Can we have the next caller. Caller good evening, supervisors. Todd snyder for district 5. I thank you for amending this measure next week and supporting it thus far. I ask that you continue to support it today. And i want to point out that an arbitrary number of Sworn Police Officers provides no flexibility to adapt to the changing needs of our city. And this came from a Consent Decree entered into in 1979. And lifted in 1998. It has no relevance to the city today. So i urge you to continue to support this measure and to put it before the voters on the ballot in november. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Can we have the next caller, please. Caller i already spoke once and i have been unmuted. Clerk i believe this person has already spoken before per their comment. Can we have the next caller, please. Caller yes, im a native san franciscan, and im in my 60s. I want to express that changing the charter to minimal staffing is a deadly Public Policy decision on your part. No doubt that criminals are intercepting this message as an opportunity to commit rape, murder, assault, theft, and an endless list of criminal activity. I hope that youve also given thought to potential international terrorism. Were really in a vulnerable position. You also place on Police Officers that extremely higher risk and you will be responsible for their deaths and for their injuries. This city has really turned into a complete cesspool of crime, bad governmental regulations and unsafe decisions. The current number of Police Officers does not even meet the growing population of residents. We have truly a major shortage here. And im really disgusted by this antipolice sentiment. Im an older resident and this place is really changing and it is really upsetting. Id like to know who strongarm you to creating in unsafe proposal. The line message here is that you never, never, never compromise Public Safety. Someone will die. Additionally, you will be responsible for the deaths of more Police Officers. Its happening as we speak. Stop do, this and do the right thing. And its not whos right, its what is right. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Can we have the next caller, please. Caller good morning, supervisors, my name is gracie and i live and work in district 4. I just would like to address that Police Officers actually commit rape often and theyre never charged for crimes such as rape and murder. Thank you for listening to the Community Last thursday and putting the remight hava removae police into this language. This demonstrates San Franciscos lived experience. Public safety comes from investing in our community, not criminalizing them. I thank the socialist of color caucus. And calling in support to eliminate the sfpd minimum staffing. indiscernible we look forward to working with you all to defund sfpd and to reinvest in our communities. Thank you. I yield my time. Clerk thank you. Can we have the next caller, please. Caller good morning, supervisors. My name is sarah and i live and work in San Francisco in district 1. Thank you for listening to the Community Last week and putting their language regarding maximizing Police Presence in this amendment. This properly demonstrates San Franciscos values and reflects the data and our lived experiences. Public safety comes from investing in our communities, not criminalizing them. And to the caller who spoke before me, he said that amending charter will increase crime and that people will die. People are dying at the hands of Police Officers and as a survivor of Sexual Assault and rape i can tell you that police have done nothing for me to support me or to bring justice to me in any way. So the current state that were living in is not actually beneficial for the people of this city. Im calling once again in support of the Charter Amendment to eliminate the minimum staffing requirement. And im asking you to please recommend this Charter Amendment to the whole board of supervisors. Im looking forward to working with you to defund sfpd and to reinvest in our communities. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Can we have the next caller, please. Caller hello, supervisors, my name is sage and i live in district 11, and i work in district 7 on occupied land known as the alono. I feel odd thanking you for doing what is the will of the people but im pleased to see that it was removed from the amendment. I want to further recommend that this be taken to the entire board so that it actually makes it on to the ballot. A couple of things. Im still absolutely perturbed about the fact that you dont have your cameras on and that we cant watch you watching us. Im a teacher. And one of the things about Building Community is about being able to watch people listen to you. We need to see your nonverbals and we need to know what is confusing to you, we need to know what you are supportive of. We need to see you nodding or shaking your heads. We need to see you. Right now this is the only way that we get to interact with you as the board of supervisors. And so this is incredibly important and i will be on the call later with the clerk to discuss this as well. I also just want to say to the earlier caller, it is the public who strongarmed the board into defunding and dismantling the police. This is what we want. And a few people calling in to say who clearly have never interacted with police because if they did they would know that the police are an incredibly violent institution, and saying that more police is safer for them when they never interact with the police . It is imperative that you put those comments into context and remember who is saying them, right . Those are the very rich people who are living in houses who never get the drivebyes that we get in the excellsior and never get racially profiled, all of that. So its very important to remember that all of these comments or any comments that wants more police or who says that clerk thank you, the speaker time has elapsed. Just note if you have not already done so, please press star, 3, to be added to the queue. And for those already on hold, please continue to wait until the system indicates that you have been unmuted. At this time we have six callers on the line waiting to speak. Can we have the next speaker, please. Caller hi. I work in San Francisco as a Police Officer. Im also a queer person of color who lives in the mission. I think that a lot of these issues are valid on both points. To the elderly woman who said that shes scared of not having police, thats valid. To the person who just informed that there are problems in the excelsior, thats valid. For the majority of people that thank me every day for patrolling and putting my life at risk, for trying to keep a community safe, how do we reconcile that with the people that feel that the police need to be abolished completely . I think that what needs to happen is that defunding seems like a great idea, but how do we do that prior to having other systems in place . How do we find thousands of Mental Health workers to go to these calls before we have those policies and those laws and though employees put in place . To jump to this moment of saying get rid of the police completely doesnt account for the fact that there are driveby shootings in the excelsior and it doesnt account for the fact that crimes like homicides and rapes and everything that the caller before me stated, those need to be investigated, those need to be dealt with. So abolishing the police right now in its current form is not going to keep our community safer. And while i completely am aware of our history, of our oppression, and the violence that Police Departments around the country have put on the communities they are supposed to serve, that needs to change, but we need to set up a system prior to pointing a finger and accusing every Police Officer in this country of doing harm because thats just not the case. The silent majority of people that i interact with thank me every single day. And that gets left out of the conversation. And like i said, i think that both sides are valid, but we really need to stop for a second and not have a knee jerk reaction and try to dismantle the system before the next system is in place. Weve seen that happen and i clerk thank you, the speaker time has elapsed. Thank you. Hearing from the next speaker, please. Caller im happy to speak immediately after the Police Officer. Its an interesting listening at the end. What i would say here and i say wanting to defund and abolish the police entirely is that i dont think that they make us safer. I dont think that theyre there for the right reasons. I dont think what they do makes our society better. I think that theyre there to oppress us. I think that they have nine out of 62 rapes solved in the last year, but theyve shown up to every protest with brutal military arm, oppressing people at their convenience. Now you gather in this city, you will see the police oppressing. Youre right, they dont have the resources to apparently to be able to address violent crime. Theyre not good at that. They dont have the resources to be able to address homelessness. Theyre not good at that. They dont have the resources or even a division to address vehicle theft anymore. Theyre not good at that. What theyre good at is political oppression and brutalization of civilians. So they do. They politically brutalize us. They disburse us. They prevent us from gathering. There is no reason to have even a single one of those pieces of shit violating, brutalizing our city. We should disburse of them. We should abolish them. The police are pieces of shit. Abolish the police. Theyre violent. This system that we have built is criminally unjust, racially biased, and disgusting. The free world clerk thank you, speaker time has elapsed. Can we have the next speaker, please. Caller my name is mike chan an and im in district 2 and im in support of this Charter Amendment. Weve had this on the books for 20 years and we have not matched it. We should be based on a public conversation and something not based in the charter. Thank you very much. Clerk thank you, can we have the next caller, please. Caller good morning, supervisors. My name is anita and i live and work in San Francisco in district 5. I want to first of all to just echo the sentiments of the previous two callers who so eloquently described why polic policing can be fixed. And i want to thank you for listening to the Community Last thursday and putting the remight haval of the removal of the language of maximizing Police Presence in amendment. This demonstrates San Franciscos values and reflects the data and our lived experiences, which is really important to highlight those two words. Public safety comes from investing in our communities, not criminalizing them. We are calling once again in support of the Charter Amendment to eliminate the sfpd minimum staffing requirement. Recommend this Charter Amendment to the full board of supervisors. We look forward to working with you all to defund sfpd and reinvest in our communities. Thank you. I yield my time. Clerk thank you, can we have the next speaker. Caller oh, hi. So i am also calling in support of this amendment. I do not necessarily support defunding police, but i believe that the police need to provide essential services as the police woman who called earlier about driveby shootings, we do need them for a lot of things. However, there is certainly no reason for having an arbitrary minimum of police. And so certainly an amendment that would allow the city to have the politicsibilit flexibie amount of police and to explore different avenues of dealing with problems in a city and trying to use social Services Social services is great. And so, yeah, i support this amendment. But i do think that the police are essential. I think thats everything that i had to say. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Can we have the next caller. Caller hello, im shawn taylor and a resident of district 9. I wanted to voice my support once again of putting this amendment on the ballot. Thank you to supervisor yee for removing the language that we requested. Thank you also to all of the members of the board that have cosponsored this Charter Amendment. In response to a previous caller i would like to say that i dont think that international cells will target San Francisco because we changed our city charter to allow for Dynamic Police staffing in the city. Honestly i think that theres an argument against this amendment is that the proponents are resorting to big threats of terrorist attacks. And indiscernible thank you again and im looking forward to seeing this on the ballot. Clerk thank you. Can we have the next caller. Caller hi, i am a district 5 resident and a parent. And i want to thank supervisor yee for proposing this Charter Amendment. I am supportive of it, but its a good start. For example, theres still it still allows for converting from sworn divisions to only become civilian if it becomes vacant. For example, as the School District said that we no longer want s. R. O. S in our schools. The police chief said that those decisions simply be moved to other places. And thats not what we want. Because that doesnt allow any funding to be reallocated to youth programs, to violence prevention, to Something Like programs for youth. So those positions need to be removed. We need fewer officers. Thats the whole point of this. So as we said, its a good start. I appreciate you proposing this. I appreciate all of the supervisors supporting it. And i look forward to voting on it. But it needs more work. So thank you very much. Clerk thank you. Can we have the next caller. Caller hi, my name is emily and i live in district 9 and im calling in support of the Charter Amendment and im glad to see this moving to the next step. Thank you for listening to us on this, and thank you for president yee for moving this forward. Im also calling for the amendment to the full board of supervisors to have a minimum staffing requirement. And i see abolition as the road to fully doing whats best for the city of San Francisco. And for everyone in it. When we defund and abolish police, we can have social services, education, and do things that the community really needs. And i dont think that this is a knee jerk reaction. Public safety comes from investing in communities, not policing people, not criminalizing them. So, yeah, defund and abolish the police. And i dont think that defund sfpd now, and i want to thank you the color caucus, for all of the work they have done to make indiscernible in giving people like me to call in for the first time. Id like to echo the sentiments or not the sentiments, like everyone has been asking to you turn your cameras on and you need to do it so that we can see you and see your reactions. And that you can actually show that youre listening to us. Thanks. Clerk thank you, can we have the next caller, please. Caller im a resident in district 11 and there are constant cops patrolling our neighborhood. Thats what we mean when we say they drive by. This neighborhood takes care of each other but the cops are constantly present on in our neighborhood. They have their eyes on neighborhoods that they deem need extra patrolling or monitoring which is basically racial profiling. A cop is a cop and they where they are working. Youre engaging in a racist, violent system. When we defund the sfpd we can use those resources to pay and open up more jobs in Mental Health professions, equitable housing,ette set. By defunding sfpd we are building the system to take care of our community. This is not a knee jerk reaction, unquote. This is a long battle for police and this white supremacist country on this stolen land. This argument for why you should defund and abolish police is built by marginalized communities. It is not new. Most people thank cops because theyre completely terrified of them. We dont need police. We need that money reallocated to real help, help that doesnt kill people or tear gas them during a viral pandemic. Invest in communities, not cops. And, yeah, turn your cameras on so that we can see that youre listening to us and not playing angry birds or stepping away for 15 minutes or tweeting back to people being really defensive, whatever that might look like. And make sure that every single district member is a part of these calls because this is not just supposed to be a Small Committee meeting. This should be an entire countywide meeting for the city of San Francisco. I now yield my time clerk thank you. Can we have the next caller, please. Caller hi. I have an interesting perspective to offer on this. My husband is in Law Enforcement here in San Francisco. And im not willing to identify him publicly. We live in district 8 and supervisor mandelmans district. And we have taken time to reflect on whats happening around the country and here. And my husband will be leaving his job, and while we understand that people are concerned about Public Safety, we dont think that it has to look like armed Law Enforcement or anything that resembles Law Enforcement. So its a difficult decision and reckoning,