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It is hypocritical that it's Ok for people from Northern Ireland to follow Bush and just as long as they're in England manager forms could also see the 1st same sex weddings in Northern Ireland early next year a man has been arrested on suspicion of murdering 217 year old boys in Milton Keynes that was stabbed to hell spotty late last Saturday Facebook says it's removed 4 separate networks of fake it kills which deliberately misled users the believed to be based in Iran and Russia Facebook says the use false propaganda and using attack including attacks on President Trump Israel and Saudi Arabia and electric cars could have special dream numberplates the idea from the government's part of plans to offer incentives so she's free parking the use of bus lanes. New snake Harrison has the support United recorded their most impressive win since returning to the Premier League as least most sets 1st half goals enough to give them a 10 win at home to Arsenal a victory season move into the Premier League's top half or defeat season asked almost out of a place in the top 4 non-league chooses a city where the club to receive a bye to the 2nd round of the f.a. Cup the atheist side who get the buy because of Barry's removal from the competition also receive the 36000 pounds prize money that they have said they will make a donation to the organization involved with the continuation of Barry Lopez all have 7 players on the shortlist for the Ballon d'Or verge of on Dyke heads the list which also includes study a man I and most solemn Manchester City have 5 or top them have 2 on that list Christian or another and Messi both have been nominated to all England's Lucy bronze and Alan White to make the women's list Gary Rau it is the new manager of Millwall he replaces Leon Harris who resigned earlier this month and miles of call of Cardiff Blues went only in lane to their rugby World Cup squad back row Josh innovate he has been ruled out of Sunday semifinal against South Africa because of injury this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on digital b.b.c. Sound smart speaker. Looking with Sunny spans for England and. Windy for Scotland. Today of 12 in Stornoway 15 for London. That's life spoke to Mr Leask. Champions League. Central. Against. Station 5 life. On am and f.m. Around the u.k. On digital and on life sharp were up all night Canada's prime minister Justin Trudeau learned to its cost price of a high social media profile about halfway through the Canadian general election anyone forget Time magazine discovered prime minister as a young schoolteacher attending an Arabian Nights' fancy dress party in blackface and wearing a jewel. Whispered softly It appears the Canadian like. And an hour after polls closed the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. Liberals are on course to win but here's the rub as a minority government will have the balance of power and warts with a much stronger showing by the party of independence from Quebec. Abortion was decriminalized in Northern Ireland at midnight the law on same sex marriage is also due to change the 1st gay wedding cake can be cut. In January and the u.k. Government will sort out abortion regulations by April up to now abortions only been allowed in Northern Ireland of a woman's life was at risk or if there was a danger of permanent and serious damage to her physical or mental health or has been suspended for the last 2 and a half years the northern I'll do the same play was recalled for a special pleader a by unionists who opposed liberalisation but it didn't have any effect as nationalists continue to oppose the election of a new speaker Belfast journalist and author of On Fenton gave me her sense of Northern Ireland public reaction in Northern Ireland overwhelming majority of the population are in favor of both abortion and same sex marriage been legalized and kind of depends on different polls between bites and 72 percent want to see the law as cheating so it's very much something which has public support shared and but essentially because of how I can make an issue of politics Northlanders that in order to pass legislation it has to have them support from the big you know this party and also the big national party it's not just a simple majority and the D.P.'s been using their b. 2 to block respectively since sex marriage for for quite a while and so. It kind of the laws have been passed us not because of pressure of lack of public appetite and c I think most people kind of do welcome it though that there is about 15 to 20 percent population here you very strongly opposed to any changes and as that was taken so long because of the strength of opposition among you know that 20 percent. And yes and I think as essentially that the only reason why that the law has changed now is because there is no government Stroman to the has been a government from lists 3 years NY since January 2017 because they're partially airing arrangement between middy paean and since then collapsed and it's only because up that Westminster's decided to just step in and action so it's there is my lease tends to happen is because in July of this year. At Westminster decided to to step in and to change the laws message that was in the past is fact and you storm and wasn't working in Sr someone had to act to make decisions for people in Oregon in the mean time but I think it still might have still been in place it's still likely that the these laws were you wouldn't have to have changed since more of the commerce and if so is that less government by feel that isn't this the u.k. Parliament exercising as well in Northern Ireland and yes it is a term that would be used here be a director Oh and that's something which happened a lot during the troubles when things were so chaotic in North America that the government couldn't set a toll and so you know all the decisions made by London said it's the government in Belfast and because there's been no government for so long and we're going to think people are increasingly looking towards the London government to start taking more and kind of a directory approach and not just with things like abortion and same sex marriage but also on issues such as you know high seen or education and just in the back health care particularly because no one has been making sessions for more than 3 years now and starting to really affect public service as I think I say is a funny I mean in the seventy's direct rule was a bad word. And yes very much so and I think it's been a kind of a slew shift in attitudes of the last 3 years I think with people would've been very post-surgery of London making stations back the very beginning and people were very proud of storm and is one of the great elements of the peace process that things become so normalized that the d.p. Agency and could share parts together you know corporate data government decisions but I think there's you know unfortunate that just seems to completely collapse and there's a you know sign really that the government claimed perhaps for another year or another 2 or 3 years and people are very worried about how much longer no one can go on without a government and so I think these changes that are taking place night for abortions in sex marriage could perhaps just because start over perhaps greater intervention from Westminster think people would welcome that in a way that what a shocker I'm you know 2 or 3 years ago. You know the d.p. Find themselves on the losing side of this apparently they find themselves on the losing side of the Bracks at the bait at the moment to say what does this mean for the the future of the d u p a Northern Ireland. And yes I think Jeff in a very weak position at the minute because at the moment it very much appears that they have perhaps been let down or extra long by Boris Johnson in terms of the bags of data and then closer to home that some of this your flagship policies as it were of opposing abortion and same sex marriage and they have are going to be happening her guard list and that the 3rd issue which makes them very vulnerable is that and there's been a public inquiry taking place from was 2 years night into a scandal which their leader or in foster care led to a cash rash essentially a. Gross misspent in a public money and then card details are due to be published saying I think are in foster the least you know denied any wrongdoing whatsoever but it would be some concerns within the d.p. For her position as leader particularly could be very weak at the same time as brags that in these reforms competence actually means that from all angles I mean you know they're they're not gain by get me in might be stuck in check very vulnerable towards their best. Well talk about brags that yes the evening the government publishes 110 on a 15 page bill to turn the bricks they'll into law number 10 will ask M.P.'s to approve a proposal for a timetable for 3 days of intensive debate over worth troll agreement Bill our political correspondent Nick hardly has been telling me why the government had to publish for the simple reason that they couldn't get a yes or no to the deal but also it was always part of the plan that this 110 pages would come a some point with all the work I've got a copy here we've all been working our way through it tonight and basically what this does is say legally how the u.k. Leaves the European Union implements the arrangements that Boris Johnson agreed with the e.u. Last week he's doing it because he had hoped just to get a yes or no and you know approval for the deal or otherwise but because he didn't get on Saturday and the speaker would allow them to do it again on Monday the only way the government has last night is to get the legislation through so we can have 70 to 2 hours of extraordinarily tense reading of this and trying to figure out potential problems with that some M.P.'s are furious about that timetable Oh sure I mean they were hoping where if the government that has to give it a 2nd reading on Choose To cannot really go to a 2nd reading of M.P.'s have only just got all these dense pages in their hands Yes And you know all the signs are that it well the government will introduce later on choose the to be a voter and the more contentious part which is the timetabling over the idea that you scrutinise it Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday and then send it to the House of Lords on Friday that vote on the timing tabling could be quite interesting because opposition parties are furious at the lack of time they're being given. Some Tory M.P.'s privately as well are raising their concerns so be interesting to see if any of them break rank as well we know they are not happy with Boris Johnson at the moment so it's possible not in is likely but it's possible that the timetable could be voted die if that happens 5 1st of October just isn't happening because at that point Boris Johnson can Orcus legislation through in time to me breaks out happen by that deadline unless he hopes for a new deal so you know heis the stuff on Tuesday and even if the government does get through choose the unscathed and get the 2nd reading done and gets the timetable approved M.P.'s are going to spend the next few days attaching numerous conditions to this bill and trying add in a closer relationship to the European Union through something like a customs union trying to attach other conditions like a 2nd referendum approving the deal viruses remain potentially some other things as well so it's going to be a bumpy few days help us out because Aren't some people likely to saying well wait a minute didn't the ban I mean that no he sent the extension letter to Brussels it's up to Brussels to approve an extension and then Britain has to extend the period is that still not a cast iron certainty. Not yet because you don't want to get this deal done as well so if there is a saying over the next few days the Boris Johnson does have the numbers in parliament to get the legislation through and that act as you know basically an approval of the deal and therefore means that the government doesn't have to extend your it will play ball it won't I suspect it won't see anything concrete on an extension until it knows for sure whether or not this legislation is going to get through so either it is defeated on Tuesday are if it passes on Thursday it will have a rough idea of where things are going so no at the moment an extension isn't guaranteed because it's not being offered and the government still hopes it can do enough to avoid it is it fair to say that this document and this withdrawal agreement as a harder Breck set than trees or me is withdrawal agreement yes I think that's absolutely right there's there's no doubt the ball response is planning a more detached relationship with the European Union through a few trade agreement so that means there are things in this agreement that would not have been interested me so Boris Johnson isn't and as interested in coping standards on things like the environment and workers' rights there will be an option too to measure those all those deals but it's not necessarily going to be the same all in all that's one of the reasons that the Tory base tears got behind it because they think they can trust Boris Johnson to come up with something that isn't too close to the European Union that was their big feet under trees in May So that's why they're prepared to swallow some things like that customs border in the Irish sea. So is it in fact the case that if he gets a 2nd reading through of the government get a 2nd reading through on Tuesday that that will be an indication of future voting patterns on that that majority will hold and be enough for them to actually pass the withdrawal bill and in the given time fraud you know as well as I do nothing is that simple and. I had to ask. Basically if it gets through 2nd reading to morrow is a good sign for the government I'm sure the chalked up as a victory but it's far from simple because what will happen is a say over the next few days is the opposition parties will try and attach a bunch of conditions to some which would effectively kill Boris Johnson's deal if M.P.'s vote for a customs union that's not Boris Johnson's deal so the government really extraordinarily hard to take this deal any farther than it had gone saw choose the in trash thing in the sense that will get a sign for whether or not the deal is dead but even if the government does get through choose the fear Lee unscathed it doesn't mean that it is done and the still plenty opportunity for Mr Hoover the next few days. Macaire. Well if you're an Australian newspaper reader you got a surprise a small annoying when your paper dropped or when you picked it up because the front page was all blacked it was redacted. At the top just to make the point a big red thing said secret you may remember that in June we reported on police raids on the Australian Broadcasting Corporation the home of a News Corp Australia journalist both of which created a huge backlash this protest by the papers is aimed at national security laws which journalists say have stifled reporting and created a culture of secrecy in a still young my fedora and us political reporter with a.b.c. Hello Matthew. Pretty dramatic that the a.b.c. Join and how could the A.B.C.'s pose compete with this yeah that's right it is a concerted effort by the major media companies you know Straley b i b say doesn't have a newspaper we. Redacted front page but certainly the public broadcaster as joined with some of our other broadcasting colleagues and running. Very distance on it you know calling on the government to change its. Nationals. Broadly the issue of. The Navy as a whole and now campaigning against I think a lion as is choking up on us I'm sad to say to my surrogate that the i.v.c. Out. I think we might try to get Matthew back if that would be possible say we can get him back in a different light but see we'll be back with the paper blackout in a stallion just a minute but let us go to Canada where we are. Going to talk about the elections because about an hour ago in Vancouver the last polls closed and Canada's next government is taking shape or at least its next parliament to staking shape and it looks as if Justin Trudeau is going to be back as prime minister although it's going to be much different we're joined from Vancouver by just tender City hello to attend. I don't know how you say good very good well results are coming in hot and heavy here you of course are the tail end of results on the west coast That's right 6 times a touch screen 38 constituencies Well 2nd largest country. To exercise elections increase their support so he's hoping that the n.d.p. His party will hold the balance of power. The other significant bloc who could hold considerable power in a coalition government or at least a. Supply and demand type arrangement is the pluck to pick wa but they have a rather radically different sort of. Politics to those of the Liberal Party of Justin Trudeau they. Require doing remarkably well back course where else. But at the patent should they I mean why why have the blockade Marquardt come back. So the bloke. That number one they they went through a succession of different leaders but now they have. A leader who is considerably more. Sort of a popular a former t.v. Host the Francois. Who. Has seems to have galvanized the movement and they do very often talk necessarily about separation but they they're all about protecting the back and its French identity from outside influence and one of the. Really tricky things that they introduced was a bill which proved. Anybody wearing any kind of religious symbol whether that is a hit job or indeed a turban from holding public office so that it is somewhat counter to the families of Justin Trudeau the Liberal Party and indeed many Canadians who see themselves as progressive. If if Mr Churchill falls just short of the Liberal Party fall just short of the seats they need for the majority one what might the reason be. Because Mr goal you know in the party in 2001 were a terrible black face or is there a bit more to it. It's it's very interesting because many people deliver. The final result is. Liberals are so leading conservatives and we'll see in a couple of hours ago what the final score looks like thank you very much. Let's return to the interview in a stereo where Matthew Duren of a.b.c. Was was telling us about the the new difficulties that journalists have been having in reporting their reaction which culminated in a redacted front page of most every newspaper in Australia did anybody not take part Matthew. Most of the major newspapers did take this can tie actually all of them I think and that led to some saying the. Senate is from the opposition holding up the front covers and brandishing the match members of the government and also we had Senate estimates hearing gone which is an opportunity for members of parliament to grill a new public servant about what they had been up to and it just happened that the commissioner of these travelling Federal Police was appearing before one of those committees that morning as trick was confronted by the shadow or harm affairs minister who asked whether or not he same the front covers of the nation's major newspapers and in Dade was his response was It was certainly something that catches the attention of those of us in column and house and. Political debates for much of the government fended off accusations that was not properly standing out for the Independent and the freedom of the press which it met with a response to jesting that lived in opposition but when they were in government as well had also been engaging in the same behavior in addictively this was the case of the pot calling the kettle black and what ways has the precedence jail you been having its hands tied. Well effectively if we look at the. Situation that led to the Sterl

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