Board will not take any formal action but looking forward to peoples comments and questions. Any people on the line, moderator . You have seven questions remaining. Chair borden okay, our first speaker, please. Caller hello. My name is joel kamisher, a School Crossing guard and a member of the sfciu 10 to 1 bargaining committee. We have been trying to talk about not outsourcing people to protect the city workers and im hearing that discussion about the flaggers and the pedestrian monitors. I wonder if we could use our own workforce, the parking control people and the crossing guards instead of having the contractors hire private people. I realize that the flaggers might have their own union, so maybe thats a problem. But im hoping that we can do other things to reduce the need of contract people to prevent layoffs . Thank you. Chair borden thank you, next speaker, please. You have six questions remaining. Caller hello, members of the board, my name is Hector Jimenez and im with the local 1001 and a resident of the city of San Francisco. I wanted to address the board that four of the 17 slides in the presentation that we saw today were dedicated to impossible scenarios that ask the board to imagine if the cares act funding wasnt received. We believe that this is a further waste of our time today. Done cruelly to illustrate the hypothetical layoffs in order to instill fear and to degrade morale in the middle of a feast of labor violations and unsafe work conditions that with covid19 include equipment failure of which the public is very aware of, and the equipment explosions at the maintenance facilities. This is insane. Lets start by improving your workforces confidence in order to improve the publics. Thank you. Chair borden thank you, next speaker, please. You have seven questions remaining. Chair borden next speaker. Caller hi, can you hear me . Chair borden yes, we can. Caller hi, my name is Teresa Rutherford with 1021. Im calling to speak to this issue of potential layoffs for my coworkers and to speak to the fact that, you know, as director tumlin said that these are heroes but at the same time were talking about the lowhanging fruit of laying off workers and having their families harmed. We know that m. T. A. Workers are on the frontline, theyre frontline workers. That theyre some of the persons who are helping to keep the community safe. And we would ask that m. T. A. Operate in a genuine way and treat workers with respect by not using them as bait. Because we know that this is not about this is not about the delivery of service and this is not about revenue. We know that this is political. We know that this is coming from pressure from city hall. And we know that this is directly tied to the issue of workers having a contract, which we bargained for and struggled to have. We know that also this is undermining the majority of the workers who are black and brown in the city and county of San Francisco, who are always being used, you know, whenever politicians want to make a point. This is not the time to use workers. The cares act, the m. T. A. Has the cares act, 373 million reserved, with over 330 million, and we also know that you have a Million Dollars savings that comes from vacancies, 540 vacancies and bringing in over a million for the city. These are all things that the city and county of San Francisco workers [bell] we ask that you step up and treat people with respect and you honor workers and you operate genuinely and not Pay Lip Service of the workers deserve better and, no, were not going to open up our contracts and allow you to use us as bait. Chair borden that was the time. So sorry about that, thank you. Next speaker, please. You have nine questions remaining. Chair borden next speaker, please. Hi, everybody, this is trevor adam. Im the chapter president and i represent sfciu1021 and its agency. It is always really concerning to me listening to these conversations that the board has the monthly about the type of enforcement that we do and the work that we do for the city and how out of touch you all are with how things work, even things as simple as the rules of order and migreatingreatinggre g over those things and its concerning to me and my group of workers. The main thing that i have issue with is that enforcement is always the topic how can we bring in one revenue. Never do i hear the safeguarding of the people doing that enforcement. Never once do yall say that. Thats the key. Thats the key to go ahead and safeguard these employees to feel safe to do their jobs, and its a very dangerous job. Its a thankful job. And its from both sides, from all sides, from our employer and the citizens that we serve. So i think should be definitely considered when you all talk about these types of these new types of enforcement. R. P. T. , theres always money to be made on r. P. P. With the enforcement. But, guess what, enforcement 30 seconds. Caller its hard to do when you dont have the support of your employers to keep you safe, to limit your exposure to a pandemic and things like that. So i want you to go ahead and put your shoes in the officers that you represent and that work with you and consider what you need from your employer to do your job not only during a pandemic, but on a regular day. And then maybe you could see some increase in the type of enforcement that they do. And they will be comforted in the work that they do. Its ultimately coming down to the workers and the work they do. [bell] chair borden thats the time. Caller i really hope that you consider it. Chair borden thank you for calling, no one is excited when they see a p. C. O. And so we understand that the nature of your work is quite thankless. Caller but its one thing to say it but you do not show that you understand. In your conversations earlier, you indicated that you have no idea of what goes on in parking and traffic in the city and county of San Francisco. Thank you. Chair borden thank you, next speaker, please. You have 10 questions remaining. Chair borden next speaker. Caller hi, my name is Richard Rothman and i think that the board of directors are answerinasking the right questis finally. But they need help. Either, you know, listening to these why they dont have outside eyes like having Ben Rosenfield look over the budget in the operation, and the other thing is maybe the board should have one staff member who reports to the board president and can do some of the work. You know, the board members, you know, this is just like a second job. So maybe they need somebody there fulltime they could ask to do the research and who reports to them directly and not through the executive director. I think that would help you to ask more important questions. And somebody who has worked in on retirement issues. Early retirement is off the table because you have to put it on the charter and when we did it last time, the retirement board didnt want to keep it on an ongoing basis. So early retirety buy offs are off the table unless we have to do another charter amendment. But keep up the good work and asking the right questions. Thank you. Chair borden thank you. Next speaker, please. You have eight questions remaining. Caller hi, members of the board, this is bob allen with urban habitat. I wanted to acknowledge the seriousness of the crisis that youre all facing and, obviously, the workers at sfmta and muni are at the front line of those potential impacts of the crisis. And the crisis were in play when we had a instruct really deficit over a number of years that we failed to address and thats only been compounded with covid, obviously. But some of the some of the difficult decisions that we did make on addressing the structural deficit and on some of the unfortunately, i think on some of the Capital Investments were also the legacy of what were dealing with. I really do want to say that as the community we are aggressively pursuing, you know, three avenues. One, at the regional level. I know that director heminger has in the past has talked about flexing Capital Funding and the challenges and the tradeoffs to that. But i appreciated his comments about the need to look at, you know, maintenance funds and other types of funds given the crisis and the implications of not having sufficient operating funding. Were trying to get m. T. C. To max nicmaximize that, and to gem to act as if theres a crisis at the m. T. C. Level regionally. And pursuing the groundwork for what we hope to be a ballot measure regionally to bring additional operating resources in. As well as flexing state funds. Hopefully over time well look at reforming the residentsial parking and land value and other types of potential measures to address the structural crisis. Thank you. Chair borden thank you, next speaker, please. You have nine questions remaining. Question good afternoon, chairman borden and director tumlin. This is the county operator and the Community Representative for local indiscernible . I want to thank the board for brain storming on how to bring in more revenue and how to save jobs. I really do appreciate that. And i want to speak on the record on behalf of the transit operators. Theyre out there every day and they do their job, they do their work, some from east bay and sacramento and tracy and knowing that theyre working and theyre exposed to the coronavirus and the potential of taking this deadly virus back home to their families. And i i and you, of course, i know that director tumlin does not want to see anyone laid off and i do not want to see my operators or members of the local to be laid off. And im hoping and praying that we do come together and that the union and the board and sfmta to do something, to come together so that no one will lose their job. Not only 91 the transit operators but our sfmta employees. For now im speaking for my operators and i see them every day and i see their eyes, they are concerned, they have families. If theyre furloughed, theres article 5 in the m. O. U. Stage that sfmta has the right to have all management progression prerogative, including but not limited to layoffs. But not limited to i guess that furlough would be something, not limited to just the abcd and e. And i want to thank you all and we can get together and do something and we can keep our operators working and other city departments working without laying anyone off. Thank you very much. Chair borden thank you. Next speaker, please. You have eight questions remaining. Caller hi, steven miller. Just listening to this presentation and its so sad to see. We all have to hope for georgia. But when were thinking about layoffs, just think about all of the employees that you know. These are employees who are getting, you know, assaulted at work, theyre sleeping in their cars. We see it in the news. And theyre putting their lives on the line working during a pandemic to provide us service. All of the options that we have talked about today, you know, increasing, like, enforcement and trying to raise fares through fare enforcement, all of that depends on the front line workers who are out there collecting the fares, enforcing the fares. In the offices coming up with how were going to do all of that. So, you know, the employees are really how were going to help the agency recover. The other ideas i think that the idea of furloughs over layoffs is obviously, you know, its the least worst option. There are no good options, but i think that at the end of the day thats the least worst option. And then also looking at pay cuts for the management. I know that roger morenko committed earlier this year to get a 10 pay cut along with upper management. So i think that is definitely something to look into. Other things include, like, branding stations, i dont know if that is possible, but naming it, you know, westportal station, you know, sponsored by target or Something Like that. But 38 gare sponsored by, you know really, you know, its a desperate time right now. So just looking at all options. Hopefully good news will come soon from the federal government, just hope for it. Thank you. Chair borden thank you. Next speaker, please. You have seven questions remaining. Caller hi, my name is Nicole Christian and i am a member of sfciu local 10021. And im calling today because im really disappointed with this conversation. I am disappointed that you think that layoffs or furloughs are the only way to bridge a budget gap. And also disappointed that this board seems so out of touch with the daily operations of sfmta. You made the statement of canceling r. P. P. , that shows how out of touch you are. That program not only pays for itself, but the employees who administer that program. Which means that you are canceling services and youre canceling jobs. And to make a correction, no, you cannot just impose layoffs on us. We have a say in that as well. And we will fight back against layoffs and furloughs every step of the way. And as for deferring retirement contributions, in 2008 there was concessions and those employees have never been made whole to this day 12 years later. And during a pandemic, the one thing that you dont want to do and i dont have a business degree in this but im pretty sure that last thing that you want to do is to dry up current revenue streams. R. P. P. Is valuable. Our employees are valuable and i would ask you to use more thought in generating new revenue and finding new Funding Sources than falling on the easy decision to cut those socalled heroes that you just described. You dont fire your hero. You protect them, you support them, and you save them. Thank you. Chair borden thank you. Next speaker, please. You have six questions remaining. Caller i ride muni regularly and now one thing about layoffs, what about layoffs for management. You keep talking about layoffs for drivers, you never mention management and they have to make sacrifices too. And also i think that some of these projects could be frozen as much as possible. That money should be freed up for public transportation, which is a primary mission of m. T. A. You have no business throwing workers, throwing public under the wheel. Now certainly sacrifices have to be made, but lets start with management and lets start with the project, even dont even have new bike lanes because you need that money for public transportation. Public transportation should have priority. So, you know, the whole thing is so misthought with slow streets and youre creating congestion. Youre penalizing people because they have to drive cars. Charging people a fee for parking in front of their own house . Pretty soon theyll charge people for sleeping in their bedroom. This is totally ridiculous. So those are my thoughts about it. For gods sake, you know, really make sacrifices and dont sacrifice drivers and the public. Thank you. Chair borden thank you. Next speaker, please. You have five questions remaining. Chair borden next speaker. Caller thank you, chair, and the members. My pronouns are she and her. This is challenging. And i think that we have to consider all options on the table. Its sad to say, including layoffs. Not consider all options would be remiss and equivalent to sticking ones head in the sand. I dont want to see anybody laid off because i personally know what it is like to be laid off. And unemployment doesnt pay very much. I think that we certainly have to look at efficiencies and how we find sources of money, and this may require for longterm rethinking in how we fund public transportation. And that will take action at the state and federal levels. And it wont happen today. I hope that we get more cares funding but we do have to consider if we dont, because hate to say it, but the cares funding is not going to be permanent. It gives us time, but it, unfortunately, delays the inevitable unless we can find something else. And Public Transit is essential to this city. And we dont want anyone to be left behind. We dont want anybody to be left behind at bus stops. That should never happen. Especially for people with disabilities. And we have to ensure the state of good repair. So these are hard choices. And they may require charter amendments. And other changes that are much bigger than ourselves. So i ask that you do consider all of the options, because we cannot stick our heads in the sand. The reality is that this is hard and we must continue thinking and talking about it. Thank you. Chair borden thank you. Next speaker, please. You have four questions remaining. Chair borden next speaker. Caller hi, my name is Kristen Michael and a planner with local 10201. I thank you for that analysis that was provided to the agency staff yesterday also. And while i appreciate the transparency around the budget i want to present facts around the presentation and how it has impacted staff since yesterday. So, first, i think that some of the facts and the scenarios were unnecessary dire, a scenario as if cares act funding was not received. Additionally, before the impact of the pandemic, m. T. A. Was projecting a 520 million structural deficit. Now postpandemic that fiveyear structural deficit is 600 million. So how could that 15 increase in deficit in five years result suddenly in needing to lay off 22 of the workers . Finally, 540 vacant t. F. E. S has a savings of 101 million annually and you have to take into account the staff that are still at the agency that are absorb other the work of those 540 people. So, second, i wanted to make sure that the board and the director know how scared staff walked away from the presentation yesterday without a feeling of next steps. I have heard folks saying they are trying to close the gap enough to save 22 of the f. T. E. Jobs and they feel that the only direction they got after all of the sad new was to go talk to your union. So i just want to say that m. T. A. Staff, we love our jobs and we care about the city. It will be a giant loss to lose the agencys heart and morale by losing their staff. So i ask for care and thoughtful partnership as we move forward with these discussions. With a clear analysis of the facts and the clear next steps so folks arent left in fear with little direction on what to do next. Thank you. Chair borden thank you. Next speaker, please. You have three questions remaining. Chair borden next speaker. Caller good afternoon, directors. My name is cameron and im an engineer and a member of local 21, professional technical engineers and planners. And it is clear that we are in a very tough time, specifically for our Transit Agency and the budget presentation, especially scary and bleak going from the last speakers comment. So i think that it is important to point out that the sfmta does have a healthy reserve fund balance, calle