviously hes having some kind of incident. This is not compassionate. Its not fair. Its wrong. And i do hope and pray that he survives this. His body was also laying naked on the dirt [off mic] thank you. Next speaker. Yes, i would like to make some comments about the shooting on saturday. Specifically regarding some of the euphemisms that have been used in the discussion of it by this panel tonight. So i keep hearing the phrase officerinvolved shooting, which to me is a bit strange because what we are really talking about here is an officer shooting a member of the public. Its not just simply involved. Okay. Lets be specific. Lets not minutes words with that. What would be a better phrase . I would like to finish first if you dont mind. It would be simple to say that the officer shot the member of the public. I dont think we need to say officerinvolved at all, really. Secondly, ive been hearing people say that the officer and the victim were both harmed, which to me also seems like euphemisms. Lets be clear that the damages were completely disproportionate on the side of the victim here, as i understand it, the officer was discharged the same day with minor head injuries, while the victim is still in the hospital in the trauma unit, still in Critical Condition from being shot in the legs three times. Thirdly, i would like to be clear that even though there are nonviolent means to disarm a person who is being violent toward the Police Officer without a firearm, without a knife, these were not used in this case apparently or if they were used, the man was still shot three times. So i think we have to be clear about these facts in the discussion. And i think the panel has so far evaded the seriousness of this incident. Thank you. Chief, im going to ask you to explain. We often use the term officer involved shooting in