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SFGTV SF Public Utilities Commission July 12, 2024

Have lifted the restrictions on teleconference, this meeting is being held by teleconference and broadcast on sfgtv. On behalf of the commission, i would like to extend our thanks to sfgtv and sfpuc i. T. Staff for their assistance during this meeting. If you would like to make Public Comment, 4156550001, meeting i. , 1467230055, pound, pound. To enter the queue to speak, press star, three. Madam speaker, the item for closed session is Richard Denton versus city and county of San Francisco et al. The requested resolution is to pay the plaintiff and the plaintiff is to withdraw from employment and accept this as settlement for any and all claims. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers . Operator madam secret, there are no call secretary, there are no callers wishing to be recognized at this time. Clerk thank you. Public comment on item 5, closed session, is now closed. May i have a motion on whether to assert the attorneyclient privilege on the matter listed below with the Legal Council . So may i have a motion and a second . So moved. Second . Second. Thank you. Madam clerk madam secretary, will you call roll, please . [roll call] clerk you have four ayes. Its been moved and seconded. We the commission is back from closed session at 2 05. May i have a motion and a second on whether to disclose [indiscernible] in closed session . May i have a motion . Motion not to disclose. Second. Whether to disclose whether not to disclose discussions. So the move is seconded. Madam secretary, may we have a roll call vote, please. President maxwell . Aye. Vicepresident . Aye. Commissioner paulson . Aye. Commissioner harrington . Aye. You have four ayes. All right, thank you. Moved and seconded. Madam secretary, may we read item 8, please. Item 8, approval of the minutes of october 13, 2020. The chair is there any discussion or corrections to the minutes . May i have a motion and a second to approve the minutes of so move. Second. Madam secretary, will you open Public Comment, please . Members of the public who wish to make two minutes of Public Comment on item 8, the minutes of october 13,. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers . Madam secretary, theres one caller in the queue. Thank you. Caller, can you hear us . Madam secretary, the caller put their hand down just before i opened the line. Okay, thank you. Public comment on item no. 8 is closed. And you have a first and a second. Yes. Roll call vote, please. President maxwell . Aye. Vice president morin . Aye. Commissioner paulson . Aye. Commissioner harrington . Aye. You have four ayes. The chair thank you. Madam secretary, will you read the next item, please. The next order of business is no. 9, general public. Members of the public may address the commission for up to two minutes on items not on todays agenda by dialing 14156550001, meeting id1462737257. To raise your hand to speak, press star three. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers . Madam secretary, there are three callers in the queue. I will unmute the first caller. Thank you. Commissioners, its very interesting to see the deliberations of these virtual meetings. The very first thing you will do is go into closed session, and i think it would be a good idea in the future to tell us what the closed session is all about, more because of what is happening with [indiscernible] today. I want to talk about a project called the amcent project. I was reviewing the details of this project, and for two years a gentleman called dwayne jones and his partners were being paid for two years, and then suddenly it stopped, and i believe that [indiscernible] has been given to consultants, and it is such dubious and nefarious activities that are going under your nose you need some good leadership. That is why i propose that maybe mr. Harrington and mr. Anson malone would take charge of this sinking ship and keep it afloat. [indiscernible] and so we are left with no other alternative since our Sunshine Task force doesnt work, our Ethics Commission doesnt work, we are left with no other alternative but to cooperate with the federal bureau of investigation, and i hope you all understand we are in dire straits and our city does not deserve this. We do not deserve the [indiscernible] system Improvement Project that started with a 6 billion project and now 12 billion. Thank you, caller. Your time has expired. Next caller. Good to be back with you. As i look forward to future events sfpuc certainly start off with the idea of awareness. As sfpuc is now the default provider of electricity in San Francisco, i would like that to be something that is more made known, because sfpuc through clean power sf should not just be a seller of kilowatt hours but a developer of relationships. And so how resiliency is essential to be involved with increasing our renewables percentage and building distributive storage throughout the city and hopefully putting solar panels on the rest of the sunset reservoir, we dont have to be so dependent on getting electricity from beyond the borders of this city, especially considering fires and power shutoffs. And renewables are proving to be cheaper all the time. I would like to see us work toward a day when clean power sf will be 100 renewable and cheaper than the pg e default option, because then we will be truly showing the world how we do clean power, and clean power sf, even at this moment, is very good at doing clean power with the oversight of this board, which is why i support public power and i ask that you continue the work of building a municipal utility district so sfpuc can have control of the delivery side of the house. Thank you. Moderator thank you, caller. Next caller, your lines been opened. Good afternoon. This is peter drekmier. I just wanted to report that we are officially in salmon spawning season as of a couple days ago there were 225 salmon that came up the to spawn. That compares to 558 last year and more than 1500 in 2018 for this time. And i would, therefore, guess well see about 2,000 spawners this year, perhaps as many as 3,000. To put this in perspective, in 1944 there were 130,000 salmon spawning in the twalmy. Now 1944 was a fwood year, but keep in mind it followed decades of mining, ranching and logging that all had impacts on the river. Vats were introduced in the late 1800 and Oshaughnessy Dam and the original pedro dam had been constructed and yet we still have 130,000. What changed . Well, in the early 70s, 60s and 70s, there was the construction of New Don Pedro Dam which is seven times as big as the original and has the capacity to capture all of the water in an average water year. And so agriculture grew and urban areas grew and a lot less water was flowing down lower twalmy. It became warmer and the harbours invasive predator fish, flood plain channels not inundated as often as it was, and the water is just not in Good Condition for native fish. And thats why the bay delta plan is so important, and you have heard me say it before. I hope you will draw up your support for the voluntary agreement and embrace the control plan. Thank you. Moderator thank you, caller. Madam secretary, there are no more callers in the queue. Thank you. Public comment on item 9, general Public Comment, is closed. Thank you. Madam secretary, will you read the next item, please . Madam president , your next item is item no. 10, communications. Commissioners, is there any discussion on communications . Will you open up for public im sorry, commissioner maxwell . Yes. If i might, i have a question on 10g, which is the power enterprise custom program. The question is whether our programs mimic pg es Customer Support programs or whether they are different. That may be a longer answer than we can get at the moment, but i would like to have a table or something that helps me understand what the comparison is between the programs that were offering and the programs that pg e offer. The chair thank you. I think thats a great question. We can do that. Okay. Madam president , i had a question on that same item. Great report. I would love to see something we have so many programs that sound so good. I would love to see something about number of people taking them up or energy saved or money spent, or some measure of its hard to tell which ones are big or which ones are small, so Something Like that would be nice the next time we see a report like this. The chair a bit more detail. Something about the effectiveness. All right. The chair okay. Colleagues, any further discussion . Madam clerk, will you open up for Public Comment, please. Members of the public who wish to make two minutes of Public Comment on item 10, communications, dial 1156550001, meeting id1462737257 pound pound. To raise your hand to speak, press star 3. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers . Moderator there are multiple callers in the queue. Your line has been opened. Good afternoon, david pillpel. Just wanted to comment on two items on communications, item 10d and 10f. On 10d i think i was the one that triggered that two weeks ago and just wanted to follow up and say i had a good conversation with assistant gm eric sandler. We were getting somewhere. We were about to solve the problem and then general manager kelly called and we had to cut it off, but we will finish that conversation shortly, and if theres anything further, i will follow up with him or marge and resolve that so that we can make payments and others that are similarly situated can make payments. We dont want to have all this debt outstanding unnecessarily. And then as to 10f, i just wanted to appreciate that rich stevens and his team that maintains the street lights, and they dont get a whole lot of appreciation around here, and they really should, i just wanted to point out over the last several months during the shelterinplace, ive actually seen a lot more street light maintenance during the day and at night, and things seem to be pretty good out there in terms of street light maintenance, but i would again you know, encourage people to call 311 if they see lights out at night or lights on during the day so that those work orders can get in the system and richs grew can get up there and fix those. Theres a little p. S. A. Thanks very much. Keep up the good work, everyone. Moderator thank you, caller. Next caller, your line is open. Thank you, president Sophie Maxwell. Lots of good things. I like what im seeing with the power enterprise update. Most of my focus is going to be on the inperson payment. Covid is a very challenging time for us, and we want to reduce our exposure because sfpuc is an absolutely necessary service, and im seeing that there are very few people who are making inperson payments and the idea of mail payments or Electronic Payments is not new. And we should be encouraging more toward the electronic payment realm, i submit to you as a person with disabilities and as a veteran that i have been receiving Electronic Payments since 1989, definitely not new. And i have been making Electronic Payments to my various utilities since 2002, autopay i think is the more recent system, and theres a lot of community options. If a person needs to pay cash, there are plenty of in their community and not necessarily having to make a trip and [indiscernible] will be issued. But even for somebody who does a payment electronically, one can get a receipt printed, copy off eemail or library printer place if they dont have a printer, i think overall were doing a pretty good thing. Lets encourage simplicity. Inperson payments at one place is a very expensive way to go, and i think we can use the efficiencies with this current model to have other programs for the greater good of the city. Thank you. Moderator thank you, caller. Madam secretary, there are no more callers in the queue. Thank you. That closes Public Comment on item no. 10. Youre muted, madam president. Madam secretary, will you read the next item, please. The next order of business is item 11, report of the general manager. Good afternoon, commissioners. I have three items, and the first item is an update of the december 2018 bay delta plan amendment and voluntary agreement negotiations with the state. Well have Michael Carlin, deputy general manager Michael Carlin to give you an update. Good afternoon, president maxwell, commissioners. Todays update will be kind of short since we have only had one meeting since the last time ive updated you with the state teams. The issues still remaining on the table center around dry and critical water and habitat improvements. Habitat improvements was the subject of a technical meeting that was held with the state team last week. It revolves around the fact that we had proposed in our voluntary agreement to activate 80 acres of the flood plain habitat in the spring its a lot of water, and the state team is asking for 160 acres of flood plain habitat that would be activated at a lower level of 500 to 100cff, thats cuber feet per second. We are having a discussion why the switch by the state team, what is the rationale behind it, what is it that youre trying to hope to achieve. Weve had one discussion with them and were trying to raise the second discussion with them on this technical matter, seeing if we can get some sort of breakthrough. If we can do that, i think that would be fairly significant and we can actually move forward with, you know, other discussions on this is one that trickle and dry year water is a very tough subject to broach. It is a dry year or critical year, theres not a lot of water in the state, and even though we would be rationing, we still need to look at how much water we actually have in our system because we dont want to run out. So we still have to have those discussions and were trying to move forward with that at this point in time, but its a very slow process at this stage. And i would be glad to answer any questions as i think there will be quite a few. The chair colleagues, any questions . Sorry, michael, no questions. Okay. All right, the next item is the excuse me. Im sorry, general manager, im going to call Public Comment at this point. Is that appropriate, madam president . Yes, open Public Comment, please. Members of the public who wish to make two minutes of Public Comment on item 11a dial 14156550001, meeting id 146, 2737257 pound pound. To raise your hand to speak, press star 3. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers waiting to be recognized . Quick comment on critical and dry years, they have a much bigger impact on water agencies that depend on river flow, and as you know, San Francisco is very storage dependent, and the goal is to have all the reservoirs full by july of each year. When all the reservoirs are full, theres enough water in storage to last six years, so it would take a number of consecutive critically dry years to drain that. We have a great example recently. At the height of a recent drought, San Francisco had enough water in storage to last three years, and then one year later in the summer of 2016, there was enough water to last five years. Thats because in an average year the sfpuc is entitled to three times as much water as it uses. And then we had the big water year, 2017, where your entitlements enabled 12 years worth of water. Obviously there wasnt any place to store it and it got dumped down the river. So i just never see the rationale behind the sfpuc worrying about critical and dry years. It really has very, very little impact when you have so much storage. Thank you. Moderator thank you, caller. Next caller, ive opened your line. I know youve opened my line. So whenever this topic comes, i have requested you, commissioners, to bring the first people to the table as i did myself once, brought them all the way from yosemite to San Francisco so that the elders could tell you all white folks, mostly, you have destroyed a lot of waters pristine. We have to keep it real. So [indiscernible] is suffering, and the most important element of the twalmy river are the salmon. They cant speak for themselves. So well have to speak for the salmon. And so when the elders come and the Indigenous People come and tell you all something, they dont want to listen. They want to go by some [indiscernible] some slows. Even though the reservoir with afford to let some water into the twalmy river, they know that. The Indigenous People cared for the river for 15,000 years. You all can go into your records and find out when you all arrived in this country, and anyone can arrive in this country. I have no problems about that, even though i represent the [indiscernible] i dont have a problem about that. What i have a problem is being a snob, being proud, having no empathy and compassion for the first peoples, and one of your representatives going to sacramento and pretending to represent [indiscernible]. Moderator thank you, caller. Your time has expired. Madam secretary, there are no more callers in the queue. Thank you. Public comment on item 11a is closed. General manager kelly . Youre on mute. The chair before general manager goes on, could you give some light on the concern about storage and us having enough water during those lean years . Could you add something to that, please . Sure. Ill try and ill ask Steve Ritchie to jump in as well. We are a storagedependent system. We do try to hold back water, and we did change our operation during that period of 20122016, and we were very close to having zero water bank which would have meant that we would have to be releasing water from hechee to the irrigation districts to fulfill their water rights obligation. I think he kind of simplifies our operation quite a bit, and you never know how long things are going to last, and if you start making mistakes and you put yourself in a situation where youre perilously out of water, you cant make it up, so i would turn to steve if he wants to add anything else on that. Assistant general manager for water. I would just add that when we talked about having three

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