Oligarchy oligarchy . Hello, im antonio mora welcome to consider this. Arurgent Video Conference with european today. The move comes as the situation in and around slaviansk and other cities becomes more tense. If the situation gets worse and sanctions are broaden that will have a more severe impact. Some climbers are packing up their bags and leaving. Sherpa guides have begun to leave the base camp. The sherpas know its not safe. House bill 60 will protect lawabiding citizens. Reporter republican governor signed a deal making it legal to have loaded weapons in bars, churches, and some government buildings. We begin with new calls to research the causes and possibly cures for gun violence in america at a time when gun supporters who reject that research seem to be on a role. Some 70,000 people are expected to at ten the National RifleAssociations Annual meeting. On the agenda, passing a federal law that would allow gun owners to pack their guns where conceal is banned. And this governor signed a deal that would allow loaded guns to be brought into bars, churches, school zones, government buildings even airports. We believe in the right of the people to defending themselves, and therefore, we believe in the second amendment. And today i will put into law a gun bill that harolds, selfdefense, personal liberties and public safety. Little wonder that Jack Kingston has changed his tune now that he is complaining for the senate. He rejects calls to research gun violence. He said the president s request to Fund Propaganda for his gungrabbing initiatives will not be included in the appropriations bill. Were joined by Carolyn Maloney who is pushing for the cdc to conduct Firearm Research. And mark rosenberg, as the former director of the National Center for injury prevention, he lead the cdcs Gun Violence Research in the 1990s. Thank you both for being with us. After newtown, congressman kingston was quite vocal about the fact that he felt more Research Needs to be done on gun violence, and now he has completely changed his tune. What do you say to him . What is so threatening about doing research . We Research Everything as as researchers can point out. Alone are we with Gun Safety Research in that they are initiatives to prohibit it. I would say no area should be so so so walled off that we cant research and find cures and solutions. I thought after sandy hook that there would be a lot of progun safety, but research, we need it in order to build a case, and the amount of gun violence in our boerld is staggering. 33,000 people a year die from gun violence, 32 people aday die from gun violence. And in 2012, 91 children died from gun violence. Works. Public laws in general isnt set without some research to back it up. Absolutely. By stopping the data, they are stopping progress in congress and senator markey and i have a bill in to allocate 10 million to the stern of Disease Control for Gun Safety Research. Dr. Rosenberg you are an nra member, i know you like to shoot i should say we invited the nra to participate in this discussion and they did not respond. What can research on gun violence do for us . Well, i think we have two really tough problems to solve. One is, as you mentioned that 30,000 people a year are killed by guns, so you want to prevent some of those deaths, especially suicides, and many, many of those deaths that are very preventable, but we have another problem at the same time, and that is that our gun rights are threatened. The rights of legitimate gun owners are under threat. And what we have got to do is find a way both to reduce fire arm injuries and deaths and to protect the rights of legitimate gun owners. If we only wanted to do one of those, we probably wouldnt need research. If all you wanted to do was protect the rights of legitimate gun owners, then dont allow any discussion about guns dont allow that to go on. If all you wanted to do was prevent firearm injuries and deaths then take guns away from all civilians, but we want to solve both problems at the same time, and there are ways to do it, but if you want to figure out what works to achieve both of these goals at the same time, you need to do research to find out the answer. And right now we dont know what works. We dont know that letting more people carry concealed weapons in public will save lives and promote security. We dont even know that that will protect telerights of legitimate gun owners. So were asking politicians to sign bills when they have no idea what the impact of those bills would be. Its not fair for us to ask politicians to pass on bills when we dont give them the evidence about what works and what doesnt. Were flying blind in an area thats critically important to our health and safety. On your website you mention a whole bunch of different initiatives that you have got. Including making gun trafficking illegal, requiring universal background checks for gun buyers, and others, but isnt it a forgone conclusion in an election year, none of that is going to move forward . Well, you can always try. And his point is true, you can find common ground. There is no reason why you cant research how to prevent gun deaths and absolutely protect the right to bare arms. None of my bills would take guns away from a lawabiding person, but as we learned in webster new york many mentally ill people get illegal guns. And right after sandy hook a man got a straw purchaser to get illegal guns and set fire to his house and proceeded to kill fire officers and Police Officers who were coming to save him. So its multifacetted issue. We need to look at mental health, and cut down on illegal gun trafficking. Its not a felony to traffic and sell illegal guns in our country. This is an outrage. Most nra members that i know tell me they absolutely support this bill. The antigun Safety Movement in congress is so deep and strong that even the nra supports we cant pass. Dr. Rosenberg, chris cox has said that where cdc research is concerned that their certain is. So is the issue, should the cdc not be the place where the research is conducted because of prevention . First you need to realize when people dont like the results that they are getting from honest scientific research, they try to discredit the researcher and methods. And the nra did not like the result that suggested that having a firearm in your home not only doesnt protect you, but puts you at 300 more risk that someone in your family will be killed in a homicide, and 500 more risk that someone in your family will be killed in a suicide. So the nra didnt like the fact that teleresearch showed that having your gun in your home put you at more risk. In fact cdc is the only agency that has the background in and the skills to look at the broader picture. Nih can look at problems of mental illness, and what happens when the mentally ill have firearms, the department of justice can look at what happens when convicted fell lens and criminals have firearms, but cdc can look at what is the impact on the population as a whole . They have the tools to do it, and they do very high quality research. We trust them with our lives in other areas. Do you agree . Absolutely. Because there is funding for research at other agencies. Absolutely. And the ban is unique to gun safety. I dont know of any other area where you are literally banned from doing this type of research. The president did an executive order that said that research could take place in this order, and it makes it clear that the dickey amendment did not safety. I want to bring up one more thing with you dr. Rosenberg. The cdc has not been funded to do anything on gun safety since the 1990s, but you have written we have spent billions of dollars on prevention of auto accidents, to understand how traffic accidents are killing people, that has been incredibly successful. Do you think research in this field can do the same thing . Without question, it can. And jay dickey the congressman who opposed cdc and whos amendment took away the funding for Firearm Research has over the years become a friend, and we both agree that this research is so important. Its a matter of life and death, and jay dickey could today say that was a mistake and we need to do everything we can to get this Research Going again. Important discussion given how many people are dying. Thank you. And doctor appreciate you both for joining us. Thank you so much. Thank you. Its important to be here. Thank you for focusing on this important issue. Switching to the crisis in ukraine, prorussian activists continued to hold buildings and man road blacks in the eastern region. They control the city of slaviansk where they reportedly seized a bus carrying international observers. And with Russian Troops reportedly within 1100 yards of ukraines border at one point acting yushgian president meanwhile president obama threatened russian president Vladimir Putin with a new round of sanctions if russia continued to stall on crisis. President putin is not a stupid man, and i think recently acknowledged that this has already had an impact. And certainly if the situation gets worse and sanctions are broadened to an entire sector, impact. For more im joined from london by the u. S. Ambassador to the organization for security and cooperation in europe, the osce. What have you heard about the certain observers in slaviansk . Can you confirm that they have been detained . I have seen the reports about the terrorist tactic of kidnaps which is really disturbing, and certainly we becry that. There is an ocse Monitoring Mission on the ground. The reports are these are not members of that Monitoring Mission. Separately there are military observers invited by ukraine under a document called the vienna document, that have been rotating through over the last couple of months. The reports seem to indicate that this is a team of those observers, and of course yes ear very concerned about their wellbeing, and we decry this kind of terrorist tactic of kidnapping people and holding them hostage. What was the role of the observers in Eastern Ukraine . And are you surprised that prorussian militants might be involved in this . Russia is a signatory of thef vienna document, and i wish i could say im surprised, but considering the egregious misdeedsover the Russian Federation over the last few months unfortunately this appears to be another escalation. And the tensions we are seeing, those would not be happening without the russian involvement. And now we have situation of host age taking, and it underscores how critically important it is for russia to stop being destructive and start being constructive. Have osce observers seen anything to show that russia has been doing anything to be constructive . I know Angela Merkel spoke to Vladimir Putin ta told him they needed to do something. They are doing absolutely nothing good and everything bad. And as you said last week in geneva there was an offramp offered to the Russian Federation. This was a chance for them to put their actions behind their words. And the agreement outlined very concretely some initial steps towards deescalation, and the Ukrainian Government snapped in to action immediately, took many steps within 24 hours, they introduced a new amnesty law in the parliament, the Prime Minister made public commitments to open transparent constitutional reform process. We made public reassurance to russian speaking your next questionians, and made pressure on those remains on the mie done to pull down barricades and open up the streets, and the russians have done nothing. And talking about what the russians are saying and doing rush foreign minister said. Thats the russian narrative, that what they are trying to do is a Peace Keeping mission, because russians and prorussian people are suffering at the hands of this new Ukrainian Government. How concerned are you that this could turn into open conflict . Of course nobody wants conflict, but what the Russian Foreign minister, and Foreign Ministry accuse others of their own sins. The United States and our European Partners have been very clear about what we want out of this. We want to support the ukrainian people in choosing their own destiny. That is what our goal is. The Russian Federation is fomenting the unrest, trying to cause problems, they are using their agents to foe meant this unrest, and they need to stop it. The acting president was beating the war drums on friday in response to claims that russians military might being sent across the border. He said. Now i understand that ukraine is a sovereign state, but with statements like that it sure sounds like they are preparing for conflict. What is escalating tensions is the fact that the russians have amassed 10s of thousands of troops on the border. They are feeding a propaganda war, its just not true. They have attempted to provoke a response. They are working round the russians are working round the clock to sew the seeds of restriction and been trying to invoke reaction over the last couple of months. But i dont think theres anything escalating about a government saying they intend to defend their borders. 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The new Al Jazeera America mobile app, available for your apple and android mobile device. Download it now new avalanches on Mount Everest friday along the same root where 16 sherpas died last week. No one was hurt in the latest avalanches, but now it is almost certain that nobody will be able to reach the peak from the nepal side this year. Joining us is the man who had hoped to be the oldest american to reach the peak. Ed good to have you with us. Im very sorry for your loss and what you went through. I would like to start with the friday . Yes, thats true. There has been a series of them. Before i move on, i would like to come mend al jazeera to bringing this issue to the publics attention. You guys were there from the beginning and all the way through, so congratulations on doing Something Wonderful for these people. Thanks. And i know this was everything but wonderful for you. You saw the deadly avalanche and there. Ash is still there, there are additional avalanches. The ministers have seen them and heard them and felt them. I was in a helicopter pad talking off the other day coming back here, and i saw it, and i saw the ministers hospital there, yet when we were asked by reporters aliving in lupa had they been earthquakes, i can still see the minister holding up his hand saying no, no, no. Its nothing. It is very dangerous time. So were hoping that the climbers the very em emphatic climbers wont force and bully sherpas in to coming and risking their lives in the future. But still the government is denying any dangers, and its a tough situation. Lets talk about that, because after the deadly avalanche there have been all sorts of reports of all sorts of conflicts on the mountain. Sherpas in general did not want to climb this year in honor of those who died. Some reports say that some sherpas did want to continue the climb, and there was this duel pressure from the government which makes a lot of money from expeditions and from the mountaineering companies . I didnt see any problems when the sherpas. They were absolutely united. It was the pressure from the large tour guides companies putting pressure on the government, and, you know, theres some people have this attitude and i guess they need to have them that theyll do anything to summit the mountain, everest, and they get carried away with that and loose site of what real ta is, and the safety of themselves and the sherpas. The sherpas are fearful of being fired so they might be coerced in to going. But the sherpas know when something is dangerous and they were staying away. The sherpas have decided to create what is called the wall of shame, they are going to put monuments on the way up for any foreign hiker that summits this year, saying that they did it over the dead bodies of the sherpas and with additional dangers, so any of these guys think they are going to be climbing for their ego, they will have the wall of shame so people know who they are for the next 50 years. I know you have launched an online fund to raise money for ashs family and other families of victims. Out . Were hoping to get concessions from the government. We really dont care right now, thanks to you and al jazeera, and many of the other networks, were racing quite a bit of money, every penny of which will go to the sherpas, the 16 that died and their families. The government may have a problem with a program called the government liaison,