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ALJAZAM Consider This September 21, 2013

Colorado continue their search for 82 people still unaccounted for. Rescued a week and a half after the rain began. Property loss is estimated at over 2 billion. More than 1800 houses have been destroyed. Rescuers are search for dozens of people, in mexico, death toll expected to rise. Ill see you at 8 easter easter. You can continue to get your news at aljazeera. Com. Howt republicans wage a House Republicans wage a war, the president says he will veto any bill aimed to kill the Affordable Care act law. Consider this, before the Affordable Care act becomes reality what are the real challenges outside congress . Irans new are president , hassan rouhani, a case of meet the new boss same as the old boss . Plus can cocacola really dissolve nails . Well about go inside the make of urban legends. Hello im antonio mora. The date in which the government could shut down if congress and the white house dont reach a deal. Also its the first day of enrollment of the Affordable Care act, better known as obamacare. Courtney keely reports, defunding obamacare. The bill faces certain defeat in the senate has republicans swinging at each other and leaves little compromise for raising the debt ceiling. We have victory for today, for the American People. That was House Speaker joan boehner, shortly after the vote to keep america afloat but defund being obamacare. House leader eric cantor has been fighting to to be the Affordable Care act from the start. This resolution will also protect the working middle class from the devastating effects of obamacare. But the celebratory mood belies the are problem between the tea party and hard line republican party. Moderates and conservatives are slamming tea party favorites. Dont agree on execution. Late friday, president obama called be boehner and reiterated that there would be no negotiation on debt limit. Boehners office responded that while he is disappointed, congress will chart the path ahead. Top are Congress People like harry reed the speaker has to do everything he can to try to mold a piece of legislation that will meet the needs of the tea party. The anarchists. Meanwhile serious concerns remain on obamacare including how many Healthy People will enroll if the software enrollment will be ready and what the impact on businesses and workers will be. President obama has already announced a one year postponement and the requirement for businesses to provide coverage to their employees. But open enrollment gidges in less than two weeks. Courtney keely new york. Joining me are Jonathan Cohn and at our an arbor michigan studio and thank you both for joining us tonight. President obama responded to todays vot in the house accusing consciousal republicans of trying to mess with me and threatening a shut down of the government come october 1st. Unfortunately, right now the debate thats going on in congress is not meeting the test of helping middle class families. Its just, theyre not focused on you. Theyre focused on politics. Theyre focused on trying to mess with me. Theyre not focused on you. House republicans of course jennifer say they are focused on americans because they think powmg wilobamacare will be a tr. Is this just about mollifying the Republican Base . The president said republicans are trying to mess with him but theyre really messing with each other. Well see this next week whether they take a volt on the continuing resolution. It pits the republicans ted cruise against the more hard line republicans who dont want to fight the battle on this issue. Yes were going to see where that line is drawn and how they respond in their vote on the continuing resolution next week. Well see how it works out politically. But i really want to focus on things outside washington because the fight against obamacare is really going on around the country just as obamacare enrollment gets closer. Were seeing tv ads like this one. Swing on over scoot on down and try to make yourself comfortable. Okay lets have a look. This has gone viral, this creepy uncle sam. They also have a male version of it. It is aimed directly as young, healthy americans like that poor young woman. And jonathan they are essential to the second of obamacare. What do you think of this as a strategy and how much of an impact will it have . There is an understanding, that for an insurance are system to work you need Healthy People and sick people, that is nature of insurance. The opponents of obamacare figured out if they could persuade young people not to sign up, then thats going to cause a problem because the markets would disproportionately attract sick people. Ill be honest, i dont think ads like this do enough to discourage people. They are kind of creepy. At the end of the day, what is going to drive enrollment in the system is not going to be what people see on television. Its when they sign up is it good insurance, does it cost a lot or does it cost a little . Do i want insurance . Those are factors that are going to determine that. I think these ads probably are more of a side show. Lets go to hermella aregawi. Thank you antonio. My rates will increase, why is that happening . Werent they supposed to decrease . This is a good question. The first thing i would say to this viewer is, you should actually check the rates and make sure that they are going to increase. You know theres a lot of information out there about whose rates are going up and whose rates are going down. And a lot of it is misinformation. In general what is going to happen is that were trying to set up a system where sick people dont have to pay more. But that means that some Healthy People will have to pay less. But thats only one part of the story. In addition to that theres a system of tax credits or subsidies that basically act like a discount for almost everybody whos making less than four times poverty line which is about 45,000 a year for an individual. So i dont know whether in fact this viewer is going to be paying high rates. He might. Its possible if hes paying very little right now. But i would say two things to keep in mind if you are paying very low rates right now, you have benefited from the same system that penalizes the sick. You basically are not going to get that benefit anymore. But the flip side is youre going to have a guarantee of insurance you never have to worry you cant get it because youre sick. Insurance will probably be more comprehensive and the price of the insurance wont be outrageous. It will basically be comparable to what the cost of the insurance policy from a large employer. And like i said if your income is lower than four times poverty line youre probably going to be eligible for a discount. The discounts could be really big. I mean there are going to be people paying less than 100 a year. There is going to be a lot of variation between one state and the other and some people with the same income are going to be paying much more in one state than another. Going back to those viral ads that everybody is seeing now because not only do they see them on the internet theyre seeing them on tv on news reports. Its likely that at some point more people will have seen those ads that understand that the enrollment options in obamacare what those enrollment options are. A kaiser poll found that 45 of americans didnt know that obamacare was a law. All this confusion jennifer is it going to be a big deal in the next couple of weeks . Absolutely. This law is very complicated, a lot of people dont understand whats in it or how its going to impact them personally. Theres a reason why this creepy ad is getting all this attention. You guys played it on your air. Im sure the people who wrote it are very grateful to that. People are able to get their message out in very water coolery way, even if it creeps people out. It cuts to the core of what the messaging problem is with the white house. They do need young people to support it. We arent playing ads in support of the law, because nobody has created a catchy easy way to encourage people to sign up. Maybe the white house has tricks up their sleeve come october 1st but so far we havent seen anything thats nearly as effective. Jonathan there are problems with the software to varying degrees in different states and there are some glitches. This is kind of spoapped t suppe like going on expedia or orbitz. You might be able to click on various plans and this may not be in effect on october 1st. We have known for a while people work on the Affordable Care act, in some states the federal government is going to be running the market. In some states like california, maryland, the State Government is running it. We have known for a while people have talked about the fact that this is a really complicated system to build. We want to make sure people can choose their insurance, we have to figure out how much Financial Assistance is available. People have been using the phrase, a soft launch, i think jennifer had a story about a week ago on this. I think what youll see on october 1st is most of the websites will be on, you will be able to go see them. They may not be ready for people to enroll but thats not such a big deal, there is six months for people the enroll. You didnt think it would be much of a deal as long as the glitches and the problems didnt last too long. Again, that leads us to at least the first day, the Enrollment Period begins on october 1st. Does it end on march 31st, 2014, but if you want coverage before march 31st you need to get going before the end of the year. What do we need to know jennifer . If you want coverage january 1st you have to sign up probably mid december. There isnt an actual cutoff date but thats about it. Like jonathan sced we know theres going to be glitches on october 1st and maybe for the first few weeks theres going to be problems but the white house theres so much at stake for them theyre going to make sure this is up and running effectively within a couple of weeks after october 1st. So then consumers can start their coverage on january 1 or they can wait until the end of march. Thats the cutoff date for open enrollment. But if most americans dont have coverage in 2014 they will face a fine on their taxes next year. Thats that individual mandate, the requirement that everybody gets in the pool. Jonathan, what about these bigger issues with obamacare, that may and how serious will they be . Weve got the unions last week coming out and upset about the multiemployer plans and lack of subsidies and really had some pretty hamp words harsh words about obamacare but then they said weve got to talk about this behind closed doors. But then weve got the Cleveland Clinic announcing millions of dollars of cutbacks, home depose, walgreens, other companies, trader joes all these Companies Making major changes many of whom are saying theyre not going ohave the employees work the 30 hours in order to be given Health Insurance. There is this sort of growing are problems i guess around the country, arent there . Good so there are certainly a lot of stories about these problems. And i riemed people to keep a few things in remind people to keep a few things in mind. A lot of these are exaggerated. You hear it across the board and it actually affects about 20 or 30 workers. You heard where it might have been ibm moving their employees or retirees to a retirement exchange, had to do with obamacare, but it turned out to be something they were doing privately. A lot of the stories dont have to do with the Health Care Law or they are exaggerated. This is a complicated law, if you are trying to fix the most complicated Health Care System in the world some might argue i. T. The best Health Care System in the world. But some people would actually dispute that, put that aside, the architecture is so complicated. If you are going to try ofix it, if you are going to try fix the problems i think everybody agrees there is going to be disruption, and you are getting 20 to 30 million peoples who are going to have Health Insurance. You have people who dont have Health Insurance new consumer protections, you are going to start to change the Health Care System so it becomes more efficient and less costly. We are starting to see signs that that is maybe in effect already. Make sure the story is real and think about the tradeoffs. If it is a bad news story whats the good news youre getting from it and which is more important . Lets hope if the good news is more than if bad. Well stay with this story and have elements of obamacare alt the way to october 1st. Jonathan and jennifer thank you for coming and hope to have you back. What do you think . Join the conversation on twitter at ajconsiderthis and our facebook and google plus pages. O. All of a sudden were in the middle of a Charm Offensive from iran. It started earlier this week from a new years tweet from iran president hassan rowe ha r. A Washington Post editorial written by rouhani, where rouhani tried to ease fears of Irans Nuclear program. We have time and again said that under no circumstances would we seek any weapons of mass destruction, including Nuclear Weapons nor will we ever. Despite that comment and many past denials the u. S. And many allies especially the gulf states an israel suspect the Iranian Program is all about Building Nuclear materials. Mr. Obama behinded that a new round of diplomacy is possible. There are indications that rouhani, the new president , is somebody who is looking to open being dialogue with the west and with the United States in a way that we havent seen in the past. And so we should test it. Irans Charm Offensive may have been triggered by a letter from president obama to rouhani reportedly delivered three weeks ago that is said to have offered relief from economic sanctions in return for relief and cooperation on Irans Nuclear program. Guy ziv, founder of the Israel National security project. Thank you both for being with us tonight. David, want to start with you. President rouhani, a cleric, a follower of the ayatolla houmeni, part of the implement, is this latest approach part of the same . No one really knows at this point. Theres a huge difference between the way american officials are seeing the signals from iran and israeli officials are saying this. There are statements from israelis today saying dont believe this. Some estimates that iran is within six months of creating a nuclear wea weapon and u. S. Sayg no. Guy, the government in israel is not are charmed by the offensive. The iranian president used a lot of sugar coated words but did so dliptly in order to deceive. We dont need words from the iranians but we need action he. Is this what iran is doing hoping to string United States along to get more time to develop the program . I suspect a Charm Offensive that you said earlier. We do have an obligation to negotiate with them and find out whether the iranians are serious. On the other hand david, the question here is have the sanctions now they have been in place over three decades, have they finally gotten to the point has the straw broken the camels back that the u. S. Really has leverage to do serious negotiating . It could be. Rouhani won the election, the iranian economy is in shambles and the force he are sort of in retreat. If rouhani is what he says, i agree that starting talks makes sense. I think you leave the sanction he in place but you bring him the possibility to succeed. He has made his conciliatory statements and if nothing comes of it kim i can guarantee that the force he are going to start to are attack rouhani. There is not that much political faction supporting outreach to the United States. Thats whats been set, this is a nationalist issue, years of tension between the countries. In a sense hes taking a very large Political Risk by making this effort. So i definitely think its worth talking but theres got to be a serious agreement and the sanction he have to be used as leverage. Guy, in the past some iranian president s have sort of gone out on a limb and then the Supreme Leader ends up pulling the rug from under them. Ayatollah houmeni told revolutionary guard, i agree in this move and this in some circumstances is positive and necessary. Do you think that is also a different signal coming from the man who actually really makes the decisions beyond the president . I mean, my best guess is more a difference in style rather than substance. We are going to know relative soon, assuming negotiations do take place, because iran will have an opportunity to demonstrate, and that means adhering to the demands of the u. N. Security council. Iran has always insisted that its Nuclear Program was entirely peaceful but i certainly bit it up covertly. Built it up covertly. They are disguised enriched uranium. We have never pursued or sought a nuclear bomb and we are not going to do so. We are solely seeking Peaceful Nuclear technology. If that was the case guy why would they have not accommodated the west and their concerns about Nuclear Problem a long time ago . Whats the feeling inside israel . Well, i agree with that and certainly the Israeli Government agrees with that as well. The fact is that iran has for a very long time for many years engaged in a policy of concealment, of deception, and rouhani the president was part of that. He was a very

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