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BBC Radio 4 FM BBC Radio 4 FM February 3, 2020 190000

Carried out by 20 years or so the Amman he'd been released from jail last month having served only half of his sentence the new measures will apply to people already in jail as well as new offenders the mayor of London Sunday card said cuts to the justice system had left communities less safe judges have the powers to give the right sentence for those convicted of terrorist offenses they're not being properly punished or reformed in prison in fact they have been radicalized and made worse and they're being released on the streets of London with under-resourced and overstretched our police service and a probation service that's been decimated is the worst of all worlds that u.k. On the European Union are odds about their post Brooks said relationship with modest Johnson and the e.u. Is chief negotiator Michel Barnier setting up contrasting views about the way forward Mr Johnson said Britain did not have to align with e.u. Regulations on standards and state aid to reach a deal but Mr Barly a said an ambitious trade agreement was conditional on fair competition within a robust regulatory framework. The health secretary Matt Hancock has warned that the new code on a virus that began in China will be around for months there have been 2 confirmed cases in Britain so far more than $300.00 have been tested for the virus a stalker who's had us to the Newsnight presenter Emily make lists for 2 decades has been sentenced for breaching a restraining order for the 12th time jobs at Nottingham Crown Court said Edward vines had a lifelong obsession with the journalist Vimes who is 49 and already in jail has had his sentence extended by 3 years universal credit to the largest welfare reform in a generation has been hit with another delay to its full rollout at a cost of half a $1000000000.00 pounds it's now expected to be introduced fully in September 2024 a setback of 9 months it's been beset by problems and blamed by opponents for the rise in the use of food banks b.b.c. News. I don't want to touch that. Super kids has a show and tell table. It's a 15000000 year old whale with a surprising story is it true that some whales have a regional accent and startling specimens from that it was a pure It's a frog cannot believe broccoli is trying to kill you and it actually gives you a bit of a simple. Really crazy things a toxin that's in broccoli is also toxic broccoli. Frankly isn't a. Super against present danger table the new b.b.c. Radio 4630 comedy from of the evenings. Now on radio for Peggy's been left in the cold in the arches. Say that then everyone writes down their wish for a little tone deaf ear so you don't want some tea Grande near you think your hand on the camera he didn't know what you're missing he said he turned on sorry yes yeah I put it on Max do you want another blanket no I want all boy and thinks. You think the battle big no idea he's going to get a part has any he stayed over an hour. And he said he'd ring so I'm sure he will and then adamant in box up all the individual wishes and then one is opened in back to him every year on his Beth day isn't that lovely how many people are making a way everyone in the naming ceremony 2030 will send or want to hear wishes from people on his 1st birthday if he would most of them the day. That's a point. Well they could read 2 or 3 to him every year maybe put them all in a nice book and then you can see them all with every want to know yes it was a much better idea grant we're good at this now other idea this is an idiot but I can't concentrate on this now if the boiler isn't fixed tonight I really don't think I should stay here. Going on to go on 5 now and you have to make arrangements Oh there we go right on cue let's. Say. Poor Ruth and the police searched the entire year for all jockeys fakers the machinery have to be chucked they are rare. Person I seized these computers I suppose they will read few green. Blue only n. . Banks How do you have no pads at all we have the back I'll just finish serving. The note you were 1st I wouldn't like to delay what did you come in for Linda. I'm not sure Linda came into this ng Susan is the famous petition that she's come to check up on the don't rename our pub even though we barely use it petition. Did you know if you were a regular Linda I might take you seriously as it happens the rebels include many regulars also very funny the rebel Red Bull very creative to you going to ask to sign it not at this precise moment because I didn't want to make her feel uncomfortable I see which is just how some of your longest standing patrons feel Lilian uncomfortable with your ludicrous change of name the be at and it was painstakingly chosen to expand I can tell not change it no one wants to throw the baby out with the bathwater believe me really you can't honestly believe young professionals will descend all mussed to spend their money in sleepy Oh. Well that's where you're wrong already working with Sting a trendy and networking group tomorrow for a cocktail. That would you and your fellow Red Bulls like to join us for those cocktails and bury the hatchet and let you run roughshod over local sensitivities the boss. All is a part of every teacher Lilian even if you'd rather it wasn't a good day to do cold along if you fancy a bloody say can also make somebody. Like. Some release name you know love when you're told I'm going to eat was in no book you say please don't go there Susan I'm running late now I'm supposed to be collecting my well I'll put you to so if you tomorrow oh I. Better. Sorry man I've had more than enough of Am I an Irish show aren't even a pitcher I hope that's caused some time now so I'll see you in about 10 Me too so . I'm doing a cheek to cheek. Yet you're back in a stable thank you aren't there you are sure you scare the horses sorry have you got any of my messages up in treating bouncer I was ringing and texting for ages Well good job my phone's on silent and I'm article kicked and it's a gnostic a suppressed time to support our I'm sorry about that but when it's an emergency you really should answer the emergency Oh boy has broken down so yes I have to stay but you Oh. Ok So Juba you were my key because we don't need to cause driving exacting re do it you can pick me up from the lodge in half an hour while I won't be finished and I've got to update bounces records and plan to Mars visit So yes all right I'll go pack my suitcase suitcase and I'm hungry so you really can't be long sorry mom I won't be a minute now you could have stayed in the car who I'd rather keep moving my legs a stiff arm sitting in the cold all afternoon I just need to check me go to not spend it for the cocktails tomorrow. I'm sorry to put you out there but they don't want to risk catching a cold at this time of year Oh you're very welcome honestly be lovely to have you have a long you boil it takes goodness what is it really well I'm sorry there are no customers pub ish Harrison and feeling around the oh oh no they're going good you're supposed to be running your business it will be a pope full tomorrow don't worry. Got plenty Why don't you show you in just didn't get my going back to pick Hilder in the kittens. Look what we'll see what he says about that man I have to think of Ruby what your problem is nearly and we can't leave the poor catch there it's far too cold to manage you know how terrified Ruby is it has been very aggressive with her that was months ago and Ruby was stealing her food she can be quite naughty I mention bad temper and hide talking about Ruby you. Know if you won't have the catch I have to go home and make do with a whole water bottle I don't suppose it will take too many days to repair the boiler I'll manage to be silly of course we'll have the cat will you live ever near if you're sure yes yes mum I'm sure. Mum for you no doubt. Cheney's need every day. And smells delicious glass and you'll. Trying. Oh oh yes there I work or stay or. We're all ready to say yes to Justin's offer this morning when Hannah pulled another Remember stunts trying to make going to write made a mistake with the orders so course not all that. She's watching my every move so what are you going to turn around and I honestly have no idea. I'm sorry love I feel like I'd let you. Know it. Costs here you have never let me down I must have been underperforming or just him wouldn't be doing this shit he's restructuring trying to save money that's the one and small I Pike case of sorry you've always preferred working I do is whatever I might think oh new but what about the drop in income that's hardly a priority none course now. Not a better job one wanted to make you prayed in a series money probably for you take this other job you'll be proud if you knew you . It's amazing what you've achieved to this new well fairly it's a buy you mean. And if you have to manage hiring wouldn't you be happy. Be a good look. If you want to create. This following to. You want me to take it or not I want you to be happy. I'll support you always the why no. One here to answer for you well. Thank you Susan Oh thanks that's at least talk it over tell you having our turn you know we're very. Oh Linda Good evening Neil I'm sorry it's about the you we are about to eat this will take long I wondered if you'd like to sign at petition Oh you mean about the bowl changing its name yes I know Linda it's not convenient imo Rai's you didn't have time to tell us Susan I have a pensive quick signature and I'll be out of your way no I'm sorry return. Remember to me oh no they're not going to suck because we've. Been one would hope not sometimes you have to sorry it is easy and I knew Now you mentioned to you that's not the pen Thank you Neal you are. Has been saying quote It is an apple we call it will continue until it is once more the boat. Thank you going to showing you it's just what we typically. Were no customers reason or we're going to show for em a shake let's get the bull sorted. Out. Keith a year. This more cases can stay in the lounge which is a small one. And cooks in a few other things and that bags full of vegetables but calf of the other one of the soya milk quietly you have to do your fridge of course we have no idea when the boiler will be working again. Oh ho they so takes all stress away in an instant Oh put your stuff in the fridge no thanks and my cases can go in the bedroom. It was just that but I'm having strike. You can have some of the food you brought with you I'm certainly not touching this Reagan cheese Actually it's rather nice. Oh that reminds me I need to check on the case trying for the naming ceremony there I'm sure he's got it all in hand just make sure he doesn't serve bacon cheese and I've just ordered the most fabulous on naming ceremonies Well I've had a Mini and realize how much effort you're putting aside a mind to such a cool just baby he deserves a truly wonderful day don't you think he does. So what exactly the boy like I say. It was something to do with the pressure that I wasn't really listening we didn't sound bad bad enough I've never been so cold poor Granma shivering poor Peggy. It's a text from the mindful marketing course mindful marketing is that even a thing yes very much a thing although it's not because the courses for shame yes you choose. Now if you don't mind starting once up I'm going to have the lovely hot off well actually Kate you can cook your own food once you've finished in the bathroom come on sweet heart I'm far too tight and this is the recipe book and read case only daughter step fried just call me when it's ready back here we can stuff right is then with steak. Then goes into battle and Neil reaches a decision we're back in Ambridge tomorrow at the same time now on Radio 4 it's time for front row with John Wilson Hello Tom Hanks has played a lot of good guys in his time but he's bomb villain will have to wait Mr Hanks tells me about playing Mr Rogers an all-American children's t.v. Hero we hear how breaks in negotiations are being played out as a choreographed dance in Belfast and we look at how the notion of artistic risk has changed in the last 2 decades and why unemployment may have encouraged creativity 20 years ago they had no money. No backing but they also had a really good benefits so even 20 years before that I mean they're all signing off they were signing on and you could sign on and you have the space to explore and create and develop your artistic voice because you had a small amount of money that could mean you could survive more later from Amanda Parker one of 3 guests who will be debating the changing nature of risk Tom Hanks has long had a reputation of one of Hollywood's good guys thanks to a genial off screen persona and a succession of modest self-effacing hero roles on screen he's played a trio of captains in Saving Private Ryan Sally and Captain Phillips he was the voice of Sheriff Woody of course in for Toy Story films and won Oscars for Philadelphia and Forrest Gump now he's up for his 1st Academy Award in nearly 20 years for his latest good guy role and in America they don't come much more wholesome them Fred Rogers Mister Rogers' as he was known was the host of an educational children's television series that ran for over 3 decades from the late sixty's on Woods in new film a beautiful day in the neighborhood an investigative reporter is assigned to profile one of the best loved people in America and sets out to expose the real Mr Rogers under the television for some odd what he discovers is that Rogers is even nicer than he seems it's beautiful and that's not the beautiful. Would you be mine. Please. My neighbor. Tom Hanks is Fred Rogers in the film Matthew Rhys plays the reporter Lloyd Vogel who arrives to interview his subject with a black eye and a cut nose the 2 men forge an unlikely friendship as Rogers disarms Vogel with his honesty and his concern for the reporter who it transpires is also funny how to deal with emotional wounds. I met Tom Hanks when he was in London just before Christmas he started by explaining the concept of the real neighborhood children's show for British listeners who like me may have had no idea who Fred Rogers was he had the only television enterprise that was aimed at 2 year olds 3 year olds 4 year olds human beings that had yet to understand how complicated the world is he was it teaches them how to spell he was a teach them how to count it was a teaching them how to read he was teaching them how to be better human beings we had to prove to get the world to play dealing with. His message it wasn't like oh don't worry about it oh you're going to be Ok just the opposite he was saying you're feeling sad Tell me about feeling sad and had the timing unlike anything else who are long pauses there were silences there were moments where you would just look in the camera and say things like Have you ever played a trumpet you know you don't get the trumpet neat you have to blow into the trumpet but blowing into a trumpet is how it makes it sound Oh who's that at the door Oh it's it's Mr Me It's Mr Farley Mr Foley's go to hell he brought his trumpet Let's say you know that when he saw the way you play phone to phone What 2 I actually what. We we had that was the hardest thing about being in the movie is that we had to slow down the movies are always hurry up hurry up I thought actually watching the film and then I didn't realize this was a real story I went to youtube and you see that you have recreated the set in absolute specific detail and you have captured the cadences and the rhythms and that it's really extraordinary the slow pace that really is the odds to the way that you hope in real life very often on screen was. Fast talking glib wise and Harmer Yeah I've turned attention deficit disorder into a lucrative career thank you thank you very much. The. It was powerful in that the pass' are not dead air they are loaded with meaning they are loaded with engagement on our program not trying to look through the camera into the concept of a single time how many of the shows did you watch in preparation of what. I mean was it was studied was it oh yeah oh yeah it was it was a matter of not only looking for the matter resumes in the most obvious s of the visuals but also the philosophical d.n.a. Of every show I mean they were scripted to to within a t. Over it oh yes and the subject matter is he was talking about they were all about he worked with a very specific child psychologist he worked with his own people from the seminary that he went into in order to pee did this one thing like for example there's one where he comes in and says oh I have to make a phone call to see if Mrs Riley is still ready for me to come by and he picks up the phone and he dials it and he says Hello this is Fred Rogers may I speak to Mrs Riley Oh. Oh I'm so sorry and he hangs up the phone he says wrong number. And he gets out his little address book and it looks at he says. 2. And he picks up and he read dials Wow And then he gets the right that who else would bother showing an adult making a mistake like that take the time out and then what it said to a 2 or 3 year old kid is oh that's how you use a phone and sometimes adults make mistakes as sophisticated tiny tiny little things that were just meant to reassure a kid that they're a mystery always has some sort of an answer to. Mr Rogers I'm here to interview it is so nice to me in the relationship between Fred and Lloyd Vogel the journalist who was doing the big story on him is all about boomeranging any sort of attention off of Fred and bring it back on to the man who was asking the question is which he rose Yeah and their lives are all screwed up in that way you're going to be dangerous to Lloyd you're going to wait him out this piece will be for an issue about heroes do you consider yourself a hero and to think of myself as a hero not at all. Oh Mr Rogers is he here. I don't understand the question Well there's you Fred and then there's the character you play Mr Rogers. You are going to look him in the eye and says well yes I have problems but the problems you have must weigh on you much more than they would on me you said it was a play at the plate. Is that is that what. Happened. I'm here to interview you Mr Rogers and that is what we did is that he was telling to everybody including this guy who came it was very damaged right off the bat was saying you. You don't have to worry about being damaged we're all damaged they can take an awful lot of burden off of the person but France really going to screw up Lloyd's life by treating him with kindness and trusting him because the man has never been trusted in his life and he's digging deep as well and he wants to get some of the nicest person if I just saw on the surveillance. I was genuinely expecting the twist to be uncovered by the list and that would have been some horrible revelation which of undercut his whole reputation and it was in that film it was about goodness well goodness with the understanding that even Fred experience all the things that in a human being does moments of self loathing moments of questioning whether he was really doing a good job or not whether he was actually actually making his viewers into better more well rounded human beings and he's target audiences a television full rather 23 year olds but you'll suggesting he's ministering to the nation you know Wess an extraordinary. Day for $968.00 in the week the Robert Kennedy assassination and Mr Roach is talks to the parents of America about the effect that the violence that the hearing and seeing on screen might be having on the children does this film have new resonance today given the French. I think the default mode for almost every brand of public discussion is is conflict you know is is cynicism is about are fact Fred lived his life battling against that very thing the uniqueness of Fred Rogers Neighborhood w

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