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ALJAZAM News August 14, 2014

Theyve the police told us we were in a safe spot. But a short time later, the Police Officers went down the main street and people were running towards us and we heard the multiple bangs, flashes, bullets going off and bullets and flood lights flooding the neighbourhoods, and helicopters overhead shining a spotlight on where some of the people were dispersing too. All right. Lets go back and start from earlier today. What was the show of force on the street when it came to the police . Well, it was similar to what we have seen the last two nights. And as you know, things were the worst it seemed on sunday night as looting began, as people began to cause damage, light fires, and there was a little less of that, there was the same force, but over the day today we have seen a large number of Police Officers from other municipality, militarytype vehicles and a lot of tactical officers around the area. From what we understand from people there in the middle of ferguson, it was largely peaceful. There were moments when things were heated. People would yell and scream. Generally speaking there was no show of force or violence or any standoff nature. Once it started to get dark, as we tried to get closer in, we were told we were not allowed to go further, and everyone was pushed back, including residents. Traffic was allowed into the area. As the night progressed, there was a sense that things were getting more tense, and clearly as they began dispersing in the crowds, the show of force was stronger. How would you compare the protests over the last couple of nights to this one . I think tonight, perhaps because we were closer, we were there last night. It didnt seem this bad. We heard that tear gas was suicide, but it seemed like we heard a lot of baption, warnings there was warnings given to people to get out of the area. It seemed like today after the police chief made the request to have people stop protesting once it got dark, that that was something they could seriously, and they were trying to disperse the crowd as quickly as possible without having them in the area later into the night. We heard patricia vines, an elected official patricia, do you describe this as a larger show of farce than you had seen the past couple of nights . This, yes, yes. Its yes. I did see the tear gas occurring last night. But i think this was this continues to escalate. I saw the first as well. This seems to be a whole lot more. I dont know if they are using different techniques. They used a sound, to try to irritate you. This is the first time i hseen them trying to use that. They put it on, it didnt seem to work as it did so they went to the other means. This started with the shooting, a Police Shooting of 18yearold michael brown, an unarmed young man, shot by police. We hear today that the st. Louis county Prosecutor Says that the police will interview or the prosecutor will interview a ferguson man there at the shooting, and we are told there may be a grand jury called. What else needs to happen in your opinion, patricia . We want to make sure that the investigation is fair and thorough. He needs to be charged. This was coldblooded murder. This was not justified. You cannot justify shooting an unarmed 18yearold in the head. This was coldblooded murder. He needs to be charged as such. You were out there sorry. The police need to look at their techniques and work on relations within the africanamerican community, working on police brutality. Police are tired of it. Thats what they are seeing. Can you give us a sense of the size of the crowd gathered tonight. Were you in the middle and could you see . Yes, yes, yes. It was this was a large gathering of a crowd. And earlier when things were good people were out playing gospel music, there was praying going on. I dont know im not engaging how many people im not good at gauging how many people come out to something. I think it was well over i dont know, maybe 300 people, maybe more than that. I dont know, im not good at that. It was a nice crowd. Patricia and Ashar Quraishi stand by. Jonathan betz is here to put it in complex. Something that comes up is whether the citys Police Department is diverse. Many worry that they target minorities, keep in mind the city is largely africanamerican. Yet almost every Police Officer is white, and the citys police chief admits the force should be more diverse. Reporter in a st louis suburb that is over twothirds black, the Police Department is overwhelmingly white, an imbalance that has many asking whether the force reflects the people served, an issue not lost on the police chief. Ive been trying to increase the deversity of the Department Since i got here. Reporter that was four years ago. Two African American Police Officers were promoted since then. A first for the area. All but three of the forces 53 officers are whitement the mayor told John Seigenthaler from al jazeera that they have a hard time finaling africanmerge recruits. African american officers its hard to get africanamericans that want to be in the police force. In American Police forces blacks are better represented on police forces. The bureau of justice says it makes up 17 of big city Police Departments. In small cities, where the population is under 25,000, africanamericans account for 6 of Law Enforcement. Many of the areas are less diverse, and the police admit it is a problem. Race relations is a top priority right now. Now, black recruits were more than twice as lightly as whites to list negative perceptions among family and friends for a reason not to join a force. Its a concern in ferguson, especially as 86 of traffic stops in ferguson are against black drivers. Jonathan betz, thank you. Joining us from washington is journalist and social activist jeff johnson. Welcome. What is your reaction to what you are seeing tonight . I think many of us that have been watching for the last few days could have answered that it was going to escamate to this escalate to this level. We sawmill tarized levels over the city. Theres a lack of productive relationship between the Police Department, city leadership and the citizens of that community. Ju. A pose that to the juxtapose that to the fact you have citizens who are angry. When leadership talks to them they tell them not to be angry or allow their anger to erupt into disruptive behaviour. I think we have to consistently make sure that we are differentiating between the looting that we saw going on a few nights ago, and the unrest that we see over the last two nights. They are different. We have to delineate between the two. The frustration and antagonism between citizens and the police is what is causing this to happen. I was texting a few people on the ground, and literally one of the young women is trying to work with young people, said its chaos, that there are people running towards the plegs, because they think Police Station because they think its safer there than in the cannes field area where a lot of unrest is happening. Until you get to a place where theres communication, not just between high level leaders, but the folks on the ground and the Police Department. Well see this level of antagonism and unrest. I want to bring in david jones, hes been in Law Enforcement for the past two decades, is the black representative in america. Welcome. What is your response to what is going on with the police tonight in ferguson . This shows that institutional policing as it refers to communities of colour is broken. It needs oversight. Not just in this city, but in other cities. How should the police respond. We heard an elected official say there was too much show of force for the last couple of days. People with riot gear, guns on top of Police Vehicles. Do the Police Department need to have the show of force to stop the shooting. If theres a march, and from what i have heard on the news, they were marching peacefully. Why would you have army tanks and snipper rifles for people trying to march and protest an injustice. That type of force insights the community. It shows that they are not sensitive to the needs of the community and a death of a young man. You know, there were reports that the molotov contacts were thrown at police, and that that was one of the things that started this tonight. As one said earlier this evening, you know, its the chicken and the egg. How do you know. The question is how do you calm the situation . Im not sure im not sure if theres a chicken. So thats right. We have not seen evidence that molotov cocktails were thrown, we see evidence of tear gas, of smoke bombs. I think we have to be careful now with some of the reports coming out from the ground, making sure we can corroborate them before us in the media, particularly, begin to spread them as fact. I have heard today a police chief that is now saying that a Police Officer that they still have not given the identity, and hes talking about he sustained injuries during the interaction when that has not been said the first three days of the conflict. So to get back to your question of how do we begin to calm this. Number one, you have to show the community a level of trust and transparency. The only way you do that is by number one, making known who the Police Officer is. We can do that without putting them in harms way. We have the ability to put him in protective custody and move him out of the city. If you want him to be in custody and are arresting him for murder or for some other crime, you have the ability to do that and keep him safe. The longer you deny the family and the community of who committed the murder, the more youll have unrest. Let me push back on that. Does that justify looting, pushing down buildings. Again we have to delineate. I dont think looting is right under any circumstance. When you have a show of force that this Police Department has had in ferguson, and i think the level of antagonism. I heard reports on the ground of antagonism from the police. As the other guest mentioned when you have tanks, when you have full armor riot gear, when you have a third night in a row of tear gas, you are heightening the level of frustration of an already frustrated group of individuals, that at this point believe that if they dont begin to riot, they wont get justice. If i can, we saw, with the Trayvon Martin situation, there was no arrest, violence, looting, no rioting. For many people they believed there was no justice. For now you have an overly sensitive African American community saying we tried to do it the right way. We waited on due process. We waited on investigations, we waited on the court. We marched peacefully, e did not have disruptions. We were peaceful and still didnt get justice. You have young people in the city of ferguson that are frustrated beyond what any of us imagine, because its not just about the shooting of michael brown, its an ongoing failure to have productive communication between a department thats supposed to protect and serve and a community that deserves to be served. We talked to the mayor of ferguson, asking about the fact that he says 10 africanamerican Police Officers, and they have done a good job recruiting but they cant get enough africanamericans on the police force. What do you say to that . Thats on excuse used throughout the United States. How do you get young people to want to be part of an institution, that when they grow up they have negative interactions. Even black Law Enforcement when they are shot at and killed in plain clothes or off duty, young kids dont have a chance. A lot of young kids dont want to be a part. Our organization, we go out to the community. We have trial tests and show them this is a good job. Because of their experiences and what they see on tv and experience, they dont want to be a part of the institution. In some cities, you hardly see a black cop on the street. Let me go to Ashar Quraishi on the ground. What are you seeing now . Have things calmed down . We are away from the area. We had to pack up and we are nowhere near the area. We took a side route off the road. We cant see much. Police have pushed everyone back, thats what we understood the plan to be up until we were taken out by the swat vehicle. We can actually not see what is happening. Can you explain to the audience that might have just tuned in, why you left . We were literally standing to do a live hit for the international channel. We had lights and camera. A Police Vehicle was blocking the road, going out from the location where we were standing. We had multiple conversations with the Police Officers about how long theyd be there, and whether or not it was safe for us to be there. We understood it to be safe, because we were more than a mile or so away from where the demonstrations were taking place, which is why we chose the location we couldnt get closer. Just before we were about to go live people ran out of the neighbourhood, surrounding our area, coming from that location in ferguson, and as they started to do that, we heard flashbang grenades getting closer. We were told by some of the people that they were shot at with what appeared to be rubber bullets, as they described them, and the next thing, something i assumed to be a rubber bullet shot past me, and as they turned around i could see there was an armoured Police Vehicle coming up the parallel streets we were about to go live from, and flooding lights in our direction. The next thing i saw was a cannister fly past my right side hitting our crew vehicle in the front bumper, and thats when the tear gas went off. So, you know, i didnt move quite right away. But all of a sudden i got a whiff of the tear gas and couldnt see, could barely breath. We had to run out of the smoke area, and down the street a little further. As we tried to come back and approach the equipment, they started to fire again, it seemed like. We retreated further into the neighbour hood, and the vehicle turned into the street we were standing on, and thats when we raised our hands over our heads, screamed out that we were from the media. They preached us and order approached us and ordered us to get out of the vehicle. They tubiook us to the crew are and we got out of the area. We are following the situation unfolding in ferguson missouri. Well come back and talk about it more. Its breaking news. Major developments in the u. S. Operatio thousands atop a mountain top in iraq. Egypt and hamas say theres a new 5day ceasefire, while rockets and air strikes fall. Its coming up after this. Dont go away. Now to Northern Iraq where pentagon Officials Say the once dire situation on mt sinjar is improving. Humanitarian drops have been more successful. The white house was considering sending combat troops. Defense secretary chuck hagel says its less likely in baghdad a string of bombs killed nearly three dozen people, one wept went off in a shia neighbourhood. Former Navy Seal Robert dube war served in iraq and joins us from the phone from fredericksburg, virginia. Good to have you on the programme. What is the take that the white house raised sound like it will not happen the possibility that there may be boots on the ground in iraq again . There are boots in small numbers, assessing the area, doing a quick survey and seeing what the status is. The news appears to be more good than bad in relation to the conditions on the mountain. Its something to be grateful more. They are not in dire need. Some professed to be in starving or danger. If they were stable and can be kept safe there, its best to do that, because of the disruption. We had helicopters going down by overweight from individuals clam boring aboard to say their lives. If it can be secured in space, thats a better thing. If it slows around and lets us deal with that in combat operations and prevention. You said combat operation. Of course, the u. S. Has been heard to say combat forces will not necessarily be involved. How do you stop the socalled Islamic State from moving forward. If you if theres not a dire situation on mt sinjar . Well, let me be specific about combat. I dont mean american troops, i mean we, the all the interested parties pushing i. S. I. S. Back, preventing them going further, disrupting them enough to pull them apart. Its a complex issue. Maliki, in his struggle now, holding on to power possibly is one more disruption that has been part of the reason for i. S. I. S. Being in a position of power now. The sunnis were resentful being abused or negotiated by the shia, as the reverse happened. The solution to i. S. I. S. Is not exclusive combat power. Its not about fighting and creating other consequences when there are, you know, shrapnel the Collateral Damage in society is a big part of what was talked about we are creating more than we are killing. The solution lies in cooperation, getting others to realise the threat to the region, and others like ourselves cooperating and giving assistance making sure politically we dont go too far afield. The reality is its called by having the fracture in society, and it begins with that, and the immediate response, and combat power to push back the guys that are calm. All right, robert dube i say, thank you very much. A ceasefire between israel and gaza has been extended for five days, diplomat in cairo are working on a longterm truce. Nick schifrin reports. Israel and hamas, before the war, had an understanding that if one fired into empty fields, the other would return fire into empty fields. Thats what we saw tonight in the hours as the ceasefire was announced. According to the military eight rockets fired from gaza into israel, and israel responded with three or four air strikes according to residents in gaza. Every target was an empty field.

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