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The 1st to do so, since its founder now to to me wrapping up a week Long Congress in beijing, the great hall of the people she unveiled a new pullet Bureau Standing committee, which is filled with sheila thousands of people have been displaced by days of violence in sudan, Blue Nile State fighting between tribes has killed more than 200 and injured many more. Security forces have now been deployed. It was affected by the fighting are in desperate need of medical and humanitarian assistance. Start out as air is up next with indonesian president , joker widow on the back, one you see straight off to that life now mm. With im so far from the truck that bracket angel pallets and indonesia. For the 1st time, indonesia holds the presidency of 20 of the Worlds Largest economies known as the g. 20. The motto of the summit, if fully but some up on people to be quite recovered together, recover stronger. But with world powers the fight it over to warn you cray, its still gotten us even possible. And what other challenges does the summit we present for indonesia . Will russian president vladimir put in a sam, some of the questions we put to the indonesian providence joker. We, dodo talked to al jazeera, ah president joker, we dont of in asia. Thank you so much for talking to al jazeera. You have for invited me to a very unusual location for a president ial interview, but we will allow, reveal to the audience. So the reason is why we are here later, but 1st i want to ask you about this very Important International geopolitical meeting that you are organizing right now, did she 20 and its happening at a very, very difficult time. Globally, you have invited to both president Vladimir Putin and there followed me zalinski or for ukraine. They have both confirmed that they will attend the meeting some by that the need until, but now they still express their willingness to attend the meeting question. The situation is not easier than and dare in addition, the rivalry that is present basha gets more and more pronounced. However, were still expect, dan put in with him and president lensky will be able to attend this meeting to foster room for dialogue and to find solutions you have seen, of course, also the images are coming out of ukraine and civilians being targeted by the russian nurse military as it crossed your mind, have you considered of expelling president put in from the meeting because some leaders are calling him or they have accused him of for committing war crimes. Have you considered him not inviting him . Oh im, its so really challenging situation. It was, it is not an easy matter. Setting up a dialogue space is also not simple. Since the a rivalry is getting more intense, thats what we want to bridge like. But once again, its not simple that could be that motor. But some later say they want to isolate breath and put in for what is happening in ukraine. You say we want, we need to talk to him. It to be that isolating doesnt solve the problem that when youre 2nd mother, but rather i can to so it just makes it worse. I like a young filing billing. But whats important here is how were to make a dialogue of were on the or negotiation to produce agreements as back up. If other lead us said that he has committed war crimes, do you agree with them . Again, this would be better resolved through discussion with tables by sitting together to find a common solution but not the sanctions. So what would be your ideal solution . What would be your best outcome of the g 20 regarding marcella or la guardia. Again, it is crucial to provide room for dialogue and therefore through dialogue. It is expected that an agreement that will be formed until after an agreement is formed. Again, when a cease fire will happen. If a cease fire has happened, the war will and then an dish will follow. You have her mad, both lead us, right. You and you can travel to moscow to meet vladimir, put in. And also you went to a key of were you trying to mediate in the conflict the jew tried to make some kind of agreement and did it fail . Yeah, well i will discuss day a lot about them. Oh, but these are considering that more we want that with stability on uniform geo politics in your class and also stability on World Politics and also World Economy into to promote them one better Economic Growth or not like what we have now. And my purpose to go there was to carry out the humanitarian and please missions, especially in preventing foot crisis worker. So my main concern was on foot crisis at the time because president zalinski said that it has 22000000 tons of grained in ukraine way. And, and the new harvest as run 55000000 tons, meaning there is 77000000 tons of grain. Meanwhile, in russia, president put to reveal that the country has 130000000 tons of grain. In total, we have 270000000 tons a very large number. If the style is not distributed, then there will be a foot crisis balance. Thats the problem that we want to breach at the time. Some people say that the solution would just simply be a russia bladder, flared me, put in withdrawal from ukraine, and then the war is over. Do you see after you met him, that there is a, a possibility . Do you see that there might be an opening or is it just getting worse . That again . Yeah, the most important thing the 1st, but at some point is to sit together in one table to have negotiation to yall, to have a dialogue like that to have a communication. Therefore we have solution today. I dont want to speculate about any other matters than that, but theres also going to be at present, joe biden, or teaching pena is expected to come as well. And do you feel maybe there is going to be a lot of heated discussions . It doesnt matter if the dialogue or meeting situation gets hit it no problem on your mama, even if the meeting gets he had it, its not a problem. So long as there is a solution. There is a dialogue, i think than about why not to not bother competition and rivalry, are you the one common . No problem, as long as they are managed properly to avoid open conflict. And after the problem is over there, from Global Economic recovery will happen. Without that, we cannot talk about economic recovery because were not only talking about conflict in europe right now, but sanctions in your reach and here in asia are also increasing. Also because of the military muscles that china is and showing how worried are you that your country that their south china see that thats going to be affected . Yeah, i was neither only talking about the rivalry in the war in ukraine, but also the rivalry in the region in the and then once again, okay. And why dont expect prosperity without stability. Therefore though, we in asia young, we will continue to maintain that the in the Pacific Region can be peaceful and to avoid the potential for open conflict. Because Economy Development and growth will only take place when there is a political and joe political stability by an obese will. That is it come out to them about from there that the, that Economic Development will happen to me of empathy. You have met their present teaching ping also recently. What was your message to him to, to calm down the situation . Well, oh, 1st emma indonesia deerish to a free and active foreign policy. Therefore, indonesia prioritized as cooperation. Haden is and collaboration with any one and any country based on the principle of Mutual Respect, nothing. And that the principle of mutual benefit. So the peoples republic of china is indonesia Strategic Partner and im in america. The u. S. Is also indonesia Strategic Partner. I can have a dialogue with president joe biden. I can also talk to my president , she jumping me and i want to invite both of them were to discuss and find a common solution fully the region and also for the world. They havent mapped directly. Right, joe. Biden and teaching thing, do you think that theyre gonna meet in body and together with the 2 of them . That is why they are having a dialogue. Space is crucial longer so therefore the common solution can be found. So you think that there, there will be progress after the meeting. There will be some movement during the g 20. If day look, space is available and discussion can occur. Again, we will find a solution. We indeed there the, there we dont want to. And on a deal to have any inclination because indonesia, again, a dears, to open and active foreign politics. Therefore, indonesia can be accepted in any country or want it. That is but what we want to get. Ive got to create a beneficial discussion. But in our nature, has a voice in the un, no General Assembly and has been also resolutions for example, this week against russian annexation of tower prison, ukraine, indonesia. Oh voted and for and favor of this resolution. So youll, youll make choices where indonesia stance in this conflict. Yeah. Well indeed, at one point, we must decide we must decide this carefully when were in order for of our neutrality to stay apparent. But visa gal. Yep. And, and once again, indonesia has are always a dear to my and respected international law. And the un charter was particularly regarding the respect of my pan for territorial shall ranty and the territorial integrity of every country. But for example, china is infesting in your country. 40000000000. 00 compared to the United States, only 9000000000. 00. Is the influence of china not getting much higher, much bigger than the United States, for example, is as the United States losing its battle. Here we are. We open up our program and to see about anyone dont look at and to any country that im in terms of investment. For example, we welcome every country. However, i guess if a country react us, oh, look faster and has a better communication. Then you cannot blame indonesia almost if we choose to go to a certain country. So commonly, cathy is the communication is not so good from the United States. No, we have good communication with all countries, but so they do like a bed. Certain countries have more intense communication for collaboration, you know, collaboration must be mutually beneficial and indonesia as ready to partner with anyone with any country. And once again, based on the principle of Mutual Respect and mutual benefit. And you have a feeling that maybe the United States doesnt respect, show enough respect or is questioning too much or, or maybe, or maybe because of the physical distance. Maybe its just a physical distance or, oh, do you think maybe maybe oh, you talked about, i can be that bizarre medusa. Besides, i cannot urge a country to be close to indonesia, right . We talked about the crisis right in the world right now. There is a recession also dooming in, in europe, and is an Energy Crisis we have for food. Crisis of prices are going up in the initial inflation is still relatively low compared to the night 4. 00 compared to other countries. But you had to raise the fuel prices, you lower the very costly subsidies. There is a risk that the food prices in indonesia will go up. How worried are you . Because your, your population is still fragile. If you look at their income, of course. Yeah. Her. But i am worried for sure. Body. I see that sir. All country leaders are concerned about the same thing and are according to the world food program. Up to 825000000 people. Go to bed. Yeah. It was hungry on, you know, this is what all country leaders must feel, the empathy, how difficult there are peoples lives are to day that including in indonesia. And the key here is to re open food supply chain. Regarding indonesia, i found in the past 3 years, indonesia stopped importing rice a with sufficient supply all we can control and stabilize the price that we can manage it. And every day i monitor the market, i checked the price out of kenya regarding rise. An ammonia, gar, legs, and eggs, hello, and also chill is every day you look at it here. Every time i visit a certain region, i checked the foot price because it is very important now. And i have asked will to the governors and mayors to use the contingency budget than an for the percent of the general. A Location Fund from the federal government can be used to stabilize rising price for goods and services, especially behind food inflation. In this is how we fight inflation. I saw that it is not as high as in other countries. So yeah, youre concerned but still optimistic that indonesia can write this through. I am i worried about im still optimistic that we can manage this one or Economic Growth in the 2nd quarter of 2022 reached a 5. 4 percent and our inflation in our goes rich, 4. 9 percent. I think we should be grateful for that, but its important that there will be peace in the world and no wars that will drive prices up. That is what we are worried about. That a war and rivalry between countries will not get better or even worse. It, oh yeah, thats what we are afraid of because i have the i am, everything has predicted that the Global Economy by 2023 will decrease shoe below 2. 7 percent from what was previously estimated to and that will experience recovery that would affect in asia as well, danny and true, and that can affect indonesia as well. Were talking about the Energy Transition and indonesia has the largest and nickel reserves in the world. Youre very active. Now were trying to make car factories in fast and indonesia to have renewable cars like electric cars. How is that going . Because she had an agreement with an element hillen mosque, but we havent heard anything after that. Well, oh, ive had 2 phone calls with ellen, musk valley and moody, and i have met him once, ad space act about ad. My coordinating ministers may be, have met him more than 10 times. What is, why mediately laying it at the moment . But you ask ill and musk about that. It will be there for sure. In the nisha is ready to become kasey and an electric Car Development site for any country for any company, and for every one, but doesnt have to do something with the investment climate. And in anesha that some countries may be in europe and United States are reluctant to invest in the industry. Sorry. Well, because we have the market either the consumers are there, the demand is there. I that im so we have them apart. Are you surprised that they are not all coming very quickly . Or maybe investors consider the her current oral economy situation. However, with the why the indonesia has done including a structural reform for investment, we have omnibus low, a massive and evenly distributed Infrastructure Development in java and other regions. And now think this is an appealing factor, and i think the opportunity to invest is now, although the a Global Economic situation is not really that well. But again, it comes to the inverse church and companies will make the investment to indonesia. Indonesia has been criticized, forwarded the deforestation. Right . Its also been called the 3rd largest image image of Greenhouse Gas after china and the United States because of Land Clearing you have taken a lot of measures to reforest the reforestation and an a stop. Also the export of palm oil a couple of months ago, which has been i think it changed again or at the moment. But my question is, do you feel that the criticism on indonesia or for its deforestation is in a way unfair because its coming from countries who have already developed their economies and their industries and that you feel that you have to balance this dilemma the whole time you know, 1st of all of them before you know, even go there. So yeah, i mean, every year dr. Pardon, forest fires always happen. Ah, and with it, you know, has burnt more than 2000000 hackers of land and in 2015 we have successfully mitigated it. And the forest fire case has decreased by up to 85 percent. Second, we have restored the pete lens in the last 5 years. Okay, we have done that. And then starting t