Yorkers to be alarmed. The paurpt is a doctor who recently returned from guinea where he treated ebola patients. Craig spencer, admitted to bellevue and placed in isolation. Dr robert glater is an emergency physician. Is there no reason to be alarmed. You heard bill de blasio. Spencer was back in new york, felt sluggish and reported a fever. At this point theres no need for panic. His symptoms began late this morning. What we do know is patients are only when they are symptom attic is when they are infectious and transmit the disease, the virus. You are government as the governor said at the press conference, that it may have been a good thing that he was a doctor, he took precautions. Exactly. This is someone who know, who can identify with the symptoms, he worked in africa and knows what the symptoms are. It was responsible for him to make the calls and the orchestrated response is to be commended. We were prepared for this compared to dallas. He started not feeling great on tuesday. Wednesday night he went to bowl in brooklyn, he may have taken the subway from manhattan to brooklyn, and a taxi back into the city. Is that a concern . At this point i would not be concerned overall. The virus does not live on surfaces for a significant amount of time. Its difficult to get ebola, i want to make it year. This is not an air borne disease, its spread by direct contact. People who are ill, transmitting this. The sicker they are, the more transmissible it is believed to be. He was bowling. You could scrape yourself, sweat into a bowling ball would that worry you . Overall, honestly, no. Im not concerned overall. At this point its an awareness, we should proceed with caution, Contact Trace i would not sound the alarm in an overall manner. His girlfriend has been isolated as a result of all this. That obviously is an important precaution. How prepared do you think new york is. We are prepared. Hospitals have isolation protocols. We have providers. We have p. P. E. Theres no reason for concern. We know to ask for travel history, screening patients and isolating. In a way do you think theres a silver lining. Because we are better prepared and will not see the issues we saw in dallas, and the nurses got the disease. We are aware of this. We know what happened in dallas and we can learn from this. We learn from previous experiences. Its important to protect providers especially. In hospitals and awareness is key. Do you think well see more cases as time goes buy coming back from africa . There could be additional cases. We are prepared, contract case, we have orchestrated exquisite response. Good to have you join us on short notice. My pleasure. Now to new details about the attack in ottawa. Official released closed circuit video of Michael Zehaf bibeau jumping out of a car with a rifle and running to parliament as people rushed to escape. He had shot and killed Corporal Nathan cirillo at the National War Memorial whilst guarding the tomb of the unknown. The house and Senate Tuesday paid tribute to the fallen soldiers. Reporter canadas sergeant at arms, kevin vick ars, who shot and killed the gunmen was hailed a hero, receiving a standard ovation, and we learn about the gunman described as a petty criminal who acted alone, but may have hinted of sneptions with islamic extremists. We have information that suggests an association with some individuals who may have shared his views. Canadian individuals premminged to adopt pledged to adopt security laws. The u. S. Shares the largest border that is crossed by 300,000 people every day. The federal bureau of investigation is now working with canadian authorities on the investigation. We are joined from vancouver, from a former member of canadas Advisory Council on national security, and from washington dc, from robert grenier, an al jazeera contributor. Andre. How vigilant is canada about tracking suspected extremists. This plans was not on man was not on the list of 90 people that the Royal Canadian people were monitoring. The problem canada has is lack of resources. We have counterintelligence agencies, as well as doubling as a spy agency. They do not have enough manpower and people on the ground to watch everybody. Canadian officials are talking about aggressive policing. Do you see that happening. Do you see more resources going into this. What happened yesterday was a wakeup call for all canadians. Even though intellectually they knew there was a threat out there, there were people who wanted to cause harm. Emotionally they couldnt wrap their minds around it. Since yesterday theres a size of exchange, and the willingness of the government to do a lot more, give a lot more authority and power to the police. What does this mean for the u. S. Reports say the shooter travelled here four times in recent years. How good is our intelligence collaboration with canada, and how concerned are you by what andre said, about the lack of resources . I had experiences with the Canadian Service and they are professional and good. They dont have the resources that their cousins across the border do. They are effective with the resources they do have. Theres close cooperation between the two, with regard to intelligence, counterintelligence, and on the federal bureau of investigation security sigh. I would say we have to see all of this in a bit of perspective. We cant expect too much from any service, when you deal with a lone wolf, someone selfradicalized. On whom there was no record or reason to be suspicious. That is something that you argued before that lone wolves are the biggest danger we are facing, that the highest risk is self radicalization or a radicalization in a small group of people, the shooter in canada. Operated as a lone wolf, but had contacts among extremists. Have intelligence agencies been handy capped. Many are arguing, by the Edward Snowden leaks, in being able to go after the lone wolves . Again, its a matter of perspective. With regard to the individual responsible for the terrorist attack on monday, this was an individual with a low profile. He was obviously. You are talking about the one that ran over a soldier. Precisely. Es. However, there are other people that may have online signatures that are not so obvious. The question is are we prepared as societies, whether talking about canadians and americans to make the sacrifices in regards to Civil Liberties to fap the measure of the for example. Im not sure it obvious. Andre, its a question for you, Civil Liberties have been a question. Since the Edward Snowden leaks, and the federal bureau of investigation monitoring mosques. Is that something canadians would accept now. Aggressive policing on the level. Well you know, we had some scandals involving our own electronic intelligence agency. It didnt have the same impact as the case in the United States. The Edward Snowden case. The Canadian Agency is more effective in monitoring people with an electronic signature. Now the debate is how far can they go in curtailing Civil Liberties. Robert, a former colleague, mike moral, the number two, he said he was more concerned about the threat of terrorists coming through the northern border than the southern border. Do you agree . Well i think based on past history, i guess you would have to agree. I dont think we should equate canada with syria at this point. Again, i think the threat that we have seen coming from canada has been limited over the years. That said. When we talk about terrorism, we had a greater issue across the Canadian Border entity the other difficulties with mexico. How concerned are the canadian people after what happened yesterday. How bad a problem do you think you have. Over the years there has been concerns about radicalisation of canadians. We are, you know, a lot more aware of the problem today. There are a lot more people in canada that have become radicalized. Theres the possibility that they could make their way south, as did the shooter on monday. He had gone to the United States. Again, the problem that canada faces is how do you modify Civil Liberties and civil rights to effectively monitor people who are known and people you can identify as participation jihadists. This is a problem. The interesting thing is that what happened on monday is that it brought to all parties in canada the point home that they were at risk. They were the ones locked down in the house of commons, and they could hear the shots and smell the gunpowder. The debate will be a lot more civil and congenial. Robert, the blow back element here, canada recently decided to become an active part of the coalition. Do you think we are there have been a number of these lone wolf small incidents in the west. Do you think we are going to see more . Well, i think that we will see more. You mentioned a couple of minutes ago that perhaps the greatest risk, the greatest threat is from the lone wolf terrorist. We disagree with that. Its difficult for us to defend ourselves against the lone wolf. By and large they are not in the aggregate of a threat. What im concerned about in the fullness of time is more sophisticated planned operations by significant numbers of individuals, where the roots of those plots are oversees and within syria and iraq. Thats what im afraid looking out over the horizon at. Its a pleasure to have you both with us. Thank you. Thank you very much. Turning to the war against i. S. I. L. In iraq and syria. Air strikes in syria killed 464 i. S. I. L. Fighters, and 157 members of the al nusra, according to a British Group that monitors syria. I. S. I. L. Has the upper hand in besieged kobane, despite a weapons drop to help the kurds struggling to hold the city. In iraq, i. S. I. L. Continues a Relentless Assault as it launches a push to get closer to baghdad. The American Public continues to push the american campaign. The majority of respondents dont think the effort will go well, and 30 think the u. S. And allies have a goal in taking actions. We are joined by ambassador christopher hill, serving from 2009 to 2010, and is the dean of the school of universal studies. His memoir is life on the front lines of american democracy. Good to have you here. Lets talk about the new report of how many i. S. I. L. Fighters have been killed. There has been so many numbers about how many fighters they have. Do you think we are putting a department in this. We are talking about 500 or so. As many as 500 are flowing in. I dont think this will be one body count. It needs to be won by pushingies out of iraq or business. The way to do that is though coalitions, and that is with air strikes and ground forces. And that has been tough to marry up. You have an iraqi army that is having trouble, and a peshawar, the Kurdish Forces having problems. It is, as Many American officials are saying, its a longterm process, it will not end soon. Lets talk about the coalition, the relationship are with the turks, a key part of what we do in the area, given the border with syria and iraq, the turks waffle about how they are going to help. It sounds as if u. S. Officials are getting frustrated. No question. Historically the relationship between the u. S. And turkey seems to be a casualty. The turks have not been helpful on kobane, and to hear the turkish prime minister, its as if he wants to make a deal well do this if you promise to do that. Thats not the nature of the alliance. Is the issue hes seeing the kurds with whom hes had issues, there has been longterm rebellion, its been peaceful over the past couple of years, because of negotiations. Does he see the kurds as a bigger threat. I think thats part of it. Theres another aspect of it as well. He is worried that to get directly involved is to invite i. S. I. L. Attacks in turkey itself. Many turks are worried about president recep Tayyip Erdogans leadership in terms of getting turkey too much involved in an arab area. So they would see further efforts in a place like kobane as a place like the turks leading his country into areas where they dont want to be. This is a tough issue for them. They were happy that the u. S. Is dropping arms. Even that he wasnt terribly happy about. Lets talk about the other thing you brought up, if we are going to make successors, the issue of ground force. There are reports that the whole moderate syrian rebel side of things may not work out as well as we thought. They may only be able to be used whatever training we do will be defensive. Are we back to what president obama said, that it was a fantasy to talk about the syrian moderates. We heard from the white house the idea that well train them for defensive purposes. Those people advocated the train the moderates. Its up to them to show us how it will work. They use it as a slogan, and move on to the next issue. President obama had deep miss givings and wellfounded deep misgivings about the idea of harming moderates. What syria needs is a blueprint for the future. It needs to say more than lets have provisional elections and government, and provisional constitution. What syrians want to know, the jews, the christians the kurd, the sunnis, they want to know what is the future for the country, its not about majority rule, that is coming. The problem if syria is how to protect the minorities. I want to bring up some of the basics in your book. You were frustrated with the administration, and how it functions. We saw the former defense secretary come out and criticize the ebola administration for the way they handled iraq and the way they pulled out. Was there a sense that there was no desire from the administration to stay engaged in iraq. Staying engaged needs the iraqis to agree we stay engageled. That was not the case. It wasnt just maliki, all the Political Parties had misgivings about having u. S. Troops remaining there. I think washington was in too much of a hurry to get out of iraq. What about what panetta said. He pretty much said it was more on the United States side than the iraqi side. I would beg to disagree. The iraqis tell you if you talk to individual ricky politicians iraqi politicians, they say they want to keep troops there. Im not sure this is matter of the u. S. I think the iraqis, after years of u. S. Occupation, they didnt want to have foreign troops on the ground. I think cama understood that and others understood that as well. Good to have you here, look forward to have you back. The book is outpost, life on the front lines of america diplomacy, a memoir prz. As america tries to prevent ebola, do we need to worry about small pox, eradicated decades ago a russian spy plain in an n. A. T. O. Companys air space. Fighting in ukraine. What are they up to. And harmeli aregawi is tracking the top stories on the web. College campus on edge. Threats of a mass shooting. The details coming up while you are watching, let us know what you think. Join the conversation on twitter and on the facebook page. The Ebola Outbreak revised fears that a scourge could we revised as a terror weapon, small pox killed 300 million in the 20th century, before a worldwide vaccination woke them out. The last naturally recorded case of small pox was recorded in somalia in 1977. The virus lives in two labs, one in russia, and the other at the center for Disease Control in atlanta, and lurks on the internet lurks on the internet. The sequence was stored on a computer in 90s, and can be found online. Im joined by carl olson, an expert who advised Homeland Security, fbi and other agencies on how to prepare for and responds to terrorism. Good to have you with us. According to an opinion piece in the new york times, a wellequipped biotechnology ad may be able to replicate the small pox virus, creating an artificial virus. A modest lab might be able to do that before too long. Do you see that as realistic . The magic word there is mite. The fat that the gooep om exists and we have moved so far so fast in genetic engineering and science, we can literally set a printer to work, putting together the coding to create what is the molecule. That is a remarkable achievement. What we talk about small pox or synthetic hormones. Being able to go from printing the molecule to inserting it into a cell and having an active virus, i think the article was oversimplistic on that. Where we are today is dramatically far from where we were yesterday, and where well be tomorrow will be further down the track. For people that dont remember, before its eradication, small pox killed 30 of victims, some described as the most efficient killer of humans, im old enough to remember the fear of the disease. Theres no cure. We saw the panic caused, and we know al qaeda was interested in small pox. It could be an effective terror weapon if it could be revived. The reason small pox we eradicated small pox because we developed a strategy for vaccination of the population. It is very effective. We stamped the disease out by making it impossible for it to continue to exist in the human population. The problem is, as you said, we eradicated small pox globally about 30 years ago. In the ensuing 30 years, we have not kept up the global vaccination programme. We have not continued to follow up with boosters as necessary. Today we have a population. The people vaccinated 30, 40, 50 years ago, and think that they are safe against small pox. Their security against the disease, the immunization has probably lapsed to some degree. So you have got a population out there that would probably be susceptible to small pox. Not the way we were 100 years ago, but nonetheless theres a danger. Not unbeatable, but theres a danger. People like me probably want residual protection. Who nose how much. The u. S. Has a stockpile of vaccines to roll out. We do. And we can manufacture more. But we dont have a large stockpile. The reality is we would probably have to really fire it up if we were going to try to do a Global Campaign or start at one end of the country and work to the other. Again, there is small pox vaccine, we know how to make it. We have the technology, it works. People have been letting it slide. Theres a lot of people out there that probably need it. T