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ALJAZAM News September 23, 2013

Their assets, the court contraction down on the Muslim Brotherhood. Im barbara sera in london. Angela merkel starts a new term but insists germanys Monetary Policy wont change. Kenyan are military is continuing into the night, at least 63 people including three fighters according to the kenyan are government. The Group Al Shabaab carried out the attack. The final stage to a siege hathat has cost so many lives. Stretched to a break point, the military engaged in an operation they say saved lives. Then this. Persistent heavy gun fire, the thick pall of smoke has been there for an hour or more and this does look like the final stages about the no ones exactly sure exactly what the situation is. The interior ministry say the al shabaab is responsible for this, it detonated when. Has never been higher. And we want to say that we will take the war to the criminals door steps. This is our country. We are in control of the security situation and kenyans should be should take comfort that the country is in our hands. He also said, ten soldiers were injured during this stage of the operation and two of the gunmen were killed. It stills raimtion unclear on whats remains unclear on whats happened to the other gunmen. Ever since the attack happened, images have been slowlily filtering out. These shoppers at a supermarket were attempting to find cover over indiscriminate gun fire. They shouted to each other, some made a run to exits. Here a mother and child lay prone on the floor. Apparently trying to pretend theyd been killed. No one knew whether the figure on the other side of the screen was a shopper or a gunman. In another part of the mall, police moved from store to store constantly vigilant. They checked some out, whether they were gunmen. Such was the level of confusion. Security members were trying to hunt down gunmen while getting people safety. This led to shock permeating throughout this city. The black smoke of a deadly attack thick in the air. Andrew simmons al jazeera nairobi. Well weve heard from the kenyan government all day today. Lets hear from al shabaab. Abu omar, thank you very much for talking to us here on al jazeera. Now, the kenyan government says its in full control of the situation at Westgate Mall. The security says they have killed three of your men. What is your situation as it stands right now . I begin, on this visit the enemy, to permission has been given to those leaders who are in control who have been oppressed, able to give them victory. As the situation stands now its the third day, kenyan government seized control of the situation on the ground, the kenyan forces have attempted new occupation to storm the building, they were supported by their jewish u. S. And britain, touched with the mujahadeen, and so they believed to be jewish and operations are still ongoing, which have been on the kenyan part by jewish u. S. And british forces. But im concerned to you now, control of the situation on the ground, and the kenyan public, these attacks for the rest of their lives if they fail to meet our forces from our country. Mr. Omar you say youve killed 13 of the Kenyan Security forces. They say that three of your men have been killed. How many of your people are still inside the Westgate Mall, how many are still alive . The mugahadeen how many of them . I cannot tell you how many there are due to the ongoing operation. All right. You said you will not negotiate with the kenyan government. Said there would be no demand so what exactly are you trying to achieve through this attack at the Westgate Mall, whats your purpose, whats the mission here . Okay that is quite simple. Certainly we do not want any negotiations with the kenyan government, as weve made that quite clear. But the kenyan public needs to understand perfectly, we did not mobilize forces against the kenyan government, we did not invade their territory, or encroach upon property and homes, Shopping Malls. In fact, kenyan people were until they invaded our country. They were allowed to be subjugated, International Community the proxy statement, is there any actions of the kenyan government when they invaded somalia they refugee camps so why is this bull al shabaab has been killing somalis and muslims and weve heard reports inside the Westgate Mall, your people separated kenyans from nonkenyans, why did you do that . This war, im concerned that the mujahadeen, the muslims apart from the attack and that was done in order to safeguard welt and prosecute in violable, we take place the lines but sir al shabaab has guild thousands of muslims in somalia right now about when you say youre trying not to target muslims when you have done so for so many years in somalia. That is your interpretation, which im not are you denying that you have killed muslims and somalis in the past . What im telling you is we have done everything practically possible not to of this attack and quite clear, we are fighting to defend the rights of muslims, rather than gang up on all the muslims or killing muslims. So our job is to protect islam, protect the muslims, in that way of killing muslims, in this main attack we having supplied the operation as i just told you, inside the mall and they told us that no muslim was killed and they tried to. No muslims have been killed in this attack you say but certain thousands of muslims have died in somalia over the years. Let me just ask you. Weve heard reports of foreign fighters involved in this attack at the Westgate Mall can you confirm this . I can neither confirm nor deny this, the mujahazeen. We have heard from warning that al qaeda would be going after soft targets from now on. Is this what this attack is . Al qaeda are our leaders, they are our mentors, theyre our leaders and they are are operating all if in a conflict against International Christians and so the as muslims this is what, in muslim we are in this altogether. Who is commanding this attack in nairobi, is al qaeda giving you orders . Al shabaab, what is the difference is are you taking orders from al qaeda right now . Sorry . Are you taking orders from al qaeda . Our leaders will take orders from our leaders, they are our leaders our tbroarlts and we have every right to listen to their guidance, the military instructions, and as they instruct we listen and we obey. All right well thank you very much for speaking to us, mr. Omar, aba omar, a leader from mogadishu. Joining us here in the studio on this al jazeera news hour is martin readoon, a former chief of the fbi, we have heard from al shabaab, we have all made of shabaab what, do you make of what you heard . They said they are in control of the situation, the kenyan government say no they are in control. What is it as you say . First of all the rhetoric, basing their complaints in this case about the kenyan government fighting against the somalis in somalia. His claim that they control the situation i think watching the news the last three days and the witness he or officials who have been interviewed i would say that the kenyan government has control of that situation. Nobody is getting in or out of the mall unless they want. And as the fire is put down, there is they seem to be moving, closing that net more and more. What we also got from hearing from them is that they are clearly determined theyre not making any demands, not negotiating whatsoever. This cost very bloody until the end. It appears it will. At this point there are no surviving attackers that have been taken into custody. You had the three or so that have been killed. So you could have survivors. But probably not by their own choice. Wounded they go down and theyre taken into custody. So how then do the Kenyan Security forces go about resolving this standoff without of course putting the lives of the remaining hostages, we dont know how many hostages are left in the building of course at risk, while at the same time flushing out these rebels . They will continue what theyve been doing all day, slow methodology movement closing in that net. And again as you said, we dont know right now if there are hostages in there. It might take how long do you think . I mean they said earlier that the operation is almost over but it doesnt look like it. Could we be in for another few hours another day or two even, perhaps . How long do these types of situations last . The timing is controlled by the fire. As long as that fire is burning, and there is smoke and fire above the building . Fire in the building. With the smoke and the toxic fumtiofumes in there theres nog that the Security Forces could do. Do you see this how do you view this attack by al shabaab, very sophisticated, she audacious. What about the movement, you heard from the commander that they said they are now allied into al qaeda. Morphing into something bigger, badder if you will . It was a complicated operation, i think that it shows that they were able to rebound after theyve been pounded hardly or heavily for the last two years by kenyan or u. S. Forces or African Union u. S. Forces, they have rebounded or this is their biggest operation sings uganda. Since uganda. They have shown they can put a cell in there, simultaneous entry from multiple locations in that mall. Theyre there and theyre a force to reckon with for now. And for now, it will be interesting and of course well keep an eye on the situation and see how the standoff ends in nairobi. Well have more on this siege during this news hour. Theres plenty on the website. On the meantime now, more news. Muslim brotherhood says it will appeal a ruling by the egyptian court. Allows anyone taking part in protests organized by the Muslim Brotherhood. But Egyptian Government says it wont stop, when Mohamed Morsi was overthrown. More from our correspondent in cairo. One of the most significant impacts will be on protests and demonstrations. Durations, any rallies where there are slogans or where the Muslim Brotherhood is directly behind the organization of that demonstration. However, over the last few weeks and months what weve seen ask most of the demonstrations in egypt have been organized by this broader umbrella group, the anticoup alliance, the Muslim Brotherhood is part of this group. However these types of demonstrations by the anticoup alliance will be able to continue. Essentially brotherhood will be allowed to continue its activities under the auspices of the bigger group, real estate offices, suspending of bank accounts, charity work. Remembering that many of the Senior Leaders of the group have already had their assets frozen in Previous Court cases. So its certainly going to have an impact on the group. Still ahead on the news hour, signs of authority. Iran will discuss its Nuclear Aspirations on the sidelines of the u. N. Generallably. Plus. Workers hold a duration. And an unscheduled lift proves costly for a nascar driver. More later. Illegalities bring you some news from europe now. Germanys chancellor Angela Merkel fresh from winning a third term has contacted her social democrat opponent for coalition talks. The results for the other party means she will need a new coalition partner. Her conservative cvu party won 45. 4 of the vote, its best result in 43 years. Meanwhile, merkels Coalition Allies the free democrats had a terrible night. They failed to win even the 5 of votes that are needed to be represented in parliament. Greens and reds took more than 8 of the vote. On sunday they integrated a win bigger than anyone imagined but not big enough to govern alone. So on monday it was back to work to find a coalition partner. We are of course open for talks. And i have already had initial contact with the sbd chairman who said the sbd must first hold a meeting of its leaders on friday. The spd or social democrats, Angela Merkels opponents on the center left, with chancellor merkels party four years ago and will bargain hard this time for a better deal. The sbd is not standing in line or applying. After ms. Merkel ruined her former coalition partner, to line up now so to speak as a success is not our intention, so were going into the talks very calmly and will agree with sbd representatives at the party friday. Neither is throwing itself into the arrangement. A win by Angela Merkel guarantees her four more years in that building, the chancellors office. The talks will be tough possibly lasting many weeks. She wont want to give away any more Political Capital than she has to. They will want as much as they can get. In europe, mrs. Merkel will find her win a powerful endorsement for a single currents. Alternative for germany narrowly missed making it into plairnlt t thiplacement parliament. The christians democrats will have to explain why it makes sense not only politically and historically but also economically to support greece and portugal and give more money to europe. Shes proven merself to be one of europes most resill yant leaders. The assumption is that Angela Merkel will emerge dominant but it will be several weeks before that will be said with certain certainty. Al jazeera berlin. Three Police Officers have been removed if their post as the police force starts an inquiry of links to the far right golden dawn party. The murder of a musician from a member of golden dawn. Suggests the police have been assisting golden dawn in criminal activity. Another seven have been suspended pending an internal Affairs Investigation in which prosecutors will be present to determine whether and to what extent greek Police Officers, individuals, had dealings with golden dawn operatives and functionaries, and to what extent had may have been systemic. They have over the last year since golden dawn entered parliament, variation allegation he in the press that there was an informal collaboration between police units and golden dawn functionaries, particularly when it came to labor rallies which were heffary left wing, indicating that perhaps golden dawn which was far right, took part in suppressing actions of the left wing labor groups. But these now top brass in the police force have been suspended following police investigation. Ill have more in the news hour, now go back to folly in doha. Thank you, 30 other people were injured. In syria rebels say theyve made gains in southern aleppo. In eastern hamma province 16 people died when police dropped a bomb on a residential area. Leader of hezbollah has denied receiving chemical weapons from the syrian regime. That shipment of chemical weapons have been are delivered but nazralla says hes against the use of chemical weapons for religious reasons. Top five leaders are to meet rawfnian leaders to discuss restarting of nuclear talks. Hasan rouhani has urged negotiations go ahead. James base is at the United Nations in new york. Whats come out of the meeting with Katherine Ashton today . Very, very Important Developments i think. The iranian president Hassan Rouhani is in his way to new york, still in the air. But his foreign minister has been having initial meetings with western leaders, with the Eastern European leaders, further meetings in geneva, but i think the most Important Development is that meeting thats going to take place in new york here on thursday. Is because around the table yes, you have that p5 plus one, the permanent members of the Security Council and germany meeting with iran. Among those seven Foreign Ministers though, were getting the news that the u. S. Will be sending the secretary of state john kerry, the Iranian Foreign minister and his u. S. Counterpart. That is the miest meeting from anyone in iran and the United States for 40 years, a very, very Important Development. Quite significant indeed. So World Leaders will be in new york all week. And the crisis is atop the agenda. What can we expect on that . Well, this is the third year that theyve met while war has been raging in syria. The situation is getting worse and worse. This time last year the official death toll stood at 20,000. The potential death toll and everybody believes that undercounts is around 100,000. Earlier i spoke to the president of oxfam america. The potential for a widening crisis throughout the are region, the pleerdz must realize theres an the leaders must realize that theres really importance that we head this week towards trying to lay the pathway for durable peace, think about chemical weapons and arms embargo and cease fires. There with will be more talk about chemical weapons, pushing through that deal between russians and the u. S. In geneva, also efforts to try to get both sides around the able to again in geneva over the coming days. Thank you james. Still ahead on the news hour, devastation after typhoon usagi makes land fall. The toughest race in u. S. History, back after the break. Welcome back. Watching the news hour on al jazeera. Kenyan Security Forces are still battling for control of the Westgate Shopping Center in nairobi, operations continue for a Third Straight night. Al shabaab told al jazeera it attacked the Shopping Center because of kenyas military involvement in somalia, it is not open to any negotiations with the kenyan government. And top

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