Transcripts For SFGTV Historic Preservation Commission 20240

Turn off your video camera. Sfgov tv is streaming this hearing live. The Building Inspection Commission hearing is running a little long. It is not live but it is streamed live. We will receive Public Comment for each item on todays agenda. Communities or opportunities to speak during the Public Comment period are available by calling 415 6550001. And turning access code 146 0887048. When we reach the item you are interested in submitting Public Comment for, press star then 3 to be added to the cue. Each speaker is allowed three minutes. When you have 30 second remaining you will hear a chime. I will announce your time is up and take the next person to speak. Best practices call from a quiet location, speak clearly and slowly and please mute volume on your television or computer. We will take roll at this time. President hyland, Vice President matsuda. Here. Commissioner black. Yes, i am here. Commissioner foley. Yes. Commissioner johns. Yes. Commissioner pearlman. Here. Commissioner so. Yes. Thank you. First on your agenda is general Public Comment. At this time members of the public may address the commission within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission except agenda items. Your opportunity to address the commission with respect to agenda your opportunity will be afforded when it is reached in the meeting. You may address the commission for up to three comments. This is your opportunity to get in the queue by pressing star 3. Indicate you would like to submit under general Public Comment. I see no members of the public to speak at this time. We can speak to department matters. Item 1. Directors announcements. I am here to note that we forwarded to all of you a one page document that we thought would be handy to have that outlined our preservation management duties and programs we have throughout the department in current planning, longrange planning, Community Equity as well as Environmental Planning with the key manager running on that. If you have any questions about those programs over the coming months, that should give you a one stop shop for the manager to reach out. Before i turn it over to rich, i did want to introduce two planners you have not had before you. First up we have melanie bishop. She is a planner on the designation team. She started as intern in 2019 working on citywide survey. Before joining the department she completed fellowships with the National Park service in d. C. And chicago planning and department. The seconded is gg on the northwest quadrant. She is an intern with the citywide survey team in june last year. She became a fulltime planner joining current planning in june of this year. Gg has a bachelor of arts in geography and San Francisco native. I will turn it over to rick with a few legislative and policy up updates for you. Good afternoon. I want to give you a quick update on some items that occurred at the board of supervisors. Lion martin house was passed recommending and initiating the landmark designation. Within 90 days of tuesday the Department Staff will bring forward the nomination. The seconded item update is tomorrow. Planning commission will be reviewing one of the first phases of the power station project. You will remember that you reviewed this through Environmental Review document last year. The developer is moving forward with an Office Allocation and rehab project for the station a building the large power plant structure. They have engaged with hertzog to create a new office piece for the project. If you are interested please stay tuned. That is all of our announcements. Thank you. Thank you, rich. Commissioners, if there are no questions of staff, we can move on to item 2. Review of past events at the planning commission, staff report announcements. I believe those have been made. We will move to item 3. President s report and announcements. No report or announcement today. Very good. Item 4. Commissionments and questions. Seeing no requests from commissioners, we will move to consideration for items proposed for continuance. Item 5. 2020003248 m. C. A. State mandated accessory dwelling unit controls to november 4, 2020. Would anyone like to make a motion . Shall we take Public Comment on this . I apologize. We should take Public Comment. Members of the public this is your opportunity to speak to the item for continuance by pressing star and three. There is no Public Comment. It is closed. I move we continue to november 4th. Second. Thank you. On that motion to continue item 3 as proposed commissioner bla black. Yes. Foley. Yes. Johns. Yes. Pearlman. Yes. So. Yes. Matsuda. Yes. Commission president hyland. Yes. So moved commissioners. That is 70. Regular calendar 6 a, b, c, d, e afternoon f. 2020008542lbr, 008543lbr, 008540lbr, 008541lbr and 0008538lbr foresee sar chavez. 2025jerrold avenue, 2201 sutter and 412 valencia street. These are all legacy. Is staff prepared for presentations. Yes. Katie with planning staff. We have six legacy businesses to present today. Three planners to present. Each planner will present two and after the business representatives will have an opportunity to speak on their own behalf during Public Comment. Is i will begin with secret studios. 38yearold music recording in district 10. Because of the San Francisco dense housing stock, musicians are afforded the same grand band spaces. The bay area needed a space for artists to rehearse and record. They have filled this gap for 40 years. It has been used by many musicians from jerry garcia and mac fleetwood. As important the studio served the local community from the bay area legends to enthusiastic hobbyists. They have been there to serve them all. The studio is active in the community provided space for neighborhood meetings, rehearsals and jazz and donated equipment to Mission District festival for over 30 years. Owner is committed to safeguarded the business use as music rehearsal so the bay area Music Community can continue to work on their craft and cultivate musical creativity. We recommend the business be added to the legacy business registry. Next is for washington vegetable. Wholesale produce founded in 1931 on washington street. After almost 90 years washington vegetable is no longer located on washington street. It is now on jerrold avenue. The values and dedication are strong. Four generations after founding the business is Still Family Owned and operatedded. San franciscos close proximity to the most productive produce helped form identities of culinary capital of the world and cutting edge of healthy food trends. One of the oldest individuals of the produce market. It provides edible fuel to the Cultural Heritage. Washington vegetables has a century worth of dedication to the high end culinary tradition of the food scene. It also voices food as a vital resource that not everyone has access to. Washington vegetable feels strongly about giving back to the community and donates to the variety of charities and food banks. Staff is supportive of this application and the historical traditions. These are the name, location, operations, related to the Business History and philanthropic ventures. Next planner. Good afternoon, commissioners. Melanie bishop, planning staff. Next business for the association of Northern California, lyengar yoga in district 5. Originally founded in 1975. It was created to promote Yoga Education in Northern California in an accordance with techniques the recognized figure of yoga. The association has been located at the current building at 2201 sutter street since 2014 where they provide teacher training and Community Classes for all level including seniors class. They also offer scholarships each year to continue making yoga accessible to the Community Despite financial constraints. The association is committed to safeguarding the business use of the studio and mission to provide the range of yoga classes and opportunity for Teacher Education to the public. The staff supports this application and resolution recommending the business be added to the legacy business registry. The next business application is for monroe motors incorporated, motorcycle sales and service in district 8. The business is operated in San Francisco for 62 years and is located at 412 valencia street. It is the oldest motorcycle dealership in San Francisco. The history is referred to as motor row due to the presence of several motorcycle related accidents there throughout history. It is an active member of the Community Supporting italian days. The patrons of the motors include daredevil evil kinneyval and jim marshall and actor nicholas cage. They are committed to safeguarding use as motorcycle sales and service establishment. Original triumph lighted flames, participation in Community Events and Customer Business model. Staff supports the application and resolution recommending it be added. That concludes my recommendation. I will turn it over to gg. Good afternoon, commissione commissioners. This legacy application for the 38yearold mexican sit down restaurant and bar. Popular with everyone from politicians to residents. It has been a Gathering Place for eating and getting together since 1982. They have been owned and operated by the family since it first opened serving traditional food from mexico including tammalis,en which law does and salsa in the traditional dining room and interior designed by the family. Not only have they remained a staple in the neighborhood but also a consistent employer of marginalized groups such at lbgq and latin x population. They were one of the trailblazers for the restaurant movement providing legal workshops for Business Owners and employees about legal rights. They have been a longstanding donortor dbgq plus and institutions and events in the soma neighborhood. Staff supports this application and resolution recommending the business be added to legacy business registry. The final is in district 3 north beach. The San Francisco fifth oldest existing restaurant in is noter beach neighborhood for the 134 year history. It reflects the rescities of northern itally. Pasta, soups, fruits and meats and creambased dishes. They have occupied five locations in north beach since 1886. It is located in the sanramo hotel. It operated out of a tent in 1906 serving soup. They have been a culinary staple throughout the history. Countless patrons of cultural significance bank of america founder, former president richard nixon. Tony bennett and Robin Williams and other musics and politicians. While fior italia served many it has given back to its neighborhood participating in events and hosting and donating food to local organizations. Staff is supportive of this application and resolution recommending the business be added to the business registry. This concludes staff presentations. We are available to answer any questions. Thank you. That concludes staff presentations. We should take Public Comment. Members of the public call the 415 number and enter access code and press star and three. We have several callers. I am karen woods, executive director of the yoda association of Northern California. Thank you for the opportunity to become included. We are part of the history and culture since 1975. During these challenging times we are working hard to remain so for another 45 years and beyond. We were the first Yoga Teacher Training Program in the country instrumental in spreading yoga. We are acknowledged for bringing yoga that we provide is focused on accessibility and therapeutics. He published over 30 books on the subject of yoga translated to many languages and was recognized by Time Magazine in 2004 as one of the most infromential in the world. We have a Loyal Community of volunteers and donors within San Francisco and those who travel from all over the bay area, country and world t to visit our center which is beautiful and welcoming. We offer classes, wok shops and Free Community programs. Classes for the elderly or those with physical injuries. In response to the pandemic we went virtual with all classes. A community was grateful to Stay Together virtually during shelterinplace. Our classes for those who live alone provided a lifeline. We have been able to secure wages for teachers and staff with ppp loan and donor support tto to ensure yoga was availab. We created a Hardship Fund aphadded two 10 classes each week. We wanted to ensure members would have the support of yoga to get through the difficult times. These are a blessing. We have a history in San Francisco. We continuously operated since 1975 out of several locations throughout the city from marina, sunsets to the Current Location in Lower Pacific Heights on the western addition. We are a member of the filmore merchants. We are adjacent to medical adjacent to medical centers and using yoga as an important tool in the treatment and recovery of ms, parkinsons, cancer, depression. Hypertension and other conditions. It is our hope with the legacy designation we will distinguish ourselves as valuable asset of San Francisco and give needed assurance to our donors regardless of future challenges we are committed to our mission and doing whatever we can to continue to be a vibrant part of the great city of San Francisco for many years to come. Thank you for your time and consideration. My fathers favorite food was a hot dog and i said i needed to find a place to take my uncle and my aunt to celebrate and remember my father and eat a hotdog. And he said, dont worry, i will find you the place. I spike to the grounding that the city has in its people and celebrating its culture between. Test test test test test test test test test test test compliance for egress purposes. Next slide, please. This slide takes the proposed front railing detail and as an example that the project strives to maintain and preserve the architectural features of the building. At this point id like to introduce the Property Owners. Thank you. Here we go. Hold on. Ill try this. Does this work . Yes, were here. We can get them now. not seeing captions on live stream . distortion youve got a really bad echo, kate. distortion youve just got to put your phone on speaker next to your microphone on your computer. Maybe ill have them call in to the Public Comment line. Your five minutes is ive paused your time so you have 30 seconds. We will wave our time. Great. Thank you. Appreciate that commissioners may have question for you. That concludes the sponsors presentation, we should open up for Public Comment. Members of the public, again, this is your opportunity to speak to this item by pressing star and 3 to get into the queue. Commissioners, i see no members of the public requesting to speak at this time, so we will close Public Comment and let you take up the matter. Commissioners, anyone . Commissioner pearlman. Commissioner pearlman sure, ill take it on. I think this project is very welldeveloped. Obviously an incredibly difficult problem to solve with a building that is so wedged in on three sides, but the changes to the building are almost invisible. Certainly when this is done, there will be no visible change, so i think we should approve this project with conditions. I would move to approve this project with conditions. Second . Great, commissioners. Thank you. If there are no other comments, theres a motion that has been seconded to approve this matter with conditions. On that motion, commissioner black. Commissioner black yes. Commissioner foley yes. Commissioner johns yes. Commissioner pearlman yes. Commissioner so yes. Vice president matsuda yes. President hyland yes. So move commissioners. That motion passes unanimously 70. If the administrator could opine on the variance . Thank you. To close the public hearing and grant the requested variances noting noncompliance conditions justifying that variance. Thank you. Thank you, mr. Sanchez. Commissioners, that places us at item number 8. 2020008,490des . Commissioner, youd like to be recused . Yes, id like to be recused, please. I move that the commissioner be recused . Second. Recuse commissioner matsuda. Commissioner foley yes. Commissioner johns yes. Commissioner pearlman yes. Commissioner so yes. Vice president matsuda yes. President hyland yes. So moved, commissioners, and commissioner matsuda, you are hereby recused. I will take this opportunity to remind you and the other members of the commission that when you do need to recuse yourself, even if you are not present at the hearing, is the new law thats been in effect for almost two years now, you need to still submit written documentation to the Building Inspection Commission<\/a> hearing is running a little long. It is not live but it is streamed live. We will receive Public Comment<\/a> for each item on todays agenda. Communities or opportunities to speak during the Public Comment<\/a> period are available by calling 415 6550001. And turning access code 146 0887048. When we reach the item you are interested in submitting Public Comment<\/a> for, press star then 3 to be added to the cue. Each speaker is allowed three minutes. When you have 30 second remaining you will hear a chime. I will announce your time is up and take the next person to speak. Best practices call from a quiet location, speak clearly and slowly and please mute volume on your television or computer. We will take roll at this time. President hyland, Vice President<\/a> matsuda. Here. Commissioner black. Yes, i am here. Commissioner foley. Yes. Commissioner johns. Yes. Commissioner pearlman. Here. Commissioner so. Yes. Thank you. First on your agenda is general Public Comment<\/a>. At this time members of the public may address the commission within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission except agenda items. Your opportunity to address the commission with respect to agenda your opportunity will be afforded when it is reached in the meeting. You may address the commission for up to three comments. This is your opportunity to get in the queue by pressing star 3. Indicate you would like to submit under general Public Comment<\/a>. I see no members of the public to speak at this time. We can speak to department matters. Item 1. Directors announcements. I am here to note that we forwarded to all of you a one page document that we thought would be handy to have that outlined our preservation management duties and programs we have throughout the department in current planning, longrange planning, Community Equity<\/a> as well as Environmental Planning<\/a> with the key manager running on that. If you have any questions about those programs over the coming months, that should give you a one stop shop for the manager to reach out. Before i turn it over to rich, i did want to introduce two planners you have not had before you. First up we have melanie bishop. She is a planner on the designation team. She started as intern in 2019 working on citywide survey. Before joining the department she completed fellowships with the National Park<\/a> service in d. C. And chicago planning and department. The seconded is gg on the northwest quadrant. She is an intern with the citywide survey team in june last year. She became a fulltime planner joining current planning in june of this year. Gg has a bachelor of arts in geography and San Francisco<\/a> native. I will turn it over to rick with a few legislative and policy up updates for you. Good afternoon. I want to give you a quick update on some items that occurred at the board of supervisors. Lion martin house was passed recommending and initiating the landmark designation. Within 90 days of tuesday the Department Staff<\/a> will bring forward the nomination. The seconded item update is tomorrow. Planning commission will be reviewing one of the first phases of the power station project. You will remember that you reviewed this through Environmental Review<\/a> document last year. The developer is moving forward with an Office Allocation<\/a> and rehab project for the station a building the large power plant structure. They have engaged with hertzog to create a new office piece for the project. If you are interested please stay tuned. That is all of our announcements. Thank you. Thank you, rich. Commissioners, if there are no questions of staff, we can move on to item 2. Review of past events at the planning commission, staff report announcements. I believe those have been made. We will move to item 3. President s report and announcements. No report or announcement today. Very good. Item 4. Commissionments and questions. Seeing no requests from commissioners, we will move to consideration for items proposed for continuance. Item 5. 2020003248 m. C. A. State mandated accessory dwelling unit controls to november 4, 2020. Would anyone like to make a motion . Shall we take Public Comment<\/a> on this . I apologize. We should take Public Comment<\/a>. Members of the public this is your opportunity to speak to the item for continuance by pressing star and three. There is no Public Comment<\/a>. It is closed. I move we continue to november 4th. Second. Thank you. On that motion to continue item 3 as proposed commissioner bla black. Yes. Foley. Yes. Johns. Yes. Pearlman. Yes. So. Yes. Matsuda. Yes. Commission president hyland. Yes. So moved commissioners. That is 70. Regular calendar 6 a, b, c, d, e afternoon f. 2020008542lbr, 008543lbr, 008540lbr, 008541lbr and 0008538lbr foresee sar chavez. 2025jerrold avenue, 2201 sutter and 412 valencia street. These are all legacy. Is staff prepared for presentations. Yes. Katie with planning staff. We have six legacy businesses to present today. Three planners to present. Each planner will present two and after the business representatives will have an opportunity to speak on their own behalf during Public Comment<\/a>. Is i will begin with secret studios. 38yearold music recording in district 10. Because of the San Francisco<\/a> dense housing stock, musicians are afforded the same grand band spaces. The bay area needed a space for artists to rehearse and record. They have filled this gap for 40 years. It has been used by many musicians from jerry garcia and mac fleetwood. As important the studio served the local community from the bay area legends to enthusiastic hobbyists. They have been there to serve them all. The studio is active in the community provided space for neighborhood meetings, rehearsals and jazz and donated equipment to Mission District<\/a> festival for over 30 years. Owner is committed to safeguarded the business use as music rehearsal so the bay area Music Community<\/a> can continue to work on their craft and cultivate musical creativity. We recommend the business be added to the legacy business registry. Next is for washington vegetable. Wholesale produce founded in 1931 on washington street. After almost 90 years washington vegetable is no longer located on washington street. It is now on jerrold avenue. The values and dedication are strong. Four generations after founding the business is Still Family Owned<\/a> and operatedded. San franciscos close proximity to the most productive produce helped form identities of culinary capital of the world and cutting edge of healthy food trends. One of the oldest individuals of the produce market. It provides edible fuel to the Cultural Heritage<\/a>. Washington vegetables has a century worth of dedication to the high end culinary tradition of the food scene. It also voices food as a vital resource that not everyone has access to. Washington vegetable feels strongly about giving back to the community and donates to the variety of charities and food banks. Staff is supportive of this application and the historical traditions. These are the name, location, operations, related to the Business History<\/a> and philanthropic ventures. Next planner. Good afternoon, commissioners. Melanie bishop, planning staff. Next business for the association of Northern California<\/a>, lyengar yoga in district 5. Originally founded in 1975. It was created to promote Yoga Education<\/a> in Northern California<\/a> in an accordance with techniques the recognized figure of yoga. The association has been located at the current building at 2201 sutter street since 2014 where they provide teacher training and Community Classes<\/a> for all level including seniors class. They also offer scholarships each year to continue making yoga accessible to the Community Despite<\/a> financial constraints. The association is committed to safeguarding the business use of the studio and mission to provide the range of yoga classes and opportunity for Teacher Education<\/a> to the public. The staff supports this application and resolution recommending the business be added to the legacy business registry. The next business application is for monroe motors incorporated, motorcycle sales and service in district 8. The business is operated in San Francisco<\/a> for 62 years and is located at 412 valencia street. It is the oldest motorcycle dealership in San Francisco<\/a>. The history is referred to as motor row due to the presence of several motorcycle related accidents there throughout history. It is an active member of the Community Supporting<\/a> italian days. The patrons of the motors include daredevil evil kinneyval and jim marshall and actor nicholas cage. They are committed to safeguarding use as motorcycle sales and service establishment. Original triumph lighted flames, participation in Community Events<\/a> and Customer Business<\/a> model. Staff supports the application and resolution recommending it be added. That concludes my recommendation. I will turn it over to gg. Good afternoon, commissione commissioners. This legacy application for the 38yearold mexican sit down restaurant and bar. Popular with everyone from politicians to residents. It has been a Gathering Place<\/a> for eating and getting together since 1982. They have been owned and operated by the family since it first opened serving traditional food from mexico including tammalis,en which law does and salsa in the traditional dining room and interior designed by the family. Not only have they remained a staple in the neighborhood but also a consistent employer of marginalized groups such at lbgq and latin x population. They were one of the trailblazers for the restaurant movement providing legal workshops for Business Owners<\/a> and employees about legal rights. They have been a longstanding donortor dbgq plus and institutions and events in the soma neighborhood. Staff supports this application and resolution recommending the business be added to legacy business registry. The final is in district 3 north beach. The San Francisco<\/a> fifth oldest existing restaurant in is noter beach neighborhood for the 134 year history. It reflects the rescities of northern itally. Pasta, soups, fruits and meats and creambased dishes. They have occupied five locations in north beach since 1886. It is located in the sanramo hotel. It operated out of a tent in 1906 serving soup. They have been a culinary staple throughout the history. Countless patrons of cultural significance bank of america founder, former president richard nixon. Tony bennett and Robin Williams<\/a> and other musics and politicians. While fior italia served many it has given back to its neighborhood participating in events and hosting and donating food to local organizations. Staff is supportive of this application and resolution recommending the business be added to the business registry. This concludes staff presentations. We are available to answer any questions. Thank you. That concludes staff presentations. We should take Public Comment<\/a>. Members of the public call the 415 number and enter access code and press star and three. We have several callers. I am karen woods, executive director of the yoda association of Northern California<\/a>. Thank you for the opportunity to become included. We are part of the history and culture since 1975. During these challenging times we are working hard to remain so for another 45 years and beyond. We were the first Yoga Teacher Training Program<\/a> in the country instrumental in spreading yoga. We are acknowledged for bringing yoga that we provide is focused on accessibility and therapeutics. He published over 30 books on the subject of yoga translated to many languages and was recognized by Time Magazine<\/a> in 2004 as one of the most infromential in the world. We have a Loyal Community<\/a> of volunteers and donors within San Francisco<\/a> and those who travel from all over the bay area, country and world t to visit our center which is beautiful and welcoming. We offer classes, wok shops and Free Community<\/a> programs. Classes for the elderly or those with physical injuries. In response to the pandemic we went virtual with all classes. A community was grateful to Stay Together<\/a> virtually during shelterinplace. Our classes for those who live alone provided a lifeline. We have been able to secure wages for teachers and staff with ppp loan and donor support tto to ensure yoga was availab. We created a Hardship Fund<\/a> aphadded two 10 classes each week. We wanted to ensure members would have the support of yoga to get through the difficult times. These are a blessing. We have a history in San Francisco<\/a>. We continuously operated since 1975 out of several locations throughout the city from marina, sunsets to the Current Location<\/a> in Lower Pacific Heights<\/a> on the western addition. We are a member of the filmore merchants. We are adjacent to medical adjacent to medical centers and using yoga as an important tool in the treatment and recovery of ms, parkinsons, cancer, depression. Hypertension and other conditions. It is our hope with the legacy designation we will distinguish ourselves as valuable asset of San Francisco<\/a> and give needed assurance to our donors regardless of future challenges we are committed to our mission and doing whatever we can to continue to be a vibrant part of the great city of San Francisco<\/a> for many years to come. Thank you for your time and consideration. My fathers favorite food was a hot dog and i said i needed to find a place to take my uncle and my aunt to celebrate and remember my father and eat a hotdog. And he said, dont worry, i will find you the place. I spike to the grounding that the city has in its people and celebrating its culture between. Test test test test test test test test test test test compliance for egress purposes. Next slide, please. This slide takes the proposed front railing detail and as an example that the project strives to maintain and preserve the architectural features of the building. At this point id like to introduce the Property Owner<\/a>s. Thank you. Here we go. Hold on. Ill try this. Does this work . Yes, were here. We can get them now. not seeing captions on live stream . distortion youve got a really bad echo, kate. distortion youve just got to put your phone on speaker next to your microphone on your computer. Maybe ill have them call in to the Public Comment<\/a> line. Your five minutes is ive paused your time so you have 30 seconds. We will wave our time. Great. Thank you. Appreciate that commissioners may have question for you. That concludes the sponsors presentation, we should open up for Public Comment<\/a>. Members of the public, again, this is your opportunity to speak to this item by pressing star and 3 to get into the queue. Commissioners, i see no members of the public requesting to speak at this time, so we will close Public Comment<\/a> and let you take up the matter. Commissioners, anyone . Commissioner pearlman. Commissioner pearlman sure, ill take it on. I think this project is very welldeveloped. Obviously an incredibly difficult problem to solve with a building that is so wedged in on three sides, but the changes to the building are almost invisible. Certainly when this is done, there will be no visible change, so i think we should approve this project with conditions. I would move to approve this project with conditions. Second . Great, commissioners. Thank you. If there are no other comments, theres a motion that has been seconded to approve this matter with conditions. On that motion, commissioner black. Commissioner black yes. Commissioner foley yes. Commissioner johns yes. Commissioner pearlman yes. Commissioner so yes. Vice president matsuda yes. President hyland yes. So move commissioners. That motion passes unanimously 70. If the administrator could opine on the variance . Thank you. To close the public hearing and grant the requested variances noting noncompliance conditions justifying that variance. Thank you. Thank you, mr. Sanchez. Commissioners, that places us at item number 8. 2020008,490des . Commissioner, youd like to be recused . Yes, id like to be recused, please. I move that the commissioner be recused . Second. Recuse commissioner matsuda. Commissioner foley yes. Commissioner johns yes. Commissioner pearlman yes. Commissioner so yes. Vice president matsuda yes. President hyland yes. So moved, commissioners, and commissioner matsuda, you are hereby recused. I will take this opportunity to remind you and the other members of the commission that when you do need to recuse yourself, even if you are not present at the hearing, is the new law thats been in effect for almost two years now, you need to still submit written documentation to the Ethics Commission<\/a> within 15 days, i believe it is. Commissioners, we should hear from staff. Ms. Mcmillen, are you prepared to make your presentation. Yes. Can you hear me . We can, yes. Okay. And is my presentation up on the screen . Not yet. Not yet . Okay. Ill try it again. How is it now . No. No . All right. There it is. There we go. Apologies for the delay. Good afternoon, commissioners. Im with planning Department Staff<\/a>. Before you today is the departments recommendation regarding landmark of the ymca located at 1830 sutter street in japantown. In 2030 the property was added to the Landmark Program<\/a> as part of the endorsement of the japan Cultural Heritage<\/a> and Economic Sustainability<\/a> strategy. Most recently, in 2019, the hpc reviewed. The nomination was prepared as part of a National Park<\/a> service underrepresented communities grant awarded to the department. The property was listed on the National Register<\/a> in january of this year. As noted in the executive summary and detailed in the National Register<\/a> nomination included in your packet, the japanese ywca issei womens building was and with lgbtq history and with lgbtq civil rights movement. The building is significant as an excellent example of the architect julie morgan. In 1912, San Francisco<\/a> ywca was the First Independent<\/a> japanese ywca in the united states. Japanese women were barred by segregationist policies from the use of the facilities of the citys main ywca building. In response, issei established the ywca to address the needs of the community. Completed in 1932, 1830 sutter was funded through donations from ywcas around the country and San Francisco<\/a>. According to the National Register<\/a> nomination, the property appears to be the only building purposebuilt for issei women in the united states. During world war ii, people of japanese descent were incarcerated. The building was turned over to the ywca and leased from 1942 to 1959. During this period, the building was the location of the San Francisco<\/a> chapter of the committee on racial equality and the site of meetings, gatherings, and events to advance africanamerican and lgbtq rights excuse me, lgbtq civil rights and other political and social causes. They were developing nonviolent strategies in the sevenweek course of the building and used the property as the center of its organizing activities while in the bay area. The Buildings Association<\/a> is what the nomination characterizes as two powerful connections to lgbtq history. It has been reclaimed as an important figure in lgbtq history and the apartment he lived in from 1962 until his death in 1987 is listed on the National Register<\/a> of Historic Places<\/a> for his work on important campaigns and nonviolence, activism, civil rights, human rights and lgbtq civil rights. The japanese ywca building is further connected to lgbtq history through the buildings ties to the pioneering lgbtq rights organizations. In 1954, the societys First Convention<\/a> was held at 1830 sutter. Finally, the building is significant as an excellent example of the work of the architect. Of the more than 700 buildings she designed during her prolific career, 30 were for the ywca and located throughout the country. The period of significance 1932 to 1959 encompasses the date of the buildings construction through the American Friends Service<\/a> committees relocation to another site. The designation addresses one of the historic preservations four Priority Areas<\/a> for designation which includes the designation of properties associated with underrepresented racial, ethnic and social groups. Currently landmark 288 is the only other city landmark specifically related to japanese american history. Several properties associated with African American<\/a> and lgbtq history and culture and buildings associated with womens history are among the citys landmarks but they remain underrepresented among designated buildings and sites. The Property Owner<\/a> has been notified and is supportive of the landmark. There is no opposition as an article 10 landmark. This concludes my presentation and im happy to answer any questions. We have a representative of the owner and would like to speak to the designation. Are you prepared to make your presentation . Yes. Okay. You will have five minutes. Thank you very much. My name is karen ky and i am here on behalf of the owner of 1830 sutter street, also known as the japanese ywca or issei womens building. This has been a really long path. The owner became the owner of the building in 2002 after Community Effort<\/a> to regain it, and actually i noticed from the designation report became added to the Landmark Program<\/a> in december 2013. And i dont know if thats really long to you as the process, but for us, it seems like its been a long time but its been very fruitful and productive, one that has taught us a great deal about our building and our community and our ties to other communities, and its also one that has been eventful, as ms. Mcmillen noted, achieving National Landmark<\/a> status, or register status, i should say, before achieving San Francisco<\/a> landmark status. And to us, though, this is very important and significant. Being recognized in ones own hometown is always very meaningful, and im also very pleased to see that the commission included in the official title the issei womens building because the National Register<\/a> did not. And to us, this landmarking is truly a recognition of our issei women, the first generation who came, who faced incredible racism, who raised funds at the height of the Great Depression<\/a> in order to build this building, and who then faced internment and diaspora, and on their return were not even able to reform their organization. They found friends in the buchanan ymca who said come and then to celebrate the opening and making a steady landmark of a building that has all Women Artists<\/a> in the building. Weve just come up with a proposal to reuse the building. And if the City Landmark Commission<\/a> wants to be involved, fine, but you know, we want to move forward. I think it should be a city landmark. Im puzzled why when i ask specific questions about the project, staff does not give me answers to this question. These questions. And i dont understand why. Im happy to give the people the right to landmark report, but its hard to do when you dont get answers from staff. So i hope they move this to the top of the list. Thank you. Sorry, i was on mute. Members of the public, last call for Public Comment<\/a>. Seeing no request to speak, commissioners, the matter is now before you. Great. Thank you. Do you want to start . Matter commissioner matsuda i know this is not something that has been ignored by the planning department, but i and i think one of the reasons may be because this particular building involves a number of different city entities, is that correct . Hi, marcel, can you hear me . Yes. Thanks, yes. I want to acknowledge that we have received comment from richard rothman. So there were a lot of that 10 years ago the Department Gave<\/a> us a letter to informing them that the building had been added. There are also other properties on the work program so that over the time, we have been working on moving through the work programs. So, the structure of the ownership is that recreation and parks and the zoo have oversight. The zoo is under jurisdiction of rec and park and the zoo is operating a lease. So there are two oversight bodies. The department has been in recent communication with rec and park to some degree remind them there is interest, there is public interest. So although i dont have a response yet about moving forward with the landmark nomination, i can say that we are engaged in a conversation. I would also like to note that richard rothman, if he has additional information, it would be great if he could share. Its the first time im learning of that. I would be really appreciative. I had another thought but have forgotten. Sorry. Any more questions . Commissioner matsuda thank you. I was just going to say that i dont think this is the only property that is in the works, the landmark designation program, that we are dealing with other city agencies. And sometimes those city agencies may not i dont know understand and appreciate the importance of why we would like to highlight a building. So maybe what we can do as the commission and as and me as liaison for the commission is to make contact with some of the city agencies to let them know or remind them that this project has been on the list. This one, as well as others for a long time. And that projects like this do take a priority because of what the property represents. So im happy to do that. I know that president and i have talked about this and the others can chime in, but im please feel free to use those services if you feel its appropriate. I would say, as we talk about prioritizing the landmarks, this is definitely one property that continues to be on our landmark. I would like to see some significant progress and to get it to be forwarded, loaded and forwarded to the board as soon as possible. And we can talk a little more today about the rest of the program. But this is definitely, i believe, the majority of the work has already been done. Its just more of a procedural thing in making sure that the Property Owner<\/a>s are in sync with us on doing that. So i would move that i would propose, not move, lets get you connected with rec and park and marcel, if you can facilitate that. Lets see if what id like is by the march 2021 meeting to have this kind of behind us if thats possible. This is marcel. Im happy to follow up on that. Great, thank you. Commissioner pearlman, i have other comments, but ill come back. Commissioner pearlman thank you. I did want to ask that you be proactive and get in touch with mr. Rothman. Because you know, he has been in front of our Commission Many<\/a> times. And this building does, i think that two of our priorities with geography and women, you know, something related to women, and women history. [please stand by] in the level of detail that it appeared the board of ed had done, their naming committee had done, was just going to be an enormous amount of time. So i appreciate your answer and certainly im happy to wait until march and find out where the staff is on all of this. Thank you. Right. Thank you. Commissioner so. Commissioner so i am actually having a similar concern or actually appreciation from what commissioner pearlman mentioned. I really appreciate the report you have created and also giving me the overview of all the efforts that are happening or have been happening. But then i am concerned about the resources that we have and how do we prioritize and continue to keep all the relevant and necessary things to move forward not overly exhausting our staff and if we need some extra resources and how do we better position ourselves to identify them, i see that you stated there was this new fact sheet and you anticipate this upcoming fiscal year we can take on 12 projects for landmark destinations, and i just wasnt clear i was really curious whether it is 12, 20 more than what we have been doing, or if its half it looks like we will be able to do more. But then if were able to do more in that particular element, what happens to the citywide survey . What happens to other review. I just want to make sure we really are aware that were all asked to cut our budgets and then our resources are limited and also with the racial and cultural equity lens that we definitely need to do something about and i want to make sure that maybe by march or somewhere between now and then, we have we know really clearly what are the priorities and what our resources are to align them together, and then when some of them we wish we can do, unless we have a really good reason and methods of how to take care of them when we do have the resources. A quick answer, is 12 more than what we have been doing or is 12 projects increasing the number of landmark destinations we are able to do . Can you hear me . Great. Twelve is slightly more than what has been done in the past. Years have varied based on staffing assignments and ftes. I can say that at this point we do have dedicated staff for landmark designation within the department who dont who primarily focus on landmark designations. We also will be utilizing other resources within current planning. There are staff who have Background Experience<\/a> in landmark designation and other Preservation Planners<\/a> who will be taking on a landmark designation as part of their professional development, benefiting the department as well as themselves, and theyre able to balance that with their, as you note, other work or other current planning work, so its part of their professional development plan. So weve been i think creative and finding fte in the staff to be able to work towards the goal of 12. Commissioner so thank you. I just dont want to overexhaust you guys. If i can add one thing very quickly. Staff generally really enjoys doing these, so i think many of them see it as a fun thing, an alternative to maybe some other tasks. So hopefully they dont get exhausted but they do find it very rewarding. Great, thank you. Commissioner johns . Commissioner johns thank you. I dont want to open a pandoras box, a can of worms, but ive been listening to various people talking about prioritizing things, and it does occur to me that we have never, i dont believe, listed the potential landmarks that are already in the pipeline in order of priority. We like to prioritize this one or that one, but it does seem to me that sometimes what becomes the priority is what was mentioned by perhaps a member of the public or a commissioner recently. Now, how many landmarks are lined up in the pipeline . Youre on mute. How many are lined up in the pipeline . I guess are you asking how many may have substantially complete reports and were working through procedure, or those that we need to begin to research and begin the document drafting . Commissioner johns lets just focus on the former now, the ones where a lot of work has been done and theyre pretty much ready to go . Just one second. Lets see. So there are six that staff have been actively working on, engaged with the owner, and we have documentation, whether that be a landmark report that we have drafted, National Register<\/a> nomination, et cetera. So those six are listed, theyre the second category third category listed in the memo. So that would include commissioner johns you dont have to go through them. Okay. Commissioner johns but my point is that i think it might be useful for us to have in that category as well as the other category you mentioned, those that were not a lot of work has been done. Lets have a list of the priority of those, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. I think that might if we had Something Like<\/a> that and we had some reasons for selecting this one as number one and this one as number 18, then that might provide a guide. Otherwise, i get the uneasy feeling that our analysis of what should go first is maybe a little hazy sometimes. Thats my a suggestion. May i make a quick comment . Commissioner johns of course. Thank you. With regards to that, maybe i could suggest i think we we agree that we should prioritize them. I think what staff has been having trouble doing is making the priority. So we were considering kind of reaching out to the Community Groups<\/a> that speak to different topical areas or themes, such as lgbtqassociated sites, African American<\/a> associated sites, architecture, some around the new deal, and working with the community to help define the priorities. So that is something that we are actually in conversation with some of the lgbtq strategy working group, theres a subset that is focused on preservation and land use. And so we started that conversation with them to, number one, make sure we have the right sites on our work program, and then also public prioritize what we should move through, recognizing that we may only get to a handful each year. So if that would help, thats something that were interested in doing. We havent fully worked with all the communities yet. But thats something that we wanted to work through and bring back to the commission as a list of priorities. Commissioner johns well, i think that could be very helpful, but the publics perception, while very, very important, is only one piece of the whole equation, as i see it. The staff certainly should have some insight on what, from its point of view, it sees as the big priorities, and finally i think that the commissioners definitely have a role in all of this in deciding what should be the priority. And i think if we get everybody involved, then we will probably come out with a pretty good result. Thank you, commissioner johns. I do have several comments. I just wanted to make sure that all the commissioners have the opportunity to speak. I think that commissioner foley is needing to depart, so thank you for letting us know. I do want to kind of go down my list. Understanding that we have many, many legislative changes happening at the state level that may impact some of our eligible listed or nonlisted but Eligible Properties<\/a> and districts, understanding that, i think that we need to be very aware of where that legislation and we are aware. Weve been following it now for several years. But there will be new legislation come january, and its potential that that new legislation will only protect properties that are actually listed, and understanding that, i think it may help us focus on getting the properties that we need listed, either individual properties or districts, listed asap. And so understanding where and so the minimal amount of effort to get that done is going to be very important. I think the Community Sponsored<\/a> designations have been a priority for us because we want to encourage our Community Associations<\/a> to take this and do the heavy lifting for us, and so getting those Community Sponsored<\/a> designations processed asap and not spending i think when we had this a few years ago, we averaged 150 hours, i believe, of designation. So somehow spending 75 hours to process a Community Sponsored<\/a> one, i think we need to figure we should get those so theyre not sitting on our desks. We need to get them and move them along. In your first memo, you outlined a cadence for our reviewing the various programs. We do have a lot of programs going on. And because of all the various programs, the Cultural Heritage<\/a>, the citywide survey, the context statement, you know, theres a lot of stuff going on. Article 10 and 11 are adding properties and districts to article 10 or 11, seem to become the least priority because we do them as we can get to them. And as i said with this pending legislation, we may have to really rethink that. So on the cadence of the review for the designation program, in your memo you said yearly. Im glad were going to get another update in march, so thats not going to be quite a year. I think we can kind of think about that cadence, so [indiscernible] seems to be a long time, but if in march we identify 12 properties that our staff is going to take on in the coming year, 12 is more than we have been doing, is my understanding, if we can identify those 12 properties and prioritize them, maybe we can have quarterly updates on those 12. And then whatever other Community Sponsored<\/a> ones or board sponsored initiations that come along. I know that the mothers building i dont want to be flippant, but im actually tired of talking about it because weve talked about every time weve reviewed in the last eight years ive been there. I want to get that behind us. I know the Golden Gate Library<\/a> is a new one, but that is one, the ball was dropped when the other six or five or seven carnegie libraries were landmarked. So thats another very important both those projects require interactions with other departments. So we really need to make sure that that happens, and diane and i are very willing to help participate and move that along. I think with our context statements, African American<\/a> context, lgbtq , and then of course our citywide survey. So were going to have a longer list and its going to be, you know, 10 years worth of work. So come march, hopefully well have a better picture, but i would like to see more than a yearly annual review, so maybe in march if we identify what were going to be working on, then we just focus on those designations and the notion is, lets get them done and behind us. Our previous reporting, which i appreciate the staff letting us know how much effort goes in to creating those reports, the one piece of information that i found the most useful was the graphic progress diagram for each. Just gives us a snapshot of where we are in the process. So at least on the 12 that we identify or the ones that are in process, if we can have that as a minimum for the reporting, i think that thats just a really helpful tool. And i think that covers pretty much all of what i meant to say. But we do appreciate all your effort. We know that we keep adding and adding more and more requests with fewer and fewer budgets to accomplish them. So thank you. Is there any so i see commissioner so, do you want to ask your question for the Commission Area<\/a> benefit . Commissions benefit . Commissioner so sure. I sent a private message to you, but i think we could make it if you dont mind if you would enlighten me a little bit . Would you like to ask your question . Commissioner so id like to ask, if you dont mind, make a reference to what legislation you are referring to that is about to really drastically going to impact the yes, sure, sure. There are several marcel, you can add on if i forget them. But 330, which is already in law. Theres another one, sb25 or Something Like<\/a> that. I i believe those are actually in their laws now. There was sb50, which didnt survive. There was the predecessor to sb50. And then i think whatever incarnation that will take coming up in january, itll come out again at the state level. I know just this past december, whichever version of that particular legislation, i think it was skinner and wiener were the sponsors of those, that was, i believe, passed but didnt quite make it into the legislative closure, so it wasnt actually enacted. But these are all in the context of building more housing around, you know, high density areas like transit corridors and whatnot, and working within that legislation, weve been very involved, but working within that legislation to, as of right, approve these projects. And hidden in some of that there was language that said the properties need to be listed, and all Historic Properties<\/a> are protected if theyre eligible, and so thats where the challenge is going to be before us if we dont you know, with our citywide survey, we can at least identify our districts and our contributors, and then get that listed and that will provide some level of protection. So thats what we just need to Pay Attention<\/a> to. Do you want to add on to that . Okay. Anything else, commissioners . I just want to thank staff for all the hard work theyre doing on this as well as all the other programs. All right. Jonas, i think that was our last item. Indeed it is. So were adjourned. Stay safe and well, everyone. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. Take care. [ ] [ ] so i grew up in cambridge, massachusetts and i was very fortunate to meet my future wife, now my wife while we were both attending graduate school at m. I. T. , studying urban planning. So this is her hometown. So, we fell in love and moved to her city. [ ] [ ] i was introduced to this part of town while working on a campaign for gavin, who is running for mayor. I was one of the organizers out here and i met the people and i fell in love with them in the neighborhood. So it also was a place in the city that at the time that i could afford to buy a home and i wanted to own my own home. This is where we laid down our roots like many people in this neighborhood and we started our family and this is where we are going to be. I mean we are the part of San Francisco<\/a>. Its the two neighborhoods with the most children under the age of 18. Everybody likes to talk about how San Francisco<\/a> is not familyfriendly, there are not a lot of children and families. We have predominately Single Family<\/a> homes. As i said, people move here to buy their first home, maybe with multiple family members or multiple families in the same home and they laid down their roots. [ ] its different because again, we have little small storefronts. We dont have Light Industrial<\/a> space or space where you can build highrises or large office buildings. So the tech boom will never hit our neighborhood in that way when it comes to jobs. Turkey, cheddar, avocado, lettuce and mayo, and little bit of mustard. Thats my usual. Mike is the owner, born and bred in the neighborhood. He worked in the drugstore forever. He saved his money and opened up his own spot. Were always going to support home grown businesses and he spent generations living in this part of town, focusing on the family, and the vibe is great and people feel at home. Its like a Little Community<\/a> gathering spot. This is the part of the city with a small town feel. A lot of mom and pop businesses, a lot of family run businesses. There is a conversation on whether starbucks would come in. I think there are some people that would embrace that. I think there are others that would prefer that not to be. I think we moved beyond that conversation. I think where we are now, we really want to enhance and embrace and encourage the businesses and Small Businesses<\/a> that we have here. In fact, its more of a mom and pop style business. I think at the end of the day, what were really trying to do is encourage and embrace the diversity and enhance that diversity of businesses we already have. Were the only supervisor in the city that has a permanent district office. A lot of folks use cafes or use offices or different places, but i want out and was able to raise money and open up a spot that we could pay for. Im very fortunate to have that. Hi, good to see you. Just wanted to say hi, hi to the owner, see how hes doing. Everything okay . Yeah. Good. We spend the entire day in the district so we can talk to constituents and talk to Small Businesses<\/a>. We put money in the budget so you guys could be out here. This is like a commercial corridor, so they focus on cleaning the streets and it made a Significant Impact<\/a> as you can see. What an improvement it has made to have you guys out here. For sure. We have a significantly diverse neighborhood and population. So i think thats the richness of the mission and it always has been. Its what made me fall in love with this neighborhood and why i love it so much. We are definitely pioneers in airport concession world a world of nationally if not entirely or internationally everybody is cop us right now. The people that were in charge of the retail this is where that began. I didnt think we would have a location at the airport. Weve set the bar higher with the customer commerce. Telling me about the operator and how you go about finding them and they get from being in the city to being in the airport. So first, we actually find a table and once we know what we want a sitdown we go to the neighborhoods in San Francisco<\/a> and other people seminary of the retail let us know about the rain water and are excited to have the local operators in the airport. We have to go going through commissioner green . Present. Commissioner guillermo. Present. Clerk commissioner christian. Present. Commissioner chow. Present. And commissioner chung. Present. Ill do the approval of the october 6, 2020 minutes. The gang is all here. The commissioners have any edits or if not we can entertain a motion to approve. Motion to approve. Second. Second. Theres no one on the Public Comment<\/a> line so far today. President bernal all right. 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