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ALJAZAM Consider This September 24, 2014

Healthy, themselves and air crafts. Successful from that perspective and something that we are carefully preparing for. You talked about the significance of the five Sunni Arab States providing assets. Four of them ken etic action in the bombing, including reports that raptors, f22s, coming from the united arab emirates. Contributions . They were very significant, and on the third wave of the strikes, half of the aircraft that flew were from the arab nations, not the United States. There were significant contributions, and we are grateful for that participation. Continue . We certain hope so. I dont want to telegraph future operations, as you know. Not so much whether the u. S. Will attack on a daily basis or not. But do you expect the coalition to contribute that ken etic force that you talked about. We hope that that continues. We cant speak for other nations or what theyll contribute. We were grateful for the support continue. Lets talk about the strikes on the Khorasan Group, the Al Qaeda Affiliated group. Do we have an assessment on whether we managed to disrupt the ability. We are assessing those strikes. We believe that we have disrupted the groups capabilities, we were in the final staples of planning for an attack, perhaps in europe and the homeland. We hit them pretty hard. We know that we have disrupted the capabilities. The degree to which we did that, we are trying to figure it out. Can you speak to whether the plot as has been reported to develop a bomb, a nonmetallic bomb that could be part of container . No, i dont have much detail on that, im afraid. We are not going to talk about Intelligence Matters here. All i can say is we have good, solid information that they were nearing the end game, planning for an attack. Has the mission grown. As you know, the president called this a Counter Terrorism operation, and you were amongst the first to describe it as a war against i. S. I. L. , similar to the war against al qaeda. Martin dempsey suggested the possibilitiy of u. S. Combat troops, the administration said no, but the president said on tuesday, well do what is necessary to take the fight to this terrorist group. How do you interpret that . The mission changed overtime. No doubt about that. The strikes we conducted inside iraq were of a defensive nature. The commander in chief said well be going on offense. In iraq and syria, in that regard the mission cheanged or time as the threat changed. Its not insignificant na many nations are willing to join us. We are talking today about the sunni arab nations that participated in the air operations last night. But there are 40 other nations around the world who have agreed to contribute in some way, in some form or fashion to antii. S. I. L. Efforts. This is becoming a very global effort, and i think that that speaks broadly to the threat that this group poses not just to america and iraqis and syria, but to the aspirations of being a wider, broader challenge to other countries. Retire admiral john kirby, we appreciate you taking the time to join us to discuss all this. Thank you. Thanks for having me. For more, im joined by oliphant. He served two tours in iraq. Was a contractor for the government in afghanistan, he led a team that helped to coordinate pt 2006 verge in iraq. And is a senior fellow at the new america institution. Are you surprised by the attackses against i. S. I. L. Waves of strikes, training camps, communications and command and control facilities . This is what we need to do if we are serious. Again, we are just doing air strikes, and we dont have a plan to throw the Islamic State out of syria, but we do have a plan for the iraqi side of the border. We need to think of the strikes as being in support at least for now of the main effort that is going to occur in iraq. We do have proxies on the levels. Talking about getting serious, how important is it for the ongoing effort, for the sunni arab says to take place in the strikes against sunni arab extremist. Qatar covered in support, the others in kinetic action. Do you think the nations will contribute as we go forward. We hope they do. In terms of military capability, what they bring to the table is mentalingible negligible. In terms of politics, its important to show to the sunni citizens of iraq and syria, that the sunni states are on board in helping to destroy i. S. I. S. , and its not about helping out the Bashar Alassad regime or iraq. Its extremely important optic. Lets break what you said down into two parts. The first is will the sunni support counter claims that this is really a broad coalition, and this is an american western war on islam . I am sure that narrative will always be there. But the appearance of saudi and u. A. E. Planes departments it, making it harder sorry, making it difficult for that to be seen as a plausible claim. The other thing you were talking about is u. S. Could have done this on its i dont know. How much do you think those nations participated. Was it more than symbolic . I wasnt there counting the planes. Im not sure what the percentage was of sortees flown. Had one of these nations pulled out we could have put our planes in to take out the targets they were taking out. Everyone nose the United States air force is a premier air force. It could do it by itself. The participation is so important of these nations and i am sure they were given real targets. They werent just along for the ride. The stricts werent against specific leaders, is that because its too hard to find the leaders, do you think we could decapitate a group hike leader. I dont think. Even if we were to kill the leader tomorrow, abu bakr albaghdadi, and im all for that, that will not severely damn the Islamic State. This is not a cult of abu bakr albaghdadi. They are loyal to the Islamic State, and the caliphate. He proved to be an effective waiting. An act visit in raqqa, an activist of a group that opposing i. S. I. L. , he told al jazeera that people were welcoming the air strikes and said now that we hear there has been civilian casualties, are you concerned that the support for the air strikes might weaken. Critics of the bombing say they were creating more enemies. Thats a danger with any military action. Its particularly on the table with air strikes, and land power also has cole atoral damage as well. Any time you use action, theres a possibility almost a certainty of collateral damn. It can interpret people who knew them or were related to them. If my son, or your daughter or mother were killed, it would them. The shadowy figure, khorasan, we talked about it last week. National deputy security advisor ben rhodes said america believed they were plotting an attack against the United States. What do you think we need to do. Do you think air strikes will be effective in eliminating a group like that. Sounds line this is a smaller more focused group. Air strikes may help. There may come a time when a j sock or the seals or the delta force needs to take action against the group. Its an important reminder that while i. S. I. L. Is the danger. Its by no moons the only one. Its running around there, al nusra, and the smaller groups. That. The u. S. Did not act alone against the Khorasan Group, and well talk more about them coming up. Douglas oliphant, good to have you with us. My pleasure. Now for more stories from around the world. We gee bip in the west bank where Tuesday Morning israeli troops cornered and killed two palestinian me suspected of kidnapping and killing three israeli teens, leading to a 7week war between israel and hamas. They denied involved in the kidnapping and killings and then admitted responsibility last month. Special forces surrounded a village where the two men were holed up. It was condemned as an assassination. Despite the letsoric rhett yoric peace talks continued. A syria plane flue half a mile no israel ci air space and was shot down. The pilot ejected coming down in syrian territory. Next we head to downtown new york where a judge suspended Osama Bin Ladens soninlaw to a lifetime in prison. He was found guilty of trying to kill americans and providing support for terrorists. The most senior Osama Bin Laden to be tried in court, he became the voice of terrorist in recruitment tapes much the defense asked for 15 years sentence, but the judge chose life after he showed no remorse. We end in midtown new york as the United Nations held a climate summit. The oneday event featured activists, current and former World Leaders. President obama touted the american success in cutting pollution were power plants and plenged to reduce the nations 2005 Carbon Emissions by 2020. He acknowledged americas role in dealing with change Christopher Gibson, but said change Christopher Gibson, but said climate change, but said everyone neez to be needs to be involved and is seen as a step before the talks in paris. Coming up, less than 24 hours after air strikes in syria, the terror attack was raised. Should we be worried about an attack at home. What impact will it have on the children already suffering. The head of save the children joins us with two remaining reports. Harmeli aregawi is tracking the top stories on the web. A mastermind behind inflammatory ads is an ipp cityingator, and ill instigator, and ill tell you more. Join the conversation. Hundreds of days in detention. Al jazeera rejects all the charges and demands immediate release. Thousands calling for their freedom. Its a clear violation of their human rights. We have strongly urged the government to release those journalists. Journalism is not a crime. Fears of terrorist retaliation led the fbi and Homeland Security to issue a joint bulletin across the u. S. On tuesday. It warns military action against terrorist groups in syria and iraq could embolden terrorists to attack the u. S. An urgent reason was a serious threat from an al qaeda group. U. S. Officials say the group headed by an Osama Bin Laden operative poses a threat to the u. S. And europe. We believe the Khorasan Group was nearing the execution phase of the attack in europe or the homeland. We know that the khorasan has attempted to recruit we werers to serve westerners to serve as operate ist. Terrorist blow back could turn to saudi arabia. An i. S. I. L. Fighter threatening the saudis. Robert mcfadden joins us now. He worked on the u. S. S. Coal bombing, and is an expert on Transnational Movement and is the Senior Vice President at the sufan group, providing strategic intelligence services. Pleasure to have you with us. You heard that the group may have been planning an american state, and was working with a bomb maker that tried to do the failed underwear bomb, and are talking about different possible bombs to avoid aeroplane detection, including clothes, nonmetallic things that may not be detected by current security. How big a threat to do you think the group was or is. Its the culmination of information getting into the public realm. We were aware that three operatives from al qaeda central had gone into syria. One was killed, he was going to be an envoy. The two in yemen send down raping as part of the team to doing transnational operation. We are calling them the Khorasan Group. That is part of al qaeda centrals mooed us operandi and has been from the beginning until now. As it exits. Attacking the west. Thats what it exists for, to phnomment resolutions within arab gulf countries by going after the enemy of islam, and that is the philosophy. Talking about how dangerous the threat is, its significant what the senior officials said, that the gel sense or indications as to how much of the forward progress of the group is interrupted via the strikes. What do you think. The hope expressed is that it has been interrupted. Its difficult to know that. Well, since the news broke, the first thing that jumps to mind is the intelligence must have been good for a targeted strike like this, and if it is, in fact, from al qaeda, same modus operandi, you can bet it was a small group, because it wasnt there to fight the Bashar Alassad regime. Similar to what became 9 11. Its a team for developing and planning. That plot in an apartment with less than a handful of deputies. They are not out there trying to control territories of i. S. I. L. , it was wherever they are to attack the west. The intelligence or information is very important immediately after, in the period that follows, as to how much was disrupted. Part of the lan is not just i. S. I. L. , but those that sympathise with i. S. I. L. , and those that work with i. S. I. L. , mens that have gone over there and are back in the crates, may have reacted with anger. After any major u. S. Military intervention, theres typically a prudent headsup alert. It makes assistance for law enforce. Security elements and the public to be in a situational awareness, or standing. I have not heard anything about specific intelligence in the group. If they take the lop wolf or small lone wolfs are small groups, whether its this brand of extremism or far right, and they act when the time is right for them. Its not necessarily now. A decade ago it was said we cannot allow failed states tore parts of any country to become law less as they become a sanctuary for terrorists, as we see happening in iraq. Why have we not learnt the lessons, that we cant let the groups grow . Well thats oppression finding by the 9 11 commission, exactly that. Al qaeda groups, querm nation germ nation grew as part of afghanistan. Where you see areas awash in weapons, often conflict, tribal clan against the government. You have areas where the groups flourish. To mind thoi, it never has about though, it never has been nor will be a movement. Almost every situation, syria and iraq they are the result of local conditions. So those kind of incubators are a factor, but for the United States alone to do something about that. All over the world. Its hard to do. Extraordinary. Exactly. A quick question much danger for the sunni arab countries that participated in the attacks. We are talking about the west. They also are certainly threatened. You try to guard against hyperbole. Its close to rackable about how far the coalition is prepared to take the constructive acts. Through diplomacy and tough talk, it appears they realise they have more at stake. They must get in the fight. Important thing with knowing the risk, but its more important that they push back on this thing that eventually will be a threat to their country. Robert mcfadden, great to have you with us. Before the air strikes, i. S. I. L. Had been on a rampage in northern syria, taking dozens of towns and forcing 150,000 to escape the terrorists. For more on what capitol hill and the military operation means for civilians and children, we are joined in new york by carr scro line meals caroline miles, from save the children. Their latest report, education has never been deadlier for syrians, show that schools have been a target during the 3. 5 year civil war. Good to see you. The numbers in the report are stunning. 3,465 schools in syria either destroyed or damaged. Others occupied by who nose what military group. This is a country that has a successful system, and now has the second worst rate in the world. Theres essentially there was 100 school eb roll. It was an area where pretty much every country went to school. You see secondworst, and in maybe of the towns and communities, inside syria, more than 50 of the kids are out of school. And there are refugees, 3 million refugees that fled the country, half children, many out of school as well. You have more than a million refugees, more than a million schoolaged, and many living in communities and countries that cant help them. They dont have the i take itty to put the kids in school. You have 80 of children who are refugees that cant go to school. What are the longterm that. I worry about it from two fronts, one is today, and many children that have been out of school for three or four years. At some point well have to rebuild syria, and the people that will have to rewell it are the young people today. And so imagine a generation that has had their school cut short, and these are the these are the people that will have to rebuild the country. We talk about the generation, and have a campaign talking about nolost generation, thats what we mean, we mean how do we get the kids into school. Part of it is the ones going to school are living in such fear that they cant learn. The psychological impact on children we think about the physical. Children need food and shelter and need those things, but the psychological exact is high. A story that stayed with me when i visited jordan. I went to the youth center in the camp and talked to a 15yearold. He was a star in high school. Top of the class. Had plans to go to university. I said what is your future like now. And he said i have no future. We should be worried when a 15yearold says he has no future. That is beyond schools, its the life in the cams, and we saw it last winter. There is tremendous suffering. There is. What save the children and others do in the camps is we try to you try to make it a little more normal. We have kippeder gartens for children in the camp, schools in the camp and the host communities. One thing that is happening is outside of the refugee camps. Children are having to go to work so when they are not in school, they are about families are depending on income that kids are earning, under the age of 15. They are creating problems for other children. We have problems about Child Marriage and girls as young as 13 forced into marriage, heartbreaking things, with girls that were going to schools, one that wanted to be a doctor, thats not uncommon. No, and what the statistics we have seen on this is that the marriage of those under the age of 15 doubled. And its girls that yes, in some cases their families are surging them to be married. They are worried about Sexual Violence being in danger, and the girls are going into these marriages, because they want to take pressure off their families, thats sad when the married. This military assa

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