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The party secured 480 to 59 possible seats in the news for the 1st time in every major n.d. Department in England House fail to hit its 4 hour waiting time targets according to n.h.s. Figures all $118.00 units fell below the 95 percent threshold last month and in the u.s. Congressional committees voted in favor of impeaching President Trump he denies abusing his position and obstructing Congress it moves the process towards a full House vote this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on digital b.b.c. Salvage small street guy come up and look at the end $53.00 closed on the site southbound junction 4 Babington to 5 Eastern with Q spotted 3 at what church lorries of a ton spilling diesel the m $62.00 it's the wet weather causing the problems floodwater 2 lanes closed westbound 19 at Heywood to 18 and some has died and when it meets the m 60 and you got the queues but to 22 at risk with more long delays on the m 62 westbound away from the m 6012 to 11 about what an accident one length closed on the m one in no time to train northbound 15 a a toast to an accident blocking a lane the m 40 has 3 lanes closed it's down to one lane northbound between 2 and 3 at Loudwater that's for a budget and 25 on the clockwise side junction 14 at Heathrow the breakdown is gone the queues about to 13 queues on the clockwise m 25 after the Q e 2 bridge backing up to 30 at Lakeside because of another breakdown and the entry on the southbound side junction to the m $25.00 a break down is a car one length closed recovery underway one to much and travel for a year. Later Christmas already would be a busy one for the road trip a call the midwife or we're going to the hotel it reduces things we do to promote the health of it is a bit of drama on Albert Square someone must've been frustrated to the struggle of the falling into the Christmas festival fun with Michael McIntyre. Was covered and there Gavin and Stacey cooking to. Peaceful. Christmas on c.b.c. This is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on the b.b.c. Sounds 5 yard drive with our foster I'm sorry let's say good evening welcome to drive on the day after the night before last night's was a historic nights in British politics and I still digesting it here I'm out of foster I mean Stockton south in the northeast of England just one of the c.t.f. Which turned believe there was some way that the last night if you were watching those 1st results trickle in the very 1st hit came with valley which turned from Labor to conservative early last night one of those moments where you get a collective gasp This is a coal mining community the kind of place where the all those passed on labor voting to Soames mothers to do it says the red runs through people's blood and yet the balloon way has swept through the bill they see slight Northwest while lower paid called the labor m.p. Who lost his seat was to to be a feature of the Conservative party places like red card but the steelworks closed down in 2015 states and mating the town that happened under a Conservative government and to date red card has a conservative m.p. And places like they stopped in South where I used to live and what is really useful tonight is that this part of the country doesn't necessarily have any any affection any. Relationship with the Conservative Party I have my children in hospital which is where you go if you live here eighties old it has seen better days it was supposed to be replaced but the replacement was one of the 1st big infrastructure projects that was cancelled by the coalition government in 2010 people here have known conservative bad times they will tell you that and yes . And yet yesterday they went out in that drives and they voted for the Conservative party boy is that I've been here on the streets all day today since the dark and the cold at 7 o'clock this morning and people have told me 2 things one they don't feel the Labor Party under Jeremy cool been. Represented to many people it didn't feel like Labor heartland politics to them anymore and also Bracks they don't get hit the breaks it by saying area people need to see bricks that delivered and the message that simple message from Boris Johnson repeated over and over again the rights they get breaks they've done that cut through here and I don't think even the Conservative Party themselves believes that they would wake up this morning and seeing the balloons sweeping across the map a.f. In the Northeast and the way it has never done before. Yes I am a ditto here in Burma really decades of political history of going out the window but John Jones was the m.p. Here from 59 to 7920 years pay to park followed him from 83 to a one a team his library pays it held the seat since apart from a very brief hiatus for the Liberal Democrat side something I today have not heard in 10 years at 5 Live you know those phrases you don't hear of 5 live on the bus and I'll get around on a warning sign and there's nothing happening at Clark Atlanta services you never hear those things today I was in my car heading to Westminster heading to the railway station and they rang and said stop the car turning around the store is not in Westminster it's in Burnley So that's why I'm home in my local pub the personally because personally he's gone but the only blue button is in the football shirt car a blue Burnley's gone blue for the 1st time in a 109 years we're going to hear. From the guy who took it from Labor very short yeah we're going to hear on the program tonight is Tony saying what it's like to be a surprise new and pay out Will he was well. About what it's like to lose your seat your job and the place that you grew up the place that you love when people just don't vote for you anymore really getting into the skin of it for you tonight here on Dr I don't 650 seats have now been declared the conservatives have ended up with 365 of them a chance late to a majority of a.c.i.m. This morning it might have Boris Johnson went to Buckingham Palace where the Queen asked him to form the next government it and attend to Downing Street at about 3 o'clock this afternoon where he spoke to the country in these moments often said the time for a Prime Minister's time in office say hey we disempower this morning I I went to Buckingham Palace and I am forming a new government and on Monday M.P.'s will arrive at Westminster to form a new parliament and I'm proud to say that members of a new one nation government a people's government will sit tight from constituencies that have never returned a conservative m.p. For a 100 years and yes they will have been able I mean mandate from this election to get breaks it down and we will honor that mandate by John Reid the 31st and so in this moment of national resolution I want to speak directly to those who made it possible and to all those who voted for us for the 1st time and those whose pencils may have waited over the ballot and you heard the voices of their parents and their grandparents whispering anxiously in their areas I say thank you for the trust you've placed in us and in me and we will work round the clock to repay your trust and to deliver on your priorities with a parliament that works for you and then I want to speak also to those who did not vote for us over me. And you wanted and perhaps still want to remain in the e.u. And I want you to know that we in this One Nation Conservative government will never ignore your good and positive feelings of warmth and sympathy towards the other nations of Europe because now he's the moment precisely as we leave the e.u. To let those not true feelings find renewed expression in building a new partnership which is one of the great projects for next year and as we work together with the e.u. As friends and sobering equals in tackling climate change and terrorism in building academic and scientific cooperation redoubling our trading relationship . I frankly urge everyone on either side of water up to 3 years 3 Nokia's of 0 and increasingly I read argument I urge everyone to find closure and to let the healing begin. Because I believe in fact I know as I've heard it loud and clear from every corner of the country that the overwhelming priority of the British people know is that we should focus above all. On the n.h.s. . That simple and beautiful idea that represents the best of our country with the biggest ever cash boost 50000 more nurses 40 new hospitals as well as providing better schools safer streets and in the next few weeks and months we will be bringing 4 proposals to transform this country with better infrastructure picture education better technology and if you ask yourselves what is this new government going to do what are you going to do with the extraordinary majority I will tell you that is what we are going to do we are going to unite and level up unite and level up bringing together the whole of this incredible United Kingdom England Scotland Wales Northern Ireland together taking us forward unleashing the potential of the whole country delivering opportunity across the entire nation and since I know that after 5 weeks frankly of electioneering this country deserves a break from wrangling a break from politics and a permanent break from talking about bricks it I want everyone to go about their Christmas preparations happy and secure in the knowledge that here in these people's government the work is now being stepped up to make 2020 a year of prosperity and growth and hope. And to deliver a parliament that works for the people. Thank you all very much but happy Christmas thank you. Well Happy Christmas Eve. As we hear the cheers in the background you happy Christmas not for the Labor Party they are devastated today just 203 and pays going into the next parliament already a party seemingly divided over what cools one of the worst results on record some say it's down to breaks it down to the leader Jeremy Corbyn he was asked earlier what he'll be resigning I was elected to lead the party and I said responsible thing to do is not to walk away from the whole thing and I won't do that I will stay here until there is spin somebody elected to succeed me and then I will step down at that point do you think that Coburn ism is dead. It's not it's not coldness and there is no such thing as coldness and there is socialism there is social justice there are radical manifestos all of which there. Are No I don't think they are and what I think they don't want to do this election ultimately. Will Not everybody agrees with that including people who were until very recently some of Jeremy cool but his own Labor M.P.'s You see don't you on election night people get upon the stage as the cow there's the triumphant winner and often they raise the Lusa they lose their job they deal with defeat of what happens next where you know we like to take you under the surface here and drive so why would to see today Phil Wilson he is the former Now Labor m.p. Tony Blair was his predecessor said Field was a safe safe Labor seat 25000 majority back in 1997 I went to see Phil Wilson of his home in the constituency with his family ruminating on the day after the night before and I asked him 1st of all if you actually had any sleep and got to bed at 6 and I was up at 9 sort of a 3 hour slaves I couldn't really sleep because you just everything's going through your mind about the big meeting about the 6 week camp in and about this or Paloma and and all the issues that you've got to deal with. Could you do anything differently. But with the obstacles I got in the where and it's Bus suppose it's just like anybody else or loses the job you know that. You've got to you've got to think the reasons why and also the consequences I think for May is well thought because of what happened last night you know that the Tories win a landslide this is going to be a lot of communities like the ones I represent a group to put up with the Tory government for 5 years and in this general election a definitely believe the people who are voting against things and won't necessarily vote for things. Sore things might be completely different in 5 years time we will do it and say but it's you know these. He's a whole host of things of course are you mind when you were a group after 3 I was like let's get into it I mean it you said that it's a Tory government it's a Tory government that people chose him in such failed why do you think you lost. The big issues for me on the doorstep I mean this is a Leave area. People are well a well aware of my position on Bracks it which is you know what triggered Article 50 to get through a process on the road we've got now to. Dale's which out basically said to the government that I would support them as long as it went back to the people fall. For the final set so I knew what prominent in that you know you you with Peta Col you had an amendment in your name you know you really you put yourself out that would give you some generally done by doing not and it's one of the things I'm actually proud of of trying to get this over the line. And not many politicians involve an amendment you know succumbing to them to offer them after them but and you don't regret that you know I do want to know the reason why I mean Peter would say it is. When we were thinking about it actually if this got through we could actually be facilitating Breck's it be the endorsement of the British people because the people do have the right to compare any jail with what was promised and now we've now got Boris Johnson's table the was nor debate in this general election campaign about the wording this of the lot of thought of that deal and you would ask people on the doorstep what you think of the do what's in the Dail How do you think it's going to benefit you and there was a lot of. There was not much of a discussion because it's never been debated during this general election campaign was it just cracks that well when I said blacks it. Nor the leadership of the party is and this is the breaks it election it polarized people have pricks it does polarize people but I don't want anybody to run away with the idea that the deciding factor in this election was breaks it because on the doorstep for every one person that aren't caught bringing in raising taxes or maybe my approach that breaks that there was 5 people who said the problem with that you've got is the later the Labor Party. Any you ask any candidates live a candidate in this election you didn't see a light rise for that course that you would see especially in the north of England then he didn't do much cumbersome so what did they say why why didn't they like him I think it's not just about the individual it's about the worldview it's the it's the view that he projected into the political arena which Him For me it was on the west he was all the stuff that came out in the doorstep about Hamas about I was below the ira things that you didn't expect to be wrist but was thrown back. And you know it's also the competency factor because not see him as the prime minister of this country and when you've got. This on virtually every door you know it's a problem and it was a problem a 2007 thing and you know what the people about chance to take another 2 years look at them but you must have I mean people said that he will the doorstep you must have pushed back what did you say in reply because you will that to say Vote for me vote for Labor So how do you temper that the way you term but it was was it was to be honest you know I mean you must know what you said yes I agree he's not competent Well what I would set to people on the doorstep is what I've basically said in 2017 which is basically I'm for liberal not for carbon to be and you said that to people I would say about the people I wasn't the only candidate who said because you know one of the reasons for this general election to get to the other side of it was to actually try some of the party out because there is a major disconnect between the Labor Party yes it is today and the people who vote Labor and they don't feel that present Labor Party represents them probably and that is why we got you know we ended up in the position where we've lost God knows how many states and overnight I mean throughout this 6 week campaign and you've been out there every day at some point you must have gone back to the leadership and said this is playing badly on the doors I mean did you feed that back did you tell them how badly it was going to the regional level Party knew what the issues were and you know and they were picking it up not just from a vote from everybody else but he's the leader of the Liberal Party and. We have to work with him not confined and I think what we've got to be careful of going forward is to say that yes it's Jeremy called him but that became short on for like I said the world view which is on the West he didn't say them is capable of being you know didn't see him as being capable of being the prime minister that we would like to say leading the lid. A party and also it was all about economic competency the manifesto to simply be a wish list you know so you ended up finding one so many on so many sides but it you know it became an it became impossible do you blame Jeremy cool open for you losing you'll see what. Is the leadership. German called him as leadership but also like I said the worldview that was propagated by him and his followers So what was it his fault that you lost you'll see I would have I would have thought yes but not just got but the issues that he was propagating the policies that were propagating we're not seeing to be part of mainstream really about so yeah I would say about him and the people around him on the leadership of the party lost to us a hell of a lot of states last night as he contacted you today you know on the thought he would Has anybody from the top of labor contacted you today no no. No contact from anybody within the original organizers have done a brilliant job under the circumstances been in touch Jeremy Corbin said this morning that he he was going to he wouldn't lead labor into another election but he would stay around to have a period of reflection to work out what should happen next was that the right thing to do or should he have resigned this morning when the scale of Labor's defeat became apparent. If he said he's not going to stand at the next election that's still going to ultimately could be your own for 5 years my question is just on when you live with votes do you want to lose. This is going to be brought to a head to soon as possible and we've got to discover a new direction for the Liberal Party which is in that the send left it British politics that resonates with ordinary traditional Liberal voters and the 3 things I think we need to focus on is the fact that we are a party of pleasure to some that we believe that the 1st duty of any government is to defend the quinta and its people that we need a new economically responsible. Economic policy where aspiration is at the center of it where we do believe in the funding of public services but in a responsible manner and thirdly it's a ball culture culture within the Labor Party whereby that if you disagree with the leadership but doesn't mean to say that you are never progress apparently. That is Phil Wilson the former Now Labor m.p. He said still that is how it feels for many many Labor M.P.'s today who have lost their seats they jobs to some of them their livelihoods but of course the important thing a study for every n.p.c. Who's lost a job today he get a new one he's just going to job. Yeah absolutely that that the battle for the soul of the Labor party is well and truly underway and I suggest that it's a constituency like this I'm in the center of but me and the probably cold weather going to have to come and speak to voters who've brought a Labor m.p. Back for a 109 years conservatives see but there is rare as unicorns there is rare as people in this

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