Fund departments may mead extra Staff Members to do various things. I think people have been doing more with less and that works for a while but after some period of time people cant do more without having more and they are all stressed out. We may need more resources for the clerks office. Perhaps some other general fund departments. I do agree with the clerks recommendations that were on that slide that i cant see right now. Those are the recommendations today. We no, i thinks may change early next year and probably will change several times next year. I understand that the mayors budget instructions are due out next wednesday. I understood that this committee was not meeting next wednesday and perhaps this was the last scheduled meeting for the year. I am wondering when the mayors budget instructions will be up for discussion at the Budget Committee . Perhaps someone can address that question. Thank you very much. Thank you for your comments, sir. Next speaker, please. That completes the queue. Public comment is closed on items 16 and 17. To address the public speakers question. There is a budget and finance committee on the 16th of december. That is next week after everybody else is on recess. I wanted to mention that. I see that supervisor walton is in the queue. Thank you, chair fewer. I want to thank the clerk and her team for all of the work on this part of the budget process and the continued work on budget as a whole. Thank you so much. I dont have any questions, chair fewer because i have had conversations. I am good. Thank you, supervisor. Madam clerk. These items i think that item 17 what i need to do is time that hearing, is that correct . Should i for item 16 does that need to be approved for the full board . I believe that the appropriate action for 16 would be to send to the full board with recommendations for item 17en a hearing and the appropriate action to approval the recommended adjustments. I appreciate that guidance. I would make a motion item 16 to move to the board with positive recommendation. Roll call vote, please. Supervisor walton. Aye. Supervisor mandelman . Aye. Chair fewer. Aye. Three ayes. Thank you very much. For item 17. I would like to approve the recommendations from the office of the clerk and file this hearing. Thank you, madam chair. Supervisor walton. Aye. Supervisor mandelman. Aye. Chair fewer. Aye. There are three ayes. Thank you very much. Thank you. Now, i see that colleagues, we have a recess until 2 30 p. M. The budget and finance committee will recess until 2 30 p. M. Where we will hear items 18 and 19 and 20. Thank you very much. See you all chair fewer good afternoon, everyone. We are now reconvening the budget and finance committee special meeting. Madam clerk, can you please read item 18. The defacto standard. The problem is our policies or the lack thereof are inequitable or unfair. Right now, 30 of our population are paying more than 30 of their income to rent. Sometimes they pay up to 70 of their monthly income to rent, leaving little for other expenses. For many, they only have a few hundred dollars leftover to pay for nonrent related costs like food and transportation for the remainder of the month in one of the most expensive cities in the world. This means that tenants do not have enough for the basics. It is an unfortunate oversight. It is unfair. In many cases, i would describe it as cruel, and it has left some of our poorest, often disabled and chronic illness people in our city with an incredible unbearable burden of rent. In 2019, there were over 1800 notices of eviction written to lowincome tenants in permanent Supportive Housing. When we talk about permanent Supportive Housing, we need to make sure that it is truly affordable. This can mean the difference between eating and not eating, accessing Critical Health care, or staying in their homes for these tenants. This will make an immediate difference in peoples lives, so i just want to close by being very clear about what this will do. The legislation will do two things. One, it will set a 30 standard for all permanent Supportive Housing funded by the city, and two, transitions nearly 3,000 older units to 30 standard. My hope is we can do this sooner than 2023, although the findings layout that that will be our goal to have that transition. This will come at an annual cost of 6 million a year. That will be a lifeline for almost 3,000 people. We have to be creative and aggressive in funding permanent Supportive Housing in the next few years, and we need to do this in a fair and equitable ways. All right now, we have started directing legacy Affordable Housing to this standard, and i want to thank chair fewer in particular for her leadership there. I just want to share one story which i think provides a face to this very serious challenge that we would address with this legislation. The bay area reporter last week highlighted one of the tenants that was impacted by the change that we made for those direct access to housing units, adriana, who was living in casa regada. She had recently lost her job and tested positive for covid. She said, and i quote, i am paying less rent now, which is really good, especially with covid. It really helps. Me and my neighbors were really worried about the rent. Passing this legislation today will provide immense relief for nearly 3,000 tenants in the coming years and makes sure that the future housing coming online will not be more than 30 rent. I want to thank all of the members of the 30 right now coalition, including the senior disability action, tender line Peoples Congress, hespa, the coalition on homelessness, and many, many s. R. O. Tenants, tenant leaders, who im sure a are have called in and are waiting to provide Public Comment, and, of course, to my cosponsors on this laejs lation legislation, supervisors walton, ronen, peskin, and preston. I want to thank you for hearing this today and for the nearly 3,000 tenants who will be impacted. Chair fewer so dylan snyder, are you here . Are you the main examiner for this item . Good afternoon, chair fewer and supervisors. I am here. Im going to be driving the presentation today, and we have gigi whitley, our Deputy Director of administration and finance, to offer a presentation. Chair fewer thank you. Gigi, good to see you again. Good afternoon, chair fewer, members of the committee, supervisor haney. Im going to give a very brief presentation of the supervisors hit on some of the key points. I will acknowledge, though, that, you know, this gap in our system is one that the Department Recognized that its forming and really took a leadership role in setting that policy so that everything we did as a new department was at that new standard. Unfortunately, we didnt have enough funding in our budget to fix the legacy issues, and we inherited other issues around the level of services and sort of the critical acuity that these plans also need, and so that was other tradeoffs that we needed to face. As you heard the supervisor say, this ordinance would amend the admin code to set a cap on the monthly rental payment that permanent Supportive Housing tenants would pay. Next slide. Many of these legacy units were developed, you know, as the permanent Supportive Housing portfolio was sort of gathered carrot the city, predominantly in the Human Services agency, but also in the department of Public Health direct access to housing programs. You know, we changed that possible, but we did not have the 6 million to 8 million that we initially had in our budget to solve for the legacy budgets. This ordinance would direct us to do that. Wed note that we still dont have that in our budget. We did get a 1 million add back in a twoyear period, and that helped supporting us as well as our partners at mohcd correcting for those 693 units, the tenant rent that the supervisor mentioned. So overall, the portfolio is still about 887 units of legacy tenants that still pay more than that 30 rent in our analysis. You see here the estimated cost to further subsidize the tenant rent at this 30 standard level. Some of that is some of our legacy turnout cash buildings, current or former cap science, and i believe we have representatives from the Human Services agency if you have questions about that subsidy program. Our understanding is this additional subsidy to the client by allowing them to keep more money in their pocket would not affect their benefits or cash benefits in any way. We have other legacy units, about 1,000 units, at a cost of 2. 6 million a year, and then 693 units that we were able to assist on a more limited basis. Overall, this is a combination of strategies that the city has used over the years, so the city directleased programs, like our former d. P. H. Units. There are mohcdleased units, so part of this program, if we were able to subsidize it, would go to mohcd, but most of this is in the master lease portfolio, which as the supervisor mentioned, are some of our older parts of our portfolio. Next slide. And just briefly, we havent we havent identified a Funding Source, so, you know, on the margins, this impacts our ability to do new things, but we havent yet identified an ongoing Funding Source for this issue, so it would require a general funding enhancement for some of these costs going forward. And thats all i have. Im happy to take questions. Thank you very much. Chair fewer thank you very much. Can we hear from the b. L. A. , please . Yes. Thank you, members of the committee. Our report covers much of the ground that has already been covered by supervisor haney and director whitley from the department of homelessness. We just want to point out the impact of the amount of this legislation. Based on the report by the department, this would be about 6 million a year. That could end up being a general fund item, although we dont know that at this point. Im available for any questions you may have. Chair fewer thank you so much. Any questions from my colleagues at all . Seeing none, i just wanted to mention that as budget chair, i was really happy to see this item on the agenda and the impact that it has on peoples live, and i was happy to see that we were going to expand it and institutionalize it in our city services. Supervisor walton, i see you in the queue. Supervisor walton thank you so much, chair fewer, and i just wanted to check in per the report from h. S. H. In terms of identified Funding Sources. I know we havent gotten a complete report from ocoh on housing recommendations in terms of prop c. I know we havent finalized what possibilities may exist from if we have ongoing eraf support, but im just wondering, whats the conversation been at the table around some support from prop c or other resources that may come online . Through the chair, gigi whitley. We acquired funding to pilot it, as the supervisor explained. We were not able to identify resources in our General Fund Budget. Our General Fund Budget was reduced in items this year because resources needed to be shifted over are to covid. This was not part of our emergency request for an Immediate Release of reserves. Were really focused on the immediate rehousing plan and resources needed for that, but certainly would be happy to provide information related to that as the board considers this going forward. Chair fewer sure. Supervisor walton, as this being my third year on the budget and finance and second year as chair, i think the amount it probably at the top of what this might cost, and the resolution actually says, this ordinary actually says it will take effect in 2023, although we hope it will be sooner. And that population, we might see a lower population that it may be affecting, but to be honest, 6 million out of our general fund out of 13 billion i feel is minimal in comparison to the cost if these people were to lose their housing and not stay in Supportive Housing. I think that cost would be much more. So having said that, i think ill open this up on Public Comment. Weve had people waiting to speak and give their Public Opinion oh, i just called for the b. Will. A. Report and Public Comment. Call for Public Comment. Clerk yes. [agenda item read]. Operator yes, we currently have 30 callers in the queue. Clerk excuse me. Madam chair, before we accept the first caller, could you please indicate how many minutes you would like to provide to the caller . Chair fewer yes. We are providing one minute to each caller. Clerk mr. Tue, please queue in the first caller. Operations are checking to see if there are callers in the queue. Please let us know if there are callers that are ready. For those who have not done so, please press star, three to be entered to the queue. For those who have not already done so, please call in to provide Public Comment. Opera operator madam clerk, we still have 30 callers in the queue. Clerk madam chair, how long are you allowing for each caller . Chair fewer based on the number of callers, well allow one minute for each speaker. Hello, chair fewer and members. Im [inaudible] the chairman of dish. Currently, some tenants in Supportive Housing face 50 of their income towards rent. This practice is unintentionally unfair, and it itll cost the city less than 6 million a year, and itll be an economic game changer for tenants who will finally have 40 reduction in their rent cost that they so desperately need. Id like to thank supervisor haney for his work on this. Please bring equity to Supportive Housing rent. We urge you to vote yes. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. I just wanted to note that there are currently 50 callers in the queue and 36 listening. Next caller, please. Hello . Clerk hello. Please proceed. Hello, board of supervisors. My name is cherie green, and i live in San Francisco. [inaudible] are black, seniors, and disabled folks. They understand concern about impending services, yet we cant ignore this matter on the budget accordingly. Why not invest in our community and help black and brown people pay their rent . The cost of this Public Health crisis is far more traumatic than the cost of supporting 30 right now. Livelihoods are at risk. Im asking the budget and finance committee to vote yes to get rents down for all tenants of permanent support h tive housing. Supportive housing. Thank you very much. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hello, supervisors. [inaudible] in the tenderloin and p. U. C. Im here to represent [inaudible] who i propose that the rent be lowered for the people in the housing, and i want to say that i feel that this is a good idea that they do this because right now, people are struggle and theyre suffering, and i think that if you guys go ahead and say yes to this, itll be best thing that youve done in a while, and itll really affect the morale of the people. So im looking forward to it, and i hope you are, too. Thank you so much. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Good afternoon, committee members. My name is paul. I live and work in San Francisco in the tenderloin. I am here to support supervisor haneys legislation, and i implore the budget and finance committee to vote yes on the ordinance. Unaffordable living, the residents in question are disproportionately at risk of contracting coronavirus. Observations that the program is too expensive sends a message to the tenants that their lives are not worth that cost. It is rare that we are given such an obvious opportunity between right and wrong, i would ask the committee to recognize the dignity that hangs in the balance and urge you to vote yes on supervisor haneys to keep our brothers and sisters shelters haneys efforts to keep our brothers and sisters sheltered. Thank you for your time, and i yield the rest of my time. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hello, caller . Hello, this is ann quinton with connor house. I know many of you supervisors around the table. I was with meals on wheels for 11 years. I think a lot of us are aware of this rent relief issue. What i have come to find out after being at connor house for several months, it is the most critical issue for people at connor house, and it is sometimes the main issue why people cant say at connor house, so if there is something significant that comes up to them, they are going to have to choose to go back to living on the street as opposed to stay in Supportive Housing. As many of us have pointed out, its a system issue, its a legacy issue. Connor house started in 1960. It was one of the first agencies to provide Supportive Housing, and thats the situation that we find ourselves living in. Its a situation that we find many residents in i ask you now to vote yes for the campaign and honor the people [indiscernible] thank you. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker please. Hi my name is tania. Im a resident of district 8 and a teacher at city college in San Francisco. Supportive housing is designed to be affordable for the people who need it to quote the center for budget and public policy, priorities the board of housing is combines Affordable Housing with intensive coordinated services to help people struggling with chronic physical and Mental Health issues maintain stable housing and receive appropriate healthcare. If they arent 30 or lower they are not affordable. If the city is serious about housing in San Francisco especially during the pandemic there should be no question about supporting this legislation. Thank you for your time. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker please. Board of supervisors my name is harlow. I live an