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BBC Radio 4 LW BBC Radio 4 LW February 5, 2020 130000

Most of your life because we are confined to our cabin we are not getting any choice of food it's pretty basic in a changing media landscape the culture secretary Nicky Morgan suggests the b.b.c. License fee is up for grabs if you have to criminalize the norm payment of a license fee in order for the b.b.c. To say it has the funding to remain relevant and that was just to me there's something wrong with the model and who is this guy remember where it's not just this represented this time of the shooting victory for this event this candidacy decision that you all have been important. To gauge a gay military veteran is leading after the 1st official vote to choose which Democrat should take on Donald Trump our very own Jim knoxy is up early in Scranton Pennsylvania to talk to us the b.b.c. News is read by Susan Ray the Chinese authorities are stepping up efforts to control the spread of the corona virus which has now caused the deaths of nearly 500 people in some areas orders have been introduced allowing just one person in the household to go outside to buy supplies in Hong Kong visitors from mainland China have been ordered to enter compulsory quarantine for 14 days our correspondent Robin Brant is monitoring developments from Shanghai the highly restrictive measures put in place to try to contain this virus in will hand and now slowly emerging in of the cities far far away the government is continuing to stop long distance travel and increasingly it's asking people in parts of some of the cities or forcing them to stay at home for almost all the time it would hand doctors say a newborn baby born to a mother there with the virus is also now tested positive for it raising the prospect that it can be passed on in the womb or thirty's in Hong Kong for further tightened restrictions there mandatory self quarantine for all visitors from the mainland who come into force on Saturday. Thousands of passengers on 2 cruise ships have been placed in quarantine for 2 weeks after a number of people on board both boats tested positive for the coronavirus one ship is anchored in waters off Japan the other is docked in Hong Kong here the health secretary Matt Hancock has said the government is taking the outbreak very seriously a final flight to bring British people back from who Bay province is due to leave early on Sunday the Foreign Office has advised all British nationals in mainland China to leave the country a man who fell ill on an Air France flight on his way back to the u.k. Has no tested negative for the virus the b.b.c. Has been told it must evolve to meet the challenges of the digital age if it's to avoid becoming an historic relic speaking in central London the culture section a lady Morgan said it was time to think carefully about whether the t.v. License fee was relevant in the modern media landscape she's also launched a consultation to evaluate whether criminal sanctions remain the best way of dealing with people who fail to pay for their license as our media editor Amol Rajan reports on the current rules nonpayment of the license fee can lead ultimately to a jail sentence in 2018 more than 121000 people were convicted and sentenced for evasion the average fine was $176.00 pounds 5 people in England and Wales went to jail lady Morgan asked whether the current system was still relevant in the context of a revolutionized media landscape the b.b.c. Argues that only no point 3 percent of court time is taken up with evasion cases and that removing the criminal to Taren would cost the corporation $200000000.00 pounds but precisely how much it would cost the b.b.c. Is impossible to predict because in June 3 point 7000000 pensioners who had been receiving free t.v. Licenses will have to pay for them this includes many of the B.B.C.'s most loyal audiences. The health secretary Matt Hancock says the government will adopt the recommendations from the inquiry into the disgraced surgeon in Patterson Pattison is serving a 20 year prison sentence for wounding patients by performing unnecessary mastectomies and other Saturdays the report yesterday said he got away with it for years and it wasn't convinced a similar scandal couldn't happen again his own health editor Hugh Pym the Paterson inquiry report contained 15 recommendations to address what it called a dysfunctional health care system which had failed patients up until 2011 when the surgeon was finally suspended the health secretary Matt Hancock said this morning that the central recommendations of the report would be implemented including information sharing between different regulators He said that be an update in a year's time on the introduction of the most important changes his predecessor Jeremy Hunt who's just become the chair of the commons Health Select Committee has told the b.b.c. The committee will look into relevant issues in the n.h.s. And private hospitals raised by the report when in office he'd made patient safety a priority but he said the safety culture still wasn't right the jury at the trial of Hashim Beatty the younger brother of the Manchester Arena bomber has been told a friend refused to buy sulfuric acid for him after learning it could be used to make explosives the 22 year old defendant denies murder and assisting and encouraging his brother Salman ab a baby to carry out the attack in May 2017 which killed 22 people and injured hundreds more from the Old Bailey down Johnson reports the jury heard that during the early part of 2017 Husham a baby and his older brother Selma approached friends and relatives to buy stuff you're a casket and hydrogen peroxide on their behalf Asham a baby's work colleague Mohammed Solomon is believed to have ordered 10 liters of acid after he was told it was needed for a battery powered backup generator in Libya another friend tried to make a purchase but didn't have enough money then approached his father who warned him about the potential use the friend then had no further contact with the brothers the prosecution says they were able to amass more than 70 liters of chemicals to build there Bob. The government is planning to reverse reforms introduced while to resume a was prime minister which restricted the use of police or pre-charge bail in England and Wales the home secretary pretty Patel has set up proposals which would travel the length of time suspects can be given bail for and ensure it's used where there are assessed to be risks to victims witnesses and the public the number of new cars sold last month by 7.3 percent despite sales of electric vehicles nearly doubling this is size of Motor Manufacturers and traders said $11700.00 fewer You cars were registered in January than during the same month in 2019 it blamed a fall in sales on the confusion over diesel and clean air zones and weaker consumer confidence Susan thank you a cruise is meant to be the dream holiday of a lifetime that has probably changed for the 2600 passengers on board the Diamond Princess of Japan they would all be confined to their cabins for the next fortnight because at least 10 people on board the ship of tested positive for coronavirus the $1100.00 crew have also been quarantined and the ship is floating off Yokohama I spoke to David Abel and his wife Sally who love the 1st part of their holiday until this happened the captain made the announcement at 6 30 am to say that it's 10 passengers at proved positive for the coronavirus they have been waken off the ship by the local Coast Guard and we are told that they are now in a medical facility we were told when the announcement was made the captain said we have been instructed by the Japanese health horse already were you are on the ship right now return immediately to your cabin and do not leave your cabins you are all going to be in quarantine for 14 days are you in your cabin now yeah absolutely How long have you been there. All day when all at out we cannot open the door and walk around the ship we are not allowed outside the cabin and are you not allowed to leave your cabin for 14 days correct how do you feel about that . Well I don't feel too bad about it because we've got a rather nice cabin with a bow Carney so we can open the door during the day time and have fresh air and if the weather is good we can sit on the balcony and joy the view and the sunshine the passengers the are getting the really bad deal of those of got the inside cabins where they've got no natural light and no fresh air and say Well food and water is being delivered to your cabin it was supposed to be a luxury cruise Well it was it was a fabulous Cruise can't complain about the ship or the food the entertainment it's been brilliant but most definitely the cruise has ended and we are now similar to being prisoners if you lie because we are confined to our cabin the food that we have enjoyed for 2 weeks it has been fantastic Aleko every mail now we are not getting any choice of food it's pretty basic Are you able to communicate with all the other passengers only those that you know so when we go on the balcony I can talk to my next door neighbors and on the deck that involve us but we can't talk with anybody else that we don't know so for instance during the cruise we were sitting on the dining table in the evenings with the same people and we all got on very very well so we got their e-mail address Facebook details so we are in communication mainly via Facebook every day on and off throughout the day how are they coping and how are they coping. Well 2 of the ladies are not coping at all well because they're smokers and the Japanese health or Thora he said that no smoking was to be permitted on the ship and they really are strong smokers you know before the meal and have go and have a cigarette straight after the meal that be out have a cigarette and they're climbing the walls they really are climbing the walls of her home and are you getting any more information about whether anybody else is coming down with the virus. As it stands right now there's been no further announcement about passengers health I would expect Now this is speculation but I think it's an educated speculation that within the next 5 days I would expect every passenger will be checked by the quarantine people again and I know you both a bit nervous I mean if either of you have coughed today you must have thought about it I'm not concerned I'm anxious not about contracting the virus because we'll be well taken care of who are after we are sure that occasion happened but my anxiety is more about the family at home and our 2 that Yorkie dogs and this ship are you Dr alongside the harbor we have been the dogs they Port Authority will not allow us to dock so we've been on the anchor in the middle of the ballet for the last 2 days. And the ship is running low on water not drinking water but the water for the showers having a bath and water in the taps and so on they make their own water through the salinisation process they've got on board so they have to go out to sea for the salinisation processing to work and we are now returning to Yokohama where we are being allowed to dock for the ship to take on extra provisions and what then you also have to go out again to see for the same process yeah what do you most worried about it given the days that you have cooped up just the 2 of you what are you most worried about and from the days ahead. I'm not worried honestly I'm really not I always make the best of every opportunity this is something we never wish upon ourselves but we just take it as it is and we'll deal with it in the best way we can my biggest concern on board this ship is having food that I can enjoy and Sally can you talk to your wife Sally how what are you worried about. Well obviously getting hurt I mean I don't like the fact that I feel like a prisoner but. No nothing in particular we somebody made a comment earlier about they didn't know how they'd be able to cope in the cab in took 14 days together they might kill each other well we won't do that we've been together a long time so put up with each other but it's. Be you must be a bit fearful of going stir crazy and just finding enough things to do with your time. Well we have a large you know we have a t.v. We have a load of movies that we can watch. Take he's going to his knees we're the invader when I greet so ever we will be fine whoa whoa we really will have Dave and Sandy able. To make contact again is that quarantine goes on Professor Callum Semple is an expert in Outbreak medicine at University of Liverpool is also a member of the expert committee that advises the chief medical officer and Department of Health on new and emerging respect tree viral threats Professor Good afternoon good afternoon sir I mean in one sense I suppose a cruise ship is pretty easy to quarantine what does it tell us though about the spread of this disease it's absolutely the right action to be taking by the Japanese authorities there's a very long history of Corinth tuning ships as they come into court if they're carrying infectious diseases and it can be a very effective method well preventing disease entering a port city I'm township or city is because of the ships another. Tourists and pub activities in there it's a perfect place to spread the virus so their actions are absolutely correct it's also remarkable the fortitude resilience been shown by Sally and Dave I think that's the spirit are all hoping for that this is of course day one for them not day 13 into their minds of press but by then as we're probably can see the exit. The difficulty though with all these decisions whether it's a ship or for example the Foreign Office advice now that British people in the whole of China if they can should come back to the u.k. What it was that was that the right advice. It's a different it's a different issue the issue in China is one of a humanitarian issue for the British the British citizens there and we're starting to see challenges in health care provision. So therefore if people. Can couldn't selves into a better safer position that's also a good idea in the British government has a responsibility to do that but the challenge is going to be accommodating these people when they come back to the u.k. Because if they do come from a risk area. There's likely to be an expectation that they will self isolate and there's going to be limited capacity to do that there's only so many blocks of nursing accommodation that can be repurposed for this right so it's for fear of their treatment their all their ability to get treatment there that they should come home but it does create the. Necessary treatment it's actually the basics of food water societal stability what tends to happen is you get a breakdown in normal provision so it's not simply just health care it's can you get baby food can you get. Can can you be safe in our society and if if people are being forced to stay in buildings that's not something that could be comfortable for many British ships at sea for a living out there doesn't it increase the chance of spending the virus if they come back then yes that's that is the risk and that's why I would expect to see action similar to those taken for their return needs to be replicated say what anybody coming back from China will need to get into 14 day quarantine I can't I can't prejudge what decisions will be made but in the earlier stages of an outbreak these would be the reasonable actions to take there comes a point for it's it loses its effectiveness once you get disseminated spread within a community but so far the authorities have been incredibly successful at limiting spread and we have not seen sustained onward transmission in Europe or America mainly because the right public health message methods have been taken so. Isolation and quarantine at this point is worthwhile doing that that could change in 3 weeks time if in 3 weeks time we've got stained on richest mission in Europe that becomes less valuable to quarantine because essentially the cat's out the back Professor Callum Semple thank you very much now coming up on the program we'll be talking to Jim knocked he in the States about what a gauge the dark or Susan merged as a possible challenger to President Trump to get in touch on social media hash tag is b.b.c. . Email address if you want to contact us wild at one at b.b.c. Dot co dot uk a. Now the need government consultation launched today is about whether it should be a criminal offense rather than a civil one to watch or stream the b.b.c. Without paying the compulsory license fee but that's not all it is about since the arrival of the Internet mobile devices and viewing on demand are listening and watching habits have changed beyond recognition the media regulator Ofcom said this week that a quarter of all children don't watch any live broadcast television at all it's one of the reasons that when she launched today's public consultation the culture secretary Nick Nicky Morgan said it was time to think about the whole way the b.b.c. Is funded and whether there should even be a license fee of the negotiations for the next license fee settlement the mid term charter of you will take place between 20222024 this will look at the B.B.C.'s governance and regulatory arrangements and ahead of the next charter reprocessed we were under take a detailed look at the future of the t.v. License model itself the license fee will remain in place for this charter period which ends in December 2027 however we must all be open minded about the future of the license fee beyond this point. If the license fee changes the b.b.c. Is funded in the same way as other broadcasters either from subscriptions like Netflix or from advertising like i.t.v. What happens to the public service commitments that it has the culture secretary confirmed that the government was looking at redefining who in what is a public service broadcaster or p.s.p. In an age of x. And streaming the p.s.p. System including i.t.v. Channel 4 channel 5 as well as s.t.v. In Scotland n s 4 c. In Wales provides a wide range of benefits to the u.k. To our culture often and to our democracy. Peers bees remain popular with audiences but peers b. Business models including the B.B.C.'s must adapt and as the world around us changes our laws and regulations must change too in this age of absent on demand streaming services our concept of public service broadcasting should extend beyond just linear t.v. Channels of Commerce stated the public service broadcasting is now at a crucial juncture I think that it believes the time is now right for government parliament regulators and industry to consider the need for a new framework for Public Service media in a deal reached with a government some years ago the b.b.c. Will be taking on the costs of free television licenses for the over $70.00 five's and it decided that in June this year they could no longer be free for all but should be means tested the culture secretary announced today that the government would introduce a new flexible payment scheme called the simple payment plan to help those who are struggling to pay the b.b.c. Media editor Amol Rajan told me the government's move on decriminalizing nonpayment would be popular I think a lot of people would find in do you think it's kind of mad that yes in 201-812-1000 people got criminal records because they failed to pay something which is to a lot of people affected your tax it's a tax because it's a compulsory payment and if you don't have a good crew record the b.b.c. Say the only points. Percent of court time goes on this but the fact is 5 people went to jail in England and Wales in 2018 because of this and a lot of people think that's not only outrageous but that if you move to something a bit more like a civil procedure where if you pay a utility bill for instance you get a slap on the wrist and a fine that be not only a but he's a cool time but more

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