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ALJAZAM Consider This November 19, 2013

And picking up the pieces after a deadly storm. How unusual is it for storms of this magnitude to strike in november. Oprah knows a reason president obamas policies are struggling racism. Has the first black president been unfairly targeted or is Harsh Criticism a relating all president s face. And a launch to mars. Im antonio mora, welcome to consider this, we begin with communities recovering from killer storms overseas, in the philippines and the midwest. Where People Struggle to restart their lives after the farm belt was battered. The skies cleared, tornados killed six people in illinois, two in michigan, injured hundreds in 12 states, leaving tens of thousands homeless or without power. Here is what it looked like as the twisters descended on the mid west. Our father who art in heaven. All we could hear was glass shattering. When we came out it was gone. Warning. The game will be suspended. Im hearing things, we may need to take shelter overseas. We do. There. Those are our two vehicles sitting in the field over there, one of which was inside a garage. Im a little sore, beat up, in shock of all that is happening. I really dont know where to go from here. I found pieces of my house 100 yards northeast of me. Our mission now is to recover. Tornados. We need all the help we can get in this town. Well look for bits and pieces today. Heartbreaking stories, for more, im joined from new york by kevin corriveau, and with me from chicago is storm chaser adam lucio, who took powerful video of a tornado. Kevin, you always think of the spring as the time for the big tornado systems, how unusual is it to have a storm system of this mag ni stood trike the problem magnitude strike the midwest. Its not unusual, but it is unusual how far west it was. We had the right ingredients at the right time for this to happen some of the worst damage and where a death occurred was in illinois, washington. Three were killed in illinois. Are some areas more vulnerable to the killer storms. We are familiar that alley in the spring, across the central planes, but it happens across the United States. For november in this area it was unusual. Illinois, on the average from 1950 to 2010 wed see one tornado. It was just that we saw so many because of the situation that caused the outbreak. You are a chicago native, adam. When did you find the storms were coming and why did you chase them. We had an idea that the weather pattern would be one that would produce tornados. We look at the forecast ahead of time. You look at parameters coming together suggesting that the potential for tornados would be there. We had an idea ahead of time. We decided it would be a significant outbreak. We were geared up, ready to chase and be out there. There were reports as many as 76 tornados hit sunday. Is that possible . Absolutely. It is possible. We are looking at the survey team going out there looking at the areas, analysing what we saw many. This number could fluctuate up and down. Well see other novembers, where outbreak. Adam, well play video that you shot. Where were you focused and what did you see . We were north of illinois, northeast of washington. Same tornado, but we watched it from the north as it crossed to the south. We could tell it was strong, violent. It displayed upward motion that gave us a clue that it wasnt a weak tornado, but it was a stronger one. We could see the debris inside the tornado that told us it was time. I know you guys know what you are doing. When you see storms of this magnitude you must get nervous. Danger . I little bit in the beginning. When we had a visual it popped out of the rain. We didnt see it develop. It was ongoing for 10 minutes. When you see the tornado and you know they are moving fast and they are string. Theres a bit of nervousness in the beginning before you are able to gauge the path and figure out where its going. Then and there we were a little nervous, we were focused and calm and made sure it wouldnt hit us. According to the Chicago Weather Center illinois had 194 tornado warnings. More than half 101 went out just on sunday. Storm. It was absolutely an unusual storm, but gives way to the fact that the National Weather service have done on excellent job over the last couple of years of improving the forecast models and accuracy and manner. A lot of people were probably saved by the warnings. Was this the worst damage you had seen, adam, in your homestead. I know youve been all around the country. Its the strongest tornado, the worst i have seen in my ham state of illinois. We have seen lesser ones that did damage. Nothing like this. Some may call this monday morning quarterbacking, but players at the bearsravens game were told to take shelter with 5 minutes left in the first. They were allowed back after two hours. This was something else. Were you surprised they were allowed to return . It was a good call. You never know as a storm approaches what it will do next. No, them going back to the game was the right call to make. With the technology they knew the storm passed and everything was safe to go. When does the tornado end in the northwest. When do you get a break. Youd think wed have a break. They are year around. Winter is the slowest time. Hopefully well get a break and spring. Inevitably in the spring. Kevin corriveau, and adam lucio. We appreciate you both joining us and talking about this. Thanks for having me. Now to the philippines and the aftermath of typhoon haiyan, where aid flights reached remote areas 10 days after the storm came ashore. Pilots on board a u. S. Helicopters brought this village on leyte some of the first food in days. One pilot said the further out you go the harder it is. According to the Philippine Government numbers 13 million have been affected by the typhoon. 4,000 killed, 1600 missing and 4 million displaced. 350,000 of them have made it to shelters. Meanwhile thousands of refugees crowd on board us transports to leave the city of tacloban on cebu island where a 20 foot storm surge left widespread devastation. For more im joined from manila by rafael lopa, the director of the united way in the philippines. Thank you for talking to us about this. I know you lived in the philippines your whole life and youve never seep anything like this. You have been to cebu island. See . I was i was there last friday, just to coordinate initial relief efforts that were going through the organization. Clearly theres so much work to be done logistically. Its a change. We need to thank all the aid coming in from over the world, to allow us to get the goods out there. What do people on the ground now, in the areas battered by the storms need. Is it food, water, medicine . Yes, thats still what is needed now. More and more people are getting out of the island. We are trying to put the basic needs into different refugee seniors set up all over the place in cebu and manila. As we speak, we are looking into looking to more recovery and building efforts. Thats being done as we speak. We are already looking for work for food programs together with the government so we can get livelihood back there. We are making an assessment of School Buildings that have been destroyed in that place, and definitely Health Facilities that need to be reconstructed given that people left there will need all the health services. We are closely working with the department of health and education, as well as the other branches of government to get it up and running. Your group, the united way and the philippines represent private Sector Charities and endeavours. Its involved in reconstruction. How long will it take before the cleanup is finished and you can get reconstruction under way . I think the cleanup is ongoing. We hope to the government hopes to clean it up by december. Again, as we speak, well not wait for that until we start things moving. This way, together with the unit way, we are trying to raise funds to bring back the School Buildings, the health centres, as well as work with microfinances, institutions, as well as private sector initiatives to allow for jobs to come back into that place again. I guess its not just later. We are looking at some other hit. Its not just homes, its schools, hospitals, places of business where people earn their living. The u. S. Is donating 37 million, and sent out an aircraft carrier, the world bank and others have approved 500 million loans. Is the country getting what it needs or is it too soon to tem. I think the government is doing post assessments. They are encouraging. Theyll meet with the Asian Development banks and other agencies reaching out to our organization to see how the private sector can take an active role in cooperation with the government, in getting the shape. Rafael lopa, appreciate you joining us. Coming up details on the 2008 mumbai terror attacks. First, oprah stays some of Barack Obamas critics oppose his politics because of race. Is she saying what many are thinking or has she forgotten history your, or social media producer harmeli aregawi is tracking our trending stories. Salmon on the loose. What do you think . Power of the people until we restore our free Oprah Winfrey famously said she was so moved by president obamas 2008 democratic speech she cried her eyelashes off. Shes been a passionate supporter of the president since. When asked a provocative question about race and the twiceelected first black u. S. Punches. Has is crossed your mind some of the treatment that obama and the changes hes faced and the reporting hes received is because hes an African American. If he wasnt, if he was a white guy it wouldnt have happened. He wouldnt be treated in the same way. Has it crossed my mind theres a level of disrespect for the office that occurs. That occurs in some cases, in american. Joining me to talk about oprah adds comments are tricia rose, director of the center for study of race and ethnicity in america at Brown University in rowed island. She joins us from there. And ward connerly, president of the American Civil Rights institute from sacramento california. Trish, your response to open roes comments. Do you think oprahs comments, do you think president obama has faced criticism because hes black . I think its a crazy expectation that the first black pd, given the rest of the ways that race plays a role in American Society, that he would be immune to racially specific targetting. Many president s in recent years have been disrespectful. There has been uncivil conversation. Its more than reasonable to really look at the way obama has been treated and understand tlns been racially intentional insultive components to the way he was treated when running and during both presidencies. There certainly are people, as trisha said, who made racist comments about the president. Has that made the attacks on him disproportionate to those or others in the past . I dont think so. I think president bush was the subject of many disrespectful attacks. Many called him dumb. So i think that obama is getting his full measure of disrespect. The level of disrespect in our society has increased over the years. And we should not confuse being disrespectful and bad manners necessarily with being racist. Towards point lack of respect doesnt seem unique to this president. Lets look at a clip of Whoopi Goldberg performing at a function and shes talking about george w. Bush. I thought to be president of the United States you had to be smart. I thought you had to know stuff like geography, in case you ran across someone who lived in ner lace, you had to at least know where it was. You can be dumb as dirt, and still be president. Whoopi goldberg was fired as a spokesperson for slim fast after that. Is that not disrespecting the president. Well, we have to do passing that we are not doing. Number one. We dont want to confuse general disrespect with racism and we dont want to pretend racism is not going on. It shows up as disrespect. Whoopi goldberg is a comedian. They say vulgar aggressive outlandish things. Thats part of the job. Thats a very different assignment that people in government, media, people with political platforms outline kinds of ways that people were using during both campaigns, what a lot of analysts call dog whistling. Anxiety by targetting president obama in ways associating with blackness. Relying on racial ideas to taint him and disparage him as a president. Its not desputable. We shouldnt say all disrespect is racism. We can say hes faced undue levels of racist targetting for reasons having to do with being an African American. They are not disputable. I agree. There have been specific racist comments about the president throughout his time in office. The question is whether that is the majority of what he is getting and that is why hes getting opposition on things like obamacare as some claim. I think we also need to examine the source of the criticism and whether it represents the majority of the American People or close to majority of American People. He wouldnt be president if there was a profound level of disrespect. I disagree somewhat with trisha. I think that she has a good point. I dont subscribe to the view that president obama is being subjected to a large measure of disrespect because of his skin colour. Lets look at what oprah said, singling out joe wilsons outburst during a president ial speech on health care, lets look at that. The reforms im proposing will not apply to those here illegal lie. The congressman says, you lie. Not a racial attack. Was that as many commentators said, a low in the way a president and respected . I think it was a new low. But i think it was born of bad manners. It was not born of racism. Lets also look at the sons that that bad mannered comment received from members of congress when without prompting in unison said, boo, you know. We have to be careful not to not to identify something as racism when it probably is not. On the other hand, is joe wilson any worse than harry reid what, he said on National Television eight years ago, lets listen to that. I have called the president a liar a couple of times, because he lied to me. The loser thing i apologised to him for. So, again, president bush was compared to hit ler. He was called dumb. President regan was burned an effigy. There were complaints about Sam Donaldson screaming at regan, not being polite. We can only go on and on about how many sometimes president clinton was disrespected. Again, is there that much of a difference between president obama and other president s. Part of it really depends on what you think racism is, and whether you think it structured American Society in a meaningful way. If you study racial equality and look at the gap in treatment, services, loans, incarceration and educational opportunity. Even among liberal people, you have a massive database of evidence, significant racial not only disparity, but attitudes. Does that mean i think people are harbouring hatred as if its 1935 or 1835 . No. We have substantial evidence of this racism that it would be insame to mag the president was immune to it. Thats the issue. I dont think anyone disagrees. Oprah said. People do disagree with me. Thats the point. People think that. Question. More specifically oprah was referring to the disrespect that the president gets to being racially based. Is it fair. Is that the only way to prove it . The only way to prove that is point to the climate of racial evaluation as a whole. If barack obama were one av cap american we are African American we are assuming is being mistreated on race that would be a ground. But you have to look at the context of the group to which he or she belongs. We have massive evidence showing that barack obama would have to read as not black in order not to experience various Racial Discrimination and mistreatment in attitude. It doesnt mean every discriminatory or insulting comment has been racist in motivation. They are two things. Why would we think one has to lead to the other if they are is. We had a massive response when we mentioned we were going to discuss this. Lets go to harmeli aregawi, and see what the viewser says. Trisha, we asked if viewers agreed with oprahs comment, if the president is disrespected because of his race. 48 agree. 52 disagree. It was split down the middle. What do you make of that . Thats a great question. It was split like the election for obama was split in many ways, i wouldnt be surprised. If he had a slight majority, a little different, but its a similar type of voting divide in this country, we have very different attitudes about race. You do find that whites are the predom nant group or the major group that thinks race doesnt have a merit to be discussed, that its an element in the past and we are having leftover reverberations. Theres literally little evidence for that. Theres more evidence that we are enfrenched in other ways. Im not surprised that the split is there. Lets listen to louisiana senator what argued obamacare black. Its not about how many dollars we receive. Its not about that. You ready. Its about race. No, nobody wants to talk about that. Its about the race of this African American president. Ward, your response to that . Well, i think if we look for it we can find race in every corner. Does that mean the American People are racist, that president obama is subject to constant barrage of racism . I dont think so. I think the country is going through a transition as we as our population ages and younger people come along. The country is going through the transition, but president obama would not have been elected if race seeped out of every pour of american culture. Oprah has hope that racism will die. Comment. There are still generations of people, older people, born and bred and marinated in the prejudice and racism and they just have to die. Again, people upset about the harshness of that comment, but also the other question is with skinheads and neonaas yeas and younger people who are racist, is she right . Theres so many things on the table. I think what shes speaking about is seemingly every day regular people who otherwise are civilized except when confronted with a racial a person of racial difference. She

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