We dont want rookie paramedics out there doing this very important job. We want to do it by fall of this year. We want four units up by the fall of this year. Extra units is going to require extra training and hiring. Please let me know if im saying anything that is amiss. No, youre not. First i saw no getting the six units by februaryfor is that a yes, not . Im sorry, are you speaking to me . I think the question was if you could get the units up by february. I think that he said he could get four units up by the fall; is that correct . Ive known chief nicholson for a long time. She wanted to know that we could get started in the fall of this year. Extra units takes more time. Two additional would be february march of next year. This is all crucial information for the budget. Were figuring out how to cover this cost with the current budget. When we start its crucial to figuring out how were going to be doing that. This is crucial to figuring it out. Im sorry, supersizor. I want to make sure that i dont speak unilaterally. Ive been talking to everyone and they have their ends to work to get ramped up too. I dont want to make unilateral statements without them. Of course, were working with them constantly on this. Theres the uth side and Fire Department side. I want to understand from the Fire Departments side what the time line would be. Youre saying its february march of next year. Thats very helpful. Beautiful. The two command vehicles we were just discussing be used and necessary for this purpose . Yeah. I spoke to the services folks sm they will be in use by ems. Krts it its not a maybe, it. When we ramped up ems6 last year. We got the personnel but not the equipment. We were really scrambling what they could drive around in and it wasnt pretty. Thank you. Those are all my questions. Thank you. Your very welcome. Supervisor walton. What is the amount truck is proposing to reduce . Was that your only question. On both the dph side and the fire side, are we seeing any money for vehicles for these additional four or 16 . Or are we recreating the problem you had last year that didnt give you trucks to put them in . Supervisor, we need a van with a wheelchair lift, we need several of those. They would be able to help everyone. Your 2 million would include funding for all four of those . Mark, could you speak to this . At this time, it includes funding for two of those van units. Okay. Is that because its going to be out in shifts . I believe its because of the schedule that will be rotated amongst the team for all coverage. Thats exactly right. It will be hot swap vehicles. Community response euns within n the van. About the fire truck source one point four million, the question i have would be would the prototype change or were testing one prototype and ready to good in . Are you changing specs or what . Ill let chief fellow answer. Normally swre a set of specs. We have minor modification dollars sm i miss spoke earlier. The stakes would be pretty much the same. Once we start off with everything we do in the city, we make the order and nothing changes from that. The changes had with the search order that we get. All the changes we identify are approved, way deal with that specs. So i guess my question, ill ask it another way. If we were to allow this to go through, would you just order another truck that come pretty quickly. Im getting a better understanding of why it was delayed. Could it be from the same company that out weighed the rest of them. If i may speak to that to the chair. We havent had funding for so long on the trucks. We were starting from scratch. That really took quite a while. Right we dont have to to that again. Yes, we are under under contract with them the recommendation is to deny the purchase because over last five years the city has funded six trucks through last year. This would be a seventh truck. Got it. For me im probably not going to agree with that. I heard the reasons why it was delayed. The question, a wil a lot of the trucks in the red i have a question about the command vehicles. As part of the budget was[indiscernible]. You were budgeted for five last year and purchased all five. Was there any money left in the budget left i have one last question. Yes. Absurd this aerial slide. We have old trucks that i have no way of knowing if thats a prb or how big of a problem it is. Were in a budgest the chart of old is not of itself enough for me to know that were way out of line where a Fire Department should be or if theres some sort of objective way of measuring according toll steps, fire, or sms we shouldnt be using those at all. I think thati just wanted to say that i think what supervisor said is really true for our time. Were in a deficit. Ive been meeting with homeless folks and people who have been hit hard. 200 ho200,000 people have been t hard in San Francisco. If its so absolutely necessary that we couldnt actuallywhen we find out about our budget for the next year to do a supplement appropriation at that time to add to your fleet versus now when so much is unknown. Ize think thati dont think anyone is saying that another aerial ladder truck is not needed for our Fire Department p. I dont think anyone is saying that another aerial ladder truck is an unnecessary expense. I think what were saying here is that is it an expense that can be delayed a year or two years. That is the question thats before us today. Also, i would say the same thing for the command vehicles. I understand we have 19 command vehicles and youre looking for two more. Could you allocate two vehicles for the command six. And could this be delayed for another two years. Im asking you Fire Department. I remember when you said we need some of the ambulances. You might remember this conversation. We havent had ambulances for a long time. They are small, maneuver better. We didnt give her all but we gave some. When people are hungry, things are slammed. We look at inefis efficiencies d allocate it to the poor. Thats where the bulk of our money goes. Thats the question today, Fire Department. Could you do without one command vehicle instead of two . Those are the kind of questions. I know we have some other thipg it ponder also about the Fire Department. Look at where you could cut savings of the aim amount but from a different pot. I think we should hold off on this decision until you stand firmlywhat you see on this boardits a deep appreciation for everything that the Fire Department does. Were not disrespecting or diminishing everything that you do. What were asking is that is it a necessary expenditure at this time. We ask that the Fire Department come back after they work the bla to look at the reallocation. I see that you are on the screen. Following this item. Related to travel and training. I didnt mean to interrupt you. Is there anything that we need to finalize this particular budget . Its a smaller point that i can certainly come back and given you are are suggesting to raise the travel to training. Its an interesting one that i had not considered until now. I believe theres an administrative provision change to bring to the board. Well plan to do that next week for your consideration. Okay. Fire department were go to go see you next week any way. Lets finish this deliberation. We understand that you are fighting hard. I just wanted to reiterate your thanks to the Fire Department. Ive seen your work firsthand. Fire services, we have Fire Fighters in other counties. These things are close to home as well. Par pa. We know that they noty depend on the Fire Fighters of San Francisco. We keep that in mind when reconsidering your budget. If we have consensus well ask the Fire Department to come back and take a final vote on it. Thank you for coming today and gave younow were entering our discussion with the San FranciscoPolice Department. Chief scott. Are you joining us . Hi. Can you hear me . Yes, we can hear and see you chief. Welcome. I think you heard earlier in the day. My opening remarks. I think the process of us is set up to be somewhat advers adver s is our commitment actually to ensure that the budget really reflects the needs of the hard working people who actually feed this budget. We agree with number four. We dont agree with one, two, or three. The poddy worn pham ra cut. Three thBody Worn Cameras. He. As far as the Body Worn Camera cut. It amounts to the difference of understanding how the City Accounting system functions. It speaks specifically to the Carry Forward that we dont believe provide means to determine those cuts. Because theres a lot that goes into that that i dont think was could haved by the cuts i do have direc directorthey will ah the end of their useful life by the end of this year. It will decrease normally. The battery is considered to reach the end of its useful life. The risk would be very high that the camera wont be able to record useful footage because its unpredictable and worn out. It will not be able to capture sm we believe in the bla analysis explain forth. I want to explain the differences between what our figures show and what the bla recommendationwhat the bla is base pg theibasing their recomm. The slide that were sharing presents what our budget has been for the last three years and what we expended. Starting 15, 17, 18 are fiscal year we expended tw poin one, there were thrais in the seven year program. What you see is 2020. We had a five thousand dollar. This money was scheduled to the Body Worn Camera. To have a p pi want to next spheek the bla recommendation number two on the materials and supply ses. The bla materials and supplies. The way that the Accounting System calculates what you yourtheres 83 terp 83if you r smenspend in one category and dt exceed your appropriation authority youre still okay, your balanced. What i want to show is that the two items that the bla had identified, the other Office Supplies and uniform. Thats two items in the material and plies of fifing we spent two the party budget. What i want to mention is for the uniform line item, the bla stated that the department saving of six hundred thousand dollars. We spent about half of that. Thrdz several mps about ththey. The new contract was not finalized until may 1, 2020. A period of four months where departments could not encumber any additional line iet ems for requests sm the other itereques. The other item i wanted to address is the six hundred thousand dollars in savings. Theres approximately five number a large part of that bnsz is related to Airport Academy classes. In terms of the other items if i some manytheres about 55 account codes that also roll up into were thoughtful for the food and the shelter for any of the personnel that was responding during their deployment period. For the uniform contract after the city issued the Term Contract at the beginning of may. Were not able to encumber or fulfill requests for items because we exhausted our appropriation authority. For those reasons. That is why there is that elicit stating for uniforms. If you look at what we had actually september for fiscal year 2020. The savings dont actually exist. The last item that i want to make is that covid 19 is still going to persist through the end of fiscal year 21. With the deferredwere really offering at a position of a deficit starting out. For the next item im going to pass it back off to chief scott. Poor lart item i wanted to pin out is our uniform budget is about one percent. In comparison to other budgets ware curious to know what other r cities. The department doesnt agree with that recommended cut. I want to speak to thea q two step one rate. The second point is the cuts to the a cat my classes, i believe, we believe are able to pre void. The matrix staffing using in praying woar ow of that p 65f. These occur by more personet if we go it mofepersonnel. We feel e understanding and the like are operating at a deficit. Those jobs and that work still needs to be done. The current maybors budget. These are diversity goals. As you see the slide on the screen this is the diversity of our incoming recruits or the last ten years. As you can see fromback up one slide. You can see from 2007 to 2019 its shifted to almost the seven percent rate for people of color. A forty six percent rate just 12 years ago. If we are faced by the cuts of attritionif the scenario equated to layoffs of two hundred of the people with least evenority in the department. Using the last in, first out. You see the demographic currently. White, had as panic, asian. If we were to have to cut two hundred officers, you see what that demographic on the right hand side looks like. You see how many officers we would actually be using. Forty two asian officers gone. Twentyone brak off everybody s board asking you to grow the Police Department. Were asking you to stay with the reenvisioning how we deliver Public Safety seven ises to our city. This slide is just as you can see our full time equivalent comparison this is where we lie to be if we reduce our a damny. Theres a couple of unknowns in there that like. We home thats our ask for this committee is to really consider our desire to keep our department at at least city levels. The impact would be devastating in terms of our ability to deliver Public Safety and handle the public work load. This slide is in terms of Public Safety report. The other thing eye like to high height of rerm sthshes administrative oversight and systems and those types of innings foinningreform. It takes staffing. Sworn and unsworn staffing. They are constantly telling us that not only Getting Better at but need to get better at. In order to sustain these efforts, its hard it implement rea rm praik sm wheimplementsth. We are not top heavy. We are the right size for our Police Department. Ill stop there and answer any questions you have. Could you please have a brief report from the c la because i think that the chief has brought up many issues about the bl resmtions. I want them to opinioned to what they are saying. , with it have tw one at the chief sides is the police dujet and Body Worn Camera budget. When that happens, the unspent money gets rolled into the following year. This accounts for that airy forward amount and reduce the budget based on their actual spending which accounts for the total available budget that they are getting in the proposed budget and also carrying it forward. They are not getting to 900,000 in spending. The materials and design budget is not changing in the design budget the Police Department had three Police Academies in 2020. They are only budgeted for two. Each academy at 250,000 we had information reported to us that the material cost was as much as 500,000. These two cuts amount to one point five eight Million Dollars out of a total budget of the police dujet. We do think they are reasonable. We dont think they are going to impact services. They are based on information that was provided to us by the Police Department. Ill say finally the policy recommendation that were recommendingtheres two. One is the library which the department agrees with. The other is consider canceling the march 21 academy. Theres already commitment to evaluate the work load of the Police Department and move some of that work load. We dont know what the staffing needs are. The study that they are siting assumes calls for service. Move that work load out of the dep. I think its important to consider that report. We worked with the Controllers Office for what the joint academy would cost. I stand behind what is reflected in our report. Im not sure what the Police Department is referring to. They are based on a joint analysis. Thats basically it. You can see the two point nine Million Dollars because most of the academy is occurring in that year. They become in that airy. Im going to go to the queue. First i just wanted to say chief, i know you have a tough job. Members of the department have led to extremelyhow many recommendations have complete logos from the 272 . We havelet me be very careful. The way this works and does work. We have Compliance Standards that were a dpreed upon all part partners. They california d r o sixty nine has been completed. Thirteen will be completed no the next many months. The prk wri dont want to givey the recommendationother work is being done out side of those 58. Thrdz a lowere doing a lot of r things. Many of the work is foundational there is several that are applied on that. I just want to be clear that we are imetting there. From work load perspective we have a lot ofi am having issues with wrk load. As as i have overtim overgivinga hos never be content with average because its just as close to the bottom as it is to the top. I believe that the overtime quut should equalwe should pe cutting oot least invest something that is in good no i truly believe its unacceptable particularly with the urgency that weve seen with Law Enforcement. This is no sec receipt to you that i hope my colleague i dont think think this what is yr thn between the cost of 21 and 22. I dont think bla is going far enough particularl particularlye have a charrer. Coming up witcharter. We should h bigger cut from the academy cost. Thats 23 almost 24 million. If we go percentage on performance if we talk about work loads. We need most of that. I believe 90 percent of that to be somewhere else. If we had had to layoff, why cant we layoff racist, prejudice, murderous cops that a