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ALJAZAM Consider This August 27, 2014

June. Expectations are not particularly high. 10 years ago, it was alqaeda. Now, its isis. Calling them more dangerous than alqaeda. Sundayscores how we have to meet the threat. Its an attempt to create an ideal university. We want to elevate what an undergraduate degree is about. Its not like sitting passively like a sponge. All those who made it to the world game. Short in their inspiring bid to make history. Let them live up. New takes on the ice bucket challenge. Collecting it from various places. We begin with news out of gaza as the israelis and palestinians announce an openended cease fire ending seven weeks of fighting that has left more than 2100 dead in gaza and at least 69 dead in israel. The egyptianbrokered agreement leaves many of the thorniest issues, including hamass demand for a seaport and israels demand to future negotiations. When gazans took to the streets in celebration, Palestinian Mac mood abbas expressed tempered enthusiasm for the deal. What nix . What next . We will present to the leadership a vision for the solution and we will continue to talking with the International Community, but it must be a clear and specifically vision from a to z do hold murky talks is something that we cannot keep on doing. Meanwhile is rai meanwhile is raiiisisi gov reggev. Many people will be asking why is it that today hamas accepted the very same egyptian framework that it rejected a month ago . You wouldnt matly, so much avoided. Joining me now from, a 7 ario fellow person in task force on palestine. Hussein, good to have you here. A lot of people were not expecting this to happen. Israel had been very firm no cease fire while there is still activity, while rockets are still being fired and then we got the ceasefire open ended. Tell me what this means and how it happened. , i dont think it was that big of a surprise for those who were following it closely because what you could see was the conflict winding do you down. The a lot of ordinance hamas had left to fire was clearly being atrophied both by using it and by israel destroying t they were starting to lose some senior commanders and otisis side, i think there was also a question of diminishing returns. How much more could they possibly accomplish . And were they doing anything to restore deterrence as they put it or create calm in the south . The answer was no. We reached a point where neither side was creating strappedegic changes on the ground and therefore, a ceasefire became possible. Whats interesting is the terms are similar if not the same as what was first put on the table by egypt almost 408 days ago. Lets play this out. Whats happening then . Why has this wrling gained ground where the last didnt . I cant its exhaustion on the part of hamas but also on the part of the israeli prime minister. Benjamin netanyahu for the first part of this conflict it was popular. 80 approval ratings. He is 38 . Thats pretty bad. From a political point of view, its long since time for him to get out. I dont think theusii military was keen on this. They know they cant accomplish much in gaza unless they reoccupy it fully and police the streets. So i dont think they ever fully realized or agreed with the Political Leadership that there was any great strategic benefit to this. As far as hamas was concerned, i think they were running out of steam people were getting frustrated with them, at least some people. There was a point of exhaustion and diminishing returns. The time was right. This is seems to have puts Benjamin Netanyahu in pressure. Members of the cabinet seemed to not be behind this move . Right. Parts of the israeli public are saying this is a job unfinished . But its not finishable. Thats the point mr. Netanyahu miscalculated rather badly when he spoke of restoring detterrence and of restoring calm to the south. Can only done by reoccupying gaza fully by israel troops policing the streets a their not prepared to do that. There is no constituency for that in israel everyone in spite of the several wars with hamas. It was an empty prompts and a political mistake and so i think reece got a political problem hamas has a politic problem. They will realize this is the biggest blow they have taken and that they havent achieved anything that i can identify that either, amount, wasnt on the table 48 days ago, right at the beginning from the e jipingsdz or, b, its any different than the 20012 ceasefy agreement they vicinity accomplished much either. What about mac mood abbas who was persona nongrata not too long ago with hamas and they formed a unity government and he ceasefire. Yes. What role is he playing here . Its intravery interesting. One of hamass key aims because i think they are always more interfered in their rivalry than anything to do with israel, a secondary matter for them because i think they are vying for control one of their aims was to establish themselves as the diplomatic and political address for the palestinians of gaza, maybe not in the west bank but at least in gaza between egypt and the rest of the International Community werent allowed to do that president obama has been at the center piece of all of this. Its going to take some manoeuvring, dest manoeuvring on his part to remain in stage. Hes got some real challenges here as well because the extent to which hes going to be he is now through this unity government going to be responsible for the day to day goverance in gaza or at least in the crossing areas when are responsibility. Its go to be difficult not to come to blows with hamas over some of these issues if they really do try to exercise authority in gaza above hamas and the other thing is, he has to watch how hamas might try to use the unity government to gain a foot hold in the west bank. They tried to do that and both the pa and the israelis stopped them violently and politically in the past few weeks, couple of months, but they are still, i think, trying to use this agreement, i think really to pass responsibility parts of gaza on to somebody else namely the pa and get back in to the west bank where the action is. If they think thats where the action is, they are right. What an interesting development. That you were for joining us. A pleasure to see you . Thank you. A senior fellow at the palestine. Russian platt Vladimir Putin and Petro Poroshenko shook hands tuesday before starting talks on crain. Its already claimed more than 2200 lives. Putin later said it was up to poor to work out a ceasefire with prorussian separatists and urged him not to escalate ukraines offensive in the east. Poroshenko said a roadmap would be drawn up to make a ceasefire possible and that the talks had been quote tough and complex. Meanwhile, ten russian pair atroopers could have used a roadmap. Russias Defense Ministry said they were quote lost when Ukrainian Forces captured them on ukraines side of the border with russia. For more, joined from washington, d. C. By ambassador kirk volker, a former u. S. Am bass tore to nado and Deputy Assistant for european and your Asian Affairs now director for the mccain leadership. Ambassador volker, thank you for being with us . Great to you to be with you. An interesting day Vladimir Putin told Petro Poroshenko not to escalate the conflict in crain and just before that, ukraine released video of what it says are russian pair troopers russia, by the way, Defense Ministry says those people they got you are seeing on the video here crossed in to the border in to ukraine, crossed through the border in to ukraine accidentally. Conflict . Exactly. This is an al is in wonder land world where the guy that is fomenting, suppliesing troops and weapons has invaded the country. Now telling the ukrainians not insa insane. We need to be pushing back very hard on russia for what its doing. We need to be calling it for what it is, an invasion to take over the territory. They have taken and we need to possible. National security advisor susan rice tweeted that russias military incursions in to ukraine, artat, air Defense Systems an dozens of tanks and military personnel represent significant escalation warrant of a counter offensive directed by moscow. What is russia trying to achieve . Looking for a military victory in Eastern Ukraine . Are they looking to be provocative . What are they trying to get . I think there is a couple of things. One of them is that this plays to putins domestic audience. Second, its about giving the sense of great nationshood to russia. Russia is looking out for the russianspeaking population slounding russian territory. They want those people to be brought in to the fold even territorially inside russia like the 1930s in germany we heard. Finally, russia wants decisive influence over the affairs of its neighboring states particularly those that were yut. Would include ukraine. They are using this for pressure. There is no let up in sight. Putin is going to keep going down this road because he doesnt see any effective pushback on him right now. You mentioned 1930s germany but the parallels are actually remarkable pockets of ethnic germans in neighboring countries that caused germany to extend the umbrella of protection over them or at least use that excuse. That is something that countries that are neighboring russia are concerned about right now. Thats exactly right. I am pleased with how nato has responded with respect to nato members. Includes the baltic states. We have seen an increase in air policing. We have seen an increase in exercises, in military presence. President obama is going to be visiting estonia on his way to the nato summit in wales. Is in good shape. What we should worry about, though, is ukraine today, you know, this is not going away. Weve got a problem in ukraine, and we should be thinking about other countries that are not nato members where there is a russian speaking minority, such as,fold, in maldonado vmaldova, it could declare itself independent or watting to join with russia. We have seen russia occupy parts of georgia as well. We have to be vigilant here. You at that about playing to a domestic audience. Playing on this russian nationalism, the idea that its us against the rest of the world. Russia is good at this, and the ta subscribe to this to some degree. These says are hutting russiass sxheings. Could end up being less than zero growth ultimately putin gets the say. They are squeezing us. He is developing enough of a plan that he can continue to work with increased or increasing sanctions . He certainly intends to be able to do that he believes he can ride out these sanctions longer than europe is willing to impose them. He believes he can rachet down at any time. Then europe will want to bet back to relations as normal. Like in world war ii, we had victory gardens. People were willing to sacrifice for a cause. He has convinced the russian people through manipulation and control of the media in that they have a cause and they are willing to bear sacrifice in the name of russian greatness. Lets go back to 1930s, german and rope where there was this concept. Are you worried maybe europe is sitting there thinking hopefully it doesnt get worse . They did breach a European Border for the first time effect you havely since the war and certainly since the cold ward. They did it first in georgia six years ago and now they have done it again in ukraine and yes, i think europe is thinking, okay. As soon as this calms down, its all back to normal and i think they are missing putin. This isnt the normal for him. He is trying to stoke up these kind of conflicts, build the sense of russian greatness, changes things where he can. And we need a much more eventive and stronger up back from europe and the United States. What do i can you returned with colderwealth and the natural gas worst person that russia has . Yes because one of the things that would have some impact on russia would be to restrict sales of nationural gas to euro this would be europe turning the tables and saying instead of being dependent upon russia, we are going to use the fact we are large consumers of russian natural gas as a weapon to hurt the russian economy. Apart is betting europe wont do that. The closer wet good to cooler weather, less likely europe would do that. One would argue thats true . Of course its true. The divenlths here is the difference between a democracy in western europe and an authortarian situation that you have in russia. Putin is the sole decider inside russia. He can play games. He is run a risk. Its control the lever of where russian policy goes. Democratic governments have to think about voters. We saw this week the french government completely resign and be replaced because of failures in the economic policy. Other governments in western europe dont want that. Thats what they would be afraid of if their pubs were clamoring. Ambassador, good to talk to you. Appreciate your time . My pleasure. Former ambassador kirk volker joining us. More stories around the world we begin in ferguson, missouri where new evidence in the shooting of Michael Brown surfaced. A man who lives near the shooting scene was able to capture audio of the scene while he was in the middle of a video chat. At least 10 shots can be heard with a pause in the middle. You are pretty. You are so fine. Going over some of your videos. The f. B. I. Reportedly interviewed the unidentified man about his recording but have yet to comment on the authenticity of the tape. Next, we head to france where a day after the government was dissolved, a new government has been named in conjunction with his prime minister, manuel vols. The charge the change was made in order to replace members who had regeld against new off theerity measure. The former banker and Economic Advisor to the president will take up the job of economy minister replacing one who by many was considered the head of the pushback with the 17 approval rating, many see this as the last chance for olan to salvage his fiveyear term, which will end in 2017. We end in england where Manchester United has spent a british record 99 million to acquire a player from real madrid. The 26yearold arrange en tin yall midfielder signed a 5 year deed which put Manchester United total spending at 215 million. While a british record, five other players had higher transfer fees with the highest being gareth bail transferred for 123 million to real madrid last year. Some of whats happening around the world. Coming up, we keep hearing the Islamic State is the most threatening Extremist Group in the world. Why . A former cia director on the group he called more dangerous than alqaeda. Should someones background like their family and hometown be relevant to how they are sentenced for crimes . Is it prejudice . Our social media producer is tracking the top stories on the web. Whats trending . The als ice bucket challenge has become more than what it used to be. Several spin offs highlighting various causes are gaining traction online. I will tell you more coming up. While you are watching, let us know what you know. Join the conversation on twitter ajconsiderthis and on our facebook and twitter pages. Stuart Stuart Stuart stuart check it out. This my account thing. We can tweet directly toa comcast expert for help. Or we can select a time for them to call us back. The future, right . This doesnt do it for you . [ doorbell rings, dog barks ] oh, thats what blows your mind the advanced technology of a doorbell. [ male announcer ] tweet an expert and schedule a callback from any device. Introducing the xfinity my account app. Just base that we needed more, there were new reasons tuesday over the is lallic state group. The white house confirmed Douglas Macarthur mccain realtime died fighting for the isil. Senior u. S. Officials said mccain was one of about 100 americans to have taken up arms for the Islamic State. Multiple sources also said tuesday that the Islamic State was holding a 26yearold female american aid worker for a 6. 6 million ransom. Meanwhile, president obama has approved aerial surveillance of possible Islamic State targets. As officials grapple with how best to respond to the groups threats to attack america. For more, i am joined from washington, d. C. By john mcglocland, the former appe director teaching at international studies. Mr. Mcglocland thank you for joining us. You have written very succinctly on i. S. And you said us lammic state group is a greater threat than alqaeda was before 911. I want to break that down and find out why you say that. Lets start with the base. Alqaeda had a safe haven in afghanistan at least until 2001 thanks to being guests of the taliban. Why do you say that i s. Has a better situation . Well, alqaeda had that base until they did the 911 attacks. By november of 2001, we had basically changed alqaeda out of afghanistan, scatter it in to pakistan and in to the persian gulf. These guys, is, have a huge base in which they are not the guests. They are the government of many parts of this territory, about 4 thrift miles from aleppo and syria all the way to the outskirts of baghdad so its a much different situation in terms of the territory they have acquired and control. And even though there are forces around the world looking to certainly, you know, at least move them out of iraq, they still operate with remarkable impunity in syria. Yes. Thats the other thing that i think we have to think about when we compare this to 911 and alqaeda at that time the. Alqaeda lost its safe haven after 2001. These people have a huge safe haven in syria and particularly in the northeast in rakav processs where they have taken over a Syrian Military facility. So thats a very different situation. We now have a situation in which to destroy any terrorist group, one of the thing you have to do is deny it safe haven. So ultimately, any approach to dealing with is will have to involve a syria component. Been a lot of development, discussion in the last few days about what kind of threat to the west i s. Poses. There are some who say they are busy building their state and trying to and maybe actually having some success in doing so. Not really worried about the west in

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