The railings before being tasered. Wages rose at their fastest rate in a decade in the 3 months to October according to the Office for National Statistics there was a record number of people in work economics correspondent Andy Verity explains the average pay rise of 3.3 percent is the fastest wage growth we've had for a decade once you take an inflation into account the average wage still grew by one percent according to an S.S. To me it's a better improvement in living standards than we've had in 2 years if that does make people feel better off though its slow progress before the financial crisis most pay rises were consistently above 3.3 percent and above inflation and the average wage is still lower in real terms than it was in 2011 the workforce continued to grow in the 3 months to October as more people took jobs who weren't previously working or looking for work the number of unemployed edged up 520-0021 1000000 380000 people. Police in Newcastle have arrested a man on suspicion of tariff and says officers say the 33 year old was detained as part of a planned operation is being questioned by at a police station in West Yorkshire. B.B.C. News understands the 2nd phase of the Grenfell tower inquiry won't start before next autumn and could begin even less than that Phase 2 will examine the refer basement of the building including the use of cladding which help the fire to spread his are Home Affairs Correspondent Tom Simons the inquiry is 1st phase has concentrated soley on the night of the fire it's a detailed evidence that the plastic cladding added to the building and the redesign of its windows both allowed the flames to spread rapidly face to will examine why these changes were made as part of the ground for refurbishment but the inquiry has been told these hearings won't start until autumn next year at the earliest and may slip to 2020 This will allow lawyers to digest a vast amount of evidence some of which will be passed to a coroner who next year is expected to conclude a number of inquest into the deaths at the tower Meanwhile a police investigation into the disaster continues. The advertising group W P P is cutting 3 and a half 1000 jobs worldwide as part of a restructuring plan. Founder and chief executives and Martin Sorrell unexpectedly stood down in April and made misconduct allegations which he denied the company employs 14000 people in the U.K. And 130000 globally. Britain's least used railway station has been named as British Steel red car according to the office for rare and road only 40 passengers were recorded at the station in North Yorkshire last year Harvey cook reports just for northern train services stop at red carpet is still a tweak day and the few passengers who use it won't find too many facilities with no ticket machines waiting room or toilets. 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Went into another line a hard journey by here we are talking later on about the research which seems to de bunk what we had all hoped which is that if you do a lot of Sudoku you can ward off dementia and now saying that that does not work sadly anyway will hear more and who knows they may even change their minds in a week's time people should care as to sleep overnight at a client's home be entitle to the minimum wage for those hours or are they just getting paid to sleep is about carers who stay overnight at the home of the person they're looking after the client might have learning difficulties or mental health problems which means they might need assistance during the night these so-called sleeping shifts they usually 9 hours long they start late at night 10 pm 11 pm Some of that and they finish early in the morning typically a care worker will do a shift in the day then a sleep in shift overnight and then another day shift afterwards so they can effectively end up working for over 24 hours in total at the moment most carers are paid at least minimum wage for day shifts but unless a flat rate for the night shifts that's the key thing these flat rates can be as low as $35.00 pounds for 9 ashit which works out to 3 pounds 80 an hour. Charities paying the flat rate say that's legal and fair because care is a sleeping care of say No no we're on call that's different so if you're a carer who works these sleep in shifts and can give us some insight into what they entailed do cool 128-8291 email vine that B.B.C. U.K. Lower Brandon joins us a social care support and you've done the sleep ins Laura Yes I have so you were at somebodies home were you looking after them in their house yeah I was that somebody is home and my sleep in I say sleep and rarely slapped was a I was and I got paid 28 pound for that A hours OK So just to understand how it works the classic is you've got a full working day either side of the sleeping is that writes Yes So typically on a weekday 1 o'clock in the afternoon and I'd finish at 10 am The Follow him on and if it was a weekend say Friday it started at 1 pm on the Friday and finish it 3 pm on a Saturday I see so many 6 hours yeah but how often was your sleep disrupted and I I rarely slept quite a bit I mean even if you weren't actively giving can't you listen out for any noises that might indicate somebody was open about. You at least into the house creak in it is very difficult sleep now when the responsibility that you've got was it just you then yes I was quite a responsibility and the person you were caring for with a young or old. They account for a few Yeah I was given I had no idea without dealing with an elderly person or and no not al delay Yeah I'd say around around fall and then some younger to have the kind of condition that they would typically have and it was autism M.L.A. All right now we have Philip on the line as well by coincidence I guess it is because. He was your Effectively your employer say Philip Hello. Chief executive of autism plus in Sheffield is that where you were Laura Yes that was OK I don't know if you 2 actually ever run into each other but Philip give us an idea of why you've you've sort of put this tariff on. Well the tariff is imposed not by autism. Providers but it's imposed by the government and if you think about the flat rate that's paid for sleeping workers that's been the case it's been the norm for decades now and it's absolutely scandalous so the control over how much we pay support workers is not within our hands it's within the hands of the government so this problem lies at the heart of government you can pay them over there if you if you wanted to if you look today you can pay them all we'd love to pay them more yes but the money we receive to pay for cash about national government and I state and administered through local authorities in the C.C. G.'s I understand when they are assuming that Laura's work Philip was paid for by the states indirectly via you you're saying the state will calculate a tariff and they impose that on you and you've got no say in it that's right absolutely Well I'm still completely hamstrung over that I'm sure that's why you're fighting yes we are and I'm just Kerry snow if somebody was funded for 24 hour care and there were 2 of these clients in one house or 224 hour and then maybe 2 fall clients to one staff member how does that let them do they do they not fun 20 file and I can just give me all this I want to one I'm asking for letter that. Well . The cap revive it is based on the insides mint of the of each individual and again as dictated by an agreed with the local authority so we have no control over that. We assist in the assessment process is run by social workers locally they agree a rate for a person and how much cover the person requires So somebody with very complex alters and or other related conditions may require more than one support worker and that's not paid for by the state but whether you have one person sleeping on on nights or whether you have waited nights whether pay the full hourly rate. That's completely dictated by the local authority in this is part of a a wider problem there is a crisis nationally in social care and I think your listeners need to know about this because it's gone on and it's been exacerbated since austerity measures reintroduced I do know about it yeah I mean because we're all getting older so we can't ignore because we the from our parents or grandparents or whatever or be ourselves we can't ignore it you know but the job the job Laura does and everybody else within a look also to them close and so care workers right across the country particularly in learning disability autism and people with increasingly complex conditions this is a very skillful and demanding job and they deserve to be paid looks more lord did you in the end leave what happened and I handed in my notice for variety of reasons the sleeping pay being one of them and book Yeah well the average man I was just so I get a clear my head on average on a night where your supposed to be you know in theory in bed between Bed say 11 and 67 hours how many hours you actually in bed for and we can go to 11 sleep in I was lucky to get maybe 2 hours so I'd go 26 hours at a time on tirelessly and yes maybe I didn't. Actively care but I had a duty of care to vulnerable adults who may have conditions such as epilepsy all I might be if they didn't want to go to bed so I don't put them in bed because I want to go to bed at 11 and I know you're following all that the legals on this and there's been a bit of back and forth hasn't there because it seems that you'd won a victory over this and then it was struck down can you explain what happened there and it went to call twice and the unions won I think it was clad Thomas and Blake and John Shannon who talked to cop and they won twice and then then took it to cost 3rd time and won and put this law changed around 6 years ago this was 6 years back pace coming from and if you look on the government website it still states and people who do sleep in shifts a classed as if they are at the workplace or on call the government websites not changed essentially But you the moment you haven't got the back pay that you want no do you worry that if councils have to pay back pay for people who slept in homes of older people they'll get the council to just be bankrupted by the government should be formed in the US right OK I mean this law changed a long time ago but it's only now people are Calyx the challenge in it that companies. OK very insular thank you so much Laura Brandon social care support worker who was paid as little as 3 pounds 50 an hour for these sleeping shifts all sleep in shifts where you sleep in the home of the patient you are caring for in the day and you probably work out for the bottom chief executive of autism plus. Those. I can see. From a kid or the of work think a lot from the great a showman to die with use we just thought the fence to that least of in emails and says i do sleep a have a shifts i work From 315 until 8 am sorry I should say 3 15 pm to 8 am so just think about mid afternoon in that order and then at some point you got a bit less 11 o'clock and then you you're up at 8 AM my day shift right stops at 10 pm I don't see properly because I'm aware the person I care for May need help during the night so yes I think sleep over shift should be paid at the daily rate Jason emails my partner is a carer has got to do the sleep ins as part of her role she's only a minimum wage but she has the responsibility of looking after 4 people for who can be left on their own due to their needs and mobility is very rare she manages to sleep at night and she's got a lot of responsibility and she's paid very little so need the caring business is one of the most low paid his name is really one of the hardest for every every single angle newsletter is in Bogner a just highly. So you've been doing the sleep in shifts Yeah yeah yeah regularly day I was chased I'd start I am in the morning I cringe my diary I play many things and then I'll do a sleep in shift after that from 8 till I. There in that time if you're caring for someone is there any downtime until now I even start the day from 8 am to 8 PM Would you don't get a lunch break and stuff how would that work you would have a lunch brightly. It was in a residential. Residence would have to mention so I would regularly be wandering in an hour and during the day and night. Many joined a night when I was having my so you could sleep. Like. I had a chance of sleeping in the lounge in the residence and. So the residents would come in and watch telly with me chillin at night so I didn't seem to really. Be in the lounge and the rest as you come in and put the T.V. On OK yeah I see Sounds like your employer someone has to work yeah yeah did you leave in the end was that just too much stress is like you and I don't know all right thank you very much you take abacus was wrote and K. Thank you but I all of us Bob I let's just see we got Xena Higgs in Wakefield Yorkshire he says I've been a carer since 2008 and the rate hasn't changed is 35 pounds for a night shift because the way the shifts work the person is being cared for has to be in bed by the time the carer goes to bed so their freedom is being taken away from them Peter Jackson has imbued Lee in with the show and you direct to care business Pete Yes that's correct Jeremy So how do you deal with the sleep in shifts Well it's quite interesting because as a new business when we 1st started it used to be a set right for a sleeping which would generally be between 10 o'clock and 7 in the morning and that would be set at 40 pounds 50 for Saturday and then 60 for Sunday but it was still much much below the minimum wage so the government has just been overturned and the government announcing asleep in Kara's aren't in Tartu to minimum wage that said it's unfair on the carers your previous caller did cite an under-rated your bases and you know we value our carers as much as our clients because it's a tough job to do out there in the community and the demand on on Thomas or the recap is getting worse it's getting busier and busier dying dying out. Well I think you're right and I think that the if you're in the end stages of your life the difference between a good care and a really great one is enormous and the very very few who are absolutely the perfect person for that that role are gold and that is not paid enough. You know you've actually here now on the head there because carers they are a fantastic team they say they've got to have the compassion they've got to have that love you know our companies T.L.C. It's time love and compassion that's what we want to deliver. But I want to reward our carers what a lot of people don't understand is that when your funded by councils you are dictated to how much you can charge you know we've got that got us to that now because that was the point made earlier telling pressure that yeah but from that for example for one council we get 8 pounds that you want to deliver a 30 minute call working in a rural area with tying up to 4 pounds in travel expenses down 31 for 30 or 30 minute call 30 minute 30 minute call OK when we have to try Nash insurance pensions . The wage you know if we're only at 7 pounds 90 then half an hour you need it 4 pounds and. The margins not enough to supply in the long term care for companies Arca So it's understood. You know week we've got we're on the border of us to hear instruction as a 3 time difference just by going to miles up the road from what the council tight . Makes it more feasible thank you very much indeed thank you Peter Jackson in. Trying to provide. What he pays the minimum wage when he scarcely but many don't because that's all the money they get from the council so something's got to give. We kept talking later about it but we this will appeal to you that the idea of whether in old age we can stave off any decline in our faculties by playing Sudoku and doing crosswords do you one who believes that that's possible I think we should be open minded to any things like nutrition Yeah an exercise so you know how brain is a muscle Jess we need to put it at work I'd love to learn to play tennis or maybe a little bit I have never done it really I guess almost I would I would teach you I mean it's easy to learn you just get better. Better Every No it's not I can't play it well because I keep being beaten by my daughter but I can play the kneeling rather in South Yorkshire says of Kara's who sleep in overnight they should be paid more they have a bigger responsibility because they're on their own and they don't just sleeping they're also on the alert she can be tough sometimes Jane but she's absolutely on the cara side Louise emails I worked as a care worker for 7 months last year I went to work at $730.00 on a Monday didn't get home till 10 pm on a Friday and I was paid $25.00 quid for the hours between 10 pm and 7 30 in the morning every day I took this to a tribunal and I was told I was not entitle to any other pay because on average I was paid more than the minimum wage at that Lucy and it'll happen in West Sussex as it used to work a 24 hour shift and I would get the same rate for sleeping over but I've just been made redundant because the charity couldn't afford to pay minimum wage for sleeping over maybe if they paid $35.00 pounds for the night we would still have a job. That is the other side of it now Bobbie has the traffic control Jeremy thank you 1st of all Perth the A 9 on the southbound side a lorry broke down just it to the enviroment roundabout so the A 112 junction you can get past it just a little bit slow on the approach is now the M 6 southbound 15 if a Stoke on Trent to the Stafford services there's a rolling roadblock because of some potholes so you're stuck in station traffic on a stationary traffic hopefully it's only temporary but it hasn't been played yet then to the M 6 on the northbound side $14.00 to $15.00 is a lane close that with an extent I'm sick southbound again junction 10 for Walsall going to break down $190.00 shot on the M 6 southbound at Junction for broken down lorry is still on to the A 4 for 6 So they've closed the entry slip road on the M 6 southbound Seekonk get on at Junction 4 Coleshill only in 42 a 24 southbound This is south London a stone court Hill between the Sutton common road and more than part of the big queues and this is because of an accident on. The hell but you can squeeze past it I'm finally Cold War a 30 westbound apartment accident just near to Cali with the A 38 junction lost in road now that's early reports on the westbound side and waiting for more information so be prepared and I'll have an update for you in about an hour Steve thank you I'm just watching just in case you wondered if I was distracted the film off to reason may arriving in Berlin so just run it here the car pulls up assistant goes to the back door tries to open the back door of the car to resume at the end the red carpet can't get the back doors not opening so if you see his body the back door the prime ministerial limousine in Berlin is not happening Angela Merkel is standing there 3 if about 3 yards of security guards go in the front of the car and his press something childlike. I did as a