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ALJAZAM Consider This January 11, 2014

Scrambling to control the damage there. Craiftie apologizes for the lain closure, which were political pay back and fired a top aide yesterday. India has asked an American Embassy authority to leave. Arrested in new york city last month. She returned to new delhi this morning despite facing charges in United States including visa fraud. Ill see you here at 11, 8 pacific, consider this with antonio mora is next. Remember can you get the latest on aljazeera. Com. Chris christies hope to escape scandal hit another roadblock. About 2,000 pages of documents that could bury his former aids. Weighing in on everything from christie to north korea. How thousands of members of one rap group as a gang . Hello im antonio mora and welcome to consider this. We begin with an avalanche of new documents that appears an elaborate political coverup of individuals loyal to Chris Christie. Christie flew to florida over a political trip but the scandal over the bridge is clearly not going away. New jersey lay makers released emails from christies aids seemingly trying to hide the lane closure with a supposed traffic study. Joining me is jordan johnson, his constituents of fort lee, new jersey, hit hard in the George Washington bridge scandal. Good to have you with us. Whats your take away . It adds to my feeling that the firing or the termination of ms. Kelly does not get to the crux of the matter. And realizing when you fire somebody you still dont get to the truth. I think theres a lot going on there. In emails shows us theres some conflict maybe a contempt between new jersey and new york at an administrative level that exists. I know that on the new jersey side it appears to be a atmosphere of intimidation and fear. Lead by intimidation, by these political employees put there by Chris Christie. Lets talk about that new jersey and new york conflict. There are a lot of angry exchanges come out in this email. Bill baroni, who is the top person to the Port Authority in charge of the George Washington bridge, between him and patrick foy. Foy says to bar oni after being upsaid baroni, he says bill were going to fix had fiasco. Baroni says im on the way to the office to discuss. There can be no Public Discourse. If everything is above board, why would baroni not want to have any Public Discourse . Exactly. Right now we know there was no traffic study, it was done for political pay back for some reason. And the new york side was made aware of it apparently. So these are individuals put there by our governor, who wanted to exact some revenge for somebody on the new jersey side. What do you think of christie himself . There is history of him being pretty tough on people he disagrees with. This is normally a guy who has common sense, a smart guy, do you think he would have been involved in something as stupid as this . I dont know and we dont know if he was directly involved in this but i sincerely doubt that ms. Kelly, the one who was dismissed . Was the was the only one who initiated this action from his inner circle. I dont believe that she would run a rogue operation from this inner circle. We all know mr. Christie runs a very controlled operation, there wouldnt be someone in his administration who didnt know something about it. One involved david wield wild stein who took the fifth when questioned about this. He wrote an email to christies staffer, the new york side gave fort lee back all three lanes this morning, samson helping us retaliate. Samson is the chairman of the Port Authority. Now this is saying that even the chairman of the Port Authority might have been involved in all of this. Not only was mr. Samson the chairman but he was nominated by Chris Christie forthat position. There is for that position. There is a very close tie there. When i attended these monthly board meetings, commissioner board meetings in october, november, december when all these commissioners were there including the six from new jersey trying to seek answers for this traffic chaos that was going on, you going to try convince me that none of these individuals, the six individuals from new jersey because we have 12 commissioners, six from jersey, six from new york, of the six new jersey commissione commissionerrers picked by Chris Christie, we have elected officials acquiring about whats going on . Inquiring what was going on . This doesnt make sense to me. This is now a collaboration lawsuit. Lets listen theres now aclass action lawsuit. Lets listen to some of the people. It was frightening and caused craziness. I started to get very, very anxious, it escalated to a point where i had an actual accident. If he was really unaware of this i think that strains credulity myself. I think people should be held accountable for their actions. I feel outraged. I feel insulted. I feel taken advantage of, inconveniented. Outraged insulted. Try to give me your assessment. How outraged should people be . They should be very outraged. Just trying to get to work in a day. This four hour traffic jam, people couldnt get to their shops and stores to buy services or products. Its just i just cant believe or dont understand why swuns of the governors office, we dont know it was the governor but someone in his very small circle of confidentes would do Something Like this. The small smoking gun, where do you see this going in the next week . We plan, i say we. We in the Transportation Committee which i will be sitting in on, plan to subpoena ms. Kelly, and of course our first step is to get the resolution in, that will allow the Transportation Committee to subpoena, give them subpoena powers for their next section because our session ends tuesday, new session starts wednesday, a new session for the speaker is to have a vote which would allow the Transportation Committee to continue their investigation through the subpoena power that will be given othem. And youll see where that investigation takes you. And well see where that takes us. It will be a long year but well get to the bottom of this. New jersey assemblyman Gordon Johnson we thank you for coming. Ill be glad to come back to give you the follow up. Thank you. Thank you. For more, bill richardson, former u. S. Ambassador to the united nations, and the author of the new book how to sweet talk a shark, strategies and stories from a master negotiator. Joins us from washington, d. C. Great to have you with us governor. As someone who was the chief executive of a state is it possible that Chris Christie did not know what his staff was doing . Well, it is possible and he was very candid, and let it all out yesterday in his press conference. Hes going to have to be right, i think he cant afford to, in the future, to show that he had any connection. Because he was pretty forthright. But i will say, it does damage his ability to project bipartisanship, that hes a tough guy who gets results. Because this was a bad incident. But i give him the benefit of the doubt, having been a former governor, that possibly he didnt know. You know one of the things that people have brought up is that even if he didnt know, is it a question of the culture that he created . I know that you had ieshts with some of your issues with some of your own staffers in new mexico. But do you think it is possible and that he has responsibility if his staffers thought that this is something that Chris Christie would have thought this was okay . Well, the governor sets the tone. But i think what, rather than it governor christie on this. The attitude of these staffers, vindictive petty retribution, he didnt get endorsed so lets go after that mayor. Perhaps indicative if he wants to jump into the president ial waters he needs a broader view, more critical staff that is able to say, to him, governor were wrong in doing this or that isnt so petty. So i think its more a question of if he wants to move into the big leagues hes goth to get a stronger staff. Independence of what this might mean about hit president ial ambitions, how strong would a scandal like this make it to govern . Its early in his second term. He tried put everything away in one press conference by i must say being candid, admitting the mistake. It just remains to be seen what will happen in the days ahead. If there are other emails, if it does linch him more link him more directly. But possibly he has at least stopped the bleeding at this point. But hes going to get more scrutiny. When you run for president , everything you do is scrutinied. So scrutinized. So he has invited more scrutiny. He has to rise above this bee debacle. It wasnt a plus. And get some new tone. You have been involved with the North Koreans, you have traveled, there were a number of times sings the 1990s. What was your reaction to what happened to Dennis Rodman. I had initially thought that Dennis Rodman, basketball diplomacy, ping pong diplomacy with china that helps sometimes, its not just the traditional diplomats. But after this last debacle of Dennis Rodman of basically hinting that kenneth bae the american detainee was possibly guilty single happy birthday to kim jonguns birthday, being a mouth peace the propaganda of dennis has totally in my view undermined his ability to use basketball diplomacy to better. I hope he has left town, left north korea but i was disappointed. Bought i am because i am an advocate of out of the box diplomacy. He is the only one to get in to see kim jongun. I tried and failed. But he should have pushed to get kenneth bae the american detainedetainee out. He didnt try that. Do you feel there is any room for optimism that cebbette bae will be released . Im concerned that the North Koreans want to use him as a bargaining chip. Its been over a year. 14 months. This man is not guilty. Hes sick. Hes got a family. That because we know so little about kim jongun and his negotiating tactics in the past i could deal with the old regime because i knew more or less where they were coming from. And we were able to get some releases out. But with this young man he seems to be totally preoccupied with his own power base. He brutally executed his uncle. Hes replacing generals that he feels are not loyal to him. So hes internally being challenged. The worry is that there might be an implosion there because the young man is not secure. We know so little about him because this is whats dangerous. North korea has nuclear weapons. We have missiles in the dmc, we have a treaty with south korea. Any little incident can get us involved, the United States in a way that can be a real spark a bad spark around the region. A lot to be concerned about with a loose cannon. In your book how to sweet talk a shark, you talk about dictators, you were sometimes referred to as the undersecretary of thugs because you dealt with these unsavory characters. You tried get a deal with the castros a couple of years ago to get the release of alan gross. Any progress there . No, no progress there. In fact i failed antonio. I got all upset because the cubans, i thought we had a deal. The cubans said no, we want the cuban 74, you dont go one for four, you go one for one. It was a new element in negotiations. Instead of playing it cool and resuming my negotiations, cooling off, i wept to the press, and i i went to the press and i denounced the cubans they call alan gross a political prisoner. I lost my cool. So im not involved in those negotiations anymore. I hope somebody is pushing hard. I know the administration is doing that. But there is another case where this man should come home. He did nothing wrong. Hes been there several years. Hes not well. There has to be an advocacy for these individuals and sometimes the alan gross case is a big barometer as to whether american and cuban relations can ever improve. You are one of the highest profile la te latinos, despite e fact that it is an Election Year are you as hopeful . Im hopeful, because i believe if youre any republican, and want to keep control of the house and senate, maybe prepare your president ial candidate to do better than mitt romney did, you need the latino vote, and the latino vote is looking at how members of congress are viewing immigration. Whether the antiimmigration reform or pro, and our community is getting bigger, its stronger more populace. And so if the republicans want to just forgot foresigh forget e latino vote, there are a lot of moderate republicans that are moving in the right direction. Unfortunately most are in the senate but in the house even if you get a piecemeal approach and you roll something out in the course of the year five different elements, the ability for instance the legalization provisions, the border provisions, the provisions that allow individuals with highlevel skills to stay in the United States, maybe you do that in the little slower basis in the senate. Boehner, i know him, i served in the house with him. Hes a realistic guy but hes got a caucus of Tea Party Republicans who make it hard for him to maneuver and do whats best for not only the country but his own party. Hillary clinton is expected to be the candidate for your party in 2016. Yesterday you said that john kerry could be the candidate. Is there a chance you could be a candidates yourself . You have one shot antonio, you dont keep going and going. I mentioned john kerry. This was my opinion because i think hes been a good secretary of state. He ran before, ran well. But i dont even know if he wants to do this. He may be very mad at me for having said this because hes doing all this secretary of state stuff. And having said that youve had your issues with the clintons. You supported barack obama in 2008 once you pulled out of the race. How is your relationship with hillary and bill . Not too good. Not too good. Better with hillary than bill. But you know thats politics and im not i dont regret anything did i. I think i did the right i made the right choice. But Hillary Clinton is going to be a formidable candidate. I do believe shell run. And then you have somebody like christie who i think is a possible candidate. This incident will determine how whether he makes it all the way. I still think hes hes viable. Because of his record and his massive reelection victory in new jersey. So if im a democrat, you dont count this guy out. Well, youve been advocating for the end, of horse slaughter in the United States. And i know that today the Humane Society named you its horseman of the year. I want to congratulate you for that. I want to thank you very much for joining us. Your book is how to sweet talk a shark. Former new mexico governor bill richardson. Thank you. Thank you antonio, all the best to you. All the changes president obama will make in the nsa scandal. The insane clown pos espans. Why is the fbi so intent on tracking it. And janet tavoni is tracking, whats trending jana . Antonio its a facinating story. Ill tell you, over 180 to over 7,000, some think its a move to keep reporters out of the country. More coming up. And what do you think . Join the conversation on twitter ajconsiderthis. And our twitter and google plus pages. The inquiry had recommended better rail maintenance and supervis will the president rein in the National Security agency, the president will share his plan to change the nations intelligence gathering next friday. The president s been clear, throughout this review process, that we will not harm our National Security or our ability to face global threats. The goal the president i think has set here is to take measures that create more transparency, introduce reforms that improve the system in a way that gives the American People more confidence. So just what will the president s plan look like . We are joined from chicago by jeffrey stone, professor of law at the university of chicago and one of the five mens chts president s nsa panel that gave the president friction recommendations on how to change the Intelligence Agency in a way that would protect the privacy and the Civil Liberties of the American People. Jeff great to have you on the show. How far do you expect president obama to go . As we said 46 recommendations, how many do you expect will be implemented . Well i hope he imlelts the vast majority of implements the vast majorities of them. I dont have any inside information on that. My guess is he will adopt the vast majority. Im pretty confident of that. Which ones do you think are most important . As far as the american public, the section 216 metadata, the one in which nsa collects phone records of american citizens and then it utilizes that information when it has reasonable grounds to believe that a particular phone number belongs to a terrorist, then queries that database to see whom that terrorist may be speaking with. It is obviously gathering up a huge amount of information and our regulations obviously call for a number of changes in the program that are designed to enable to continue to serve the purpose that it does in terms of protecting the nation. But at the same time, to be more respectful of interests to privacy and transparency and to make sure theres a greater degree of judicial oversight of the use of the metadata. By keeping the metadata at the Telecom Companies . Not to allow the nsa itself to hold the databases. Fbi director james comey, Customer Communications and the argumentative in general from supporters of the Intelligence Community has been after 9 11, you shouldnt be handcuffing any of the Intelligence Communitys efforts to ke

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