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ALJAZAM Consider This June 21, 2014

And how to learn on a goats battle with depression. Here is more. Consider this. Rick perry, texas governor, border. Launching a surge operation. To the tune of 1. 3 million mer week. Vice President Joe Biden is in guatemala. The u. S. Pledges 250 million to deal with the problem. Frances political talks are going on in baghdad. The shia majority calling for a government. The efforts will be successful if iraq aleaders rise aknov above their differences. This is one of the deeply flawed parts of our judicial legal system. What to do with children. At 16, its too early to write them off for life. He did an adult crime. We begin with the u. S. Military advisors on their way to iraq as calls for Prime Minister Nouri Almaliki to step down get louder. The grand ia toldy cleric in iraq ia toldy cleric in iraq called for an offensive. A top sunni commander, considered a master mind after Saddam Hussein was deposed, says thousands of his men are working with the i. S. I. L. Militants, and they will fight. He warned that they are not aparade of a civil war afraid of a civil war. A chilling recruitment for i. S. I. L. Is encouraged muslims to head to syria and iraq, and warns of a bigger war. We somewhere letters from bangladesh, from iraq, from cambodia, australia, u. K. The fighting fighting enemies. No one does it like us. We will go to iraq in a few days and fight. And we will come back and go to jordan or lebanon with no problems. The video coming as the Obama Administration is viewing the crisis in syria and iraq as a single challenge or a threat. We are joined from baghdad by correspondent omar al saleh. More fighting in the anbar province, we are seeing pictures of what the Iraqi Government says is a fight over iraqs largest oil refinery, despite the fact that i. S. I. L. Raised its flag there. What is going on . Well, in anbar province, there were two attacks. The first happened in gunmen attacked a convoy of new recruits, killing 16 of those recruits. In another part north of fallujah, there was a suicide bomber driving a truck loaded with explosive, targeted a building that houses government soldiers. That attack killed 20. Back to beigy, it is still under the control of the rebels from the Islamic State of iraq and levant, backed by other sunni fighters. When it comes to the refinery, the government is in control of the refinery. I. S. I. L. Fighters attack the refinery. The government is telling us they killed dozens of attackers. It is, however, shut. What about the government of Nouri Almaliki. Vladimir putin is pledging support, american help is on the way, and Nouri Almaliki is losing support upon the base. One of the most important clerics said that Nouri Almaliki has to go. Politically. Thats anyones gs at this statement anyones guess at this stage, because Nouri Almaliki is emboldened. He has the support of the community, from volunteers to beef up the security. He also has managed to portray this fight as a fight against terror. Thats why he galvanised most of the shia support. When it comes to the grand ayatollah, he is influential. He made a statement through a representative in a sermon. He called on the politicians to act quickly to form a new government and called on the parliament to convene as soon as possible to choose a speaker of personal, a president and a new government that meets the aspirations of the iraqi people, and to correct the mistakes that were committed. Now, here lies the whole thing, some are interpreting this as a criticism towards the Prime Minister from the grand ayatollah. Others are saying, no, its not a direct criticism, he is calling the grand ia tolla, calling on politicians to unite to end the violence. The Prime Minister, as i said, wants to win a determined office, trying to form the coalition, to form a government. He is not letting it slip through. He wants a third term in office. Talking about the war on terror. The sheikh, the master mind of the sunni insurgency that fault the u. S. During the war is saying in an interview with the telegraph, one of the only interviews he has done, that if Nouri Almaliki doesnt step down, his men will take baghdad back, and says i. S. I. L. Is not the biggest part of the insurgency and doesnt care about the civil war. How much of a threat is he, or the people that report to him. I think its important. These guys have power. Its not about individuals here. What is happening, i think, its a marriage of convenience between all the worrying factions, including i. S. I. L. With others. If you look at them they have different ideologies, the sunni groups of the iraqi army including other islamists that fought the americans when they occupied this country, they dont care about i. S. I. L. Ideology, they are united against a common enemy. These guys seem to be serious and want to go all the way to baghdad. If it happens politically, it will slow things down. If it didnt happen theyll continue. Theres one important thing that we need to look at here. The politicians that are talking to each other here in baghdad and others from all different sides, mainly the sunnis, do not have a lot of sway on the fighters that are leading the insurgency or the rebellion against the Nouri Almaliki government. No one has influence, or on other bathists or nationalist figures who say they are united against an insufficient government that they describe as an agent government for the u. S. And iran. Their goal is set. They want to take bag dad. Its a complicated mess. Omar al saleh thank you for joining us. For more we are joined from the studio in washington d. C. , from the dean of the john hopkins school, hes an author. Good to have you with us. Lets start with what we were discussing with omarks the founder of the islamic army says the takeover of the northwest iraq is not just i. S. I. S. Its other militias and others working together. Is there a sunni revival that can threaten baghdad . I dont think it can get to baghdad as easily as it swept across the north. That kind of a scenario doesnt exist in southern iraq. They can encircle baghdad, send suicide bombers in, threaten it, but they can not march through north. You said that president obama must walk a delicate line, that we cant become the air force of the sunni militias. What should we do . We can be the airsupports of the shiites. I apologise, the shiites. Our mission is clear. We cannot tolerate extremists of the kind we see in the band of terrorism. That is the mandate in iraq. We are not there to referee the shia sunni issue. We are there to protect that country and ourselves against extremism. How do we do that. Does it mean we have to take the side of the she items and use shiites and use the air force to bomb the militia. One of the mistakes is to lijiate the appearance of legitimate the presence of i. S. I. S. The sunnis may be unhab with Nouri Almaliki unhappy with Nouri Almalikis form of government. They are right. But its not allowable for them to make i. S. I. S. The answer. Lets talk about iran, the Deputy Foreign minister for arab and African Affairs reacted to a plan showing that the u. S. Is terrorism. There was a quote do they have a point. We saw Vladimir Putin coming out in support of the Nouri Almaliki government on friday. Hes on the shiite side in iran and syria. Iranians. If we are going to persuade Nouri Almaliki to compromise and to follow our advice, we need irans backing because iran has a lot more influence in iraq than we do at the moment, and Nouri Almaliki has no reason to listen to us if we are not going to give him military support, no force on the ground to compel him to listen to us. We need the iranians to back him. I think the iranians would like to use iraq to change american policy in syria. But pointing out that i. S. I. S. Was carrying terrorism and if you fight them in iraq, you should change the policy in syria. They are trying to push the policy. The Washington Post is reporting that president obama is seeing the crisis in iraq as a single challenge, a threat to the regions stability, and even a threat to us in the United States. How could they just be beginning to see this . Well, that is a good question. Everybody in the region understood that syria and iraq are connected together. That there is a lot of tribes that share kinship across the two borders, and the issues in both syria and iraq parallel one another, mirror one another. We have sectarian tensions between majority shi eats and sunnis, minority superies and alawites in syria. The same actors, saudi arabia, iran, turkey engaged in both countries on the same side. Its a regional issue, we are only seeing the implications. Lets listen to something president obama said about the terrorist threat on thursday. We have problems with terror organizations that may be advancing. Rather that try to play whacka mow, wherever the terrorist organizations pop up, we have to build effective partnerships, capacity. You know, havent we been playing waca mow and the partnerships, you talk about the broader region, there are so many different interests there. Can those partnerships get together to fight the wider war on terror . They could if the United States would really get engaged and the u. S. Has been disengaged from the region. Countries will not follow the United States lead if the u. S. Is not willing to exercise leadership. It requires following commitment to fighting i. S. I. S. , diplomatic issues and taking them seriously. Some of these partners were not on the same page. I. S. I. S. Benefited from the support of governments and private individuals, and, therefore, for the United States to deal with the complex issues, iran on the one side, saudi arabias on the other, get everyone on the assume pain, it has to change its attitude and become more involved. Going back to the sunni alliance, are we seeing the dismemberment of iraq and seeing the creation of a sunni stand and state. We see the dismemberment of iraq. Syria is more intact. The disintegration of iraq began when the kurd got de facto independence from iraq, and they are an autonomous unit within iraq. And the victorian territory is open to question. We have a political situation between sunnis and shiites that are polarized and difficult to bridge, and now its taken a military tone to it. Its difficult to see how the country keeps together under one leadership in baghdad. As you mentioned the kurd, they were autonomous. They took kirkuk. The deputyie Prime Minister said the iraq we knew has come to an end. Will this be like the old yewing , a number yugoslavia, a number of new states rising from the old. Everyone in yewing was clear that yugoslavia was clear they dont want to live together. The sunnis and shiites have not dom the conclusion. They believe they can exist in iraq. On the kurd have an independent identity. As the violence goes forward and hatred grows and vengeance takes over and each side kills and attacks the other, the fabric that keeps the country together will stretch and possibly break apart. Then well basically see a very bloody end to the current territorial map of iraq. A final question about the threat to the west. Theres a recruitment video showing australian and british nationals. We know a french recruit committed an act of terrorism in belgium. How big of a danger is this . It is a very big danger. We saw the scenario unfolding in afghanistan. When you have a failed state you have conflict on the ground that attracts extremists and recruits from around the world. Ultimately those people return to their own country, they are not longer going to be integrated into their own societies and theyll bring the experience of the war back from the region to their home countries. Syria is a lot closer to europe and the United States. Its closer to the rest of the arab world. Well see blow back from what is happening in syria and iraq across the region, and potentially in the west. So many issues and concerns. Us. Thank you. Now for stories from around the world. We begin in washington dc where a congressional hearing over the irs scandal as heated on friday. Irs commissioner defended the disappearance of emails belonging to the disgraced former director of the irs exempt division. It could contain evidence that the agency targeted conservative Citizens Group for scrutiny. Paul ryan exploded, accusing costanin are lying to hide the loss of the emails. Im sittingling to the testimony. I just i dont believe it. Thats your problem. Nobody believes you. Being forthcoming is to say you know what, investigators. Will you let him answer the question. I didnt ask him a question. Next to ukraine where president petro porashenko signed a unilateral ceasefire asking police units to fire if fired upon. Russians ambassador to the unsays its premature to discuss whether russia agrees with the plan, because they havent seen it. Prorussian separatists will not lay down the arms until the ukranian military pulls out of the eastern iraq. We look at a problem. Friday is World Refugee day. We have for the First Time Since the world war ii, more than 50 Million People displaced by war or persecution. Last year we had ha megacrisis, syria. We had mallee, south sued , some south sudan, somalia they go on and on and on, without finding a solution. The u. N. High commissioner political. That is some of what is happening around the world. Coming up, temaze is taking matters into its own hands on the u. S. Border. There are questions about how effective Law Enforcement will be. And whether kids who can commit violent crimes, can be redeemed. And harmeli aregawi tracks the top stories on the web. A reaction to a mug shot has people scratching their heads. Join in the conversation on tech know, that is immense. There a misunderstood. Vital part of the ecosystem. Is a tiger shark. First one of the expodition can they be saved . Sharks dont eat people. Tech know, every saturday go where science meets humanity. This is some of the best driving ive every done, even though i cant see. Tech know. Were here in the vortex. Only on Al Jazeera America. Texas governor rick perry has a plan to combat the surge of immigrants crossing the boarder with a surge of his own. He pledged 1. 3 million every week to reinforce border operations. Much of the influx is from women and children who turn themselves in to Border Patrol officers. Is more Law Enforcement the real solution. Lets bring in a democrat relating the 29th district of texas, opposing the surge to secure the bored. His district, including el paso has been affected by the migrants from distral america. The State Government says safety and security of of texans is threatened. How bad is the situation . Its not bad at all. I disagree with the governor and those who insist that they need to put more boots on the ground, more border enforcement as a result of the undocumented, unaccompanied children coming to the United States. This is not a Border Security issue. This, to me, is a humanitarian refugee issue. These children are unaccompanied, they are minors, they are not terrorists or criminals. They are turning themselves over to the Border Patrol. They are fleeing violence in central america. Its only not only that, many have their parents in the United States to many are coming to link with the parents. I think that the governors approach is the wrong approach. He should be focussing and putting resources into providing assistance to these children. This is a humanitarian crisis, not a Border Security crisis, and fun money. Most agree, but others argue its a border crisis. Governor perry argues that texas cannot afford to wait for washington. The governor said the federal government abdicated responsibility to secure the border and protect the country. Are they right. We have seen the video of people taking jet skis and walking into parks and parking lots and moving on. I realise that el paso is not the center of it. Texas. Look, we have a federal government responsibility for securing the border. The federal government spent billions on a high wall, or more boots on the ground. We have gone to 4,000 to 21 thoz Border Patrol in the last several years and invested a lot of security money from the state of texas, upwards of 300 million this year alone for Border Security. The governor now is proposing to add 30 million because the children are coming over the border. So my view is that this is not a border enforcement issue, its a humanitarian refugee issue. What do we do when refugees flow do. Im a beneficiary of that. Im a cuban exile and grateful to the generosity of this country that took us in. I understand some of the other arguments. What about what the governor is saying, that texas resources are overwhelmed. If theres a natural disaster, texas wont be in a position to take care of its own citizens. I believe the federal government is sending personal to south texas, and resources. They were unprepared and we want to hear we had 350 of these children brought in by the customs people, and they have moved on to arizona. There Many Organizations with sectors, faithbased and others none profit that can provide services to the children. The governor ought to be putting the state resources, the money to open

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