The u. S. The great satan in others. Whats irans next move . Its the inside story. He inside story. Welcome to our new time slot. Week nights at 6 00 30 eastern time. Tonight on the program, whats irans next move . Washingtons relationship with the government in tehran has been so damaged for so long that its a little hard to figure out whats changed by the long, hard bargaining that finally germany and iran. Irans population is huge. Its oil reserves formidable. The Regional Power astrong. Theres so much unfinished burning. Everything is going to get fixed now. The nuke deal is a big step. Republicans in the house held a vote late last week on a measure to aprof the iran deal. It was an effort to put themselves on the record against the agreement and put mrilt clay as a rule politically vulnerable democrats on the spot. 25 democrats sided with them but beyond politics the result means little. The day before, democrats in the senate blocked a vote on a measure that would have rejected the agreement. So barring a dramatic and unforeseen reversal, the house measure is going nowhere and the deal will stand. In a statement, president obama said we must implement and verify this deal so iran cannot create a Nuclear Weapon in pursuit of a safer and more hopeful world. The iran deal has been a political football and last weeks vote came ahead of an intense lobbying effort. The white house launching a public and private campaign to sway waivering members of congress. While opponents of the deal including the pro Israel Lobbying Group apac mounted a multimillion dollars effort to fuel congress. More comments from irans Supreme Leader. The aitolla predicted the demise of israel saying they will not see the end of these 25 years. The israeli Prime Minister will meet the president in washington in early november. As mr. Obamas spokesman said the u. S. Has no illusions about irans behavior our concerns have not waned and our determination to confront and work with the International Community to try to confront irans support for terrorism has only ramped up in if recent months and years. A new pugh poll shows public support for the deal is weakening. 33 of those asked approved of the agreement while 45 disapproved. Now the Approval Rating has fallen 12 points. 49 disapprove. Frozen assets being unfrozen in return for irans agreement to cut back on refining nuclear materials. The tehran supported baghdad government is looking to iran for help in defeating isil while at the same time syria is backing al assad is backing his struggle to stay in damascus. Is it just an isolated projacketed or the beginning of a new willingness to do business with other powers . Were joined by the policy director at the iranian american council, and a veteran reporter and author of the lonely war. One womans account for the struggle for modern iran. And retired colonel patrick lang at the u. S. Defense intelligence agency. Jamal, can this deal between the permanent five members of the Security Council including the u. S. , germany, the eu, and iran act as the predicate to something, anything . Well, absolutely. It could. It depends on how the sides play their hand. What the deal did was it ended 35 years of of the ability to resolve issues. Theres been an ebb and flow of outreach on both sides. We have not seen something that produced a final agreement and the fact that we have u. S. And iran signed on the dotted line for this agreement, its an open door. The challenge now is does this bring new opportunities to engage on some of these other issues. The two sides know they have a lot in common and they have a lot of disagreements but the next few months and next few years are going to decide will this be tactical or strategic where they take the Political Capital generated in this. One vote for cautious optimism i think eye ran is a divided country between the moderates who represented the Nuclear Negotiators led by the president who is more moderate. And iranian hard liners and irans Supreme Leader who has the final word on state matters. This is a huge compromise for the Supreme Leader to allow iranian moderates. And definitely he supported the talks to endorse the deal but on friday we heard him talk about the future and it was very clear. He said very clearly that the talks were only limited to the Nuclear Issue and iranians were not going to go beyond that. The whole late period before the deal was finally done. Rhuhani would say one thing read as accommodating and the other would to anticipate then the Supreme Leader would come down hard and move just in the opposite direction. Where does that leave you . I think thats the challenge now. The challenge is to see how far irans Supreme Leader is going to allow the moderates to specifically the foreign manslaughter and the president to collaborate with their western counterparts, to implement the deal. Because as you said, the deal was a huge thing. Definite a victory for diplomacy. Now we have a new era before us and that is how this deal is going to be implemented. Youve been a student of this part of the world for a long time. What do you make of it all . I think we have to remember about it that he is in fact the real head of the government. In fact, the president of the Islamic Republic and his cabinet like that are all basically the creatures of it because if they had not been allowed to run for office and be elected, they would not have had any opportunity to do that. We have to respect the fact that the man still is a poll situation. Hes not reelected. He has to balance the various blocks of the country. The business groups and the crazies. The young people who want to have a wider life. Other senior clerics. Hes shown himself willing to see the limits of keeping the revolution alive and keeping the pressure down internally so they dont have an explosion like they almost had in 2009. What is that a public pantomine for the world . There are definitely real splits in iranian society. Its seen as a contest for his attention. Someone like the king of morocco, the ruler of the faithful needs to balance all these things but if you look at the president s hes allowed to take to power, he found he was too liberal. You cannot skirge people into paradise. I think you can see that theyll be willing to experiment as to what works and what does not. It can raise as many questions and warm feelings towards the United States and you see burning effigies and antiamerican demonstrations. Quickly contradicted or squashed by clerical leaders. Are there different versions of the future imagined by irans leaders . Irans next move, its the inside story. Inside story. Theres a line of police advancing toward the crowd here. Ferguson city under siege. It isnt easy to talk openly on this base. And americas war workers. Its human trafficking. Watch these and other episodes online now at aljazeera. Com faultlines. Irans clerical leaders never miss an opportunity to denigrate and threaten israel. Whats the difference . In world view, approach, tone, between the religious leaders, the revolutionary constitution in charm and the elected leaders and Civil Servants who lead the machinery of state. Long Time MilitaryIntelligence Officer pat lang is still with me along with others. We were talking about this earlier but it happens all the time. Daylight between different parts of iranian society. And if in the United States you take some encouragement from that, you dismiss as naive. It is. Thats true. You see the same dicotemy in iranian politics. In iran its a situation different than the situation in the states. In iran, youre dealing with a Supreme Leader as a guardian of the revolution and certain values and one of them is being antiu. S. , antiisrael. And the majority of the people dont see that. They want to see their country changed. They want to see their country join the International Community. And become part of a bigger global culture. And so that dichotemy becomes more illustrated. The ayatolla wants to retain spremcy in the system. Satisfying their aspiration aspirations. They run on a consensus that makes people if they dont like power you dont have a result and i think he functions that way. Hes accustomed to functioning with the system of consensus in Islamic Religious science. So i think he tries to balance that. But it doesnt mean hes intent on becoming a friend of the United States. He has a long snding feeling that really bad people are living under a bad system. But i think theres a possibility. First the ending with the europeans and informsment in the chinese maybe. To have people move more toward the west and theres the fact that we and iranians are in fact cobelligerents against the islamic state. The iranians have been very useful in iraq and syria along with their allies. Rerefuse to we refuse to acknowledge that but i think we will. Is that the foundation. Were on the same side in iraq. Does that open the possibilities . Yeah. Of course it does. If we look at the last 15 years of u. S. Involvement in the region, the United States took out irans two biggest enemies in afghanistan and iraq. We happen to be on the same side as iran when it came to the first two part offense those invasions. We have not been able to engage since then because of various geo political and domestic political constraints. But this does present an opening and the fact that we now have this deal that can enable greater connections between not just at a diplomatic level but between iranians and the American People also presents openings because as we know, you know, the current president of iran was elected. It wasnt fair but it was a Competition Among the candidates and he was the last choice of the Supreme Leader but the iranian people didnt listen to people who said dont vote and thats what unstuck this standoff and enabled iran to actually enter these negotiations. If iran abides by its ashaunsashaun assurances in the Nuclear Proliferation deal, if the relentless antiamerican rhetoric quiets down, the sanctions in place since the hostage crisis and the break in diplomatic relations will still be in place when an American Flag flies over an embassy in havana, is it too soon to ask if a chance exists for a better relationship between iraq and iran. Its the inside story. He inside story. There are many, many pending issues between the United States and iran after decades of hostility between the two governments as we look at the state of play between the two countries after the nuclear deal, well end this conversation about the prospects for if not normal relations at least more functional relations between the United States and what is after all a major player in west asia and the middle east. Pat, whats doable . Whats plausible if we can evolve a working relationship here . Well, as we remember saying, i think we have to have a practical working relationship in the military sphere. Thats necessary. And there are certain issues that have to be cleared up. Theres the u. S. And Israeli Intelligence communities have been of the opinion of some time that iranians stopped work on a weapon in 203. Thats an open issue. Now that we have this deal and continuation of cooperation of that deal is dependent on what their real posture is, we should be able to clear that up. The answer to the question is whether or not theyve really had an ongoing real Weapons Program for some time. Its a major feature of how americans think of the threat to israel and the United States. It has to be cleared up. Important not only for the United States but for a main ally. Absolutely. Whats doable here . Can we, the United States, end up at least with a functional relationship if not full diplomatic ties. Whats achievable may be low level hanging fruit. Maybe theres some, you know, track two and scientific engagement and cultural exchanges that we start out with to begin to warm the relationship and build this trust that apparently was not built for the nuclear deal but were talking on the sidelines of nuclear negotiations. But there are also big things that need to be addressed. The situation in syria that has not been able to be resolved to a political solution in no small part because iran has not been allowed to be at the table because the United States allies in saudi arabia doesnt want iran to be part of those talks. We should now move beyond that and say were prepared and willing to engage with iran on all issues of interest to us regardless of what our allies are saying we can and cannot do. It doesnt seem like the domestic situation will allow for that though. If president obama moves towa s towards hes struck done. American that might be possible. But i think hes capable of doing that starting with collaborating with with iran and the foreign minute city and demanding that they abide by their International Obligations to implement the deal now and start collaborating on issues over syria, other issues in the region. But doesnt american demand have any bearing on whether or not iran plays by the rules . Iranians can do a lot in these countries. First of all, theyre performing their part of the deal regarding the Nuclear Issue. Thats going to abolish some of the mistrust that exists towards iranians and secondly theyre also seeking their also strategic threat because theyre so close to iranian borders now. Make sure that the isis is pushed back and also in in yemen iran can play a role. Irans forfor the houthis is becoming quite dangerous now so there are other areas that they can collaborate and this is something that the majority of iranian people have been hoping that the Nuclear Talks would lead to. Pat lang mentioned syria. And yemen. Those are places where it would be irreconcilable. I dont think thats true because our major opponent in the middle east and maybe eventually in the world is not iran. Its or any group of shiite. Its really in my opinion the sun sunni jihadi movements and they continue to receive sub terrainen support from people in the guntersville. Preponderate obama has shown a its very clear that being more cooperative with iran these places would be our interest. Author of the lonely war, and jamal abdi. Thanks to you all for joining us on todays program. At our new time. Ill be back in a minute with a final thought on pending persian problems. Stay with us. Its inside story. Nside story. I kept trying to make him not