In the capital. Tripoli, the violence broke out early on saturday. In a heavily populated part of the city of the past week, tripoli has seen a build up of rival forces who had jostling for power. And trina is following the developments in tripoli. Well, at around 1 30 am a local time. Ah, this morning. A classes erupted between a rival, arent groups of those are one that is affiliated with the parallel government. Ah, thats led by fatigue, bush, other and, and, and the other thats loyal to the internationally recognized Prime Minister abdul hamid the labor of clashes then ensued across triply and various areas of it paused for quite a few hours a but then we started again, unprecedented monsoon rainfall has submerged large parts of pakistan, killing more than 900. 00 people. The government has declared a National Emergency and this calling for international health. Ukraine says it has exported 1000000. 00 tons of Agricultural Products so far under a deal broke by the us and turkey last month. Grain has been stuck at black seaports since russia invaded in february. The french president is ending his 3 day visit, while gerry, with the signing of a joint declaration for a renewed partnership. 3 day trip by my norma cron is aimed at healing relations with a former french colony of highs, soured last year after mccormick question. The algerians existence as a nation before the occupation, my french colonizers, quote franciss naming 20 new cardinals. These are life pictures from the vatican. Appointments will be seen as a sign of where the Roman Catholic church is heading in these continues here. Now just there, after the st. Talk to al jazeera, we ask, so the rebounds you speak of is clearly coming at a high cost for airlines and the industry. Whats going wrong . We listen, you were part of the arm struggle in the 19 seventys. If you have any regrets, no, we meet with global news makers. Im talk about the stories that matter on al jazeera i us, i me okay. On todays episode of the strain, were going to look at how Climate Change is made. A community in oregon go to war over water. Their story is told in the 4 lines investigation when the water stopped awards the crisis in americas west is intensifying, deep Historic Division obliterated ecosystems to create agriculture at the expense of our tribes. Thats where your friend since time, the strong pagan away from the we hold lines, investigate how Climate Change his pissing an oregon town. The breaking point war fight, because its in a blood, we are literally to the point that people are gonna start seeing each other. When the war to stop on al jazeera, joining us to talk about the water conflicts that you just saw, that joey from the trailer. Hello, ren hello, emma. Its a nice. Have you all on the stream to day joey. Introduce yourself to our international audience. Tell them who you are, what you do. Hi, my name is joey gentry and i am a member of the clamor tribes. I am not on our official tribal government and i am not an official spokesperson. I just care deeply about my community, my homeland, my home town, and i just want us to heal. Hello bad. Welcome to the stream. Introduce yourself to our global audience. My name is ben duval, and i am a former ah south oh to a california. Along with my wife and 2 daughters regrow alfalfa and we on the claim matriculation project. And im also the president of guns Water Users Association of im not representing the organization than the official capacity here today. Im, im just here much like georgia said as, as just somebody who wants to see see some healing in this community. And this, this, its situation remedy had to handle. Emma introduced herself i, my name is emma maris, im an environmental writer. And i live here in klamath falls, so ive been following this Water Conversation for about 8 years. All right, get to happy ama. All right, so now youve met our line up. What would you like to ask them . Dont you choose . You can ask them anything concerned with the Climate Change in the region that theyre talking about, how it may well be solved, things that you dont understand, come at sections like that. I will try and get your comments into todays shall. Emma, can you help us understand . Very basically, what is the conflict about you could have a conversation among i it had to being backdate to say the least. I explain it, but very briefly. Sure. So there are a large number of farmers and ranchers who use water from the giant lake that we live near by called Upper Klamath Lake. And every year they get a certain amount of water allocated to them by the federal government. This year that amount was 0, and that was extremely stressful for the producers. But the reason that that amount was 0 is because the water in the lake also has other uses, like keeping alive fish in the Upper Klamath Lake and salmon down stream on the way to the ocean, and also watering wildlife refuges that keep migratory birds alive on their way up. So what were looking at here is a bunch of different people who all want the same water and because of Climate Change, the water isnt there when Everybody Needs it. But it used to be that it have a look on my laptop. This is jerry jerry. So adorable fishing. How old are you that jerry . Probably 6 or so . No. You got a big one. I recall that. Yeah. All right, so what change because this is use little joey fishing. You fish with your dad that have a quick look at dad there. This is the water source is now being argued about so fiercely. Reminders from when you were 6 to now what, what happened to this water source . Well, as mentioned, Climate Change is, has changed things, Drought Conditions used to be abnormal, the anomaly, and now theyre becoming the norm. There we have too many consumptive users and not enough water. Basically, the government over allocated over promised a finite resource. And now nature and our waterways cannot deliver enough water to our Agricultural Producers and our fish, which are on the brink of extinction. Theres another level to this in terms of farmers and then Indigenous Peoples relationship to the land. But i want to bring a book thompson, shes from stanford university, Water Resources engineering department. And shes a student. And she explained why Indigenous People in this region of fighting so hard to protect their waterfalls, issues as in Business People and becomes rivers. Everything to us. When the rivers being poorly, we do poorly when we cant get food from a wire. Because there are some populations i dang off because of the drought and water being allocated to other places. Then our diabetes are rates go up and physically killing people. Our families can be together, all of our family has been on the river and when there is no economic income, when there is no practices culturally where we can go under grading more and families get up and spend time. Other places who we are and the people are directly tied to the river. Were literally translate it down or people are literally encompasses everything. Who we are, what it means to be indigenous. So for me, in the wrong requirements, river is a fight for life and death. So then thats one understanding else. Water and the relationship to Indigenous People from that area. Im going to go via my laptop. Hey, can you shed some pictures with this as well . You and your daughters, what do we, what are we looking at hamp then . So we understand your relationship to the land. A more to, to this is me and my daughter saying we did a project were replaced an older inefficient irrigation system with a new one. And thats something that has been going on ongoing and not only on my farm, but throughout clements revelation project, especially in the last 20 years as weve faced reduced allegations we are um, as, as farmers, we feel like were steward of the resource and im speaking for myself we try and stretch the every drop. Ready water as far as we can, and the further we get into these droughts, the more critical it becomes to do that. And we are all constantly trying to adapt and be able to make our systems as, as efficient as possible. But at the end of the day, it does take some water in order to irrigate and sustain of arm. And we have to be economically healthy in order to make the kinds of investments that allow us to be more efficient, that water and thats why droughts and a complete water shut off like we saw this year are particularly devastating to our communities. Because it, it takes away our ability to remain economically viable and to make an, a long Term Investments that help not only my community locally here and as far as agriculture. But the entire watershed is whole. I want to put something to you. Bannon. And this came up in the reporting for my, my colleague, just russian. He was reporting on the fish dying in the, in, in the basin. And, and why the fuss at dying . Im going to play this kit team and id love you to respond at the end of it. Lets take a look. Every year, the cloud of blue green algae clots the water in the lake, state health authorities, where people and their pets to keep out. With nowhere else to go, young, sucker, fish die and mass before reaching adulthood. If you were to have your dog drink that it would become incredibly ill if not kill it this year because of the extreme drought, extracting water farms could put the remaining fish at risk. There is very much a correlation between the quality of this water and the mortality of this fish. And the quality of this water is a direct result of irresponsible agricultural practices. Oh, that ones hot, or is it van . Well theres, theres several different factors that go into that. First i all explain a little bit about the geography of this area on my farm as most of the climate reclamation project, which is a federal irrigation project. It was one of the 1st reclamation projects that was started by us Bureau Reclamation after the reclamation act. I was pass in the early 19 hundreds and it was, it was one of the reasons was because it was recognized that it was such an ideal urge geisha project. Im just the way the geography is the water supply, the incredible soil. So we have here makes it, makes it one of the most efficient your issue projects anywhere. And im an extremely productive, but i am calling about why and the sliding when you, when you talk about at fishing irrigation project ever and why would you sliding articulate that smile . But just in general, i think that what he is working better than is working towards is that hes actually downstream of the lake. The wire he gets is, is, has already been filled with algae before. It even gets anywhere near his property. So its a complicated geography and solving the problem is gonna involve both solving issues of demand for water, which is where ben and his fellow users come in, but also how we fix the quality of the water and the lake itself. And thats gonna involve a lot of different land users and, and farmers further up in the watershed closer to the mountains. I said pen, i was just trying to hurry along because of a responsible, our good cultural practices that either are that note and you will take me on a longer story. Finish that story very quickly show. So the users above over climate blake have more of an impact on their becomes like nuts factors we insure head waters and, um theres, theres some issues and, but again, going back to what i said, it takes us stable farms that have the number of resources in order to update systems and change practices in order to fix those issues and were getting there, but nothing happens overnight takes time at so johnny, this is not just about agricultural practices, theres something much deeper going on here. Can you explain . Because its theres, theres a rift between the indigenous communities and the farming communities jelly. Tell us more. Yes. And this is as difficult for me to stay as it is for an Agricultural Producer to hear we are unable to implement solutions which are in the fields and in the irrigation ditches and in ecosystem and habitat restoration. We are unable to implement those solutions because were blinded by racism. We are, we keep trying to undermine tribal treaty law, water law, and we can the endangered species act. And we keep kidding ourselves by saying this is an efficient irrigation system. When it isnt, its over a century year old engineering with no for thought or consideration. That water is a finite resource. And here we are in experiencing Climate Crisis and there is not enough water to go around. We cant say that were efficient irrigation system. When we dont even meter are consumptive use. So we cant, we cant claim that efficiency when its not we we, we dont even know our actual use usage. Im from and, and thats, thats something that i, thats difficult to. Um, yeah. And i, i understand where youre going, um, but i can tell you this either percent of the water you some by far as needed. And i know exactly how much im putting, how much im putting where and i can look that in or not, but not all foreigners, roy and stereotyping farms is as bad as, as stereotyping in a group of people. And theres, theres a shift in, in, in, and you can definitely see more and more farms are updating and becoming more modern in the practices. I havent got any, ill tell you would you agree that that, that the producer is the farmers and the Indigenous People probably agree on 85 percent of what needs to get done in order to fix the basin in terms of more restoration in around the lake and, you know, support for farmers but potentially to have more flexibility in some of their contracts. Theres a whole long list. Whats frustrating for me as an, as an observer is that i think that theres a lot of agreement. But there is this sort of sense of tension that stops that agreement from happening there, there can be, um, and i know um, you know, 11 comment that was made was that theres, there was a lot of broken promises to the Indigenous People and, and theres Something Else that im in complete agreement with because i havent promised from United States government that saying yes, were gonna deliver this much water to your farm every year. So thank you have a right to that. And so are both victims broken promises size of any if i just made his help out, what is he may not have seen when the war to stop the the document . Yeah, i highly recommend you watch it. Its streaming right now. Im the samus of the homestead, as, as they were, were told by the federal government at the time that they could have an infinite amount of water. You can come here and farm and you can have as much money as you like. The Indigenous People whose lands a gang to live on to walk on to farm. So also told that in the lake that they could have an infinite amount of fish that belong to them. That was part of the treaty. Federal government promised 2 things to, to different communities. And now we have Climate Change. And now we have a situation where those policies are not being hacked or whose promise is should be cat. First. That is the climate just as part of the conversation up, do i want to go back to what you were saying . Well, you just brought up racism like this is racism. I want to bring in, i a farmer called leroy. And then we can just have him steal ourselves, how he talks about the Indigenous People and this conflict that is going on right now. Here he is. My not work with them. You know, have you ever tried to work with a gimme with the what . A gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme. Not like working with the dr. Gimme gimme gimme gimme. They dont give you. Gimme gimme . Gimme gimme joey. Why cant miss conversation . Walk out that. Thats an example of why and the road blocks we have, we that he, the human eyes does. Im to the point of a gimme. And that failure to recognize us as people or the failure to recognize the strength of our nation to nation treaty is preventing us from implementing those solutions in the fields and those irrigation. Just a Irrigation Systems were fighting the wrong fight in court. Im for decades irrigators have tried to come after our water rights, which have been reaffirmed water and treaty rights, which have been reaffirmed in the court for the past 20 years. And at this point, so much time has passed that we in response to leave or his comment as being a gimme. I think that we are legally affirmed in our position and morally confirmed and valid. There is no more room to give. We are in crisis. If are locally and globally, we have as few as 50. 00 to 60. 00 harvest less before complete oil desertification. And so not only are our tribe trying to preserve this resource for us locally, but globally implementing more Regenerative Agriculture Solutions is going to save humanity. We have to find solutions and the 1st step is addressing the strength of our treaty and acknowledging the injustices we felt like i had i was just going to point out that, you know, i think that the route of this is the fact that these promises that were made are not all able to be fulfilled at the same time. In the current regime, it is important to realize that the treaty is 864, and most of those home setting promises came later. So if youre going to look at and thats how the courts have tended to look at it, is that 1st in time, meaning the oldest promise takes precedence over the newer promises. So that is why you might hear people say, well, the tribes hold all the cards when it comes to water because the courts have said that they have the 1st in time right to the water. Whats tricky, i thought all this is that were suing each other instead of getting together and coming up with solutions that work for everyone in the basin. Thats what we really need to be doing. And everybody would rather be working together than suing each other. So it