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Saying it will investigate this weekends shootings in kansas as a possible hate crime. It takes no cashing ter to do what was done, no backbone, morals, ethics. Gun. We are looking at a variety of ways to demonstrate support for ukraine. We do not see a military solution to the crisis. The credibility of the Russian Federation has been gravely undermined. The Washington Post and the guardian won the Pulitzer Prize with the groupedbreaking groundbreaking coverage of the spying matters. We begin with what has been labelled a hate crime. Police in kansas arrested White Supremicist Fraser Glen Cross on sunday. He used the last name miller, and has been expected to be charged with premeditated first degree murder and hate crimes for the deaths of three people outside two Community Center buildings. Terry was shot and killed outside a retirement home where her mum was a res department. William and his grandson, 14, were in the parking lot where the grandson was going to try out for a singing competition. The mother and daughter described what she saw after the shooting, at a memorial sunday. I saw my dads truck was there and the car doors were open. I wondered why dad was not standing there. As i pulled up i saw he was laying on the ground. My first thought was he had a heart attack. Just lying there. Quickly i realised that it wasnt that, and i knew my dad was in heaven, within seconds. And i ran around the struck and there were two men with him, and they were holding him. Him. I saw that he seemed a little lifeless. I did not get a significant look at him before someone named mickey, who im blessed, grabbed my and tightly and pulled me from the scene. Im joined by criminalologist director of the center for hate and extremism at cal state university. I watched most of that mothers speech, and it was absolutely heart breaking. We have seen too often the defacingthejewish institutions with nazi symbols, when was the last time we had a matter like this . We have had several. Every jewish person on goodwill on this pass over evening has our sisters and brothers in our prayers. In 1994 there was a Fatal Shooting on the brooklyn bridge. We had a shooting in 1999 at a Jewish Center by a neonaasry in the los angeles area. He killed a postal work are. We had a shooting at l. A. X. By loen extremist. Most recently a fatal event as you know at the holocaust museum, along to neonazi killed a Security Guard there. There are plots that came up, these were the fatal ones over the last 20 years. We have seen repetition rare. This is certainly the one that has produced the most bloodshed. This guy has a long record as a militant and a dangerous White Supremicist. According to the law center, starting in the 1980s, he was the founder and grand founder of the caroliner knights, founded the white patriot party, convicted to create the southland. He game a fugitive, served three years in federal prison, ran for congress in 2006 and the senate in 2010 from his Rural Missouri home. He had seven votes. He was an important figure in the movement. He was, and arguably his his allegiance to the movement could go back to the childhood. He was in the nazi group and was kicked out of the army where he did two stints due to hate activities. Hes been involved in the hate movement for some kind, and in a battle with communists in greens bro north carolina, that ended up leaving five dead. All were acquitted in a subsequent trial. Where he got into trouble was in 1987 once he began a declaration of war. He went underground and was captured. He was facing life in prison, and became a state witness. That tarnished him. It tainted him for the rest of the his life throughout the hate movement. In recent years he posted thousands of times on the internet. But we have not seen this violence from him until now. According to a federal affidavit, before he was arrested and gaoled in the 80s, he wanted to carry out a war against federal judges and Law Enforcement systems and worked out a point system for those he wanted killed most. Jews were up there. After the Oklahoma City bombing there was a lot of attention played to militias and white supremacists. After 9 11 is the fbi focussed extremists. I think they are now. There was a period of time where salafist jihadists were the focus. Now the fib and other law fbi and other Law Enforcement focussed on it. National conference where i made a preparation of the risk of this kind of action, particularly from lone wolves. They are the hardest to deter. And we see them across the spectrum, from animal liberation, to religious extremists to antigovernment extremists, and this was a guy that wrote about how he wanted to start a christian army, have a declaration of war, and did it. I think he did it more as a swan song. He laughed and whimmered to make himself relevant and rehabilitate in a most that once embraced but then abandoned him. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center that tracks the groups. There are over 900 american hate groups, including neonazis, white nationalists, neoconfreed separatists. How dangerous are the groups . Well, they are dangerous, but we have to remember, you know, during the 1920s, one in Seven Members of the electorate were members of the Klu Klux Klan and africanamericans were burnt alive in the streets of st. Louis. There were four to 6,000 clan groups. Here is where i think the problem is the ability of small number of people, autonomous cells, duos to commit mass murder is greater than its been, even though the groups are have increased in number. Their stature and overall membership on the american landscape is a shadow of what it has been. If you are a jew in the United States, you are more likely to be killed in a Motor Vehicle accident than by an extremist. A lone wolf can kill many at once. And we have seen it. How do you monitor the people, how do you keep track of them and stop them. Thank you for joining us and giving us your thoughts. Switching topics to the crisis in ukraine. Prorussian separatists attacked and occupied a Police Station in an eastern city, one of as many as 10 buildings where separatists seized buildings and hoisted the russian flag. President obama and Vladimir Putin discussed the increasing violence in a phone conversation requested by moscow late in the day monday. According to Vladimir Putins Office President obama expressed concern about russias supposed meddling in southeastern ukraine, though such speculations are based on inaccurate information. Earlier White House Press secretary jay carney condemned russian attempts to destabilize ukraine, buts said the u. S. Was not planning to send tleethal aid to the country. The main focus is on supporting economic efforts, to deescalate the sways. Im joined by ambassador william taylor, serving as ambassador to ukraine. He coordinated u. S. Assistance to the former soviet union, and servings as Vice President at the United States institute of peace. Ambassador, great to have you. Looking at everything that has happened over the next couple of days. We have russian fighter jet flying over an american warship numerous times in a provocative action. The russians warned the ukrainians not to take military abss in the east actions in the east. The ukrainians warned them but they did it anything. Are things escalating and getting more dangerous . The russians are making it dangerous. They are sending in their people in eastern you crane. And you can see this as your report indicated in 10 or more cities. Small towns, they do the same thing. These provocateurs, these russians, from their Security Services come into a town. They are dressed the same, they have the same uniforms, no insignia, have the same weapons from russia, and have the same mode of operation. This is clearly organised by the russians. They are provoking the problem. Its similar to crime. Jay carney said any moves by russia into ukraine will come at a cost. President obama is said to have told Vladimir Putin to withdraw the troops sitting on the ukrainian border. Theyve been there for weeks. The European Union is threatening sanctions. Vladimir putin asked for a phone call with president obama. Do you think the threats are having an effect on him . I think the sanctions that have been put on him, and his the people around him, and his economy are having an effect. Now, whether those effects, whether the problem for the economy are getting through to him, its not clear. And, therefore, i would certainly recommend that we increase those sanctions, broaden them on more people and sectors of the economy so it is clear that hes getting the message, and he will take the actions that will reduce the pressure on him. Beyond the sanctions, what should we do. The white house says its not planning to send lethal aid to the ukraine, should the u. S. Send military support . Able so. I think we should consider it and grant the request that the ukrainians made. They are not asking for tanks and artillery and jet fighters, they are asking for fuel. They are asking for antitank weapons. They want to defend themselves. Thats a right of sovereign chases to defend themselves. We ought to help them. Peacekeeping troops to the eastern provinces has been asked for. Is there a chance that will happen, because russia can block moves by veto in the security council. I think its a very good idea. Its a very good idea to have neutral parties in ukraine, the east and kiev for that matter, to see and tell the world and the russians that all of the stories that the russians are telling are not true. That is, theres no threat to russians in ukraine. There are no there are no mobs in the streets in kiev. The only people that are providing the disag re gags and the problems in eastern part of ukraine are the russians, and these people from the u. N. Would credibly. Can russia just stop that from happening by vetoing it in the security council. Sure they can, and that would be further indication that they dont want to solve this, that they are provoking intentionally the problems in eastern ukraine. And ukraine had gip the separatists an ultimatum to clear out of the government buildings. It was monday, and instead of doing that they kept occupying other buildings. Does ukraine have the forces it needs to do the job to get rid of all these people because there are reports ta some Police Officers and other troops in that area are defecting from ukraine and going over to the russian side. I am sure there could be intuffedual examples of that. But its also the case that the that the Security Forces that are in kiev, that are under the command of central government, are loyal, are well trained and can take action when necessary. Theres a good number of well of train the army, military forces that could be pulled into action. No one wants to see a war between russia and ukraine. This would not be a civil war, this would be a war between russia and ukraine. The russians and ukrainians dont want to see it. If the russians provoke and send troops across the border, therell be fighting. 4way talks between ukraine, e. U. , russia or expected to get. I remain hopeful, the russians are coming in with demands that ukrainians will turn down. The russians want the ukrainians to dismember the ukraine. The europeans will not agree with that. The russians have to be prepared for disappoints. Its a good sign that they are talking, in that they, the russians are recognising the legitimate government in kiev. What about the constitution, giving provinces more independence. Some of what russia has asked for. The danger and concern is that that would allow the provinces to be taken over by the russians. President Oleksandr Turchynov indicated that he is willing to talk about some decentralisation. No one talks about federalization. But from decentralisation of decision making, would probably make sense. Hes talked about that. The first thing on the agenda, of course, is the president ial election on may 25th. Then they ought to be able to think through constitutional changes. There are parliamentary elections brought forward. Constitutional changes could be in order, and decentralisation away from the Current System to allow all the regions, not just the east, to make local decisions. There ought to be a single unified ukraine. They should be able to make the decisions without a russian gun to their heads. Coming up, Edward Snowdens leaks lead to one of journalisms most prestigious prizes, but congress is offering backlash. A boy trying to prove he was bullied is convicted of a crime, instead of bullies, that story infuriating countless online. Harmeli aregawi, our social webb. Eating meet is expensive. Details coming up. Let us know what you think. Join the conversation the new space race is here there are people right now who will walk on mars it could be a big payday for corporations the same companies will be controlling your life in space. Who will conquer the cosmos . These men believe the universe is theirs for the taking fault lines. Al jazeera americas hard hitting. Theyre locking the doors. Ground breaking. We have to get out of here. Truth seeking. Breakthrough investigative documentary series space inc. Only on Al Jazeera America reporting on Edward Snowdens n. S. A. Leaks have gone the guardian u. S. And the Washington Post Pulitzer Prizes for Public Service journalism. It helped to spark the debate for security and privacy, and for the post letting us know how it fits into the National Security. The awards are bound to be controversial given the charges Edward Snowden faces and the belief held by many that his revelations are the exact opposite of a Public Service. We are joined by washington d. C. By dylan byers, who writes the on media blog, and described it in a story. Dylan byers, good of you to join us to talk about this. If you look at this in the simplest way, Edward Snowdens leaks were the most influential journalistic story. You didnt tip your hat in the you didnt give your opinion in your peace. Did you have doubt despite the controversial nature of this that the Edward Snowden story would win the Pulitzer Prize. I had doubts. Its hard to see how the Pulitzer Prize board could look at the reporting, bar none, the most significant story of the year, if not the decade or the century, and not give the award to both papers who have down an enormous amount to sort of bring these revelations to light. Now, there is always the possibility that the board would air on the side of caution. If you look historically what they have done, you look at awaring the pend gone, it would be hard to see how they wouldnt award the post and guardian. The controversial erupt. Congressman peter king said a series of leaders called Edward Snowden a traitor. You mentioned in your piece, i believe, how barack obama referred to the people who helped Edward Snowden as accomplices. What do you think the reaction washington. You could anticipate this rehabilitation. I mean, theres no decision the board could make that was not going to elicit a reaction. If they didnt give the prize it will be a pull back from the journalistic community. If they did, there would be a blow back from Edward Snowdens critics, especially those in american government, and those on the right. Also obama has said that we dont know yet the full ramifications of Edward Snowdens leaks. At the same time obama has gone ahead and proposed revisions to the n. S. A. Surveillance practices. That was seep as a vind seen as a vindication of Edward Snowdens efforts, and this is seen as another vindication of his efforts. I wouldnt be surprised if we see more from peter king, dick cheney who called Edward Snowden ahead. On the journalistic side, you do a great job of laying out the pros and cons that the paul itser board had to take into consideration. One of the ones that you bring up is that no matter how strong the journal. May be or questioning how strong it is, bus in this case did the reporters serve as conduates, instead of doing the intensive investigative work that we normally associate with paul itsers . One thaping that the paul itser think that the paul itser board likes to honour is some local paper that spent years digging into a local corruption issue, they love to ward that stuff. At the same time i wouldnt estimate the amount of work that glenn greenwald, and barton put into this. Glenn greenwald went to hong trust. Both organizations spent a lot of time with the information, parsed it out, contextualized it. Some said the documents fell in their lap, thats not the case. A lot of work was done. We saw two different propose as to how the information presented. Thats what the art from the paul itser board was, as to why they awarded the paul itser to two different organizations for technically the same story. Absolutely. If you talk to the editors at the guardian and the post, they have a different view on how they contribu