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Radio. 5 Live boxing and Joshua joins Mike Costello and Steve Bunce the day off the beating and the release in Saudi Arabia to reflect on the experience this is a pre recorded podcast The police don't text or cool or you can hear the poet in full. Sounds. B.b.c. Sounds music radio pod casts. But after an amazing wait in Saudi Arabia the last of 5 Live boxing with Costello bands comes to you from the fire tower high above the plush lawn where the way took place on Friday afternoon and here in the restaurant at the top of the tower we're joined by the man who almost 24 hours ago became a 2 time heavyweight champion of the world and today thanks for joining us thank you thank you know speaking to me for 2 weeks because some good books in and it's good to catch up after as well. Bill and you spoke with before. It's good to be back on the couch Yeah when you know tightening your 16th fine memorable night at Wembley again. How does this compare. To be number one but when I 1st won the title with Charles Martin I don't feel like I took in everything that was so Fausta and I'm still learning I'm still experiencing so much that I didn't really grasp what actually being a heavyweight champ of the war was about. Lost it and I saw from the other side of the corner Ari Mexico what it was like to be every chamber of the world and I want to bed so I can this time when even though I know shows you all work hard and you can't because there's people out there that's going to take from you I just know that like to be in every chamber of the world means a lot to myself and. A lot of people you know me so this for me will probably right close. If not just one. Across the 2 fights about yourself as a fighter and a man as a fire and as a man as a fighter. Maybe not to take. This especially level pressure on yourself. You have to really be if you want to stay champion for a long time because this should have been another defense will not become a 2nd to become a 2 time champion so often you can never taken apart a lightly you have to be 100 percent focused on the opponent and as a man I believe that I have to trust more news things as well. Things that I want to work on and. You know things I know that maybe we can do and I just have to speak with my coaches and express them really and we have to find those weaknesses and identify them so there are 2 things trust your own instincts and make sure you push your creativity for when you're working with people. And just understand what you're doing when you're doing it because once it's gone. Luckily I got it back by could have been really difficult to get it back so I'm just in a lucky position to be sitting there as. They seem to me from the outside looking in and again reflecting on my 1st fight that. It was a case last night if you fight your fight oh yeah fight the media's fight for the fans fight yeah the fight that you get 1st time I felt like. Because you said the found fight the media fight is the one it was a fight he went down he got out he went down and he got out. But enough for the found fight would be the fight. For me to fight for victory because there's nothing . The next day when it was a what happened what on Champ one yeah. That's more important to me going in there and slugging it out and leaving. The judges or a 5050 shot. For the main the main thing for me just to walk him be victorious and then they were saying it's Ok. I'm going to poor and that's more. Important for my fans to talk about than yeah he was doing great for 12 rounds and you just call in the last 10 seconds but. That's not good enough they want they want to know that I won and that was a main. Player. And they're going to try and take it back a little bit I wish I wish I could do. Stuff you know that they used to there was big in the ninety's so you'd look at me not Ok and they now just relax I want to take you back to June. Let's get back to 5 o'clock in the off the you know I'm going to take it back to Sheffield a couple weeks ago and you told us this put you on the spot a little bit Gloria to go out last night you wanted to for the 2nd time you got plenty of money printing glory everyone loves you we're going to watch you a question you promised us you do. You promised us want to. See you and help you out don't go away making excuses though that there was there was too that we did this to. Talk about. Some issue my health. Which I was going for a long time I didn't know what was wrong with me just felt like tired and drained and I just thought I must be down to training and then. When I see a $1000000.00. It was weird even in the changing room before the. House one of the guys can just get me a bucket of ice in the shop in my head. And you could see these type of things when I was in the ring. And the responsibilities of being a champion is difficult especially at such a stage. I had didn't have 20 when you fly in every other month it was just 16 fights and. Giving 90 the boats wasn't I was giving them away I really want to be a bridge over the wall but it was just. Me for 5 minutes so what type of stuff. Did you have an obligation and stuff like that so in addition to get rid of whatever that was medically and get rid of it yes totally different man now that you know not only what we said all week you look at the if a man but you're a different man because you're not the man now in 6 months or 7 months is going to go into a fire and say you know well just that the bill has been too much pressure going to happen again. Because of energy. I haven't missed a training session you know sometimes when you're in can you plan for a great free month so great a weeks 2 months there's always stuff they get in the way you get tired and whatever can happen but this time I went straight away fruit for good I'm hungry. The problem last time I. Just felt tired and now feel good and that's important for why it's a feel good happy 5 years ago fire if you felt like that this week would you have pulled out. Because I want to know what it was as tight as the training. Me So I just get inspired thinking if this guy is give a good enough shopping I'm going to collapse just to fly. And he shows a spirit me to fight for anything so you know even with the last fight and he just kept on hitting me in the back of my head and just dropping. Round I said no it was only me by shows and after my check ups and stuff the problem was and you want to saw it. Even in this camp I had an operation done at an operation and because I've been training since like June the 20th I had no issues with quite a bit myself saw it in. Having a few weeks or a cuppa and game but to train and that's what I mean so it's so important to stay active even when you're not training for a fight because of the pressure of anything that you may have to take care of during a training camp What was the operation. Never Said away. Questions. You might as well you might as well as yours in the job and he's going to be polite and kind of trying to make it and he says Ok where was your question. Was he was a surgeon and I remember I just wonder what some of the 2nd time around I was exhausted wanted him to. Be there. Not by me so I don't. Step back out of the. Back. And I'm already thinking about what's next and how soon it can be because I don't want to leave it to you. You know too far ahead and then anything happens in that period of time we just want to stay focused so where are we going next I mean I'm not unique He's been really different he's felt different you thinking about going somewhere else in the world but London but back in Finchley back in Sheffield at the books in my head down and. Writing a show us where the London probably Wembley and he mentioned. All over to us it's good to me and. In fear we couldn't possibly be to win. Against. Whatever. That what we're thinking in February. Stops me from flying so far so you go away to June or the wait how many months is 7 months if you could do you think is going to be difficult to hold. On to all 3 bells I think it's a cli if there is. One of the mind the trees provide an eye when one step at a time so they speak in the future but right now when they say. Who have a fight I would love to fight the winner of that fight so they can have there's a fair ground around March watch late March just off to them and then the winner of them to. The winner me and the friend in my toes again. And then when I will fight next year and then another fight would you like 3 fights my idea well would you like 34 Yeah I don't know how quick you can turn around the shows I would definitely continue to fight. With you like Yeah you know what you were saying earlier on about how it was a release to not be world champion for a while yeah given how we were made pipe of you and a man of high concern then yeah I mean what you go to can you do 3 fi say yeah you know it's actually nice to say no sometimes not being the champion it was actually nice to say to and in the team like these guys want to do it in their own way to champion champion it was nice that you have a good time just focus on the flight I just say much even if I'm flying for a full time yeah I just gotta keep the same attitude is like Hold on guys that the books is the most important thing. Not my mouth talking and stay true to that please if you let me win this time I promise you all do really. Really think that I did you we did if you don't believe me go if you want to do it. In the. Public on a Linux has yet to fight the adrenaline was running you've challenged anybody out that it needs help reach out to me I know I mean your guy did I say that you say you know what it was I say that. I say that a lot of requests do come through so should you decide you are a role model you're someone appears a rebel to. The bank so people admittedly. People think that's a joke you know. And they've asked me about I said No I'm telling you go to the gym in Finchley down to the gym not going to be on a Wednesday afternoon. On a Wednesday. Because we train and I say that about 23 hours after anyway and now on the train in like for a fight sometimes I do the pads for the crosses and stuff but I would have kids and you know boxes and boxes of great sport you think they were affected by you not being champions. They root for me is hope you're you want to achieve what you see. In my gym before and they spoke about him being a champion and the ambition was to be a champion and then turn professional because we had us in the bar Luckily we went one above so if I can give some inspiration to the next kid in that gym imagine what I'm going to go on to achieve so we went to the Olympics championships this kid might be 2 time Olympic champion. And could a division whatever they desire as long as they can see it they can believe in achieve it so when it was taken away imagine I would go back and say look I tried so I just lose the motivation for these kids but if I go back and give them a talking to leave those boats in the gym for them to see that will spark some thinking one of those kids are going to do something special for me yeah I think it will well they're waving at us again. Coast. And if the lot of them. They move. Or the boys fights before i Books. Because they're always phenomenal hit and don't get hit the whole performance was of. Importance your game was to them as well yeah you know you get them but they look up to you go down they would say listen you. Get you know make you wait. Too late I made a mistake and go to deliberate It's a novel way another 4 years get it right. Ah because 77 pounds of the mix Yes. He did the. Thank you any news on to his next media commitment here in the restaurants. Where they took place on Friday as I said earlier. And he had to say. Straight to the point. That the Premier Mike. We could afford a blanket over him didn't the lights private chat that we wish everybody Ed and I could have honestly. I'm glad we didn't talk to him too much about the fly because we saw that last night we lived it and I'm pleased we pushed him a little bit on the situation going to read about that as you heard if you listened you heard people shouting from the for from the sides in the book the book. There was a moment there when I was a little bit maybe that maybe the 1st. Fear when you were going to really really. Did. And I don't know what they could no longer run you know 110 seconds while doing. What sounds like to me yeah the relentless nature of training and training and training and stress as well all the time thinking about the next big race the next big event coming up in his. Sense the next big fight coming up that Richie would only gave you a huge. Fight wake. Him generally said we passed discussing the fight now but just his general demeanor champion again well. I think we all recognize from the 1st contest that he wasn't present fits and then I think he's more or less saying that he wasn't 100 percent fit there was something wrong and you know obviously it's been put right now to present and he's before. So that just shows that he wasn't last contest yes I think I will obviously we got to bed. In the early I was lost we got back to the hotel. Going to my bed I literally although it was really really early in the morning I couldn't I couldn't sleep for about half an hour. Because the bag going through my head so. Must have been lying friends and just he probably hasn't gone to bed. And now it's catching up on him and that's what he looks like he has been neutral round. One of the princes one of the many princes they went out for some kind of sort of celebration now under the stars. Bedouin style sort of celebration music for drives and tents and stars and I'd like to embellish it more but you know it might be a complete invention but we're going to go there were found. There were. Camels and tights and. Celebrate beautiful. Not just looking at some of the I wouldn't call it backlash but some of the reviews of performance and dismissing it as boring and tedious and I was talking to. Today and it struck me that had Andy really cheering after winning the 1st fight not being tied in the contract to a rematch clause and just say for example he decided he didn't want any major rematch and he fights instead for massive money Tyson Fury and Tyson Fury. As a mosque craftsman that's not a dig. That's a fact. For producing that very same performance. As. He had. Back. In. One of the problems. With a.j. Is. You can only. Be a problem because he. Can be a problem because. Which he did last time. So. To keep his distance and to keep discipline. And carry out the game. Than is a physical contest always just as impressed. Last night but it was quite. We'd finished is that just. Could be and cools wall the real problem is that fluid concentrated box causes the problems and he causes Tyson Fury problems and it's interesting looking at the bookmakers reaction to Anthony Joshua's win last night he's still 2nd favorite against Tyson Fury and against the wall and fury would start favorite against him but he's almost even money in all of those contests so against Tyson Fury. Against Anthony Joshua Tyson Fury against all of those contests almost even money the pair of them with most of the the mind bookmakers So that tells you where we are now he's back on that Tom type but we're right back on that top title. On the cusp possibly how long we've been saying this but. You know when you see that those fights are where the week see them is 5050 or not the book Mike has actually have them as even money shots are virtually it's very very close to even money in all cases in those permutations and combinations so we could possibly over the next 2 years have this era that we've been so long talking about and he's talking about next coming back to London he said either at Tottenham or maybe even the looks like we are going to see Anthony Joshua's next fight in the u.k. And. I don't think Mark is going to be too far away because he wants to feel good facts and he knows each just about on a regular basis 3 times a year is the only thing he can do it. He's got the whole book and he wants to keep boxing because he knows he's boxing regular he's boxing us he's best deep down he knows that and one sentence from each of you is the 1st. Next I think it will be a guy like. Richie I would rule out want the. Might be next Dylan white women next year make sort of sense in a world you can't have cleared it why not I got. Perfect and talking about exotic staves as we wind down now from here in Saudi Arabia get set to move off to the airport your thoughts final thoughts on Awake mag in Saudi Arabia. It's been really long and hard not don't know why it's been so long and maybe it's the traffic maybe it's the just that we've stuck with and we've done everything like to take a lot of criticism. Social media for being a cheerleader for the Saudi Arabian regime we discussed it. And I'll put it to bed now. Absolutely time. The time we had the. Experience and the fight itself was great my it was a. Great event. Light your impressions impressions and never knew you could heard camels the way. That was annoy. Me which. I think is newbie to territory and the positive signs are taught from the actual show itself and the crowd was that was that they appreciated good bucks in. Cheers lots of people there and which is it which is a great song so I think we will be coming back here in the future to 2 more fights we've seen and not you have enjoyed the experience it's good people appreciate boxing and I have enjoyed it. Enjoyed the food the culture Yeah it's been nice and. Well. There was no drink there's no booze obviously here and people it was a good atmosphere people were part of balls they were. I'll call balls and that was nice to see it will behave themselves I thought it was a cracking show you know My were white and downstairs to come up it fans came across a guy from ball one came across and there were a couple of Londoners. Londoners I should learn that is a black guy from the Midlands in another village and they all said the same thing I'm prompted you know what I've missed the train was great last night all they all said the same thing that's been brilliant and to me Joshua still laughing in the background celebrating his victory almost 24 hours ago Irish if you could just pass that marker fine on to the fellow sat to your left have produced a jacket he's worked harder than all of us here this week Jack your final thoughts for Jackie last word. He's got Ocean Island just. Before a script. That sometimes I wrote down earlier it's going to be a long time. No what I was expecting. Things this of any sort of just start. To become aware of in terms of the way this is. You know for example in a book or. Table in a restaurant I was asked to fall on the single section of the family section so most restaurants it's men only the single section and then there's a special section for the family so I think I think we've had a different experience here being a group of men than if we've been a woman so it's kind of hard to talk about one thing that destroyed me as well just randoml