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ALJAZ UpFront October 8, 2022

So again, im fully battle with the headlines on, ill just around the main bridge linking crimea with mainland russia has been damaged, shafter and explosion. Russian Authorities Say it was caused by a trunk bomb and that at least 3 people died in the last mom advance has more on the russian response to the incident. The deputy chairman of the National Security council dmitri met yet. He said that one of the, one of the ukrainian leaders talked about the need to strike this particular bridge. And he said, i wish he understands what the consequences on what the retaliatory goals will be in and not the statement he actually gave in july. He said that if this bridge, or if crimea is hit, that will bring at that day of judge to ukraine. There are multiple demonstrations taking place across. He won against the government handling of the death of 22 year old, martha armine presently braimer. You see earlier face photos as he visited a female, only university in tehran. Ali say one person has died, but officers were not involved. At least 2 palestinians have been killed and 11 others injured by Israeli Forces in the occupied west bank. There were targeted during an israeli raid in the jenin refugee camp. Sources say one of the detained is the brother of a member of the Islamic Jihad group. Booking of fossils government has held a state funeral for soldiers killed by our kinder linked fighters last month. Fighters attacked a convoy delivering supplies to the north of the country. Officials, se, 10 of the victims were civilians and 27 where soldiers, 3 people are still missing. Labor unions in the Czech Republic are holding a demonstration against the sewing costs of food and energy. This is a 2nd rally in the capital prag, in 10 days, have been protests over rocketing Energy Prices in germany as well. Thousands of people have gather in berlin for the demonstration, which is organized by the far right, a f d party. And at least 10 people have been killed in island after an explosion at a service station rescue calls are searching through level for victims in the village of chris law. In donegal, the blasts destroy the petrol station and damaged apartments. Those are the headlines on al jazeera up front is up. Next there with us. Bangladesh is moving tens of thousands of ringo missing from the Worlds Largest refugee until removed by one of these investigate knives. Ill just is the amazon reaching the point of no return from deforestation and fires to land grabs in mining. Scientists say we may be seeing the end of the planets largest rain forest, the effect condemning a 1000000 species to extinction and are likely irreversible acceleration of the climate crisis. That conversation is coming up. But 1st weeks after devastating floods displaced millions in pakistan. The country is still struggling with the aftermath. This week the United Nations upped its humanitarian appeal for the country from 160000000. 00 to 816000000. 00. This is not the 1st time pakistan has felt the effects of the climate crisis. So what role should the International Community play in the wake of such disasters . Earlier i sat down with pakistans minister of state for foreign affairs. This weeks headliner. He know bonnie car in a romani car. Thank you so much for joining me on up front. Over 1500 people have died as a result of catastrophic floods in pakistan. Another 33000000 people have been displaced or at least one 3rd of the country is under water. Diseases are spreading rapidly, flood damage is, or its expected to exceed over 30000000000. 00. Youre here at the un general assembly. Can you talk to me a bit about the scope of the devastation in pakistan . Okay, so when you look at numbers which are in tens of millions, we dehumanized the number, the number guns, a number, and the humans a sort of leave and the number stays with us, right . So let me define, i put it in perspective. This is the population, the size of all of the kingdom of saudi arabia. This is a population that is larger than all of militia. This is an area which is the same size as the whole of the united kingdom. Thats the skill of the disaster. And then on top of that, ah, its a disaster utilize, weve been saying it is not of our making, luckily attribute will science now exists to tell us that this is a Climate Change crisis disaster. So the skin is just humongous. And just to be able to grapple with the enormity of what happened and the task ahead is something that didnt make you hopeless, but thats the challenge for me to ship, not to. And for the people whove already shown such great deal of, i dont like the word resilient use the word veneers because its somehow means that, you know, no matter what this did, its fine, theyre living so its fine. I dont think it should be like that. And it isnt, it should not be like that, but in some ways it is because i dont think we have built enough structures in the world in the global order, in the, in the global architecture for crime, Climate Change, lead events to be able to grapple diva des crisis is effectively when you think about the global capacity to deal with these issues. As you pointed to some of argue the International Response has been insufficient. Un secretary general Antonio Gutierrez said, there is a lot of attention on the war and ukraine, but people tend to forget that there is another warmed the war we are waging on nature. And nature is striking back. Many of said, look, theres been a powerful response to the war and ukraine. We saw extraordinary responses to the flooding in europe. Has it been adequate, the Global Response to pakistan . Look, were very thankful and grateful and for whatever response weve got. And i think the response has been, i mean i can, i can tell you that countries like thank you for instance, have an ear bridge countries. Victor kia, have assisted a lot, many other countries. Jain, of course, continues to assist, or the United States came in with in large numbers in terms of, you know, on the un shy shippy and sort of the you came in europe in countries. I dont really want to leave any country, but pretty much the whole world has come to help, right . But as i said now, the skill of the graces is 33000000 people, as the number of dense required is in millions. And the number of tents available is in hundreds of thousands at best. So thats the, thats the gap. How do for the gap, the world is not prepared to fill that gap and that is, and therefore a, you know, to me, this is literally our in knock from whether you, you know, believe in the law as we do or my, the nature who, whatever nomenclature use great, this is a weak up coin, and dime has already run out. But if we do not see this as e grid warning off things to come within the same season, literally marked onwards. Pakistan saw forest fires, pakistan saw severe drought conditions. Pakistan saw 3 degrees then to grid. Higher temperatures are that one of the hot to summers theyd be, they were heard in some areas, far water than was ever even noted. There was glacial melting in the same area that we currently have drought, there was heavy. Oak currently have floods. There was heavy dough conditions. So if you see at this scale of all of that, you realize that this is, is serious Climate Change event. In august, the International Monetary fund approved the additional 1100000000. 00 in bailout funds to pakistan. Now, as is often the case with im, if laws there are condition the condition is often austerity, in this case, and fatal stereo. Were one or conditions of the government under prime minister, chabarise sharif has eliminated fuel and power subsidies and diesel pump prices have gone up by almost 60 percent. Oh, people are struggling with double digit inflation yet in august are prime minister, so that pakistan is called economically in sleeved by the iron maam. So then why take the money look and this is how it works, right . You need Macro Economic stability for the country to have a chance in order to have macroeconomic stability. You need a fun program to be able to enable other Funding Sources to come. This is how the financial global architecture works. You know this better than i can explain to you. Now when we have the floods in pakistan and floods of the biblical proportion. Ok. So this is an extraordinary event, not on the pakistan scale. This is an extraordinary event on the global scale. This is in the rent which was and thought to good by irresponsible behavior of pakistan. This was an event which was triggered by responsible behavior of decades or of industrialization, but did not happen to have in my control on the poor. 33000000 people or not expiring on the receiving end of it. Having said that, would you expect these 323000000. 00 people to do, to have 1st down into floods . Now down into conditionality is an extraordinary event. Like this requires extraordinary response. My fear is having seen how the structures work that we will come in crunch of ordinary responses. And my fear is that the people who have drowned in this floods the cranford little less for them. Right. And where is now you could avoid to problem by rebuilding the zalinski in an adaptable, mad with adaptation as it score and give hope. But our concern is that when it comes to the hard phase of the building, resilient years, we want to, when the numbers are to the tune of 30000000000. 00, just a replacement cost, not the rebuilding cost, perhaps here then how far, how, how shot would be fall, and if we fall short, what would be the cost of that . It will not only be to plug a sign, it will be to everyone indeed. So. So theres the question of what we do if we dont receive funds, right . Thats a question that youve addressed, but theres also a question of what happens when you receive funds and you can end up in a very familiar cycle, which is that you receive, i am a funding, you get conditional as assistance in, in you end up trapped in a kind of cycle of, of receiving this stuff, but not necessarily improving, not necessarily developing because of all the commitment youve made in order to receive the conditional funding. I could and im not so fond of the commitments if he me, for other people sick. Im fond of commitments that mistake that we make for up on people say, i think this whole a cycle of trying to appease other peoples commitments rather than commitments to young people is a bad cycle. And this is the real world doing their architecture. Whats right, so there be all these conditionality is attached by different headquarters. Want to now create a project which will, which will appease their conscience more than the realities on the ground in some ways. And by the time it hits the ground in pakistan, its perhaps not really according to the requirements of the people of pakistan. Right. Its a typical sake of we need to come up with a model at, in, in, in the project days, mod, which is not only sellable, but it is something which builds in adaptability resilience, but is also fully in tune in line with the demand and needs of the people and not only catering to the needs of, you know, what we may consider the funding be coming from, right. Would you make of the argument that mega projects such as dams have actually worsened natural disasters . D worry that pakistans card investments and mega projects versus the climate climate resilient local infrastructure approach is putting people at nature. Okay, thats interesting approach, right . Because about 10 years from today, ah, or 12 years from today, because i wanted to start thank god projects with goldman finance fund funding and financing. And we were told or we do not do cool anymore right now. So it was fine for all the developers to have done called but when it focused on wanted to exploit its own natural resources, you know, to be able to provide a let you know, energy. Ah, we were unable to do that with funding from the world bank. I believe that what you have to look at is cumulative responsibility, cumulative emissions. So if im in the matter 20 years back and i have emitted at will, and now im going to not be the price for it, but have developing countries with law, you know, capacity and low resources to pay the entire price of my emission. So i, you know, im confused like you see that, that you guys are the conflict happens and people have started their code plans again. So we are not allowed and they are allowed. So theres an element of unfairness in all of this. Back in 2010 of floods killed early, 2000 people. I think they parked on been here before. 11000000 people were displaced then as well. And yet a mid us o. S. A climate in water expert on pakistan said that in 2022 quote, theres just nothing in pakistan in terms of disaster resilient infrastructure, and that people were literally left to fend for themselves. Now your party was in power for 3 years after the 2010 floods that critique applies to you in your party. No, no, i would like to really be able to ask her the same questions that would be required to be asked that will do called resilience and with and readiness. So for country experiences, if new york city today babysitting manhattan, the heart of the word of the developer right was to were to get for it is each 100 percent more than it typically does. Intern joan . Right. The typical couch materials which received one from fund of rain and flooding in the sun did not receiving the joint. There was still a dope conditions. So were still looking at it from a, from a, from among, from thats where this is a climate. Is there anything that could have been done, or are there any infrastructure perspective, from an infrastructure perspective, much more can be done . Absolutely. Well, what could have been done . So then let me tell you very clearly what could have been done and what will be done as the rebuilding trailer. So did the thing to notice is that the typical areas which receive one soon did not receive the same amount of rain for the de, typically. So this happened in it typical indian and non typical area. Now despite having said that, what we need to do is that wherever we build back, we have generally to make sure that the flow of water can be management better than it good. And we build back infrastructure in the we, for instance, some of the schools withstood rate that you build back in the way that they can survive such severity of water. And, and the fust bro do must be to ensure that the water can be channeled better. But please understand the enormity of the challenger time, 32000000 people. I will, i will share this with you. A lot of people came on the tv screens and then you go to them and said we received nothing and did not like they actually did not receive anything. How can you feed 33000000 people all at the same time when we went to the whole world and the horrible came out, opened their hearts opened this story. Just give us whatever dense they had. You know, how many tents we received less than the 1000000. You know, how many people were dismissed . 32000000. So i think the globe, the global order, is ill prepared to be able to deal with what is coming are we, i am not get it. As i mentioned, parker stomach is facing an economic crisis. And yet it was announced in june that the country would be increasing its Defense Budget by 11 percent, or at the same time, it reduced the allocation for its Public Sector Development Program by 19 percent. Why the government chosen to increase military spinning rather than allocating those funds for the necessary infrastructure to protect people from the high mccracken . Sure, i could not say that thats a rule that you want to go at all. I think the trend had been in focus on the bridge and military spending was actually decreasing now, hero. And so when it comes to real terms, i think the increase would be very, very minimal. Just to keep up with existing infrastructure. And thats why its really important, and therefore i was in the session which was on humanitarian assistance. And they kept on talking about how the my doing the systems needs are increasing. And i said that from one side, we are feeding the bees to creating humanitarian assistance requirements. More because conflict is increasing. Economic starvation is increasing Climate Change to good events or increasing reading nothing to deal with the crisis with the, with the reason with the basis for the crisis, whether its Climate Change or economic starvation for crisis has been triggered by all conflict in our region. Conflict, its right on being triggered in some ways with, with Climate Change been still the biggest threat to National Security at this point. Right . Mean, it said in 2015, the un conducted a drill, simulating an earthquake in the indian ocean. And it was found that the sooner the waves from an earthquake could reach karachi in one and a half hours in the entire city. Again, what good as they have large military, if karachi, the economic background and main city, water, you know, to be honest, things of change in our region, right. I mean, since 971, we really did not have an active conflict. If you dont take a few minor conflicts, take them away. Ah, but on to years back off we had from a neighbor military jets into pakistan, years space proclaimed focus on the air space into our territory and into a territory. And then back and neutral on it was proven that the claims that the made of a, you know, going after terrorists outfits, et cetera. None existed. Only trees existed over there. Right now when Something Like this happens, i cannot make the case with that. You dont need military spending anymore. I need, we need to have jets, which are in the position to be able to fight back. So when you have confrontations like that, you are in need, you are ensuring that our, i wish i a desire to be able to swore will be completely from that type of spending and going to serious, you know, adaptability of, forget it up to be lydia. I mean, adaptability is the major part of what we need to do, but this also, were still struggling with proper education infrastructure, Proper Health infrastructure, proper route and farm to market roads. Proper economic infrastructure rates when the country like this, which has many, many places to spend its reason is forced to re look at, y

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