Ah, but political satire is at least alive and kicking in the u. K. Victoria gay to be al jazeera ah. All right, time for around that now the top stories on edge is it a former Prime Minister, Boris Johnson has pulled out to the race for britains leadership. Former finance minister richey soon act is now the front runner. In a contest to succeed, liz, trusses Prime Minister and conservative party leader. Ukraine says russian allegations in my use and explosive laced with radioactive material, are absurd and dangerous rushes. The fastness, as reported to have raised concerns in calls with his counterparts in the u. K. France and turkey. Moscow has provided no evidence to back the claims harry force. It has more from keith and another potential escalation, even if it doesnt turn out to be an escalation on the battlefield. I think we can say to call this an escalation in terms of the magic rhetoric being used in the sheer number of calls. 4 of them on the same day to the french, the turkish, the british, and the americans all making this same claim that russia has. It says intelligence of the formation of some kind of dirty bomb for use by ukraine to blame russia for carrying out some kind of Nuclear Explosion inside ukraine. Now this is something that has been, as you say, utterly refuted, ukraines president has urged people to save electricity off the russian, a tax on power facilities. More than a 1000000 ukrainian households are experiencing blackouts off to wave strikes. In the past 2 weeks, keith says attacking civilians ahead of winter amounts to terrorism. At least 9 people have been killed in an attack on a hotel in somalia, as chabad claimed responsibility for the siege and the southern port city of que smile. The un office for humanitarian affairs says at least 23000 people have been displaced by on violence in a democratic republic of congo. Fighting started on thursday between the d. R c. Troops and the 23 armed group in shooting agency say about 2500 people of fled to neighboring uganda. At least the 133 children have died from acute Kidney Injury in indonesia. Thats also linked to chemicals found in some cough syrup. Se, those are the headlines right now. Its talk to edge 0. Sears from al jazeera on the go and me tonight, out is there is only mobile app. Is that the, this is where we dissects, analyze, to find. And i guess going from out is there is mobile app available in your favorite app . Still just sat for it and tapped are made a new app from audi. 0 means that you think it it with unfair, faster from the truck, act up rapid angel pallets. And indonesia, for the 1st time, indonesia holds the presidency of 20 of the Worlds Largest economies known as the g. 20. The motto of the summit is fully but some of punk kid libby quite recovered together, recover stronger. But with world powers, we fight it over to war. And you cray, if togetherness, even possible. And what other challenges does the summit we present for indonesia . Will russian president Vladimir Putin. A sam, some of the questions we put to the indonesian president joker we, dodo talked to al jazeera. Ah president joker, we dont of indonesia. Thank you so much for talking to al jazeera. You have for invited me to a very unusual location for a president ial interview, but we will allow, reveal to the audience. So what the reasons why we are here later. But 1st i want to ask you about this very Important International geopolitical meeting that you are organizing. Right now, did she 20 and its happening at a very, very difficult time. Globally. You have invited to both president Vladimir Putin and there followed me zalinski or for ukraine. They have both confirmed that they will attend the meeting some by that the until. But now these still manya express their willingness to attend the meeting question. The situation is not easier than an day. In addition, the rivalry that is present basha gets more and more pronounced. However, were still expect, dan put in with you and president zalinski will be able to attend this meeting to foster room for dialogue and to find solutions you have seen of course, also the images are coming out of ukraine and civilians being targeted by the russian nurse military as it crossed your mind, have you considered of expelling president putin from the meeting because some leaders are calling him or they have accused him of for committing war crimes. Have you considered him not inviting him . Oh im, its so really challenging. Situations like that is not an easy matter. Setting up a dialogue space is also not simple. Since the a rivalry is getting more intense, thats what we want to bridge like. But once again, its not simple without motor, but some later say they want to isolate breath and put in for what is happening in ukraine. You say we want, we need to talk to him. If that isolating doesnt solve the problem, that were 2nd martha, but rather i got to so it just makes it worse. I like a young filing building. But whats important here is how were to make a dialogue of were on the or negotiation to produce agreements of back up if other lead us say that he has committed war crimes. Do you agree with them . Again, this would be better resolved through discussion tables by sitting together to find a common solution but not the sanctions. So what would be your ideal solution . What would be your best outcome of the g 20 regarding marcella. War but gagging again, it is crucial to provide a thing room for dialogue and therefore through dialogue. It is expected that an agreement will be formed until after an agreement is formed. Again, when a cease fire will happen. If a cease fire has happened, the war will and then an a dish will follow. You have her mad, both lead us, right. You and you can travel to moscow to meet Vladimir Putin and also you went to a key of were you trying to mediate in the conflict the jew try to make some kind of agreement and did it fail . Yes, well i will discuss day a lot about the mate. Oh, but these are considering that mom, we want that which stability on your for geo politics in your class and also so ability on World Politics and also World Economy into to promote them when a better Economic Growth is not like what we have now and a my papers i to go there was to carry out the humanitarian and please missions, especially in preventing foot crisis worker. So my main concern was on foot crisis at the time because president zalinski said that it has 22000000 tons of grained in ukraine way. And the new harvest as 155000000 tons. Meaning there is 77000000 tons of grain. Meanwhile, in russia, president would to reveal that the country has 130000000 tons of grain. In total, we have 270000000 tons a very large number. If the stock is not distributed, then there will be a foot crisis balance. Thats the problem that we want to breach at the time. Some people say that the solution would just simply be a russia bladder flared me, put in, withdraws from ukraine, and then the war is over. Do you see after you met him that there is a, a possibility . Do you see that there might be an opening or is it just getting worse . That again . Yeah, the most important thing the 1st, but i, my point is to sit together in one table to have negotiation to yall, to have a dialogue like that you have a communication. Therefore, we have solution that i dont want to speculate about any other matters than that, but theres also going to be at present, joe biden, or teaching pena is expected to come as well. And do you feel maybe there is going to be a lot of heated discussions . It doesnt matter if the dialogue or emitting situation gets heated . No problem on your planet, even if the meeting gets he had it, its not a problem. So long as there is a solution, there is a dialogue i think, can i by why not and above that competition and rivalry are the why common no problem. As long as they are managed properly to avoid open conflict program. And after the problem is over there, from Global Economic recovery will happen. Without that, we cannot talk about economic recovery because were not only talking about conflict in europe right now, but sanctions in your reach and here in asia are also increasing. Also because of the military muscles that china is and showing how worried are you that your country that the South China Sea that thats going to be affected . Yeah, i was neither only talking about the rivalry in the war he, in ukraine, but also the revelry in the region any. And then once again, okay. And why dont expect prosperity without stability. Therefore though, we in asia young, we will continue to maintain that the in the Pacific Region can be peaceful and will to avoid the potential for open conflict. Because Economy Development and growth will only take place when there is a political and geopolitical stability by an new piece. Will that, is it come out to them about from there that the that Economic Development will happen . We havent been you have met her breton teaching, ping alto recently. What was your message to him to, to calm down the situation . Well, oh, 1st emma, indonesia deerish to a free and active foreign policy. Therefore, indonesia prioritize as cooperation in it and collaboration with anyone and any country based on the principle of Mutual Respect, nothing. And that the principle of mutual benefit. So the peoples republic of china is indonesia Strategic Partner and im in america. The u. S. Is also indonesia Strategic Partner. I can have a dialogue with president joe biden. I can also talk to them by president. She jumping me and i want to invite both of them were to discuss and find a common solution fully the region and also for the world. They havent mapped directly, right, joe biden. And teaching thing. Do you think that theyre gonna meet in body and together with the 2 of them . That is why they having a dialogue space is crucial anger, so therefore the common solution can be found. So you think that there the well be progress after the meeting to will be some movement during the 20 . If day look, space is available and discussion can occur. Again, we will find a solution. We indeed we dont want to stand on a deal to have any inclination because indonesia, again, a dears, to open and active foreign politics. Therefore, indonesia can be accepted in and the country are one that is about what we want to get. Ive got to create a beneficial discussion, but indonesia has a voice in the un, no General Assembly and has been also resolutions for example, this week against russian annexation of tower prison, ukraine, indonesia. Oh voted and for and favor of this resolution. So youll, youll make choices where indonesia stance in this conflict. Yeah, well indeed, at one point, we must decide. We must decide that this carefully mumbled in order for the, for our neutrality to stay a parent, but please call yet and. And once again, indonesia has always a dear to my and respected international law. And the un charter was particularly regarding the respect of my pan for territorial sovereignty and the territorial integrity of every country. But for example, china is infesting in your country. 40000000000. 00 compared to the United States, only 9000000000. 00. Is the influence of china not getting much higher, much bigger than the United States, for example, is as the United States losing its battle. Here we are. Were open up. Im glad to see about anyone dont look at an to any country in terms of investment. For example, we welcome every country. However, as if a country react us no faster and has a better communication, then you cannot blame indonesia almost if we choose to go to a certain country. So commonly kathy is. Communication is not so good from the United States. No, we have good communication with all countries, but they do like a bed. Certain countries have more intense communication. For collaboration. You know, collaboration must be mutually beneficial and indonesia as ready to partner with anyone with any country. And once again, based on the principle of Mutual Respect and mutual benefit, and you have a feeling that may be the United States doesnt respect, show enough respect or is questioning too much or, or maybe, or maybe because of the physical distance. Maybe its just a physical this then a oh you thing maybe maybe oh, you talked about as i can be that bizarre. What does that besides, i cannot urge a country to be close to indonesia, right . We talked about the crisis right in the world right now. There is a recession also dooming in, in europe, and is an Energy Crisis we have for food. Crisis of prices are going up. In initial inflation is still relatively low compared to the 94. 9. 9 compared to other countries. But you had to raise the fuel prices, you lower the very costly subsidies. There is a risk that the food prices in indonesia will go up. How worried are you . Because your, your population is still fragile. If you look at their income, of course. Yeah. But i am worried for sure body. I see that all country leaders are concerned about the same thing and are according to the world food program. Up to 825000000 people that go to bed young. It was hungry on the no, this is what all country leaders must feel, the empathy, how difficult their peoples lives are to day that including in indonesia. And the key here is to re open food supply chain. Regarding indonesia, i found in the past 3 years, indonesia stopped importing rice with sufficient supply all we can control and stabilize the price. We can manage it all and every day i monitor the market. I check the price out of kenya regarding rise and pneumonia. Ill gar legs, and eggs. Hello and also chill is every day you look at it. Yeah. That every time i visit a certain region, i checked the full price because it is very important now. And i have asked will to the governors and mayors to use the contingency budget than an for the so percent of the general Allocation Fund from the federal government can be used to stabilize rising price for goods and services, especially behind food inflation in this is how we fight inflation. Sure that it is not as high as in other countries. So yeah, youre concerned but still optimistic that indonesia can ride this through. I am i worried, but im still optimistic that we can ah, manage this one or Economic Growth in the 2nd quarter of 2022 reached a 5. 4 percent and our inflation in august rich 4. 9 percent. I think we should be grateful for that, but its important that there will be peace in the world and no wars that will drive prices up. That is what we are worried about. That a war, an rivalry between countries will not get better or even worse. It will, yeah, thats what were afraid of because i and the i m f. C has predicted that the global economy, by 2023 will decrease a shoe below 2. 7 percent from what was previously estimated to and that will expire is recovery that would affect in aneesha as well. Danny and true. And that can affect indonesia as well. Were talking about the Energy Transition and indonesia has the largest sir nichol reserves in the world. Youre very active. Now. Were trying to make cars factories in fast and indonesia to have renewable cars like electric cars. How is that going . Because she had an agreement with an element hillen mosque, but we havent heard anything after that. Well, oh, ive had 2 phone calls with ellen, musk valley and moody, and i have met him once. Ad space act about ad. My coordinating ministers may be, have met him more than 10 times. What is, why mediately laying it at the moment or you ask ill and musk about that . It will be there for sure. In the nature is ready to become a posse, on an electric Car Development site for any country, for any company, and for every one. But does it have to do something with the Investment Climate and in anesha that some countries may be in europe and United States are reluctant to infest in the industry. And asada will because we have the market either the consumers are there, the demand is there at him. So we have them up. Are you surprised that they are not all coming very quickly . Or maybe investors consider the ah, current World Economy situation. However, with the why the indonesia has done including a structural reform for investment, we have omnibus low at massive and evenly distributed Infrastructure Development in java and other regions. And now think this is an appealing factor, and i think the opportunity to invest is now, although the a Global Economic situation is not really that well. But again, it comes to the inverse church and companies will make the investment to indonesia in an age has been criticized, forwarded the deforestation. Right. Its also been called the 3rd largest image image of Greenhouse Gas after china and the United States because of Land Clearing you have taken a lot of measures a to reforest, a reforestation, and an a stop. Also the export of palm oil a couple of months ago. Which has been, i think it changed again an at the moment. But my question is, do you feel that the criticism on indonesia, a for its deforestation is in a way unfair because its coming from countries who have already developed their economies and their industries and that you feel that you have to balance this dilemma the whole time you know, 1st of all of before, you know, even go there. So yeah, i mean, every year dr. Parental forest fires always happen. Ah, and with it, you know, has burned more than 2000000 hackers of land and in 2015 we have successfully mitigated it. And the forest fire case has decreased by up