Transcripts For SFGTV Historic Preservation Commission 20240712

Well as the live event to the stream. To enable Public Participation sfgovtv is broadcasting and streaming this hearing live. We will receive Public Comment for each item on the agenda today. Sfgovtv should be streaming the toll free call in number at the bottom of the screen. Public comment will be made available by phone by calling that number. 888 2733658. Entering access code 3107452, pressing pound and pound again. When you are connected and would like to submit Public Comment for a specific item on the agenda, bless 1 and then 0 to be added to th to the queue. You will have three minutes. When your allotted time is reached i will direct my staff to take next person to speak. Best practices to call from a quiet location, speak clearly and slowly and mute your television or computer. At this time i would like to take role. President hyland. Here. Commission Vice President matsuda. Here. Commissioner black. Here. Commissioner foley. Present. Commissioner johns. Commissioner pearlman. Here. Commissioner so. Present. Thank you, commissioners, first is general Public Comment. At this time members of the public may address the commission on items of interest that are within the subject matter of the commission. With respect to agenda items your opportunity will be afforded when it is reached in the meeting. You may address the commission up to three minutes. We should open the at t conference line. Your conference is in question and answer mode. Members of the public, this is your opportunity to press 1 and 0 t 0 to enter the queue. Do we are callers . You have one question remaining. This is catherine howard. I dont know if you are aware. D. B. I. Is still going on on sfgovtv. It is not the Historic Preservation commission. I think you are more important, but someone in the basement of city hall thinks other things. The number on the screen is for d. B. I. If people call that they wont get you. It is the 408 number which is a toll number. I wanted to let you know that. Thanks very much. Thank you, i appreciate that. We were informed that ran over we would not be live. We are streaming live. That 408 number is because of the web ex platform that the Building Inspection Commission is using. I will advise members of the public to join us via live stream, not sfgovtv at this time on the television. Do we have any other callers. You have zero questions remaining. That concludes Public Comment. That places us under directors announcements, item 1. Good afternoon, commissioners. Jeff johnson, director of planning. First on behalf of the director i want to thank you for your support for the racial and social equity work within the department and beyond. The resolution you are discussing today was a fast track but passionate response to the responsibility and opportunity to address these issues through the commissions work and through the preservation lens. The goals and benchmarks will help define the Department Work for years to come. They are serving as a model for cities, programs and commissions. Second item. The department supports stellar Intern Program each summer. The program is highly competitive with hundreds of applicants each year for a limited number of positions, all of which are fulltime and paid. Due to this years circumstances the interns are working remotely within the shortened program nine weeks instead of 12 weeks. In terns started june 22 and will end august 21. The interns apply to work on specific projects which are matched to skills and interests. Each intern is paired with a planner mentor in addition to project work there are weekly activities and wore shops to learn about workshops to learn about our planning work. This year there are 15 internals in the Planning Department attending the hearing virtually today. Five of the 15 are preservation interns helping with the citywide survey and contact statement work. The week of august 17th each intern will be scheduled to present during presentation week, the week of august 17th. If you are interested we will provide the schedule at that time should you wish to attend those presentations. The department is thrilled and appreciates this dedicated group of interns with the department this summer. If they are on the line join me in welcoming them to the hearing and summer program. That concludes my announcement. Thank you. Item 2. Review of past events at the Planning Commission, staff report announcements. Seeing no announcements. We will move to item 3. President s report announcements. I have no report or announcement today. Item 4. Consideration of adoption. Draft minutes for june 17, 2020. I do need to make an amendment to those minutes, unfortunately. I have been advised by the Ethics Commission that commissioner foley had not completed his ethics training. As a result he was disqualified from participating in that hearing from june. We need to amend the minutes to reflect that. That is the only amendment. Why dont we take Public Comment on the minutes of the last hearing. Members of the public this is your opportunity to call the 800 number and press one and zero to get into the queue. Do we have any callers . There are no callers. Commissioners that concludes the Public Comment portion of this item. The matter is now before you. Are there any other corrections . I make a motion. Second. Thank you, commissioners. On that motion then to adopt the draft minutes for june 17, 2020 as amended. Commissioner black. Yes. Commissioner foley. Yes. Commissioner pearlman. Yes. Commissioner so. Yes. Commissioner matsuda. Yes. Commissioner president hyland. Yes. That passes unanimously 60. That places us under item 5 commission comments and questions. Anything, commissioners . Okay. We will move on. That places us on item 6. 2016003351cwt resolution centering preservation planning on special and social equity. This is for your adoption. Good afternoon, commissioners. President highland, Vice President matsuda. I am with the San Francisco Planning Department. I will provide you an overview of the resolution. This resolution has been drafted in response to your request to address racial and social equity in our Historic Preservation and planning work. I will share a presentation. As you know, we have a strong team working on this resolution. Alison and shelly, and they have been providing a lot of the details and perspective. This is a resolution that has been drafted at a time when we as the city and as the country are experiencing a major social Political Economic and health crisis. We have lost many lives to covid19. Many times more than many other countries around the world. While we have heard this many times, it is worth repeating on may 25th a Police Officer put his knee on George Floyds neck for more than eight minutes while three other officers watched without stopping this murder. This tragic event triggered major protests across many cities. It hurts not because it was unique or surprise but because it hatched too many times in too many corners of our city and for too many years. Our American Indian people, black people and people of color have confronted our countrys racism for too long. This is not an isolated event. Today we are confronting or government and economic structure that led to this Police Brutality and the impacts of covid19 on American Indian communities and black communities and communities of color. We have a responsibility in our history. I am going to apologize because my computer is not shifting slides. This is shelly, if you would like i can share my screen. I have a power point and pdf ready to go. Now it is working. Sorry about that. You need to share your screen again. We have been struc strugglinh this history for many centuries ago. We experienced genocide and disposition of Indigenous People including todays American Indians. We went through the laundry ordinance red lining, japanese incarceration, urban renewal, predatory relending and exclusionary zoning. This has impacted our communities of color. You can see in the map the impact of covid19 concentrated in neighborhoods where we have a concentration of communities of color. We have experienced displacement and outmigration of the various communities. We have our communities of color have had less access to home ownership, quality education, health care and jobs. If you look at the numbers, right now we have. 3 of the San Francisco population identified as American Indian. This is down from. 5. 53 of inmates in San Francisco county jail are black. 95 of the people who tested positive for covid19 in the Mission District were latin x. More specifically, when we look at our Historic Resources, we need to flag that we have historically underrepresented many of our communities so less than 10 of San Francisco landmarks are designated for the cultural applications with native american, black, asian, Pacific Islanders. Lat inx or lbgk combined. The 5,000 entries on the National History of Historic Places only 2 are black. They made up approximately 1 and 2 of Historic Preservation and conservation students awarded degrees in 2017. Now we are not starting from zero. You have been supporting the racial and social Equity Initiative that was adopted and we are moving to the phase two. That gives us a solid platform to carry some of our work. In terms of general plan, we are bringing this component of racial and social equity into house and transportation element, preparing Heritage Conservation and also addressing Environmental Justice across all elements in the general plan. At the Community Level there are targeted efforts in the cultural district you have been working on, the initiative and housing affordability. There are many level which we are addressing racial and social equity, however, this is not enough. This resolution flags some areas where we can the strengthen ourk everything it is not when we see the communities of color in our Historic Resources. This first slide summarizes some of the bullets originally adopted by the Planning Commission on june 11, and it starts with racial social equity plan strengthening the work to assess budget, addressing hiring and promotion practices and Building Greater accountability through metrics and reporting. We are also calling for policies and programs to address economic and housing recovery from the current pandemic. We are also prioritizing racial and social equity starting with the housing element, which is the first element that we are focusing on. In a broader effort expanding our Community Engagement and increasing funding to ensure that we have Community Representation in the process. There are additional components that were added to this resolution that relate specifically to our Historic Preservation commission in three major areas. There is agraph of research and publication. Completing the historic statements that we have started and creating an inconclusive research and evolution process. In terms of Historic Research designation best practices for preservation of intangible resources, prioritizing legacy designation in under served communities and assessing the resource. You are also calling in this resolution greater access to funding and education and Training Needs to ensure a popular presentation among Historic Preservation consultants and professionals. As the resolution posted we have received comments from various communities, including the American Indian cultural district representative. Those are summarized in this point that flag or ask for more explicit acknowledgment of the land. It calls for the specific harm inflicted on American Indians beginning with compensation. Wwe will be revising and doublechecking the data for the American Indian community and adding more information about the status in youth of the africanamerican Historic Context statement. This includes comments also from one of the contributors to the africanamerican statements. We also received a note from the cultural district in support of this resolution. Karen kai and so this is just a summary of the information we have received. We will be happy to address any discussion or additional adjustments you might want to consider. As i indicated at the beginning, employees are available to address any questions that you might have. Thank you. Thank you. Does that conclude staff presentation . Yes. We should open this up for Public Comment. Okay. Your conference is in question and answer mode. Press one then zero to summon a question. Members of the public this is your opportunity to get in the queue by calling the 800 number and pressing one and zero. You have four questions remaining. Hello, commissioners, i am david woo with the filipino Cultural Heritage district. It is great that you are passing the resolution for the Historic Preservation work and resource and equity recognizing the discriminatory practices. This is the Heritage Housing strategy report and Historic Preservation is being considered as an important strategy and tool. There are many sites south of market including housing and other spaces that are important for the community to protect to sustain the past and current living history. From 2000 to 2010 the filipino population declined from 10,000 residents to 5,000. We need to protect the spaces where they resided. Ththe process of Historic Preservation must be funded. The wealthier interests are the first to be preserved. There has not been a mechanism in place for an equity framework to make sure that preservation can be done at a Community Level. We look forward to seeing substantial and lasting changes made to the mannin planning com. The Community Planning and needs at the forefronts of Decision Making and planning. This presents an opportunity for collaboration to prioritize preservation work that takes an equity framework. We look forward to working together. Operator you have four questions remaining. Caller this is woody from San Francisco heritage. We appreciate the effort put into this resolution and look forward to being a constructive partner as the Department Works witwith positive outcomes. The Legacy Business Program is not highlighted in this document. It is a preservation activity within the scope of the commission. Landmark designations honor and celebrate the past and preserve the physical structures. This may aid in the injustices here and accomplice what needs to happen. The Legacy Program provides direct to the community. I am thinking of the filmore, jazz room on third street, specifically. Included with this resolution should be a call to strengthen increasing funding and streamlining the legacy framework to focus on racial and social equity. It is the completion of the africanamerican context statements. We understand it requires more outreach and conversation with these communities. We encourage to help with that. This draft resolution notes there are steps in the right direct and mention of this commissions long Standing Committee should be listed here somewhere. Heritage is a stakeholder. Preservation has to be inclusive and equitable. There is a lot more to talk about. More importantly a lot of real work to be done. Immediate action beyond the whereas in this resolution. We are here for that, too. Thank you to everybody involved in planning for work on this and for bringing its for ward. Operator you have four questions remaining. Good afternoon. I would like to endorse the resolution centering the preservation on racial and social equity. It is a noteworthy document detailing the Racial Disparities in the city and county and how communities of color are impacted by systematic racism. Api has the resources significant to asian and Pacific Island americans through preservation work. We hosted the film. It was the first held in 2010 and returned a few years ago in 2018. In 2018, our National Forum highlighted the international hotels, the museum, chinatown. We also celebrated the San Francisco strikers. We honored the commissioner matsuda for leadership in the city. During the Forum Participants learned about efforts being done here in the city including the cultural district and also the legacy of the racist policies in the asianamerican communities in San Francisco. We learned about the diversity of these communities as demonstrated in chinatown as well as other places in the low income areas. People from across the country were eager to learn about the groundworking in San Francisco. They continue to. [indiscernable] the japanese ywca and eligible for the register. These were the examples in the community. [indiscernable] they demonstrate the impact of the racist policies and the resilient communities and the cultural vibrancy. It is a resolution and recommendation. [indiscernable] to focus on racial and cultural equity and look forward to learning about your progress in these efforts. This is an opportunity for the city to forge a new path forward in Historic Preservation, one that other agencies may look at a model for addressing racial equity. We look forward to working with you. Thank you. Operator you have three questions remaining. Caller i appreciate the efforts of the commission to like more racial and social equity in preservation, i dont quite understand what the end goal here is. Certainly what the people who are protesting for black lives matter are asking for is an end to Police Brutality and better social conditions, better economic and social conditions for black and indigenous and those of color. I dont see how Historic Preservation is going to do a whole lot to help that. Also, you know, what counts as, you know, preservation centered around racial and social equity . If you look at the filmore. At one point it was a jewish neighborhood, then japanese neighborhood, then africanamerican neighborhood. Now it is a fairly affluent mix of largely caucasian neighborhoods. If you were to designate the areas in the filmore as historically significant based on jewish or japanese or africanamerican, who would that benefit . Is it to be based on what the original inhabitants, racial and social situations were or based on the current demographics of the neighborhood . I dont understand what this resolution is to do and who is to benefit. I dont know. I dont see what you are doing here. I am out of time. Thank you. Operator you have two questions remaining. Caller i am paul. I appreciate this resolution. I appreciate the Historic Preservation committee for this hearing. I would like to say that an important part of Historic Preservation that the committee and the work they are engaged in considering the history preserved and what stories are being told. I would like to direct our attention to two specific mon youments in the city. One of them is the dewy memorial and the other is the spanish canon. I think both of those are, you know, monuments to conquest and empire that, you know, created the cycle of displacement that filipinos experience to this day and it is still happening south of market. Just for the city to have these monuments that lion ize those events and present an incomplete telling of events and the emotions experienced by the people that were involved in these histories, i think it is falling short of what Historic Preservation should be about. I will leave it at that. I definitely support the engagement of the monuments around the city. What they might mean to people who have lived outside of, you know, the culture for centuries. Thank you. Operator you have two questions remaining. Caller i am with the American Indian cultural district. I wanted to echo a couple of comments in addition to ones written. When we talk about Historic Preservation it is important to start with American Indian community. You have been doing a better job with working with the city to do that. Before we start in the preamble, some of my suggestions are before we Start Talking about White Supremacy we should talk about the fact we are founded on native american land. I dont want to take away from our brothers and sisters. It is important. To compare and contrast and elevate those communities i recommend doing separate sections to address those impacts to the native american and black community in the beginning of that. Also, i wish there was a clear commitment in the resolution to work with native American People, address the current harms and gather accurate data which we are working on with the city. Lastly to follow the state out of respect and the Governors Office when you conduct the meetings as Historic Preservation. That is my suggestion. I want to say every time you put American People second you are talking about communities of color, we are minimizing that impact. When we believe nativeamericans outofdate take point, there are data points of communities of color where they are left out. I want to go back to the directors announcement. This is a model for other peop people. [indiscernable] that data is not accurate. [indiscernable] it is going to make a major impact down the line. Thank you. Operator you have one questn remaining. Caller . Why dont we take the next caller. Hello. Good afternoon, commissioners, i am rachel. Culture administrator. The filipino Cultural Heritage district. I am calling to commend the commission on adopting the resolution on racial and social equity. I am grateful to the partnersh partnership. The city in partnership with communities that are named in h. P. C. Racial equity district has the history of violence that legislation not centered in the community we continue to be impacted by. Because of the displacement and red lining that occurred,. [indiscernable] educators, families, youth and new comers to ensure the needs are advocated for. As we finalize the cultural housing and Sustainability Strategy mandated we recognize that the resources and funding needed to support these strategies is the sustainability of the community. We need partnership of the city, tools, research, documentation to preserve the cultural aspects. To ensure racial injustices and inequalities will not repeat itself. One of the principles is respect history, make history. We determined one of the strategies is the support of the program is place keeping using public art to make sure existing upcoming public artwork are maintained is crucial to honoring the experience in San Francisco. Thank you for this step towards equity. We look forward to preserving and creating history. Operator you have zero questions remaining. Commissioners, that concludes Public Comment portion of this hearing. The matter is now before you. I just want to start by thanking staff, specifically mary ann and allison and shelly and commissioner matsuda for pushing us forward. It is a lot of work accomplishe in a very short amount of time and the results are phenomenal. Thank you for all you have done and accomplished. Commissioner matsuda, do you want to start . Yes, thank you. I also really want to give a big, big shout out and words of strong appreciation to shelly. She was only given a few days to put this together, and i personally do have a lot of comments to add and she had to sitomake it appropriate for this resolution. I appreciate the comments just made. You know we are human. I particularly got very emotional about this. I wanted to put in whatever i could, but listening to you, i know that we have forgotten some things. Heritage made a good point about not including something about the legacy businesses. We are historic. We talk about history that we can preserve. Legacy businesses help us to do that. I would like to see thattic sentence or paragraph can be added. Strengthening the program through funding and other resources, i think the comments from the filipinos organization as well as the Asian Pacific islander were also very good. We really need to make sure we find a better way to document and to, i think, marian had a slide that talked about Historic Resource designation. One word to add about that is expand. What we have now is a working knowledge of certain communities, of certain districts. We dont have that depth. When we look at what kind of institutions are preserved and stories told, unless we have that data and the history from our community to really find out who lived in these communities and who will continue to live, we need that data. I see that missing when we do reports about landmark designations or calling specific buildings proposed for some type of alteration. We never get the real depth who used to live there and the importance that particular building or community will within the city history. I would like to see that as well. The comment about why the Historic Preservation is getting involved in making a resolution about social and racial equity. It is very clear who has benefited so far have not been the American Indian community and black community and community of color. When we look at the economic incentives, political and cultural incentives out of the city and county of San Francisco there is benefit to the white community. Those have not trickled down to communities of color. We with the word history in our Commission Name need to recognize people of all history. That is why i feel this is very important, a kind of landmark step we are taking as a commission to put forward these initiatives. I hope that other commissioners agree this is a great way to start. We have work to do but we are all willing to do that. Thank you. Anyone else . Commissioner pearlman. Thank you. I also come to this from the physical side of history where for my indoctrination into architectural history has been through the buildings, of course, and monuments and in particular the current topics that have been happening over the massachusetts mont past mon. This is so enlightening. I had very little understanding of this, being a white person growing up in america in the late 20th century, and this has been, of course, i have been in San Francisco over 30 years. I am well aware of the different communities that we are looking at and addressing now that hadnt been addressed before through the contact statements and cultural districts that are formed and are in process. One of the things that i find very interesting and enlightens is how we are going to look at the physical element of making our community more just so the memorials, monuments, we dealt with the early days, part of the pioneer monument. There is one of the be it resolved that talks about a richer public dialogue, engaging our commission with the arts and rec and Park Commission and Human Rights Commission. One of the first things to do is subcommittee of members of the different commissions to really start to look at what is our inventory of public representations . One caller mentioned the dewy memorial and Christopher Columbus statute torn down and the physical defaming of the father and other monuments and the city. We are seeing it across the country. It would be very interesting and part of our charge based on this resolution that we put together both the physical monuments and sculpture and memorials along with naming. There is a lot of issues around the naming of public plazas. This came up with the justin her man plaza. I know there are many others to look at. I really am impressed with the work the staff has done and this is taking us in a direction that most of us when we started careers decades ago probably many of us were completely unaware of the injustices baked into our society as it stands. Thank you for that. Commissioner black. I just want to say that i strongly support this. We really need to complete hose historic contact statements. It helps us tremendously to have that understanding of the areas and the neighborhoods in which we are going to make decisions going forward. Also i support landmarking legacy businesses in underserved communities. I think we could do a better job focusing on those areas as well. Commissioner pearlmans concept of the subcommittee is quite interesting. The reason i support that is that no matter what we do today there will always be some fine tuning that needs to happen. If we are going to be a nationwide leader on Something Like this we need to get it right. Getting it right involves more Community Input and more people thinking about it and fine tuning it so it really is an excellent model for the community and certainly for us moving forward. Commissioner so. I would like to say i am very proud of our Planning Department and the staff that are working tirelessly for years and months and also commissioner matsuda pier heading spearheading the effort. I cant be more proud to be joining in this historical moment just to be in support of this. Living through my entire life as trained architect and being a woman of color, it is not a small feat to navigated what it means. We can do more than we have done. I am proud we are not only looking at just a space or any particular element but broader picture. How do we allocate resources to make sure that we are eliminating economic disparity among all of our communities, the fabric of San Francisco. It has been underrepresented. I like to call on having more resources allocated to minority groups, black, lat tinos, asian, nativeAmerican Indians and the others that we might have forgotten or not know how to represent. My biggest thing i would like to point out is that we would need to do more on education piece on the outreach of the number of professionals that are specifically having the in depthictheexpertise in the hist. If you look at minority groups, wwe are all. [indiscernable] how do we define the matrix to moving forward . What stories do we need to preserve and carry on to the legacy for the next generations. I am in full support of this resolution. I really agree with commissioner pearlmans recommendation to form a subcommittee. We are not doing this alone. We have to do this in a multidisciplinary and approach among the commissions and agencies to make a more relevant impactful movement, and i am happy to be here today seeing this coming to fruition and i appreciate everybody effort. I fully support all of this, you know. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner matsuda. I do like what commissioner pearlman wanted to suggest about being more formal. I think more proactive about working with other commissions, and i was appointed by president highland to serve as liaison for our commission to work with, particularly the cultural district and to work with the office of Small Business for the Legacy Business Program, but with the commissions permission i have no problem reaching out to be the leader to outreach to other commissions and have a formal dialogue, to start discussing this. [please stand by] are able to capture the dialogue in a way that doesnt create a procedural hurdle that many of the community because of that they wont be able to join us. So i think thats it. I would like to maybe have staff come back with a request for us to open our hearings within the an acknowledgement that we [indiscernible] and i think thats a good idea. I just want to know how to what we need to do to go about doing that. It would be good if they do. I dont know if you can check into that and get back to us at future hearings. I think youre on mute. I wanted to address your question concerning land ac mothme mothment acknowledgement and would like to summarize your feedback and understand how we can amend the draft resolution. We can return. Sure. Shellee, if we could i think commissioner foley and pearlman have additional comments. Do we want to take those first and then come back to summarizing. Happy to. So commissioner foley, did you want to speak. I would. Id like to say when i first joined this commission i went to the racial and social equity training with the Planning Department and Planning Commissioners and the Historic Preservation commissioners. I was amazed by the work theyve done and what the planning staff had been working on around these issues for years and im proud to be here with all of you. Im just a basic white guy. And id like to call out to president matsuda for the work around these issues and spent so much time and energy focussed on all these things. Thank you to the planning staff and to Vice President matsuda. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner pearlman. I just wanted to follow up quickly, commissioner hyland, i wasnt recommending we had a formal committee of the hpc. I guess what i was suggesting is somewhat along the lines of what commissioner matsuda said in the one resolution theres the one paragraph that says the Historic Preservation commission supports the removal of monuments commemorating racialin justice and calls on the different commissions to partner in the dialogue and treatment and interpretation of such monuments in San Francisco. I dont know if that is specifically a Staff Committee but i guess what i was seeing was somehow we are interacting with the other commissions so that were really contributing the substance around history and around not losing our history because were taking away something that obviously had meaning in history and today may have a different connotation. Again, i dont know if commissioner matsuda is a representative or theres a staff person but somehow we potentially take the lead in creati creating a forum for public dialogue and, obviously series more discussion in how we form the be it resolved paragraph to make that more formal. Thats where i was going with that. Good idea. Can i get all five commissions total. Im happy to followup on that to see what the procedural challenges are to do that, to see if we have any legal issues about the brown act and anything else to make sure that we are doing things properly and that we clearly involve Community Input. Thank you. So shelly, did you want to then go over your summary . I fully support this resolution and would like to move it forward. Im not going to make a motion but i would like it to be moved forward today so we can start implementing some of these things. Thank you, commissioner hyland. Ill start by addressing your question about the land acknowledgement statement. I think staff would be happy to work with some of our Community Contacts to draft a statement for the commissions consideration and have a discussion at the future hearing how to incorporate that into your procedures whether at the opening of each hearing or when making certain project approves, etcetera. Were happy to help assist with that. In terms of what you might consider for amendments, today to the draft legislation before you, there were some suggestions from the Public Comments we received in writing and during the Public Comment input period today both from several different including the American Indian cultural district. We listed a couple key edits we think that would be important to make concerning data and concerning history is formed to the American Indian community are presented within the draft resolution and we would like to acknowledge the letter from Carl Williams considering how the African American concept statement is described within the resolution. Wed like to perhaps emphasize the importance of finishing that work and explain how that becomes a foundational for equity for that community particularly. And from your discussion i wanted to note your continued interest in trying to find resources for the Legacy Business Program. I know that you issued a letter to the mayor, copied the Economic Recovery Task force regarding the issue and we could reiterate some points you made in the letter for the resolution if you think that is appropriate. Time following up on commissioner matsudas idea on being a liaison to other commissions regarding the monuments and public spaces discussions. I wanted to point out that we were following the direction of the mayors directive which came out weeks ago regarding the issue and called on the Human Rights Commission and Parks Department and the Arts Commission to hold public dialogue. We wanted to invite them to that conversation [background noise] im going to shut the door. Ill be right back. Sorry about that. And looking at my notes now, also we discussed earlier to better document the histories [background noise]. So shelly, are you thinking we have editing to be done known resolution before we actually pass it or do we have enough information to include the edit in the motion . If i could id suggest the motion include an amendment that allows the hpc officers to work with staff to incorporate into the discussion held today and presented in Public Comment and to finalize the resolution between staff and the officers. Great suggestion. Commissioner black . No, proceed with what the officers want to do. Anything else, shelly . Or commissioners . I move we approve this. Second. Thank you commissioners. Theres a motion seconded to adopt the resolution as amended directing staff to continue work the hpc officers on final language. On that motion, commissioner black. Clerk yes. Commissioner pearlman. Yes. Commissioner so. Yes. Commissioner matsuda. Yes. Commissioner hyland. So moved the motion passes unanimously 60. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, shelly. Commissioners that will place us under consideration of items proposed for continuance. Item 7 appears in error but we can include it and continue to august 19. It will just have to be placed on august 5th agenda as well on july 1 without hearing notice of cancellation of continuance actually noted this was delayed to august 5. So we will include it in that agenda as well but item 7 case 2018009197coa is proposed for continuance to august 19, 2020. Item 8, item 2018013643co to september 20th. Item 9 is proposed for indefinite continuance. Further is the regular calendar items 11a and b for cases 202 2020oo 5179pca is a certificate of appropriateness and consider the variance but there was a noticing issue with a poster not being up for the appropriate duration so it will need to be continued to august 19th. I have no other items proposed for continuance and we should take Public Comment. Lets take Public Comment. I understand well do the continuances listed in addition moving the item 11a and b to the continuance. Right. You cant consider it because of the poster not being up. We need to continue that to august 19. Any Public Comment on continuances . Your conference is now in question and answer mode. To summon each question press 1 then 0. Again, members of the public this is the comment period. Caller this is Katherine Howard and i support the continuance of item 9 the standard environmental requirements it should not be heard until the public can consider the serious ramifications of this proposal. Thank you very much. Okay. Commissioners that will conclude the Public Comment portion and the matters are now before you. Any comments or motions, please . Move to approve. Second. Were just continuing matters. Right. Second. Thank you on that motion to continue items as proposed, commissioner black. Yes. Commissioner foley. Yes. Commissioner pearlman. Yes. Commissioner so. Yes. Commission president hyland. Yes. Clerk so moved. The motion passes unanimously 60. And places up on the regular calendar for last item 10 case number excuse me. Is the Zoning Administrator with us to continue item 11b, if not, mr. Joslin can you act as the acting Zoning Administrator . Please continue the item as stated. Clerk commissioners that will place us on item 10, 2020005179pca continuing of the use of certain non conforming parking lots and missions street neighborhood commercial transit district. Ill remind people to mute their microphone. We have a lot of background noise. Somebodys making a sandwich or Something Back there. If you can mute your mic, that would be great, thank you. The floor is yours. Thank you. The item before you is the continuation of use for certain non conforming parking lots in the Mission Street neighborhood commercial transit district. T there are speakers here known item. Whenever your ready. Thanks, very much. Unmuting. Good afternoon, commissioners. Thank you for taking the time to hear this item today. My name is amy binard im an aide for the proponent. The cafe is an extraordinary property in the heart of San Franciscos Mission District. While the interior has been damaged and altered over time the facade is stunning and stretches for about a third of the block. And it still remains intact. Thank goodness the city had the good sense to landmark it 30 years ago. On the ground floor an operating floor in the two upper floors the interior of what was once a theatre is gone. In its place is a much used parking lot operating as a non conforming temporary use and the legislation would allow that use to continue for five years. In the midst of the Public Comment is closed theres no Viable Development on the horizon at least with the conforming historic site. It would be a disaster to blight the area with an unused parking lot and we cannot eliminate parking at this time. The legislation will allow a very defined period of additional time to allow a Viable Development plan that celebrates and preserves the historic significance of this magnificent landmark property and i want to thank planning staff Veronica Flores for her work on this and on behalf of supervisor ronin i recommend you approve this legislation for approval and im available for questions. Thank you. Thank you, amy. Just wanted to come up also and just advise again the parking lot is located in the historic El Capitan Theatre and hotel site and the ordnance would allow this parking lot non conforming parking lot to continue for an additional five years beyond the current expiration date. I just wanted to emphasize the parking lot itself is [indiscernible] however, the ordnance pertains to the same parcel designated as a city landmark which why were in front of you today. This means any alteration or construction or any new project on the parking lot will require architectural review by the a. R. C. And discussion over the parking lot site compared to other parking lots not on designated city land marks. To date the city has not received correspondence regarding the ordnance. The Department Recommends the commission approve the proposed ordnance because it supports the commerce and industry elements goals and supports existing commercial businesses and supports the Mission Areas goal for non conforming uses that benefit the neighborhood and the ordnance would help prevent a vacancy on the street which is a concern and the corridor especially under the covid19 circumstances. This concludes staff presentation and again we are both available to answer any questions. Thank you. Thank you, veronica. We should go to Public Comment and open the at t conference line. Clerk again, members of the public this is your opportunity to call into the 800 number and press 1 then 0 to enter the queue. Do we have any callers . No callers. Clerk okay. Commissioners that will conclude the Public Comment portion of this matter and it is before you. Thank you. I move to approve. Thank you. I second. Seeing no request to speak theres a motion thats been seconded to approve this code amendment. Veronica, wouldnt it be adopting a recommendation for approval. Thats correct. Clerk commissioners, on the motion to adopt a recommendation for approval commissioner black. Yes. Clerk commissioner foley. Yes. Clerk commissioner pearlman. Yes. Clerk commissioner so. Yes. Clerk commissioner matsuda. Yes. Clerk and commissioner hyland. Clerk that passes unanimously this places us on the final item 12 case number 2019006264des for 1315 waller street. A resolution [background noise] clerk please mute your microphone. Were experiencing a lot of background noise. Francis, the floor is yours. Good afternoon, commissioners and historic planning staff and we have a designation for the application and the city of San Francisco has been made available to make comments. The location is south side of waller street. The property is a twostory front gable roof building. It feature as a garage at street level and recessed angle on the first and second floor. It has ornate ornamentation. Ill stop for a moment and share my screen and photo of the building to reference. Can you see my screen . The building is one of the four waller street houses con trustrd in 1896 and the subject property is known as winter and locate at the front. According to the National Register nomination the john a. Whalen house is significant under the area of Community Planning and development for the period of 19th century residential period in the haightashbury neighborhood and its locally significant under cry tore criterion c and an example of the style. It features a prominent gabled roof, canopy windows and originally ornamented facade for the period 1906 and con cloud with the john a. Whellen property. The department interviewed a similar application submit the property owner. Staff determined it didnt have the level of significance under article 10 of the planning code for individual city landmark. The Department Recommends the applicant conduct Additional Research on aspects of the property with the developer john a. Whelan and for the haightashbury neighborhood and explore article 10 landmark district comprised of the waller street four seasons property. Following the review after extensive consultation they were not supportive of the landmark district and they decided to pursue an individual listing for 1315 waller street. National register nomination largely addresses this. The department supports the individual listing on the National Register and notes its one of a group of properties and the district nomination would support all four developments on the waller neighborhood. Its significant under the c criterion a in the haightashbury neighborhood and the department agrees the property meets the criterion c for design. Theres no known opposition to the individual listing of the property to the National Register. The neighbors request the program and staff request the commissioner review the National Registry nomination and provide comments on whether the john a. Wha whalen house may recommend or not recommend or recommend the nomination be revised and the resolution is in your packet and then be forwarded to the office of Historic Preservation. This concludes my presentation. Im available for any questions you have and will now turn over the presentation for a brief overview of the nomination. I believe she is calling in. This is christina. Can you hear is the can you hear me . Yes. I have a brief presentation based on what francis has described based on our findings of significance for 1315 waller street. Francis, if you can advance the slides thatd be great. If you get to the second slide as francis mentioned we found this property to be significant under National Register criterion a and for architecture. Under criterion a we found the john a. Whelan house is significant in Community Planning and for the representation of the Peak Development of the haightashbury in the late 19th century. To elaborate on that a little bit more the development of the haightashbury neighborhood really peaked in the late 1800, 1880s to 1890s. When cable car lines and Recreational Amenities were completed and speculators and Real Estate Developers constructed Single Family residences and it shifted of the either quake earth wake there was an influx of earthquake refugees. The 1315 waller street was constructed in 1896 by Real Estate Developer john a. Whelan and its part of four now known as he four seasons and was his personal family home until they moved out for the first 10 years. Next moving to criterion c, as france is mentions we found francis found this is an excellent example of the queen ann style and likely constructed by john a. Whelan himself in collaboration with an unknown carpenter. It embody the popular queen ann architectural style of the time late 1880s to late 1800s and a symmetrical facade, angled bay windows, richly ore ornamented facade and the differentive snowflake centerpiece create visual landmark. We identified the period 1806 to 1906. This signifies the completion of the house when the original owner and builder whelan moved out of the house and marks the transition period in the haightashbury neighborhood with Development Shifting towards commercial projects. And despite some alterations to the rear facade and front steps we found this building retains all aspects of integrity. To summarize our National Register nomination process we prepared this nomination in november to december of 2019, submitted it to the office of the Historic Preservation in early december. We received the request for information from ohp and addressed the comments in mid december and it was focussed on formatting, technicalities and clarifying the contextual questions. It was slated for may but postponed until august 14 due to covid19. So that concludes my presentation. Im happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you. Thank you. Francis, do you have anything further . I have no additional comments. Thank you. Ill go ahead and take Public Comment. Clerk again, members of the public this is your opportunity to call into the 800 number and enter 1 then 0 to be added to the queue. Do we have any callers . We dont have any callers. Clerk okay. Commissioners that will conclude the Public Comment portion of the hearing. The matter is now before you. Commissioner pearlman. I just had one comment on this. I think its a shame the other owners are so reluctant to enter into some agreement to create a small district there because i used to dry past this on almost a daily basis and theyre all in really good condition, all four of them in general and they are incredibly unique. Among the victorians that we have in San Francisco i appreciate the owner who wants to move forward with this one but not that the other ones will necessarily be lost but it would be a fine collection for representing that period in San Francisco victorian history. So i certainly endorse this for National Register. Thank you. Any comments from other commissioners . I had a couple questions for staff. Can you just for the benefit of the commission explain the eligibility for National Register but not for landmark status here in San Francisco. When we received the article 10 landmark application last year it wasnt as well developed as the National Register nomination is so its based partly on that evaluation of the materials submitted. So the criteria is similar in events and significant people and design. Again, in this case, because of the outreach with the neighbors and this was tied together with the milsap application and the best way is to pursue National California register listing. It has to be listed in the direct and thats part of the original pursuit was local listing and on the National Register to qualify. So the other three properties are not interested in being listed nor on any registers. They would not be eligible . No, and i believe they wouldnt benefit from the milsap and the majority of our outreach and discussion was over over the article 10 but they wouldnt benefit from milsap. Because none of these would fall under article 10 or 11 would be a in the rating system. They are categories b rye not. Right now. Are can check but if there was a major project theyd go through the evaluation process. I can confirm that. The ceqa review process internally can only be because they havent been atestified. Still it wouldnt go before us. Thats correct. Any other comments or motion . Motion to adopt the resolution . Second. Clerk seeing no further deliberation theres a motion thats been seconded to adopt the resolution supporting the nomination. On that motion, commissioner black. Yes. Clerk commissioner pearlman. Yes. Clerk commissioner so. Yes. Clerk commissioner matsuda. Yes. Clerk Commission President hyland. Yes. Clerk so moved it passes unanimously 60. That concludes your agenda today, commissioners. All right. So we are adjourned. Stay well, everyone. Okay. Take care. Thank you. Roughly five years, i was working as a high school teacher, and i decided to take my students on a surfing field trip. 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