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Will be the semifinal opponent as he came from behind to be Ronnie O'Sullivan in the final frame decide on teenage ski is that we should Britain's faced will top haul pipe title in 5 years the 16 year old battled blizzard conditions to take victory in Colorado b.b.c. 5 live so so much it was a night to remember this conservative government that has been given a powerful mandate to the exceptional case of the s.n.p. . And nights to forget the party in any future general election campaign What's certain is that a new political era has time to deliver this promise much of. A positive signal that the thing is. It's disheartening it's very disheartening to take some of. The words that will follow our coverage of the repercussions of the election 2019 e.c. Radio. 5 Live boxing and Joshua joins Mike Costello and Steve Bunce the day off the beating and the release in Saudi Arabia to reflect on the experience this is a pre recorded podcast The police don't text or cool or you can hear the poet in full. Sounds. B.b.c. Sounds music radio pod casts. But after an amazing wait in Saudi Arabia the last of 5 Live boxing with Costello bands comes to you from the fire tower high above the plush lawn where the way took place on Friday afternoon and here in the restaurant at the top of the tower we're joined by the man who almost 24 hours ago became a 2 time heavyweight champion of the world and today thanks for joining us thank you thank you know speaking to me for 2 weeks because some good books in and it's good to catch up after as well. Bill and you spoke with before. It's good to be back on the couch Yeah when you know tightening your 16th fine memorable night at Wembley again. How does this compare. To be number one but when I 1st won the title with Charles Martin I don't feel like I took in everything that was so Fausta and I'm still learning I'm still experiencing so much that I didn't really grasp what actually being a heavyweight champ of the war was about. Lost it and I saw from the other side of the corner Ari Mexico what it was like to be every chamber of the world and I want to bed so I can this time when even though I know shows you all work hard and you can't because there's people out there that's going to take from you I just know that like to be in every chamber of the world means a lot to myself and. A lot of people you know me so this for me will probably right close. If not just one. Across the 2 fights about yourself as a fighter and a man as a fire and as a man as a fighter. Maybe not to take. This especially level pressure on yourself. You have to really be if you want to stay champion for a long time because this should have been another defense will not become a 2nd to become a 2 time champion so often you can never taken apart a lightly you have to be 100 percent focused on the opponent and as a man I believe that I have to trust more news things as well. Things that I want to work on and. You know things I know that maybe we can do and I just have to speak with my coaches and express them really and we have to find those weaknesses and identify them so there are 2 things trust your own instincts and make sure you push your creativity for when you're working with people. And just understand what you're doing when you're doing it because once it's gone. Luckily I got it back by could have been really difficult to get it back so I'm just in a lucky position to be sitting there as. They seem to me from the outside looking in and again reflecting on my 1st fight that. It was a case last night if you fight your fight oh yeah fight the media's fight for the fans fight yeah the fight that you get 1st time I felt like. Because you said the found fight the media fight is the one it was a fight he went down he got out he went down and he got out. But enough for the found fight would be the fight. For me to fight for victory because there's nothing . The next day when it was a what happened what on Champ one yeah. That's more important to me going in there and slugging it out and leaving. The judges or a 5050 shot. For the main the main thing for me just to walk him be victorious and then they were saying it's Ok. I'm going to poor and that's more. Important for my fans to talk about than yeah he was doing great for 12 rounds and you just call in the last 10 seconds but. That's not good enough they want they want to know that I won and that was a main. Player. And they're going to try and take it back a little bit I wish I wish I could do. Stuff you know that they used to there was big in the ninety's so you'd look at me not Ok and they now just relax I want to take you back to June. Let's get back to 5 o'clock in the off the you know I'm going to take it back to Sheffield a couple weeks ago and you told us this put you on the spot a little bit Gloria to go out last night you wanted to for the 2nd time you got plenty of money printing glory everyone loves you we're going to watch you a question you promised us you do. You promised us want to. See you and help you out don't go away making excuses though that there was there was too that we did this to. Talk about. Some issue my health. Which I was going for a long time I didn't know what was wrong with me just felt like tired and drained and I just thought I must be down to training and then. When I see a $1000000.00. It was weird even in the changing room before the. House one of the guys can just get me a bucket of ice in the shop in my head. And you could see these type of things when I was in the ring. And the responsibilities of being a champion is difficult especially at such a stage. I had didn't have 20 when you fly in every other month it was just 16 fights and. Giving 90 the boats wasn't I was giving them away I really want to be a bridge over the wall but it was just. Me for 5 minutes so what type of stuff. Did you have an obligation and stuff like that so in addition to get rid of whatever that was medically and get rid of it yes totally different man now that you know not only what we said all week you look at the if a man but you're a different man because you're not the man now in 6 months or 7 months is going to go into a fire and say you know well just that the bill has been too much pressure going to happen again. Because of energy. I haven't missed a training session you know sometimes when you're in can you plan for a great free month so great a weeks 2 months there's always stuff they get in the way you get tired and whatever can happen but this time I went straight away fruit for good I'm hungry. The problem last time I. Just felt tired and now feel good and that's important for why it's a feel good happy 5 years ago fire if you felt like that this week would you have pulled out. Because I want to know what it was as tight as the training. Me So I just get inspired thinking if this guy is give a good enough shopping I'm going to collapse just to fly. And he shows a spirit me to fight for anything so you know even with the last fight and he just kept on hitting me in the back of my head and just dropping. Round I said no it was only me by shows and after my check ups and stuff the problem was and you want to saw it. Even in this camp I had an operation done at an operation and because I've been training since like June the 20th I had no issues with quite a bit myself saw it in. Having a few weeks or a cuppa and game but to train and that's what I mean so it's so important to stay active even when you're not training for a fight because of the pressure of anything that you may have to take care of during a training camp What was the operation. Never Said away. Questions. You might as well you might as well as yours in the job and he's going to be polite and kind of trying to make it and he says Ok where was your question. Was he was a surgeon and I remember I just wonder what some of the 2nd time around I was exhausted wanted him to. Be there. Not by me so I don't. Step back out of the. Back. And I'm already thinking about what's next and how soon it can be because I don't want to leave it to you. You know too far ahead and then anything happens in that period of time we just want to stay focused so where are we going next I mean I'm not unique He's been really different he's felt different you thinking about going somewhere else in the world but London but back in Finchley back in Sheffield at the books in my head down and. Writing a show us where the London probably Wembley and he mentioned. All over to us it's good to me and. In fear we couldn't possibly be to win. Against. Whatever. That what we're thinking in February. Stops me from flying so far so you go away to June or the wait how many months is 7 months if you could do you think is going to be difficult to hold. On to all 3 bells I think it's a cli if there is. One of the mind the trees provide an eye when one step at a time so they speak in the future but right now when they say. Who have a fight I would love to fight the winner of that fight so they can have there's a fair ground around March watch late March just off to them and then the winner of them to. The winner me and the friend in my toes again. And then when I will fight next year and then another fight would you like 3 fights my idea well would you like 34 Yeah I don't know how quick you can turn around the shows I would definitely continue to fight. With you like Yeah you know what you were saying earlier on about how it was a release to not be world champion for a while yeah given how we were made pipe of you and a man of high concern then yeah I mean what you go to can you do 3 fi say yeah you know it's actually nice to say no sometimes not being the champion it was actually nice to say to and in the team like these guys want to do it in their own way to champion champion it was nice that you have a good time just focus on the flight I just say much even if I'm flying for a full time yeah I just gotta keep the same attitude is like Hold on guys that the books is the most important thing. Not my mouth talking and stay true to that please if you let me win this time I promise you all do really. Really think that I did you we did if you don't believe me go if you want to do it. In the. Public on a Linux has yet to fight the adrenaline was running you've challenged anybody out that it needs help reach out to me I know I mean your guy did I say that you say you know what it was I say that. I say that a lot of requests do come through so should you decide you are a role model you're someone appears a rebel to. The bank so people admittedly. People think that's a joke you know. And they've asked me about I said No I'm telling you go to the gym in Finchley down to the gym not going to be on a Wednesday afternoon. On a Wednesday. Because we train and I say that about 23 hours after anyway and now on the train in like for a fight sometimes I do the pads for the crosses and stuff but I would have kids and you know boxes and boxes of great sport you think they were affected by you not being champions. They root for me is hope you're you want to achieve what you see. In my gym before and they spoke about him being a champion and the ambition was to be a champion and then turn professional because we had us in the bar Luckily we went one above so if I can give some inspiration to the next kid in that gym imagine what I'm going to go on to achieve so we went to the Olympics championships this kid might be 2 time Olympic champion. And could a division whatever they desire as long as they can see it they can believe in achieve it so when it was taken away imagine I would go back and say look I tried so I just lose the motivation for these kids but if I go back and give them a talking to leave those boats in the gym for them to see that will spark some thinking one of those kids are going to do something special for me yeah I think it will well they're waving at us again. Coast. And if the lot of them. They move. Or the boys fights before i Books. Because they're always phenomenal hit and don't get hit the whole performance was of. Importance your game was to them as well yeah you know you get them but they look up to you go down they would say listen you. Get you know make you wait. Too late I made a mistake and go to deliberate It's a novel way another 4 years get it right. Ah because 77 pounds of the mix Yes. He did the. Thank you any news on to his next media commitment here in the restaurants. Where they took place on Friday as I said earlier. And he had to say. Straight to the point. That the Premier Mike. We could afford a blanket over him didn't the lights private chat that we wish everybody Ed and I could have honestly. I'm glad we didn't talk to him too much about the fly because we saw that last night we lived it and I'm pleased we pushed him a little bit on the situation going to read about that as you heard if you listened you heard people shouting from the for from the sides in the book the book. There was a moment there when I was a little bit maybe that maybe the 1st. Fear when you were going to really really. Did. And I don't know what they could no longer run you know 110 seconds while doing. What sounds like to me yeah the relentless nature of training and training and training and stress as well all the time thinking about the next big race the next big event coming up in his. Sense the next big fight coming up that Richie would only gave you a huge. Fight wake. Him generally said we passed discussing the fight now but just his general demeanor champion again well. I think we all recognize from the 1st contest that he wasn't present fits and then I think he's more or less saying that he wasn't 100 percent fit there was something wrong and you know obviously it's been put right now to present and he's before. So that just shows that he wasn't last contest yes I think I will obviously we got to bed. In the early I was lost we got back to the hotel. Going to my bed I literally although it was really really early in the morning I couldn't I couldn't sleep for about half an hour. Because the bag going through my head so. Must have been lying friends and just he probably hasn't gone to bed. And now it's catching up on him and that's what he looks like he has been neutral round. One of the princes one of the many princes they went out for some kind of sort of celebration now under the stars. Bedouin style sort of celebration music for drives and tents and stars and I'd like to embellish it more but you know it might be a complete invention but we're going to go there were found. There were. Camels and tights and. Celebrate beautiful. Not just looking at some of the I wouldn't call it backlash but some of the reviews of performance and dismissing it as boring and tedious and I was talking to. Today and it struck me that had Andy really cheering after winning the 1st fight not being tied in the contract to a rematch clause and just say for example he decided he didn't want any major rematch and he fights instead for massive money Tyson Fury and Tyson Fury. As a mosque craftsman that's not a dig. That's a fact. For producing that very same performance. As. He had. Back. In. One of the problems. With a.j. Is. You can only. Be a problem because he. Can be a problem because. Which he did last time. So. To keep his distance and to keep discipline. And carry out the game. Than is a physical contest always just as impressed. Last night but it was quite. We'd finished is that just. Could be and cools wall the real problem is that fluid concentrated box causes the problems and he causes Tyson Fury problems and it's interesting looking at the bookmakers reaction to Anthony Joshua's win last night he's still 2nd favorite against Tyson Fury and against the wall and fury would start favorite against him but he's almost even money in all of those contests so against Tyson Fury. Against Anthony Joshua Tyson Fury against all of those contests almost even money the pair of them with most of the the mind bookmakers So that tells you where we are now he's back on that Tom type but we're right back on that top title. On the cusp possibly how long we've been saying this but. You know when you see that those fights are where the week see them is 5050 or not the book Mike has actually have them as even money shots are virtually it's very very close to even money in all cases in those permutations and combinations so we could possibly over the next 2 years have this era that we've been so long talking about and he's talking about next coming back to London he said either at Tottenham or maybe even the looks like we are going to see Anthony Joshua's next fight in the u.k. And. I don't think Mark is going to be too far away because he wants to feel good facts and he knows each just about on a regular basis 3 times a year is the only thing he can do it. He's got the whole book and he wants to keep boxing because he knows he's boxing regular he's boxing us he's best deep down he knows that and one sentence from each of you is the 1st. Next I think it will be a guy like. Richie I would rule out want the. Might be next Dylan white women next year make sort of sense in a world you can't have cleared it why not I got. Perfect and talking about exotic staves as we wind down now from here in Saudi Arabia get set to move off to the airport your thoughts final thoughts on Awake mag in Saudi Arabia. It's been really long and hard not don't know why it's been so long and maybe it's the traffic maybe it's the just that we've stuck with and we've done everything like to take a lot of criticism. Social media for being a cheerleader for the Saudi Arabian regime we discussed it. And I'll put it to bed now. Absolutely time. The time we had the. Experience and the fight itself was great my it was a. Great event. Light your impressions impressions and never knew you could heard camels the way. That was annoy. Me which. I think is newbie to territory and the positive signs are taught from the actual show itself and the crowd was that was that they appreciated good bucks in. Cheers lots of people there and which is it which is a great song so I think we will be coming back here in the future to 2 more fights we've seen and not you have enjoyed the experience it's good people appreciate boxing and I have enjoyed it. Enjoyed the food the culture Yeah it's been nice and. Well. There was no drink there's no booze obviously here and people it was a good atmosphere people were part of balls they were. I'll call balls and that was nice to see it will behave themselves I thought it was a cracking show you know My were white and downstairs to come up it fans came across a guy from ball one came across and there were a couple of Londoners. Londoners I should learn that is a black guy from the Midlands in another village and they all said the same thing I'm prompted you know what I've missed the train was great last night all they all said the same thing that's been brilliant and to me Joshua still laughing in the background celebrating his victory almost 24 hours ago Irish if you could just pass that marker fine on to the fellow sat to your left have produced a jacket he's worked harder than all of us here this week Jack your final thoughts for Jackie last word. He's got Ocean Island just. Before a script. That sometimes I wrote down earlier it's going to be a long time. No what I was expecting. Things this of any sort of just start. To become aware of in terms of the way this is. You know for example in a book or. Table in a restaurant I was asked to fall on the single section of the family section so most restaurants it's men only the single section and then there's a special section for the family so I think I think we've had a different experience here being a group of men than if we've been a woman so it's kind of hard to talk about one thing that destroyed me as well just randomly there's no culture of recycling whatsoever there's a lot of likes in Greece plastics like tiny little bottles of water things like a little progress made on that front in terms of the week it's been it's been a lot different than I expected and you know when you're when you're out in this always a privilege to have such amazing experiences thanks for your efforts and thank you also we've been blown away by the sheer volume of responses from everybody listening to the show and. Because it's been so hectic we haven't managed to refer to any of those reviews and e-mails that we've had that we haven't been named nor in use for sure so when we get back to normal back in the u.k. And next our cast will be addressing many of the points and the issues the questions and the grumbles that you've been putting to us over the course of the past couple of weeks thank you to everybody for engaging in what's been a remarkable experience here as we head home from Saudi Arabia with the last about 5 Live boxing with Castellan sparkles Thanks for listening. On digital b.b.c. Sound small space. This is b.b.c. Radio 5 in a little b.b.c. Nice of her past 5 this is Simon Morgan the prime minister Boris Johnson's future travel to Northern England later it's after the conservatives made gains in traditional Labor seats in the biggest election victory since the 1980 s. 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If you pick up a few injuries here because I don't think what was kind of the bench was at the level but now I talk to James and comes off the bench and he's at top speed now Milne is always there I thought Henderson is going to a new level. You name it all the plays that are common in doing a bit are massively contributing committee to another 5 years at the club News warmly welcomed by a longtime rival and Space Boss Josie. Funds because I love him for the players because it looks clear that they like each other it was the relationship this is very good good news for the family because we want to have the best players the best coaches and is one of the best so. Those details and more contract news out of Anfield ceased 33 year old James Milner extend his stay at the club until 2022 in the Championship it's now 10 games without a win for Chelton after they conceded an injury time equaliser to draw 2 all home with hole. To maintain that 100 percent record in the European champions caught pool stage thumping haul the Queen's $3410.00 in their own backyard there on the verge of confirming a quarterfinal place but skills coach down sopa isn't getting carried away really pleasing form and told us to get the bonus point away from. You know. We're in a good place Dan Gilbert says he's amazed to be in the Scottish Open semifinals after he shocked Will Champion George Trump with a 5 frames to 2 victory in Glasgow the world number 12 says all RINGBACK the pressure was on his opponents and that they knew I had to go for Michelle to be positive so I can make surveys is sometimes played on the main table where you can be played on every day completely different titles are played on is very quick and the cushion is very fast and you have a girlfriend on the board. And profiled. And Scottish rugby legend Darby we will be on it with the Helen Roloson award at Sunday's b.b.c. Sports Personality. She of the a show in Glasgow the former British and Irish Lion was diagnosed with Melton you're on disease and 2016 and subsequently set up its own foundation which is raised nearly 5000000 pounds out with research and support families living with the onus and that's the latest from b.b.c. Sport. A Premier League club will anyone else. Place this is let's this is the no rage to go see 3 pm. Funny blades Premier League Sunday proves it's Manchester United against and it's an. Arsenal against Manchester City from for a big is your full station this is vital I for breakfast with Chris Robinson and I will not Oldroyd his hair in half an hour but 1st Chris Sutton was to Bruce Spall and stop man Dave go head to head in a fantasy football battle this is a pretty recorded program Supreme Court or text and here's a fantasy 66 Paulding full head to the b.b.c. Sounds. Fun to see 6065 cards with a list of words full on Chris. Says that's a problem that's a little disappointing Chris because we promised that man David Obey and that and try one day this way and it's not there for happen then what was what I know I don't know maybe they've decided he's not. Given enough to the pod yet there is no other left of the stripes yet that's a bit harsh I dive you're a key element. Could be better you a little bit. Well really is what it is you guys are you guys we do you know you you know heroes of the day I'm just a mere mortal right this is fantasy 606 game week 6 days been gone game week 17 is on the way and Dave actually on time this morning and on time Dave off to your office Christmas party which which is which is a remarkable achievement as that must mean wild was not Oh absolutely there was stops flowing around spreadsheets it was just got all of them that really did want to do what do you do you do only an anorak part they work well we did the anorak sport of the crystal maze my team was victorious I made seems fair but we were still amazed I just expect so that's doing so basically loads a little challenges for zones you go for the challenges are the physical mental Mistry Well that's one I did all the physical ones I got 2 outs are still so out of hundreds of recorded much all in just. That will be that will play out are not just talk about yourself how did you take them to oversee was actually why I like them I sat back and let them you know let them get involved they took all the crystals I got 2 out of the 30 we got so you know as a team effort who picked the things I did you strengthen your own hand a bit though I thought I was going to completely imbalance the teams before I wouldn't be you know it would be as fun so I did actually meet them to a point at which anyone only does anyone outside of your office get invited to the course I mean could Chris and I've been invited to all it will you not considered nice try to try to be just for the team you know obviously we've we could have another event with you I one come we could do you know yeah in front of the 606 pot plants he greatly defines us that I believe me. You're the nicest guy right the leader board a.j. Leaderboard after game week 6 day and Chris I mean you've been a little down by over the last couple of weeks about fantasy football but you off lying now you really are flying it got a bit lucky you know had words with my sister and yeah I have. Still enjoyed hanging on in I wouldn't say things things are particularly great in this affected our family life but you know these things happen you have to you know you times you have to have words yeah you know he needed to hear the truth and well and the truth well you I mean I don't know who made the calls he was 78 points you actually hammered me and Dave this week and you've always and you've actually made 40 points on me Chris over the last 2 weeks. Good how exciting I speak so massive so so I got 58 which puts going on your that's quite good isn't it well 40 Vadi save me the bodies I've made on the Sunday against Villa saw 913 Davies 33 points behind me on 880 had 56 points this week as the pointing area I grin Chris with a 78 is now just 35 behind. A lot of. Good behind May So it's it's now it up and and actually your December schools because basically on the polled at the moment you're listening to oldest and September manager of the month Chris Sutton type of manager of the month. And November manager of the month stat man Dave in December after 2 game weeks Chris is on 142.0 Great Dave is on 139 and a.b. Bait just a 102 mile radius dropping off yeah yeah can I just say well done to all of you know defeat is good competitive and the big news the really big news in the week just away from the league we have all qualified for the capital great news way are in great need of the fantasy football also asking for a what city what we need 54 points to get in there you go 56 I go 58 so we're really good squeaking Yeah and so later in the pot I'm going to bring in new so I know who we will draw on in the Cup What do you mean you go other lost you got 54.0 to get into the cup Chris you need to school 54 points in game week Yeah but that's lightly unfair isn't on the ones who are ranked. About who you are is I wake Isn't it is the way they work it Chris is the way they were only fair isn't it alright Tana for example our leader in fantasy 606 if he had a poor weak he might not qualify for the Can I did a can when I know he's 18 he's on 1109 which gives him in our league in fantasy 606 a lead of 71 over a guy called Jack Hewitt why I can't read his team name Chris because it's rude so yeah i know give us a clue no. I can't well the 2nd part of the word is House. It's something house f c dot com is like a gamesmanship madhouse bit rate in that Chris. And the other play we like to keep an eye on of course is Joe sand Oh oh did he get signed in the cup signs in the car. I don't know he's got he's not got you've not been drawn together in a dress certainly qualified definitely qualify because he actually scored 2 more points than you last week he got 80 and he's changed his team name again and it's called 200 points more than Sutton by Christmas is that the best they can do it is and I'm not going to present at the moment sign get stuck up the chimney. At the moment he's got a lead of 113 every 600 I can't say it now Chris the way you're going the way you go he's so Chris just looking at your table for game week 60 thank you Ok I hear you and all a big powwow big falling out he's kept his job Rasha listen comes in for Daniel James whose decision on that was that he's always like you are right what about the coal he worked you'll recall essentially all being him in vivid and got this week there just you know it's just you know I think it will be a good school that we scored in his last 3 games are shown and so are you saying the only only made that call we had a little raw about for the not so even any school than I did take the 3rd world. So Michelle isn't Richelle us and I actually I She takes a dive in the wake has made me look like a right Charlie son because I I took him out a boy I mean for one week against war but he didn't score I took a man and he goes bang bang bang and schools in 3 consecutive weeks you Captain Chris was that your colt Yeah but yeah that was the logical call and kind you know thought disappointed me this season I don't know if I keep giving Cain a kick Ok put on your finger are you have not done enough rash good got 9 points Chris that now vats was part of your wild card switch around and that the moment is looking a really good call because I think Dave in the overall game this week most transferred in players Marcus Rushford is the top of the list and then next gangs you just said they got Everton a how they got what they got Newcastle they got burned he's a good striker to have his and yeah absolutely don't do do well against all they haven't done well is that fair to know it was fair to say they think this is a this could be the turning point I think of the both of those 2 games last week I think kind of obviously changed bunch as you know its feel of the season I think the confidence is coming back into those players Rushford on the left wing has been directly involved 11 goals in 10 games is played out you think or you know dive I think and yes it's a round in the brain you know it's coming out it could be that little tweak and I think think of Ferguson's I was in were fantastic last week and it'll be a competitive game they can get through that test as well I think the confidence might come back Paul Pogba return in could be worth Chris or maybe it's a moment as you know it's a pleasant if they be of it's Ok rash but I'm a guava Chris and you've got Dave if you just go rush we're just going to have a general Russia Russia and it basically any anything I can fight Rushford with is a brand by the I've not got rush for it but I do have Tommy Abraham who's just excellent He's my own well done things not just saying I'm Just because people will be interested in my team as well as a little thing not really saying oh no I'm just saying that's what I'm going up against it is well known only Captain him. Chris what about what about transfers this week yeah go on then tell me what you're doing game week 17 if you're prepared I don't know you really want to tell because his name Tanner will call me your name is that I might do yeah all of brought them because I thought you know I needed to improve things. Need to get better can only get better the number of Downing's and we're all in a. Good for her. Why oh why is it go yeah yeah yeah yeah you can imagine the rider which we had wide back and was like it was a day where the reason should be crazy falling or the reason for that change I could see where Ali was going with that was when I got injured batch y. Had been the man that was coming off the bench to come to school the goals but actually in the following gangland pub when I could see why weren't bashed why Dr Nabarro knew that it is only words but I'm sure about anything yes or stuff. By choice I think with that you'd probably you make that change if Tommy was out you know a longer period of time like 2 free weeks the bit like by I made that subtle goal as well so I think this is the manager call can't hang about sort out to dry this week book that says to made a Play Station. You know he doesn't want to not football that's a dog who goes on play mostly for example. And creates You got to ban it just like you've been set up a way of a ban ban ban Play Station try Dave hit me assuming stats Dunning's in the last month scored 5 goals 2nd behind Jamie volley in the last month taking his chances he's got 4 big chances scored 4 goals so he's a man in form and he's a good changes is very value for Danny is fantastic so this is not a good move 39 points fantasy points in his last 5 games and his next guy Chris West Ham and in Villar a-Y. Chelsea away moon was give you a chance to own a palace. Talking about how. And you know I do a little thought about Danny Ings as well and this is just coming off the back of my trip to Salzburg Yeah so I've just come back from Salzburg whereas watching Liverpool play and I know you love Salzburg and The Sound of Music and all of that and I thought here's a suggestion for Danny Ainge family Christmas card this year get the family over to Salzburg get them all kitted and The Sound of Music a family photo and you with the Austrian background and then get a little strap line at the top of the card is here a few of my favorite things. Very nice 1st. Thank you for. Day in game week 16 Jack Gray came in yet Joe McGinn that was your one change 56 point sallow was was good for you wasn't he kept in a ball Matthew a greenish actually got 6.7 m. On I didn't play that was a sign for Chris what about this coming game wakey you are you prepared to tell us what you doing well who broke the news to you Psalms coming to the site I think he's that's out of order I just basically breaking our unwritten code of conduct in the legal copying I just think we can't ignore the stats and when they start to tell me something I have to go I think I nor Marcus rushed for too much are ignored really to much called let slip by I think in the last month 3 goals for assists he's got the most big chance is great in the league in terms of shots he ranks in the top 10 players and if you look at how Spurs a claim through moment left wing I just have to get some Spurs coverage of it that's been been an issue for the last few weeks and Kevin the broad has not been at the same level I think I've been holding Kevin abroad for a little bit too long if I'm going to look back and think City haven't been great you could write off Kevin deferring I think humans on the as the as the option is not writing him off as a good year and so on is the better option right now I'm all for song I don't question I mean there's a point here where. As as Dave gone down in your estimation these copy May That's the big question what do you know where you go on with that we have a gentlemen's agreement of never seen this and when is agreement never really it's an unwritten rule isn't there because I don't say that's right you know I had to take a couple of hard hits you did you did Chris you've been very honorable and loyal So even though I might lose to you too bad hundreds of points on when the sportsman award you know exactly exactly what you're playing for the critical yet it's gone it's sort of tempting me to go for Delhi alley now but I don't want to be bullied by David too much as if that is forcing me to do that and that's that's that's irked me so carried away with emails of you yeah but once. You get to a safe scoring points Chris. Should I worry I've got to burn and Sterling Should I worry about that they should I mean because you're obviously had enough of the brain which actually says to me I should keep him because then he's a differential against you yeah so that would be the move but at the same time. He still create you still but it's the rest of the save the rest that it's a look so shocked at the moment dates are enough Man City Club don't think at the weekend they play all snow over the weekend yeah I wish I had them in my team for this weekend people who are going to be cricket school stuff or the Emirates they will tell them apart at the back Manchester City's next fall guy Austin a white Christmas saying you know a chum with them maybe the wagons and goes then they've got Leicester. Wolves away which is also tough been shifted United How so yeah tricky games I want to get rid of Johnstone's this week by the way he's been he's been clogging up my team for too long so if Jane get him in the big jump start he's out I'm looking at a cheaper option maybe a shift at United defender to try and boost the coffers for something a bit further down the road seems you've got you've still got loads for him and yeah. I would like to lead from he wanted to do you think in the 5th thing him no chance to good value isn't he yeah we thought about I thought Stevens has been really good last few weeks the shadow of the terms of fun is the focal point as well as performances if any Sheffield United player you look at is not Lindstrom I'd go with him for sure for a little bit more the reason he is 5 point one played a lot higher on the pitch you need in the sense of Oxford so I was a wee you've got the instrument already lost they are a question that is performing better in the nets I can sense and the right wing back so is probably probably the one when you do your transfers yet do you look so I was actually sitting down at Salzburg pole Whiting to fly home and I'm quite concerned about you to closing in on me and I spent about 40 minutes on the neighbors are the lovely and lovely best strudel and I spent about 45 minutes working out a long term transfer strategy being one of the next seekers guy I can appreciate alone the trouble is that I live a very nice you through that thing right now I mean and then that game week and then yeah only when my team is in disarray it seems when I feel like my team's Ok when the guys are performing week in week out it's Ok but when you feel like the ball you've got to get the transfer strategy you got to stick by it simple the problem is that they say one thing so what I've done Chris is I've written down the next 5 game weeks and if the right this week I do this this this this this this right side but the problem is as soon as someone gets injured or a value goes up or whatever the whole thing can be actualized are exactly that's such a bull ring existence isn't it I mean I thought I thought you know what is this and we have like an hour on the phone today couching each other. That's a better way of doing it my bet is that maybe even for you but. Chris in the cup you have drawn Waleed as rock Ok I kind of had a little look in. 2 of the take a while leads to currently on 619 point so that's over 200 less than you overall he's in trouble Ok they joined in game week 2 Liverpool fan not made a single transfer they say so when the team at the moment is Wes Morgan Marcus alone so and didn't know even in the game. Because Manchester City have got rid of him and last week he had pulled Paul Burrows his captain has not played for a couple of mothers let's keep it quiet it's an absolute game may you all marry and then later on to Kehl Wally out of all it Yeah Ok so that's Chris's draw so I fancy a fancy Chris. Where I know it when it appeared when it was a guy next guy is this guy. Was a while call this week. Ok well that's a good point if he suddenly gets interested if you listen to this poll give an exam have a good. Day you're up against Adam Foster. And. His team is called 20 Schneider Ok I get there and I'm like it now his overall score is $695.00 which is almost $200.00 less than you Ok so you know overall should be able to the library I bought last week you school 56 Adam school 74th is going to go full day he's got k. In 08 Monet 0000000 a year have to go bad I cannot tell you what day you are the equivalent of Manchester United for him in the 3rd round of a car he's normally your United you are a massive scalp for a. Really good these go. Off obviously both go. Yes Basically on Abraham cavers Abraham and then saw him versus who is this big field really like I should have as and he is going to have Yeah I started unraveling versus came. Wow It's intense that is Chris and that's the one that I want to get across in this week Oh Howard I'm up against Cole g. Family who who know me the way they say he's Koji baby f. Say now actually he's got the best score have the 3 that we've drawn so he's got. He's got $745.00 points Ok he's got Vadi and eyebrow Ham but I've also got body and he's got a Bama yang. As well but then city are against Also So I think Dave's got the tough issues rule there I do hear you all right Bruce and if Dave goes out Chris would you get that the other thing is you can play you're a it wild card can you hear people do that for the Camp David of all that about the comp Yeah I think so do I Some people only play for the cup you call and you call when the club playing a wildcard 1000000 bonuses this week you need to save the yeah for the Grammy to play mom when I'm in the semi I think scientific or final is the one I wrote all over the Islamic world God love the price that you love to put signed back in its box. This is the fantasy 606 point. 32 but a quick thought of finish on the Ok I am going to start on I would say What we've not done we've not done it the fixtures for this week so all that conversation people be thinking who's playing who and what's happening. Liverpool Watford Burney New Castle Chelsea Bournemouth less than orange Sheffield united against Villa some time West Ham Manchester United Everton we did mention wolves against Tottenham Manchester City a white off no and then Palace Brighton is the Monday night gag So your 1st 3 is at the m $23.00 l $23.00 Darby but it's not really doggy is it that or. No Is it. No I mean isn't what you write here I don't know it I know there's a rival Rick. And that all stems back to Mallory inventor bills and all sorts of stuff that happened in the seventy's but bad science that. It's cold it ws I would say it's a rivalry Well you know if you insult both sets of fans we're going to chucks and nines that you hear right so if you are now your Stan Kroenke keep both of your Stan Kroenke right and I want you to choose an awesome manager so you've got to kind of ignore you know contracts and what I just just the best person for this job because I have these names and actually I was listening to 6 o 6 last Sunday and also found called him one of the names for was Mick McCarthy a crisis that would be the one McCarthy Eddie have Chris Wilder. Patrick Vieira Mikhail offset the approach of Col I'm sure Lottie who you haven't is your all smallish Chris's gun part straight in if he read ever read call on choice or biographies What's a cold there's a few that I think of the 2 of them but both of them the fixates alone pastor and poor Bob salute all of it he spends like a good but 2 or 3 trucks there's literally destruction about like Rob how is it come from the mound see the bit where the weather this all the pork school for all but a little color book No I think is the god portrait I got most of the. Dollars as they all know the car launch along with us was a dream come true I. Never do so excited not honestly. Really what is modern and why basically has what to go for dinner with call and you'll see once I think you know sensational excited about something is not numbers or stat related That's actual you know whole ultralight life things right yeah good of yeah right random question and it's festive but it's actually a little bit kind of anti festive in a way because I want to last you will is your least favorite Christmas song so you're in the shops at the new Christmas shopping they've got to see they are you know you might be out there buying you. This. Homes are right. So you're out you're out there in the shops and the one that comes on the sun. The song that comes out and just drives you cry and actually have to walk out the shop because you just I'm sorry that one right now gosh last August I've got they the one that really bugs me is the. The slight Merry Christmas everyone which starts with it's crazy. Really now for me that's just a no yeah he's. Trying to think. Well come on one of you are going I think some of this is old you know you know a very terrible one over Christmas where I care out there oh yeah I'm well into it you know maybe I'll be out yeah this is not really Christmas I've always enjoyed that the moment he's discovered that he's playing that quite a lot that I'm trying I'm trying to get him always the yeah that the rules are that yeah. You know you like that he does like it after last Christmas yeah he does like I don't know we're going to get much sense our Chris he's go. There was a real injury. It's all go a bit like I see it like on his and I. Think I ever thank you very much for listening more of this in the full podcast which is I brought the b.b.c. Sound sap that also includes Christie's favorite Paul the Paul which is all big all small again we are going to be back on Saturday with 606 getting your reaction to all the dice guy Next up on 5 Live he's breakfast with Chris will button and Ellen I'll do it. 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Bill sounds of Africans who was going to go for world football phone and the numbers of dogs and join in the conversation. 808590969308085909693 we're talking football a new Europe and South America this morning in a cools talk you full of about play is playing nowadays for measuring ages I think I've got it right yeah why not so talking football in those ranges and plays from Deb thank you ninety's as well but once again I join in Iowa 80859 or 9 Suzanne 3 you can text us 85058 or e-mail up one night at b.b.c. Dot co dot you can always say if you stick your phone number in an e-mail to us we'll call you back. He met up all night a b.b.c. Dot com dot u.k. So welcome back to the Viva Maku Vegas' momentos Good morning. He's our man in taking care of football in Europe. My daughter is coming over your side suits I'm going to link you to up so that you can take her out for some expensive meals you know wherever. Football in Europe and the legendary know is in Rio take care of any questions you go South American football so welcome back to typically as well thank you very much I hope will that works out better than it did when you sent your god daughter over and. It never happened and never did I was a wife for you ladies and then I got this message I'll get in touch and never date you studiously avoided buying her drink is one measly entering was all I asked of you with a gun. Am I man or mouse Tim. Well what is there a mouse in a studio is that is that the conundrum here is it is a conundrum us or a mouse Yeah you've seen a mouse anywhere you see espouses I wear when I go right there on the stair where on the stair right there a little mouse really. Worried don't worry about that we've got that covered because we're going to start this show with hoots Mon why no. That's. My take now he said looking to. Take note of you asking questions at the moment. And they seem carefully mark I said it's not your generation you gotta listen keenly to the words I'll take notes. This is big on this in my listener now. It's. Not and I don't see being from the young generation what was loose in the piece and there's. A moose I'm not well enough to melt and they'll let loose in a house. That he looks too boring. I don't know if it's a miles per. Hour but is it a mouse or is it a moose Tim. If it's a moose then I think you should buy the coasters you could yak. For him you know Fox that where ya I couldn't care less also know of your generation moto Mari he beat me to this occasion as well but is it a moose or is it a mouse. I'm a grass Yeah yeah kids. Yeah his house is not strictly speaking of moods or now. Goodness this was supposed to be a straightforward quiz I think I'm abandoning it at this moment yes it started out pretty well but ended tragically we could news. Broke in him is 11 you go to number one in 159 if your information does go straight to Jose you know Alston in Texas and that Jose. Hey Don are you doing very well thanks very much I always feel that because of Joe's Amory Yes you call you Joe you say but it definitely is how you say yes yes way Jose But that's Ok I don't mind if you're not. Pushy he's extraction it would be Joe's a few who wouldn't. Yeah Ok And you're asking about Aston Villa. Well not really Aston Villa one of their best players Czech relist. Yeah. And James Madison as well and pretty much I just wanted to ask if Tim and Mark if they've seen them play what they think of them and. Is there anyone in your past that you passed players that you saw on t.v. . Or live better that they remind us 1st of all what do you think of on the print player because the spotlight is on buy for them you know they are the amongst the standout players in the Premier League currently and people raise their eyebrows as to how long as the Villa can hang on to the net loan and you have a team trying to come in for them well I'm one of the fans that wants them to be part of my team. The same to them and United fans. I would definitely would want both but if I can only have one I think it would be check why was it done to impress you. Not to mention the goal that he scored against us when they were o.b. At a glance u.t. But he's just he has this air of just cool mess. That not a lot of people have. Maybe it's the Sox being rolled down there or something and everybody seems like you such a throwback. Boulder times and you know I'm not that you guys are old because you're not you know I am but the others are yeah I know he may not know you mean. Well I was just wondering you know what you guys and also I want to wish everyone a happy all the things that's very kind of you and likewise from us as well now I'll go to Mark 1st on this is staying with us because Mark Jose dismissively almost mentions the rolled down songs now people of my generation and perhaps Tim's realize knew a long time ago that when the Sox are rolled down you mean business and a job can I wonder whether that still has the same impact as as today but what if you made it Jack greenish and James Madison. Yes throwback is definitely the word I mean I don't listen to fifty's music about mooses I don't know what what we mean by by throwback is his hair as well as an attractive Brylcreem and his hair and everything. And the way runs around the field all over the place is definitely a kind of throw back to Madison as well in a different sort of sense kind of wacky. And I think why they've been so successful is they find spaces in between the lines which are a lot of players they would only be really good players can what's interesting is not broken into the set and I think that's probably because of discipline problems off the field or in their careers and circuits a bit wary of that. Sort of I mean you know because. Yeah. It's going well for them a club that I would worried about being too early I mean certainly Madison I mean Lester are going all comes blazing good as I was a different case for you knowing relegation trouble but it's. Kind of talismanic but now definitely in January I'd stay with him yeah I haven't got a lot to add so I'm going to ask a question to Mark by storm this thing of what they should do you know do you think . Jose as well do you think that this quality of player should be looking to get into the Champions League now with the way that less than a lister going you can imagine Madison having a chance next season Aston Villa now it's not going to happen between the Champions League next season do you think it's imperative for the developers of these do these players that they get into the Champions League as soon as possible. I'd say yes because if he wants to be an international football isn't the best way of proving you can play at international level is to play to European level. I'm just not certain exactly which team you would suit if we're talking about great. Well it looks like James is already going to be in the Champions League and if things go the way they are they're still going to be really difficult for him to leave even in the summer I think. That's why I think Jack is probably also. More financially parity all but definitely I also but I don't think our team is is as great to get into the Champions League this year but if we're still in Europe he can definitely take a step up yeah you see what the example I always think of with this going back a few years is Letitia I remember him Matthew little perhaps before the international audience really got into English football and so on but let's see I was a magnificently talented footballer and he studied at Southampton and I think it was a mistake because there was that thing of comfort zone he wasn't pushed as hard as he would have been had he gone to a 2 to a club really competing I think I would have got so much more out of him so hence that's what you know you're talking about throwbacks and your greatest What is brute brokering hair from the from the fifty's and he socks roll down from the early seventy's and it might makes me think of of Laetitia from the eighty's and early ninety's and thinking yeah well he should have gone each should a left Southampton choosing the right time to leave is never easy you know maintaining the momentum of your career is never easy but surely sooner or later they've got to get into that Champions League and Madison scene as you saying seems on course to do that next season but matches united the right club for Jack greenish would you you clearly want him Jose I get that but Bart posed the question which is the right club for these you know you need talents is it necessarily mentions united if you were Jag release where would you go currently unbiassed was Jose. Well I don't want to answer with I'm sorry yes we will let you guys are a great club and I love you as well. But that being said I think. He I think he would fit us incredibly well because we need we need a creative player and that's what he does he's like Mark said he's in the spaces he not only scores goals he dribbles he attracts players to him he creates space for others it's he would be exactly what we need I think you know what it's like when you stick your head above the parapet and come on to opponents Well football Foden Jose you get an immediate response to what you say. Let me give you tell you just the response one e-mails a greenish is the English Platini That's not bad is it look you know it's we want that level Michel Platini that's a pretty good kind of comforting. When I'm writing about Michel Platini But his career I always wonder do I say followed that there was a material that he was playing of absolutely no idea what you should really call him good for a bit like Schneider was well was not in and of kind of was always kept in that kind of number 10 position did he fulfill his destiny was based on a. No no follow that one season with intern 2010 was pretty special Ok and then he went to Turkey for some unknown reason. They're all very quickly greatly shocked to be careful very prevalent problems he had in this area career off the field and now away from him but as I said to say a moment ago there are 2 emails here with regards to how easy it is comments about agreements I'll give you clues to that so do the 2nd one I think kids from an Aston Villa supporter would you think he says. He's off exec Lee Well down 100 percent bearing in that some corner what I pedalled see there for a month is he did you have a job so Jose I did I did it is for the join by the way it is from John so I'm going to any in the data it was of those Brummies to bleat hands off he's mine best know a bad one that's not a bad show the b. I'm glad you brought Ranking Roger man you know is he keep your hands off. And keep hands off jack little enough to be happy about a.v.f. See the moment but Jack has been brilliant Anyway my villa related questions I'm going to ask you to on the road Jack. Some point today I'd have to go for the big version that as much as I love Ray Charles but you're you know the big youth. And yes you do and all but I'm a brother right but anyway go about well we're going to have to test our listeners on that one in a moment I would say can we expect the Brazilian international to come good or is it a lost cause with regards to who is who isn't one about I'm not sure who's a Brazil where you see oh yeah also it was all Douglas Louise and I got to who because nobody's Louise and ways leap both Mike their Brazil debuts in the him and the recent. Ok Hold on hold it's him because I'm going to ask Jose holes in that Holder thank you that sounds like another song. You owe me out here Motown doubts his work so has a joint on so that one can really expect their Brazilian internationals either of the mobo who have to come good or is a lost cause Oh I think that one's a bit over my head to be honest well that's fair enough to say that you've got to keep the hands of Jack relation this one's over you had I think we've rinsed out all your body parts for now thank you very much it's been a pleasure speaking and Merry Christmas as well thank you for your good wishes speech you see it is so good a couple of programs for Chris was well away so don't. Say they're in this state Tim the percentage was it has to move in or is a law schools. No I'm certainly not lost cause this is the 1st season there are 31 of the to Mark to see what he might see them but weighs only such a big physical presence you can get something out of him even if even if you use him as a decoys because you can play around even and obviously as I think is a is a class act has already done some terrific things that villa needs in his 1st season so no not a lost cause it's only it worries me sometimes how quickly people want to come to judgments and look now you know going going to Jose side united look now how for ages coming through in the midfield you know he went into a very very difficult situation in a club that was all turmoil obviously that made it hard for him to bed in but people are beginning to see the good side of him as well sometimes it doesn't happen instantly and it worries me that people want to want to go to immediate judgments on players Mark Yeah it's a very fair point this series have a little more leeway. For them to develop into the club and the game but with the striker strikers and scoring goals because they need to see that confidence completely. And I think the problem with ways that when I've seen this is go all the actually seems to in your. Training trouble a little bit slower than the average player you know 6 to Coker took series or seems to bring the ball down and it's kind of this 3 seconds thing ought to do and by that time is disciples already been taken off but you know the Premier League the top league has someone coming straight into it I was in Belgium I think for was me so there is quite a big step up and a bit of a risk that took taken Ok last more questions there's a route through some of these takes in e-mails that we've got at the moment. In Ken's was no whether you think the deck to rise was too Western United or whether he'll go to Europe or leave in January. Yeah it's kind of also a close kind of office at such a great start and then it's kind of hard for him because it's filled in less time than just getting over a room. And to call all 'd that and I'm quite young shoulders is maybe a bit too quick and if I was it might make me get out of there and Europe would actually make sense actually because I think this all clay requote could flourish abroad are there any teams roads with no i have not had a lot of speculation actually because I am I guess. European clubs don't really look at English players got off because they just naturally assume well they don't travel so well and why would they come to your when all the money is in the Permian I think but yeah West Ham's a bit of a basket case the moment. There was talk about United but I don't really know if it quite fits I think is it better for it than. If we're talking about kind of England holding the tree of this. Very guy was going to be then maybe is the sort of person the ring you know like so many just sits there and does his job Gabrial Bobo's deserve Euro Disney. Would he fit into images United's Mark Dartmouth was interesting one who did this is 23 now and he was Brazil's center forward at the age of 19 and he went to Europe and it was just a disaster nothing happened to him and into mine and lot of people of going off the roads and into my new There's clearly been something wrong there in recent years but nothing happened for me being free can ride on absolutely nothing so he came back to Brazil and he's done exceptionally well and he's gunning now for Liverpool do the flamingo who are the Brazilian champions there the South American champions who are on their way to Qatar for the World Club Cup to play Liverpool What's he going to do this is this is one of the big questions in Brazilian football because he's he's very very charismatic he's one of those players who are. Kids who support. Other teams are also reacting to you because of the goals of the schools in a way that in the way that he celebrates those very happy where he is but he's 23 if he doesn't go back to Europe now we ever get the chance you know the European clubs are increasingly reluctant to bring in players in the mid twenty's from South America they want to bring him in as teenagers so if he leaves it to long that chance my God now for me I would like to but he still on loan from into my own feeling I would like to would like to buy him definitively. And I'm fascinated to see him in the Club World Cup against a better quality of defender than he's been facing over here I think one I think there are a number of reasons for his problems one of them is he's one of those strikers who's not particularly well suited to 4231 or 433 in that he's not an out number 9 and he's not really a winger he's much much more suited to fall for 2 with a pair of strikers that gives him the flexibility to wander around to drop deep to run at the opposing defense and Flamengo have basically played a 442 that's been one of the things that's got this got the best out of him. That he might be at the top level a little bit to one forty's is very very left footed and at the top level as a striker you can't line it up like a golf shot like a snooper shot you got to take it to you as it comes and there. It is right foot may not be good enough to be really outstanding as a center forward or at the very highest level and the other problem has been his temperament and he scored a lot of goals be picks up as many cards he's petulant is mean spoilt and I think that was a problem also in Europe so if there is a Liverpool Flamingo final in this Club World Cup and you shouldn't take these things for granted both sides have semifinals to. Supply she was dying Wednesday before the final on Saturday I'm really looking forward to seeing him up against Virgil van Dyke because that's the side of the field that he likes to operate cutting in from the right it's the very side of the feel better now Virgil van Dyke is the left sided center back so they would be in direct opposition so that's one Clash and I'm really looking forward to see it is the most inferior to think this is striker line up was shot like it's nuclear show or goal show because you're literally watching it you literally get the opportunity to scream a sheep like 4 or 5 times. You know it was a monument at that there's a bit sneak a commentary that always makes me laugh It's now is that the whispering fellow used to do any society or he scene he seems to be looking at a possible plant and if you write that down and think about it literally just ludicrous and you seem to be looking at a possible planet but sometimes you've got time to think that to yourself what a strike is learning to shut up well it's good ones they don't use that time it's in the back of the net no backlift the keeper can't react in about it and indeed it's not just our listeners the instant responses by the way you'd be pleased to know I'm pleased in a way because it crossed my mind right thought Now let's stick to the footballing reasons as to why. We're comparing Jack greenish to Michel Platini But thank you nevertheless for pointing out Jake in Dundalk in Ireland what other permutations there might have been nothing of the sort crossed my mind and I'm not the only one I'm not the only one you Tim have been told off here as well. Let me find out what I thought it was what I don't need I say what I thought out so you say what you did you had the audacity to suggest that Matt Le Tissier should have their stuff em to even as you said I was trying to save you from now on I was going to say yeah but it was one of those individual players that wouldn't necessarily fit in anywhere else in the same. Around him and Nicky Basingstoke says Dawson please tell the series Making by using start now tells you everything you can to disagree kind of everyone else he's going to agree. That one of the whiter numbers in Beijing says in a journey from Southampton here is still a journey could he could have you know his allegiances might be split but nevertheless is not this guy's. Please tell Datsun please go to the mat c.c.a. Should not have no Southampton enjoyed his football with us we loved watching him every week every job he loved him he was the best there oh great question about Freddie you good for you in a moment. If you don't mind Mark just keep that thought it's a good one it's a really good one I'm not going to add any Swedish into this year so it's a great while before we wait 59 or 96300 of this warning is Europe and South American president of the playing Ali's side we've got the Viva Vegas sees a football expert in Berkeley European football we've got the legendary victories often works with South America and the question is you want to ask them about football in their regions or in the placement of the playing Olesen feel free to do it but this has got the latest of our headlines has Joe who'll be on digital b.b.c. Census Slosberg come on various ways b.b.c. 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Get the rug Jack can tell you come about no more my brother Ray Charles it was meant as our European football Chris Budden he said I should censor him for his because he's of that younger generation who probably doesn't appreciate the legend that is so brother of the original so Brother Number One Ray Charles what you think of this month's averages so I know there are some very clear. Just goes to show it transcends the generations of Yankee and they and him you love it you think this is the version dozens of Tim Tim Tim was soaring in London a solo Maria wrote in a brother I know he and I generally didn't know that. Oh my goodness this is going to be embarrassing for the Muslim Brotherhood it's going to be embarrassing for I never saw a Ray Charles the morning off he died I was in Floyd and I played on the edge to the blind Instead she where he was resident as a child I drove up there just to absorb some of the spirit of Ray Charles but that's not the same as seeing him live not once but twice so this is going to be embarrassing You see Mark. Tim So Ray Charles law I will I can say to that is that I saw a big youth alive. Which is it to be. Cool but not sure how these 2 songs yeah my laptop back to the flip. Of the song just do exactly the same as the original tells you that if you give it a little. Bit different style that I thought of ever say big oh whoa Sam would say you. Should be someone you don't mean you still don't you have to have a saying because there's no comparison. There's the originals are still in a crisis of course in this one case I think Mark has got a point when you hear a cover version. And something i Generation Yeah exactly does it Yes Ok he hasn't got the rage let's and apparently to be a ray let you have to let Ray let's leave that to one side you have got the right let's. All excellent and that would do us a. Little pretty good but it's not as pretty as I was just saying that he has got the right LEDs and that's the one thing I would say that. What to give should have done with this he should have got the I 3 they did back him on some songs but Molly's backing female trio he should have got them to do you know that's what I keep to rove check this you know good he should have got them to do that and then he would have been a killer and that's one thing let's put that aside now let's talk football about Jimmy Freddie Ljungberg I wonder I'm coming on to that you see all pretty. Well. That's what some people are saying Have a listen to this email to Mark as a doona Can you please give me hope this is from Chris in Waikiki in Hawaii so that's a long way to hit the road jack or Freddie or Chris as a as a goon or can you please give me hope for the remainder of the 20192020 season it's ready you the right man is kid take it will shoot all who should be asked Tuesday manager is top 4 out of the question or is it possible that we could become the next Leeds United in flip with relegation my personal opinion is Arsenal should go all out for color and should not experience a visit all coach in other words hit the road Freddie Ljungberg. Yes I have to agree I mean. I didn't even know for a young person to turn himself into a coach I mean you remember as a player he was just a player that you didn't think were coming coach you know quite quiet off the field you know. That. Oh no at all and also what really worries me is when you appoint from within and you make an assistant manager coach you think well hang on the coach is going to hired this guy was working on me him so sure the assistant has to take some of the blame for why things weren't going well. And you know you just don't have 3 new manager Pams that you normally get with a new guy so I think it's pretty clear that Freddy isn't going to get long term now until that he's available then obviously since the source of the q. Giving Chelsea how many close to Sky lunch a lot he won't and it keeps him going wrong laterally I mean by me got rid of him all of a sudden when they realized things just weren't right there and you know training sessions were being done properly and stuff like that I mean actually is a bit of a weird case because I was the owner of the and just. Very demanding and basically told the whole squad and I'm sure lots of you have to go on a week's retreat to try to save this season and I'm sure that you just turn around Sherman said no so therefore we all knew that once they got through the Champions League he was going to be fired but maybe kind of needs a bit of a break after the chaos of Napoli and the Italian name is a vaguely I mean Alegria is available and so with talent in some ways quite. Figure and he did so well that you think forget that he won a championship with me that in 2000 and let me one of the worst mean and sides to ever win and the so I would kind of go for the leg where the problem is language wise you know actual Artes Inc This was never brilliant but it seems English is certainly better than he's German which is kind of why I actually thought as well like using This is a bit better I think they've got to go try and go for a top coach like that now to crack out the rot and you know seizing vision stops for him didn't stop David Luiz understanding what he meant you need to ask a few shows he went losers they know me not meet me me understood he understood very well then if you disagree with your description of Freddie you anybody did the kind of underwear advertising the you did talk of an eye sore and surely you cannot describe them as being reserved Ok That aside he has got to pay scoring or at least he has got Pepe scoring a goal and it was a crack of a gold as well. It was an either so good player they massively overpaid for him you know somebody not totally proven themselves in the top European league with all respect to the Leo and friends and you know they were saying oh there's not a lot of money around you know and then all of a sudden they find you know 72000000 from somewhere so I'm not sure they really needed him in that position when you go. Over man but going back to what you were saying. Tim was saying what for for to this is to be up this obsession in European football No 4 for 2 doesn't work when you come play 2 strikers oak top together who are kind of similar That's absolute nonsense if we look back at English football that's exactly what did so in Shira York I'm cold so similar that it would excuse each knows what Iran is doing and if you'll pocketing out why I think Cole was in the middle of the box and vice versa and I think it's obvious to me that luck is an opening and has to play together as just a normal from 2 and that means you don't in that kind of meet this this strike that you can just play it by a winger and that might then elp because then you go for people in the midfield you can actually dig in and help when people like Mr Ursula not be tracking back as much as they should. No no not really marks marks covered the waterfront you know I was thinking about in the terms of formation about 4 Ford soon saw without one comment already about you know formation of this or current. Dalliance with different formations and why our car can bring a South American perspective to that because that's something that year ago I play a lot for 42 because they they have Swat is uncovered honey so you know if you've got 2 strikers like that who work together so well obviously you're going to play him it hasn't always been easy for them to get the right balance in midfield because one of the problems with it I think that the main reason that it went out of vogue and you saw this clearly in the World Cup at the start your was 1st games where they were in a very weak group and they started a couple victory but without playing particularly well the 2 in midfield can be outnumbered if you've got one left and one right you know that the central 2 can often be up against 3 and the game never really flows I think it was watching England for years when England were just wedded to 442 was really really like that so that that that I think is the problem with it and there are ways round that you can split a striker's you know with one dropping dropping back a little bit to Mike to make the 3rd man his image in sentiment field especially when when you lose possession of the ball you can play lopsided fullbacks So one is is is pushing up very very high allowing the midfielder the wind midfielder that side to move into the center while the other fullback plays plays a more defensive role and you can get around it like that but one of the problems with it when it has just been a line of fall that opponents can can get more men into the center of midfield and play angle. And the angle will always be destroyed line yeah the triangle will. Be a straight line and that's why I think it went out of vogue obviously as Marcus said the big advantage of bringing of bringing back is the possibility of playing 2 up front and having them able to play off each other so if you can do that and find a way not to be outnumbered in essential midfield I think it still valid curious if the legend you know knows anything about Mathias Pelligrini from a studio and says David Beckham's do m.l.s. Team in Miami's just signed him as one of the key players appreciate the show's always stream joined in Tacoma Washington your ads by the way saw him go on and on I was going to say you had by the way bigger is starting to heat up he's got 4 Yeah yeah you do wonder and authorized this to Mark as well if it's quite the right club if he's free enough to do what he wants any old time if he would do better in a in a more ambitious expensive it's allowed near and that the new year. Pellegrini hadn't seen for a while but I was very impressed with him when went when I saw him a few times and in general I've been really impressed with the recruitment in Las from from South America and in general I think they do they're doing a terrific job of identifying talent so the people doing the scouting for the m.l.s. Clubs I think of done extremely well. Mojo to comment on him said about the run is he had the right. The question is the right leak I think bending any to any way or just a little out of the ball and things are rushed I think I could have seen him prospering more of the kind of Florentine like hope than maybe Newcastle with the ghost of being at Newcastle their hand is you know it's going to toughen him up and you know you've got 50000 math fans there if it week absolutely loving you solo. In the middle easy on the Med I know no matter where you. Need to score more goals obviously as. I think we knew what you meant I was just trying to be mischievous then we can roll with us hello row. Fine thanks for much what you couldn't from and coach from Toronto woes cold no snow well remember yeah yeah there was week. Last week good to see a good defensive Coolio go ahead yes so I have a question for Tim and it's about Rex it but not the breakfast you're thinking of. There is it it's a footballing Breck's it and it's the exit of really young talented Brazilian players exiting Brazil as it were for a big European club very good point yes. I'm a Real Madrid and have been for over 20 years and. Few players have excited me as much as when it's his junior and how do we go go ahead and so I want to ask him about you know I'm sure and Brazil there's a sense of pride at seeing 2 Brazilian teenagers start and score in the same game for Real Madrid as they did a few days ago but what I'm more curious about is whether people are concerned about what this means for the quality of the standard of the Brazilian League and are people talking about you know how can we keep these kids in the country for longer so we can enjoy their talents at least until their early twenty's as was the case with Neymar but now it seems 1617 or even younger they're being whipped with Europe so I'd like to hear that side of Brazilians thoughts on em. Yeah you can't take them until they're 18 but these days on talent that is in the 1st team when they're established 1st team players by the time they're 18 and they're going this is not a new situation for Brazilian football this is been happening for for for so 3 decades now you can see it through World Cup squads the World Cup squads of 78 and before no one foreign based 82 had one or 2863 or 490 it split down the middle one of the reasons that they had problems in 909594 from 94 onwards the vast majority of squad are based in Europe and the way that the market has gone just in recent years the European clubs have arrived at the conclusion that the gap between top level football in Europe and in South America in Brazil the gap is now so big that you gotta get them as early as possible because if you get them when they're in the Internet kind of mid twenty's you don't know if they're going to be any good you don't know if they're going to be able to adapt the football in Europe is much much more dynamic the space between the lines is much much more reduced so the whereas like 1015 years ago European clubs big European clubs would buy players that 2425 now if if if you haven't been sold body to 22 you really have reduced chances of making it to a big club you can still probably go to a smaller club for a lesser fee in France or something beyond that age and maybe work your way up that's the way that the market has gone and Brazilian football's had to get used to it on its It's a way that a lot of clubs look to balance the books they need some white players sales in order to balance the books and it's almost like become an export industry there is obviously huge concern about the the the. This has on the domestic game because no doubt about it it really really does lower the quality of the of the domestic game on the other hand as you know as you pointed out a hole there there's tremendous pride that they can they can produce this this quality of players from time to time that the kind of thought goes up you know how can we get these players back and you look at the reality of Brazilian football and you just can't possibly see how you look at the calendar of the there are so many games and kind of meaningless games that the players have to play players if the side doesn't win players can get attacked by their own fans at the airport when they come back it's not a very attractive thing and yet we've gone well past that point of critical mass where in order to prove yourself as a top class player you've got to do it in class football in in Europe if you've already done it in South America there's still that big question mark against you and that that is not just a verdict from outside so in that's a verdict that the players have themselves I remember there's that unfortunately that the fellow who runs the place is going to hold and he doesn't do it anymore but quite close to where I live there is a football school where you used to give free lessons and he was really really taught in the basics of pass and move football and he got some are lots of it is graduates from this little school very humble little school went on to win professional contract all over the world and the 1st time I discovered disco was in was in 1907 and then when you talk to the kids at the age of you know 789 saying what's the dream or the dream is to play one of the big local local clubs here in Brazil go back a few years later just a few years later speak to those you know the new crop of 9 year olds what's the dream Real Madrid and Barcelona you know that the generations of now have grown up globalized and I would ask them you know 19 year old kids why Real Madrid over. Sloan but they couldn't a found spine on the map but they had in their I in their heads they are they are they that it's better there and it's hard to see how that balances is going to be river dressed because even if Brazilian football could compete in terms of salaries and it can't but even if it could you would still have the problem that the greatest players from the forefront calling other all corners of the world would still be congregating in Europe and that's where you got to go to prove yourself as a as a great player so for the time being I can't see any solution although there is always space for those who are coming back and those who haven't quite come off on the Flamingo side or champions of South America you can clearly see that the goalkeeper and both full backs are veterans who had their time in Europe and came back a century midfielders Yes and he was he was in Europe he was in Italy for 43 years did all right but not good enough he's come back the 2 strikers in magnificent full . We talked about early on and blue knowing he cues probably even better both went to Europe and did absolutely nothing so it's a little bit like you know there is room for players who go to Real Madrid and Barcelona and don't come off air or can't get in the team where they can go somewhere else and in the same way there is room for Brazilian football to repatch rate some of those players who haven't quite settled in in Europe and that I think has been one of the secrets of flamenco success this year Rose you again a European perspective on this given that it's bricks and you know I mean. Had I been wonderful new to market Yeah indeed what have these clubs got to save themselves the road Madrid's a bus loads. Well from their perspective they just want the best players that they are yes Ok so you know selling if you motionless in South America as well and it's a bit of a swagger as well just bringing in a Brazilian player your own players are saying oh this guy must be go to from Brazil because it how could Brazilian players have been in the past and also you know presume football is just do things sometimes the European football wouldn't just excite the crowd and you know run for the entire defense like the old Ranallo used to do so it definitely lifts a European league as well because it just reinforces the message yes this is the Crandell a crime the old you know the new son. Is there something to say the same thing I just managed to control myself I thought no it's not true that that's not my club point but yeah you know that great Brazilian some young. You see where this question about Briggs is taking his row with that in the lead in Syria. Exactly the sort of exactly like now the follow up question to you and your. So with what somebody like Cinesias might Mike My next concern of you know what a player like him moving to Real Madrid at such a young age does for have a development. But last season he he was he did a great job because he introduced some freshness and vibrancy to a very stale real side for the fans to media darling everything was great now this season he's the there's there's some frustration which I think of ludicrous honestly for many fans at the fact that he doesn't create or doesn't score a lot of calls there isn't a lot of and product yet and there's a lot of pressure being placed on him to do to score a bunch of goals and people forget that he is still a teenager and worried a sort of about whether that's going to end up with him and with his creativity being knocked out of him because of the pressure of playing for real it's such a young age and I don't have the same concern with Roderigo because he seems a different breed one who incredibly calm on the ball and just knows where you want to. Go thinking when he when he's on the ball it is a remarkable talent. I think back a little bit with that problem of instant judgments and he's so far ahead of where people thought he would be. He still well there's no reason for him to be frustrated at least still miking terrific progress and he will eventually become seen. At. The. B.b.c. Radio 5. Good morning this is up or not on fire. Alimony is on 5 Live boys Johnson's urging people across the u.k. To heal their divisions over breaks it and in sports a new deal but can Liverpool surpassed Arsenal's Invincibles. This is b.b.c. 5 live with the b.b.c. 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Jeremy Corbyn says he wanted to be leader in the next election but won't stand down until his successor is chosen the labor m.p. For Darby South Margaret Beckett says many voters didn't like him Jeremy just had so much baggage and it wasn't easy bag because he'd been in Parliament for so long but without having the leadership responsibility makes people you know be more cautious perhaps about some of the things they say and do the outgoing Liberal Democrat leader Joseph Winston says she's proud to have been the 1st woman to lead her party she will be replaced after losing her seat to the s.n.p. Staying in Scotland and Boris Johnson has told victory. S.m.p. Leader Nicholas sturgeon he remains opposed to a 2nd independence referendum she's through to make an official request after her party won 48 of Scotland's 59 seats here are the views of voters in Glasgow I think we should be allowed to come on the bench represent the thing to which there should be enough forcible just like. A goods or money Scotland's good Another was there I said it was a. Bit of a choice again. In other news the u.s. House Judiciary Committee has approved 2 articles of impeachment against President Trump It sets up a full vote in the House of Representatives next week Washington correspondent is Chris Butler what the seller truck could be is again this whole idea of Washington taking each other on Democrats versus Republicans in a really better Tibet that will really kick off an election year in America with a great degree of divers who will join the rescue teams in New Zealand later to resume the search for the remains of 2 people still missing following the 4 coming of option on White's Island one has been spotted in the sea 6 bodies were retrieved yesterday. 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Desire for change there are now questions over who succeed Jeremy Kolb announced Labor leader after he said he won't fight the next election in the role it follows the party's heaviest election defeat since the 19th that sees some response I'm is from but obviously the markets took a a real big interest in next Labor leader after Jeremy call been commented on he's not going to be there for next election Keir Starmer is the front runner at the minute 15 to 18 back along Bailey 61 Jess Phillips 72 on the Liberal Democrats are moving forward with 2 temporary Coley to say to Joe Swinson lost her seat to the s.n.p. She has an edge to policy to regroup there will be a way out of this nationalist search and we have to work together to find it it is a huge job to be done the answer is that we step up we organize we join together so I won't be your leader I will be walking alongside you. The s.n.p. The Nicholas sturgeon House warned Boris Johnson that he has no right to refuse Scotland a 2nd independence referendum the 1st minister is set to make an official request in the coming days after increasing her party's majority by 13 the prime minister says he remains opposed and in Northern Ireland the d'you pay how lost $2.00 of its biggest names including the West mistily to Nigel dots in other news the search is expected to continue later for the bodies of 2 people still missing after the volcanic eruption on New Zealand's white Highlands one body has been seen in the sea the remains of 6 people were retrieved yesterday. A full vote will take place in the Us House of Representatives next week on 2 impeachment charges against President champ it's after the House Judiciary Committee approved the articles Donald Trump pounds again dismissed the process as a sham and hoax and Britain's railways will undergo major timetable change tomorrow including the 1st nonstop trains between lawns in Bristol in decades journey times will be cut frequency is increased and new routes at it following investment in infrastructure and carriages Dangerfield is from the independent passenger watchdog transport focus clearly when you change anything there's a degree of risk but that isn't the sort of late chopping and changing of the plans which led to the problems in May 28th so whilst we obviously don't know that it will be perfect until the day they don't seem to be the level of risks involved this time that they were there for some detail has the sports former England midfielder Jermaine Jenas says he can't see anyone between Liverpool this season the Premier League leaders can extend their got. 11 points later today and into in go 34 games with genius also predicting they will break Arsenal's Invincibles record of 49. 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Sport Relief. On. The hill sounds of Africans who was going to go for world football phone and the numbers of course like to join in the conversation. 8859096930080085909693 we're talking football a New Year Up and South America this morning in a cools so can full of about play is playing out for measuring ages I think I've got it right yet why not such a good football in those ranges and plays from that like you know leagues as well. As Let's join in Iowa 80859 or 900 on 3 you can sextile us 85058 or e-mail up tonight at bbc dot co dot you can as always say if you stick your phone number in an e-mail to us we'll call you back. He met up all night a b.b.c. Dot com dot u.k. So welcome back to the Viva Mark Vegas momentos Good morning. Is all man. Take care football a new Europe. My daughter is coming over your side says I'm going to link you to up as either you get sake or out for some expensive meals you know of a. Football in Europe and the legend Dana is in Rio Take have any questions you go South American football so welcome back to to McRae's Oh oh. Thank you very much I hope will that works out better than it did when you sent your god daughter over and. It never happened and never was a lie so you know he's And then I got this message I'll get in touch and never date you studiously avoided buying her drink is one means the internet was all out of you with a gun. And my mental mouse Tim. Well what is there a mouse in a studio is that is that the conundrum here is it is the conundrum us or a mouse Yeah you've seen a mouse anywhere you see espouses I weigh when I go right there on the stair where on this there right there a little mouse. Don't worry about that we've got that covered because we're going to start this show with who'd smoke on. That's. My take is in looking to. Take note of you asking questions at the moment. And they seem to be more I said it's not your generation you've got to listen keenly to the words I'll take notes. This is big on this in my listener now. Is. This. I'm not and I don't see being in the younger generation what was loose in the piece and there's. A moose but I'm not well enough to melt and they'll get loose in the house. That he looks too boring. I don't know if it's a miles per. Hour but is it a mouse or is it a moose Tim. If it's a moose then I think you should buy the coasters you could yak. For him or you know foster that where ya I couldn't care less also know of your generation moto Mari he beat me to this occasion as well but is it a moose or is it a mouse. A man grass Yeah yeah kids. And yeah his house is not strictly speaking it moves or now. Goodness this was supposed to be a straight forward craze I think I'm abandoning it at this moment yes it started out pretty well but ended tragically he's been we could news. Broke in him is 11 you go to number one in 159 if your information does go straight to Jose you know Alston in Texas and that Jose. Hey Don are you doing very well thanks very much I always feel that because of Joe's Amory Yes you call you Joe you say but it definitely is how you say. Yes Yes Way Jose But that's Ok I don't mind if you're not. Pushy he's extraction it would be Joe's a few who wouldn't. Yeah Ok anyway but you're asking about Aston Villa. Well not really Aston Villa one of their best players Jack really. Yeah. And James Madison as well and pretty much I just wanted to ask if Tim and Marc if they've seen them play what they think of them and. Is there anyone in your past that you passed players that you saw on t.v. . Or live better that they remind us 1st of all what do you think of on the print player because the spotlight is on by for them you know they are the amongst the standout players in the Premier League currently and people raise their eyebrows as to how long as the Villa can hang on to the net loan and you have a team trying to come in for them well I'm one of the fans that wants them to be part of my team. The same to them and United fans. I would definitely would want both but if I can only have one I think it would be Jack why was he done to impress you. Not to mention the goal that he scored against us will be and again as u.t. But he's just he has this air of just cool mess. That not a lot of people have. A baby it's the socks being rolled down there or something and everybody seems like you such a throwback. Older times and you know I'm not that you guys are old because you're not no I am but the others are yeah I know he may not know you mean. Well I was just wondering you know what you guys time and also I want to wish everyone a happy all the things that's very kind of you and likewise from us as well now I'll go to mug 1st on this is staying with us as I became smug How does a dismissively almost mentions the rolled down songs now people of my generation and perhaps names realize knew a long time ago when the Sox are rolled down you mean business and a job can I wonder whether that still has the same impact as as today but what if you made it Jack greenish and James Madison. Yes throwback is definitely the word I mean I don't listen to fifty's music about mooses I don't know what what we mean by by throwback is his hair as well as an attractive Brylcreem in his hair and everything. And the way runs around the field all over the place is definitely a kind of scroll back to Madison as well in a different sort of sense and kind of wacky. And I think why they've been so successful is they find spaces in between the lines which are a lot of players they were only really good players can was interesting is not broken into the don't set and I think that's probably because of maybe discipline problems off the field or in their careers and sort of creates a bit wary of that. Sort of play with regard to me here because. Yeah. It's going well for the most clubs that I want. To really I mean certainly Madison I mean Lester are going all comes blazing good as I was a different case of you know in relegation trouble but it's. Kind of callous man but now definitely in January I'd stay with him. You know I haven't got a lot to add so I'm going to ask a question to Mark by storm this thing of what they should do you know do you think . Jose as well do you think that this quality of player should be looking to get into the Champions League now with the way that less than a lister going you can imagine Madison having a chance next season Aston Villa now it's not going to happen between the Champions League next season do you think it's imperative for the developers of these do these players know they get into the Champions League as soon as possible. I'd say yes because if he wants to be a an international football isn't the best way of proving you can play at international level is to play at a European level. I'm just not certain exactly which team you would suit if we're talking about great. Well it looks like James is already going to be in the Champions League and if things go the way they are they're still going to be really difficult for him to leave even in the summer I think. That's why I think Jack is probably also. More financially parity all but I definitely I also but I don't think our team is is as great to get into the Champions League this year but if we're still in Europe he can definitely take a step up yeah you see what the example I always think of with this going back a few years is Letitia I remember him Matthew little perhaps before the international audience really got into English football and so on but let's see I was a magnificently talented footballer and he studied at Southampton and I think it was a mistake because there was that thing of comfort zone he wasn't pushed as hard as he would have been had he gone to a 2 to a club that really competing I think I would have got so much more out of him so hence that's what you know you're talking about throwbacks and you are great what he's going to hear from the from the fifty's and he sucks roll down from the early seventy's and it might makes me think of all of Laetitia from the eighty's and early ninety's and thinking yeah well he should have gone each should a left Southampton choosing the right time to leave is never easy you know maintaining the momentum of your career is never easy but surely sooner or later I've got to get into that Champions League and Madison scene as you saying seems on course to do that next season but Manchester United the right club for Jack greenish would you clearly want him Jose I get that but Bart posed the question which is the right club for these you know unique talents is it necessarily mentions united if you were Jag release where would you go currently unbiassed was Jose. Well I wanted to answer with I'm sorry yes we will let you guys are a great club and I love you as well. But that being said I think. He I think he would fit us incredibly well because we need we need a creative player and that's what he does he's like Mark said he's in the spaces he not only scores goals he triples he attracts players to him he creates space for others it's he would be exactly what we need I think you know what it's like when you stick your head above the parapet and come on to the opponent's Well football Foden Jose you get an immediate response to what you say. Let me give you tell you just the response one e-mails a greenish is the English Platini That's not bad is it look you know it's we want that level Michel Platini that's a pretty good kind of comfort to anyone. When I'm writing about Michel Platini But his career I always wonder do I say followed that there was a material that he was playing of absolutely no idea what you should really call him good for a bit like Schneider was well was not kind of kind of was always kept in that kind of number 10 position did he fufu his destiny was the Santa. Not enough follow that one season but then turned 2010 was pretty special Ok and then he went to Turkey for some unknown reason. They're all very quickly greatly shocked to be careful very prevalent problems he had in this area career off the field and now away from him but as I said to say a moment ago there are 2 emails here with regards to how easy it is comments about agreements I'll give you clues to that so do the 2nd one I think kids from an Aston Villa supporter would you think he says. He's off exec Lee Well down 100 percent bearing in that some corner what I pedalled see there for among those who did you have a job so Jose I did I did it is from the joined by the way it is from John so I'm going to any in the data it was of those Brummies to bleat hands off he's mine best know a bad one that's not a bad show the b. I'm glad you brought Ranking Roger man you know is he keep your hands off. And keep hands off jack little enough to be happy about a.v.f. See the moment but Jack has been brilliant Anyway my villa related questions I'm going to ask you to on the road Jack. Some point today I'd have to go for the big version that as much as I love Ray Charles but you're you know the big youth. And yes you do and all but I'm a brother right but anyway go about well we're going to have to test our listeners on that one in a moment I would say can we expect the Brazilian international to come good or is it a lost cause with regards to who is who isn't one about I'm not sure who's a Brazil where you see oh you know what Also it was or Douglas Louise and I got to who because nobody's Louise and ways leap both Mike their Brazil debuts in him and the recent. Ok I'll quote him because I'm going to ask Jose Hauser that Holder thank you that sounds like another song. You owe me out here Motown doubt this morning in San Jose Jordan so that one can really expect their Brazilian internationals either of the mobo who have to come good or is it a lost cause Oh I think that one's a bit over my head to be honest well that's fair enough to say that you've got to keep your hands of Jack relation this one's over you had I think we've rinsed out all your body parts for now thank you very much it's been a pleasure speaking and Merry Christmas as well thank you for your good wishes speech you see it is still got a couple of programs for Christmas well away so don't. Say they're in this state Tim the percentage was it has to move in or is there a law schools. No I'm certainly not lost cause this is the 1st season there are 31 of the to Mark to see what he might see them but weighs only such a big physical presence you can get something out of him even if even if you use him as a decoys because you can play around him and notice ways I think is a is a class act has already done some terrific things that villa needs in his 1st season so no not a lost cause it's only it worries me sometimes how quickly people want to come to judgments and look now you know going going to Jose side united look now how for ages coming through in the midfield you know he went into a very very difficult situation in a club that was all turmoil obviously that made it hard for him to bed in but people are beginning to see the good side of him as well sometimes it doesn't happen instantly and it worries me that people want to want to go to immediate judgments on players Mark Yeah it's a very fair point this series have a little more leeway. For them to develop into the club and the game but with a striker the striker isn't scoring goals because they need to see their confidence completely. And I think the problem with ways that when I've seen this is call the actually it's gritty seems to mean you are in clinical a little bit slower than the average player you know 6 to Coker took series or seems to bring the ball down and it's kind of this 23 seconds thing ought to do and by the time is decided the balls are already been taken off but you know the Premier League the top league has someone coming straight into it I was in Belgium I think before was me so there is quite a big step up and a bit of a risk but really took taken. Ok last more questions lisc route through some of these takes in e-mails that we've got at the moment. In Ken's was no whether you think Declan rise will stay at West Ham United or whether he'll go to Europe or leave in January. Yeah it's kind of also a close kind of office at such a great start and then it's kind of hard for him because it's filled in less time than just getting over a room. And to call all 'd that I'm quite young shoulders is maybe a bit too quick and if I was it might make me get out of there and Europe would actually make sense actually because I think this all clay requote could flourish abroad are the only teams roads with the only. I have not had a lot of speculation actually because apparently I guess. European clubs don't really look at English players that often because they just naturally assume well they don't travel so well and why would they come to your when all the money is in the Permian I think but yeah West Ham's a bit of a basket case the moment. There was talk about mice United but I don't know if it quite fits I think is it better for than. If we're talking about kind of England holding the truth as. If every guy was going to be then maybe is the sort of person the Rino like so many just sits there and does his job Gabrial Bobo's deserve Euro Disney. Would he fit into images United Mark Dartmouth one interesting one who did this is 23 now he was Brazil's center forward at the age of 19 and he went to Europe and it was just a disaster nothing happened to him and into mine and lot of people of gone off the rails and into my new There's clearly been something wrong there in recent years but nothing happened for me being free can ride on absolutely nothing so he came back to Brazil and he's done exceptionally well and he's going now for Liverpool do the flamingo who are the Brazilian champions there the South American champions who are on their way to Qatar for the World Club Cup to play Liverpool What's he going to do this is one of the big questions in Brazilian football because he's he's very very charismatic he's one of those players who are. Kids who support. Other teams also reacting to because of the goals of the schools in a way that it the way that he celebrates those very happy where he is but he's 23 if he doesn't go back to Europe now we ever get the chance you know the European clubs are increasingly reluctant to bring in players in the mid twenty's from South America they want to bring I mean as teenagers so if he leaves it to long that chance my God now for me I would like to but he still on loan from into Milan for one I would like to would like to buy him definitively. And I'm fascinated to see him in the Club World Cup against a better quality of defender than he's been facing over here I think one I think there are a number of reasons for his problems one of them is he's one of those strikers who's not particularly well suited to 4231 or 433 in that he's not an out number 9 and he's not really a winger he's much much more suited to fall for 2 with a pair of strikers that gives him the flexibility to wander around to drop deep to run at the opposing defense and Flamengo have basically played a 442 that's been one of the things that's got this got the best out of him. That he might be at the top level a little bit to one forty's is very very left footed and at the top level as a striker you can't line it up like a golf shot. You got to take it to you as it comes and. That his right foot may not be good enough to be really outstanding as a center forward or at the very highest level and the other problem has been his temperament and he scored a lot of goals be picks up as many cards he's petulant is mean spoilt and I think that was a problem also in Europe so if there is a Liverpool Flamengo final in this Club World Cup and you shouldn't take these things for granted both sides have semifinals to. It's a plight she was dying Wednesday before the final on Saturday I'm really looking forward to seeing him up against Virgil van Dyke because that's the side of the field that he likes to operate cutting in from the right it's the very side of the feel better now Virgil van Dyke is the left sided center back so they would be in direct opposition so that's one clash that I'm really looking forward to see it is the most inferior to think this is striker line up was shot like it's nuclear show or goal show because you literally watching it you literally get the opportunity to scream a sheep like 4 or 5 times. You know it was a monument at that there's a bit sneak a commentary that always makes me laugh It's now is that the whispering fellow used to do any society or he scene he seems to be looking at a possible plant and if you write that down and think about it literally just ludicrous and you seem to be looking at a possible planet but sometimes you've got time to think that to yourself what a strike is learning to shut up well it's real ones they don't use that time it's in the back of the net no backlift the keeper can't react in about it and indeed it's not just our listeners the instant responses by the way you'll be pleased to know I'm pleased in a way because it crossed my mind right thought Now let's stick to the football reasons as. To why we're comparing Jack greenish to Michel Platini But thank you nevertheless for pointing out Jake in Dundalk in Ireland what other permutations there might have been nothing of the sort crossed my mind and I'm not the only one I'm not the only one you Tim have been told off here as well. Let me find out what I thought it was what I don't need I say what I thought out so you say what you did you had the audacity to suggest that Matt Le Tissier should have their stuff and even as you said I was trying to save you from now on I was going to say yeah but he was one of those individual players that wouldn't necessarily fit in anywhere else in the same. Around him and Nicky Basingstoke says Dawson please tell the series Making by using start now tells you everything is going to disagree kind of everyone else he's going to agree. That one of the whiter numbers in Beijing says Silly journey from Southampton here is still a journey could he could have you know his allegiances might be split but nevertheless is not this guy's. Pleased dot simply told him that meant that c.c.a. Should not have less Southampton enjoyed his football with us we loved watching him every week even Jab We loved him he was the best there oh great question about Freddie you good for you in a moment. 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If the Road Jack can tell you come about no more by Brother Ray Charles it was meant as are you paying full Chris Budden he said I should censor him for this because he's of that younger generation who probably doesn't appreciate the legend that is so brother of the original so Brother Number One Ray Charles what you think of this month every just oh I don't know that some very near. There is goes to show it transcends the generations of Yankee and they and him you love it you think this is the version dozens of tend to make him hate us Soren in London also in re our brain a brother I know he and I generally didn't know that. Oh my goodness it's going to be embarrassing for the Muslim Brotherhood it's going to be embarrassing for I never saw a Ray Charles the morning off he died I was in Floyd and I played on the edge to the blind in c.t. Way he was resident as a child I drove up there just to absorb some of the spirit of Ray Charles but that's not the same as seeing him live not once but twice so this is going to be embarrassing You see Mark. Tim So Ray Charles law I will I can say to that is that I saw a big youth alive. Which is it to be. Cool but not sure how these 2 songs yeah my laptop back to the flip. Of the song just do exactly the same as the original tells you that if you give it a. Different song but I thought a little say big oh whoa Sam would say you. Should be someone you don't mean you still don't you have to have a sense because there's no comparison. There's the originals are still in a crisis of course in this one case I think Mark has got a point when you hear a cover version. And something i Generation Yeah exactly yes it did yes Ok he hasn't got the rage Let's an entirely to be a ray let you have to let Ray let's leave that to one side you have got the right let's. All excellent and that would do us a. Little pretty good but it's not as pretty as I was just saying that he has got the right leg. And that's the one thing I would say that. What big you have should have done with this he should have got the I 3 they did back him on some songs Bob Marley's backing female he should've got them to do you know that's what I keep to rove check they should go he should have got them to do that and then it would have been a killer and that's one thing let's put that aside now let's talk football got to me Freddie Ljungberg I wonder I'm coming on to that you see all pretty. Well. That's what some people are saying Have a listen to this email to Mark as a guna Can you please give me hope this is from Chris in Waikiki in Hawaii so that's a long way to hit the road jack or Freddie or Chris as a as a goon or can you please give me hope for the remainder of the 20192020 season it's ready you the right man is kid take it courage will shoot all who should be asked Tuesday manager is top 4 out of the question or is it possible that we could become the next Leeds United in flip with relegation my personal opinion is Arsenal should go all out for color and should not be experience a versatile coach in other words hit the road Freddie Ljungberg. Yes I have to agree I mean. I didn't even know where you're going to turn himself into a coach I mean you remember him as a player and he was just a player that you didn't think were become a coach you know quite quiet off the field you know. That. Oh no at all and also what really worries me is when you appoint from within and you make an assistant manager coach you think well hang on the coach is going to hired this guy was working on anything so sure the assistant has to take some of the blame for why things weren't going well. And you know you just don't have 3 new manager Pams that you normally get with a new guy so I think it's pretty clear that Freddie isn't going to get a long term now into that he's available and oversee seems the source of the q. Given Chelsea. Many close to Sky lunch a lot he won't and it keeps him going wrong laterally I mean by me got rid of him all of a sudden when they realized things just weren't right there and you know training sessions were being done properly and stuff like that I mean actually is a bit of a weird case because I was the owner of the and just. Very demanding and basically told the whole squad and I'm sure lots of you have to go on a week's retreat to try to save this season and I'm sure that you just turn around Sherman said no so therefore we all knew that once they got through the Champions League he was going to be fired maybe kind of needs a bit of a break after the chaos of Napoli and the Italian name is a vaguely I mean as a career is available and so with talent in some ways quite. Figure and he did so well that you blame him for good that he won a championship with mean that in 2000 and let me one of the worst mean and sites to ever win a lead so I would kind of go for the leg really the problem is language wise you know actual Artes Inc This was never brilliant but it seems English is certainly better than he's German which is kind of why I actually thought as well like using This is a bit better I think they've got to go try and go for a top coach like that now to crack out the rot and you know seizing vision stops with him didn't stop David Luiz understanding what he meant you need to ask a few shows he went losers they know me not me not me me understood he understood very well then if you disagree with your description of Freddie you anybody did the kind of underwear advertising the you did talk of an eyesore and surely you cannot describe them as being reserved Ok That aside he has got to pay scoring or at least he has got Pepe scoring a goal and it was a crack of a gold as well. It was an either so good player they massively overpaid for him you know somebody not totally proven themselves in the top European league with all respect to Lille and friends and you know they were saying oh there's not a lot of money around you know and then all of a sudden they find you know 72000000 from somewhere so I'm not sure they really needed him in that position when you go. Over man but going back to what you were saying. Tim was saying what for for 2 this is to be up to subsist on European football No 442 doesn't work and you come play 2 strikers oak top together who are kind of similar That's absolute nonsense if we look back in English football that's exactly what did so in Shearer your control so similar that it would each knows what Iran is doing and if your pocketing out white and cold was in the middle of the box and vice versa and I think it's obvious to me that luck is an opening and has to play together as just a normal from 2 and that means you don't in that kind of meet this strike if you can just play it by a winger and that might then help because then you go for people in the midfield you can actually dig in and help when people like Mr Ursula not be tracking back as much as they should. No no not really marks marks covered the waterfront you know I was thinking about in the terms of formation about 4 Ford soon saw without one comment already about you know formation this or current. Dalliance with different formations and why our car can bring a South American perspective to that because that's something that year ago I play a lot 442 because they they have Swat is uncovered any so you know if you've got 2 strikers like that who work together so well obviously you're going to play him it hasn't always been easy for them to get the right balance in midfield because one of the problems with it I think that the main reason that it went out of vogue and you saw this clearly in the World Cup at the start your was 1st games where they were in a very weak group and they started a couple victory but without playing particularly well the 2 in midfield can be outnumbered if you've got one left and one right you know that the central 2 can often be up against 3 and the game never really flows I think it was watching England for years when England were just wedded to 442 was really really like that so that that that I think is the problem with it and there are ways round that you can split a striker's you know with one dropping dropping back a little bit to Mike to make the 3rd man his image in sentiment field especially when when you lose possession of the ball you can play lopsided fullbacks So one is is is pushing up very very high allowing the midfielder the why midfielder that side to move into the center while the other fullback plays plays a more defensive role and you can get around it like that but one of the problems with it when it has just been a line of fall that opponents can can get more men into the center of midfield and play angle. And the angle will always be destroyed line yeah the triangle will we will beat the straight line and that's why I think it went out of vogue obviously as Marcus said the big advantage of bringing of bringing back is the possibility of playing 2 up front and having them able to play off each other so if you can do that and find a way not to be outnumbered in essential midfield I think it's still valid curious of the legend you know knows anything about Mathias Pelligrini from a studio and says David Beckham's do m.l.s. Team in Miami's just signed him as one of the key players appreciate the show's always strong join in Tacoma Washington Yeah ads by the way saw him go on line I was going to say you had by the way bigger is starting to heat up he's got 4 Yeah yeah you do wonder and authorized this to Mark as well if it's quite the right club if he's free enough to do what he wants any ol time if he would do better in a in a more ambitious expensive it's allowed near and that the new year. Pelley I've been saying for a while but I was very impressed with him when went when I saw him a few times and in general I've been really impressed with the recruitment in a molests from from South America and in general I think they do they're doing a terrific job of identifying talent so the people doing the scouting for the m.l.s. Clubs I think of done extremely well. Mojo to comment on. The run is here the right . Question is the right leak I think it's been any to me way you're just a little tired of all things are rushed I think I could have seen him prospering more of the kind of Florentine like. Maybe Newcastle with the ghost of being at Newcastle their hand is you know it's going to toughen him up and you know you've got 50000 mad fans there if you weak absolutely loving a solo. In the middle easy on the Med I know no matter where you. Need to score more goals obviously as. I think we knew what you meant I was just trying to be mischievous then roll with us hello row good out and find things for much where you couldn't from and probably from Toronto moves cold oh well remember yeah yeah there was week. Last week good to see a good defense a cool you go ahead yeah so I have a question for Tim and it's about Rex it but not the bricks if you're thinking of. Going to radio. There is. A footballing Breck set and it's the exit of really young talented Brazilian players exiting Brazil as it were for a big European club very good point yes. I'm a Real Madrid and have been for over 20 years and. Few players have excited me as much as when it's his junior and how do we go go ahead and so I want to ask him about you know I'm sure and Brazil there's a sense of pride at seeing 2 Brazilian teenagers start and score in the same game for Real Madrid as they did a few days ago but what I'm more curious about is whether people are concerned about what this means for the quality the standard of the Brazilian League and are people talking about you know how can we keep these kids in the country for longer so we can enjoy their talent at least until their early twenty's as was the case with Neymar but now it seems 1617 or even younger they're being whipped with Europe so I'd like to hear that side of Brazilians thoughts on em. Yeah you can't take them until they're 18 but these days on talent that is in the 1st team when they're established 1st team players by the time they're 18 and they're going this is not a new situation for Brazilian football this is been happening for for for 2 or 3 decades now you can see it through World Cup squads the World Cup squads of 78 and before no one foreign based 82 had one or 286 a 3 or 490 it split down the middle one of the reasons that they had problems in 909594 from 94 onwards the vast majority Dischord are based in Europe and the way that the market has gone just in recent years the European clubs have arrived at the conclusion that the gap between top level football in Europe and in South America in Brazil the gap is now so big that you gotta get them as early as possible because if you get them when they're in the Internet kind of mid twenty's you don't know if they're going to be any good you don't know if they're going to be able to adapt the football in Europe is much much more dynamic the space between the lines is much much more reduced so the whereas like 1015 years ago European clubs big European clubs would buy players that 2425 now if if if you haven't been sold by the age of 22 you really have reduced chances of making it to a big club you can still probably go to a smaller club for a lesser fee in France or something beyond that age and maybe work your way up that's the way that the market has gone and Brazilian football's had to get used to it on its It's a way that a lot of clubs look to balance the books they need some white players sales in order to balance the books and it's almost like become an export industry there is obviously huge concern about the the the. This has on the domestic game because no doubt about it it really really does lower the quality of of the of the domestic game on the other hand as you know as you pointed out a hole that there's tremendous pride that they can they can produce this this quality of players from time to time that the kind of thought goes up you know how can we get these players back and you look at the reality of Brazilian football and you just can't possibly see how you look at the calendar of the there are so many games and kind of meaningless games that the players have to apply players if the side doesn't win players can get attacked by their own fans at the airport when they come back it's not a very attractive thing and you we've gone well past that point a critical mass where in order to prove yourself as a top class player you've got to do it in class football in in Europe if you've already done it in South America there's still that big question mark against you and that that is not just a verdict from outside so in that's a verdict that the players have themselves I remember there's that unfortunately that the fellow who runs the place is going to hold and he doesn't do it anymore but quite close to where I live there is a football school where you used to give free lessons and he was really really taught in the basics of pass and move football and he got some are lots of it is graduates from this little school very humble little school went on to win professional contract all over the world and the 1st time I discovered disco was in was in 1907 and then when you talk to the kids at the age of you know 789 saying what's the dream or the dream is to play one of the big local local clubs here in Brazil go back a few years later just a few years later speak to those you know the new crop of 9 year olds what's the dream Real Madrid and Barcelona you know that the generations of now have grown up globalized and I would ask them you know in 19 year old kids why Real Madrid over. Sloan but they couldn't a found spine on the map but they had in their idea in their heads they are they are they that it's better there and it's hard to see how that balances is going to be river dressed because even if Brazilian football could compete in terms of salaries and it can't but even if it could you would still have the problem that the greatest players from the forefront calling other all corners of the world would still be congregating in Europe and that's where you got to go to prove yourself as a as a great player so for the time being I can't see any solution although there is always space for those who are coming back and those who haven't quite come off on the Flamingo side or champions of South America you can clearly see that the goalkeeper and both full backs are veterans who had their time in Europe and came back a century midfielders Yes and he was it was in Europe he was in Italy for 43 years did alright but not good enough he's come back the 2 strikers in magnificent full. We talked about early on and blue knowing he cues probably even better both went to Europe and did absolutely nothing so it's a little bit like you know there is room for players who go to Real Madrid and Barcelona and don't come off air or can't get in the team where they can go somewhere else and in the same way there is room for Brazilian football to repatch rate some of those players who haven't quite settled in in Europe and that I think has been one of the secrets of Flamingo success this year Rose you again a European perspective on this given that it's bricks and you know I mean. Had to be wonderful new to market Well yeah indeed what one of these could go to save themselves the road Madrid's a bus loads. Well from their perspective they just want the best players that they are yes Ok so you know selling if you motionless in South America as well and it's a bit of a swagger as well just bringing in a Brazilian player your own players are saying oh this guy must be go to from Brazil because it how could Brazilian players have been in the past and also you know presume football is just do things sometimes the European football wouldn't just excite the crowd and you know run for the entire defense like the old Ranallo used to do so it definitely lifts a European league as well because it just reinforces the message yes this is the Crandell a crime the old you know the new son. Is there something to say the same thing I just managed to control myself I thought no it's not true that that's not my club point but yeah you know that great Brazilian some young. You see where this question about Briggs is taking his row with that in the lead in Syria. Exactly the sort of exactly. The follow up question to you and your. So with what somebody like Cinesias might make my next concern of you know what a player like him moving to Real Madrid at such a young age does for have a development. But last season he he was he did a great job because he introduced some freshness and vibrancy to a very stale real side for the fans to media darling everything was great now this season the there's there's some frustration which I think of ludicrous honestly for many fans at the fact that he doesn't create or doesn't score a lot of calls there isn't a lot of and product yet and there's a lot of pressure being placed on him to do to score a bunch of goals and people forget that he is still a teenager and worried a sort of about whether that's going to end up with him and with his creativity being knocked out of him because of the pressure of playing for real it's such a young age and I don't have the same concern with Rod regal because he seems a different breed one who incredibly calm on the ball and just knows where you want to. Go thinking when he when he's on the ball it is a remarkable talent. I think back a little bit with that problem of instant judgments and he's so far ahead of where people thought he would be. He still well there's no reason for him to be frustrated at least still miking terrific progress and he will eventually become senior. At. The. 3. Good morning this is up or not on fire. Alleghenies on 5 Live boys Johnson's urging people across the u.k. To heal their divisions over breaks it and in sports a new deal but can Liverpool surpass Arsenal's Invincibles. This is b.b.c. 5 live with the b.b.c. 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Colorada d.c. 5 lines it was a night to remember. This has been given a power and exceptional case of the s.n.p. . To forget. In any future general election campaign what's so. Interesting thing is. To. Follow our coverage of the repercussions of election 29 c. E.c. Radio. 5 Live boxing and Joshua Jones Mike Costello and Steve Bunce the day off the beating and the release in Saudi Arabia it reflects on the experience this is a pre recorded podcast the police text will cool and you can hit the post in full. Sounds. B.b.c. Sounds music radio put costs. But after an amazing week in Saudi Arabia. Boxing with Costello comes to you from the fine tower high above the plush lawn where the way it took place on Friday afternoon and here in the restaurant to the top of the tower we're joined by the man who almost 24 hours ago became a 2 time heavyweight champion of the world and today thanks for joining us thank you. Know speaking to me for 2 weeks we can some good books in and it's good to catch up. Before. It's good to be on the couch and yeah when you know when you're 16. Memorable nights away. How does this compare. To be number one but when I 1st why. The title with Charles Martin I don't feel like I took in everything happened so fast and I'm still learning I'm still experiencing so much that I didn't really grasp what actually being a heavyweight champ of the war was about only until I lost it and I saw from the other side of the corner Ari Mexico what it was like to be a very chamber of the won't not when I want to bed so I could down in this time when even though I know it shows you all work hard and you can see that because there's people out there that's going to take it from you I just know that like being every chamber of the world means a lot to myself it means a lot to a lot of people to know me so this for me will probably right close. If not just one of the lessons if you across the 2 fights about yourself as a fighter and an a man as a fire as a man as a fighter. Maybe not to take fire special notice especially chump shit level to put a pressure on yourself a feeling. You have to really be if you want to stay champion for a long time because this should have been another defense to my title will not become a 2nd becoming a 2 time champion so often you can never taken apart a lightly you have to be 110 percent focused on the opponent and as a man I believe that I have to trust more news things as well. Things that I want to work on. You know that sort of things I know that maybe we can this and I just have to speak with my coaches and express them really and we have to find those weaknesses and identify them so there are 2 things trust your own instincts and make sure you push your creativity for when you're working with people. And just understand what you're doing when you're doing it because once it's gone. Luckily I got it back by could have been really difficult to get it back so I'm just in a lucky position to be sitting there as they were tempted to walk they seem to me from the outside looking in and again reflecting on my fight that. It was a case last night if you fight in your fight oh yeah fight the media's fight for the fans fight yeah the fight that you give him time I felt like. Because you said the found fight the media fight is the one it was a fight he went down he got out he went down and he got up and this and that but enough for the found fight would be the fight for me to fight for victory because there's nothing. The next day when it was is what happened what on Champ one yeah. That's more important to me going in there and slugging it out and leaving. The judges or a 5050 shot. For the main the main thing for me is just to walk him be victorious and then they will say it's Ok. I'm going to want more important more. Something more important for my fans to talk about then yeah he was doing great for 12 rounds and he just got caught in the last 10 seconds but. That's not good enough they want they want to know that I want and that was the main problem. And they're going to try and take it back a little bit I wish I wish I could do a little bit hypnosis stuff you know that they used to there was big in the ninety's so you'd look at me not Ok and now just relax relax I want to take you back to June. And it's I get back to 5 o'clock in the off yeah I'm going to take it back to Sheffield a couple weeks ago and you told us this put you on the spot a little bit Gloria to go out last night you wanted to for the 2nd time you got plenty of money printing glory everyone loves you we're going to your question you promised us you do. You promised us want to go but I'm going to help you I don't know why you make excuses you know that there was there was 2 that we did this to. Talk about somebody's life issue my health. Which I was going for a long time I didn't know what was wrong with me just felt like tired and drained and I just thought I must be down to training and then I got myself so I don't know I feel when I see a $1000000.00 So. It was weird even in the changing room before the flight I was like hoss one of the guys can just get me a bucket of ice in the shop in my head. What I feel so tired and you could see these type of things when I was in the ring. And the responsibilities of being a champion is difficult especially at such a stage. I had didn't have 20 off ice when you fly in every other month it was just 16 fights and like giving 90 the boats wasn't I was giving them away I really want to be had which I'm going to just offload the pressure off me for 5 minutes so what type of stuff. Did you have an obligation and stuff like that so in addition to get rid of whatever that was medically find that it was and get rid of it yes totally different man now that you know not only what we said all week you look at the the man but you're a different man because you're not the man now in 6 months or 7 months is going to go into a fire and say you know well just that the bill has been too much pressure going to happen again is it because I feel I've got energy I do it. I haven't missed the training session you know it's sometimes when you're in can you plan for a great free month so great a weeks 2 months there's always stuff they get in the way you get tired and whatever can happen but this time I went straight away fruit for good I'm hungry so what was the problem last time or. Not and. Just felt tired and now feel good and that's important for why it's a feel good happy fly is a good fire if you felt like that this week would you have pulled out. Because I want to know what it was but as far as type of the training. Means our discretion don't get inspired thinking if this guy is give a good enough shopping I'm going to collapse just to fly. And he shows a spirit me to fly through anything so you know even with the last fight and he just kept on hitting me in the back of my head and I just dropped in. I said no it was wrong of me by shows and after my checkups and stuff to all of this what the problem was and where you want to saw it. Even in this camp I had an operation done an operation and because I've been training since like June the 20 if I had no issues with quite a bit myself saw it in having a few weeks or a cover and game but to train in that's what I mean so it's so important to stay active even when you're not training for a fight because of the pressure of anything that you have to take care of during a training camp What was the operation. Never Said away. Questions. You might as well you might as well as George is in the job and he's going to be polite and kind of trying to make it and he says Ok where was your question. When I was he was a surgeon and I remember I just won the well itself a 2nd time when the rounds I was exhausted wanted him to. Be there. Not by me so I don't. Step back out of the. Feel good back. And I'm already thinking about what's next and how soon it can be because I don't want to leave it to you you know too far ahead and then anything happens in that period of time I just want to stay focused so where are we going next I mean I'm not unique He's been really different he's felt different you thinking about going somewhere else in the world but London but back in Finchley back in Sheffield books in my head down. Fighting location elsewhere probably. Mentioned or are too good to me and it's that in theory in fear we couldn't possibly be to win. Against day which is always a whatever that is alone knows exactly what we're thinking when is there in favor of the intel that. Stops me from fly and so fly so you go way to June or up the way how many months is 7 months if you could do you think is going to be difficult to hold on to all 3 bells I think it's a cli. If there is. One of them and the trees provide an eye when one step at a time so they speak in the future but right now when let's say. Whoever fly I would love to fly the winner of that flight so they can. Fly around March early watch late March just after them and then the winner of them to. The winner me and the friend in my toes again. And then one I will fight next year and then another fight would you like 3 fights. I don't know how quick you can turn around the shows I would definitely continue to fight. With you like Yeah you know what you were saying earlier on about how it was a relief to not be world champion for a while yeah given how we work with pay per view and amount of high concern and media what you go to can you do 3 fights a year you know it's actually nice to say no sometimes not being the champion it was actually nice to say to the in the team like these guys want to do it in the wrong way to champion champion it was nice actually I was just folks on the flight . Free food so yeah I just got to keep the same attitude is like Hold on guys that the box is the most important thing. Not my mouth talk and stay true to that please if you let me win this time I promise you all the. Then you were Didn't you don't believe if you want to do it you can do it in the. Public on again because you had to fight the adrenaline was running you've challenged anybody out that it needs help reach out to me I'm your guy did I say that you say you know what it was I say that. And a lot of requests do come through so should you decide you're a role model you also want to preserve. The bank so people wouldn't have reach out to. People people think that's a joke you know and they've asked me about it I said No I'm telling you go to the gym in Finchley down to the gym not going to Dorney might be doing a Wednesday afternoon in the gym on a Wednesday off the middle of the way. Why because we train and I stayed up about 23 hours after anyway and now on the train in like for a fight sometimes I go in and do the pads for the crosses and stuff but I want to kids and it's cos you know boxes and boxes are great sport you think they were affected by you not being champion. They root for me is hope you're you want to achieve what you see like as always in my gym before and they spoke about him being a baby champion and the ambition was to be a champion and then turn professional because we had us in the bar Luckily we went one above so if I can give some inspiration to the next kid in that gym imagine what they're going to go on to achieve so we went to the Olympics championships this kid might be 2 time Olympic champion. And could a division whatever they desire as long as they can see it they can believe in achieve it so when it was taken away imagine I would have gone back and say look I tried so I just lose the belief that motivation for these kids but if I go back and give them a talking to leave those boats in the gym for them to see that will spark some thinking one of those kids are going to do something special and I mean yeah I think it will well they're waving at us again so it's printed. Books in the coast. And if the out of the nation they motivate me I'll. Or the boy spies before i Books. Because they're always phenomenal hit and hit that's what I hope this was about. How important your win was to them as well yeah. To them but I look up to you go down there would have both to say listen you. Make you wait so yourself was too late I made a mistake and go to deliberate and say Now go away in about 4 years get it right no . Because it's $77.00 pounds of the Mexica b.s. . But he did that. Thank you very much Greg. Thank you so I was Antony news on to his next media commitment here in the restaurants high up in the tower above him where they took place on Friday as I said earlier your thoughts on what Anthony had to say. Was straight to the point of what he was relaxed he was absolutely exhausted as the premier Mike he looked like we could afford a blanket over him didn't the lights at that little private chat that we wish everybody Ed and he could have honestly. I'm glad we didn't talk to him too much about the flight because we saw that last night we live there and I'm pleased we pushed him a little bit on the situation we're going to read about that as you heard if you listened you heard people shouting from the for from the saw it's in the book it's in the book. There was a moment there when it was a little bit of fear on his face maybe that maybe the 1st. Fear when he thought you were going to really really. Violent. And I don't know why they got no Shravan they can no longer run in. 100 Me is in 10 seconds while doing 11 seconds or what I can't jump what sounds like to me here the relentless nature of training and training and training and mental stress as well all the time thinking about the next big race the next big event coming up in his. Sense the next big fight coming up that Richie would always gave you a huge hug as you walked in 1st time he seen you cheering fight wake What have you made of him generally they said we passed discussing the fight now but just his general demeanor champion again Well I think we all recognize from the 1st contest that he wasn't right and he wasn't a percent fits and then I think he's more or less saying that he wasn't 100 percent fit there was something wrong and you know obviously it's been put right now percent and he's Before the way so that just shows that he wasn't wasn't that last contest yes I agree with Steve I think I would obviously we got to bed. In the early I was lost we got back to the hotel and when I went going to my bed all are literally although it was really really early in the morning I couldn't I couldn't sleep for about half an hour for 5 minutes because the because the baggage go into my head so what must have been lying friends and Josh he probably hasn't gone to bed turns and. Now it's catching up on him and that's what he looks like he has be neutral ground but it turns out it was out in the desert with one of the princes one of the many princes they went out for some kind of sort of celebration now under the stars in social Bedouin style so the celebration music for drives and tents and stars and I'd like to embellish it more but you never know it might be a complete invention but we're going to go there were found. There were found camels and dates and what a face they had celebrated beautiful. Not just looking at some of the. I wouldn't call it backlash but some of the reviews of performance and dismissing it as boring and tedious and I was talking to. Today and it struck me that had Andy really to me after winning the 1st fight not being tied in the contract to a rematch clause and just say for example he decided he didn't want any major rematch and he fights instead for massive money Tyson Fury and Tyson. Tyson Fury is hailed as a monster craftsman Now that's not a dig I'm just that's what that's a fact he wouldn't be inhaled for producing that very same performance. Showed another side of him and it's also that he can only develop as little conversation that he had with. That was that was. New you will. Be Back to do different things. In the future. A nice mix of what we saw. Slightly. He talks about. That's not cheap Chad. But. If he gets clipped. One of the problems I think. With a.j. Is. You can only coach a box. To box and to fight and he. Can be a problem because he. Can be a problem because that dictates how you could have bought. You move into the middle range where you shouldn't be which he did last time and that's when you look so for 12 rooms to keep his distance and to keep disciplined a listen to his cool and carry out the game plan I think honestly it's it is good it is good a mental contest than it is a physical contest always just him as impressed for his mental strength and his physical strength. Then what it is it is one hour for us going to last the last night but it was quite light we'd finished is the Joshua. Joshua. Could be and cools while the real problem is that fluid concentrated boxing causes the problems and he causes Tyson Fury problems and it's interesting looking at the bookmakers reaction to Anthony Joshua's win last night he's still 2nd favorite against Tyson Fury and against the Waldron fury would start favorite against him but he's almost even money in all of those contests so against Tyson Fury. Against Anthony Joshua Tyson Fury against Anthony Joshua all of those contests are almost even money the pair of them with most of the the main bookmakers So that tells you where we are now he's back on that top tiple but we're right back on that top. On the cusp possibly how long we've been saying this but. You know when when you see that those fights where the weak see them is 5050 or not the book Mike has actually have them as even money shots virtually is very very close to even money in all cases in those permutations and combinations so we could possibly over the next 2 years have this era that we've been so long talking about and he's talking about next coming back to London he said either at Tottenham or maybe even they say looks like we are going to see Anthony Joshua's next fight in the u.k. And I know like. And I don't think Mark is going to be too far away because he wants to he's got the feel good factor he knows each. On a regular basis 3 times a year it's a year and I think he can do it. He's got the hunger back and he wants to keep boxing because he knows he's boxing regular he's boxing us he's best deep down he knows one and one sentence from each of you it's the 1st fight next I think it will be a guy like. Richie I would rule out the want Yeah I'm thinking might be next it Dillon what I'm doing next year make sort of sense in the world you can't have cleared it why not I got on that's perfect and talking about exotic stave as we wind down now from here in Saudi Arabia set to move off to the airport your thoughts final thoughts on a week mad weekend in Saudi Arabia. It's been really long and hard not don't know why it's been so long and maybe it's the traffic maybe it's the just that we've stuck with it we've done everything I've liked it a lot of criticism. Social media for being a cheerleader for the Saudi Arabian regime we discussed it 2 and a half months ago and I'll put it to bed now. Absolutely adored our time here and. The time we had. That experience and the fight itself was great my it was a. Great event Richard you came in the light your impressions your impressions and never knew you could heard camels the way. That was annoy. Me which is tremendous Yeah I think it's newbie to territory and the positive signs are taught from the actual show itself and the crowd was that was that they appreciated good box in. The cheers lots of people there and which is it which is a great song so I think we will be coming back here. In the future to choose to move. We've seen a not yob enjoy the experience. Where people appreciate boxing and I have enjoyed it. Has. Enjoyed the food the culture Yeah it's been noise and you know what well at the box in the arena there was no drink there's no booze obviously here and people it was it was a good atmosphere people would. Have balls there were coffee bars. Alcohol bars and that was nice to see everyone behaved themselves I thought it was a cracking show you know my we were white and downstairs to come up here different fans came across a guy from Poland came across and there were a couple of Londoners. Londoners I should Londoners a black guy from the Midlands in another village and they all said the same thing you know I've missed the train it was great last night all and they all said the same thing that's been brilliant and still laughing in the background celebrating his victory almost 24 hours ago Rich if you could just pass that mark a fine on to the Fed I sat to your left after you said jackers worked harder than all of us here this week Jack your final thoughts are Jackie last word. Are you going to. Pay for a script. So I wrote down earlier it's going to be a long time came a pause I. Know what I was expecting. Things this of any sort of it's just starts. To become aware of in terms of the way the society. You know for example the Book of. Table in a restaurant I was asked to fill in the single section of the family section so most restaurants it's men only that that's the single section and then there's a special section for the family so I think I think we've had a different experience here being a group of men than if we. Woman So it's kind of hard to talk about that one thing that this struck me as well just randomly there's no culture of recycling whatsoever there's a lot of likes in Greece plastics like tiny little bottles of water things like that so a lot of progress needs be made on that front but in terms of the way it is going to it's been a lot different than I expected and you know when you're when you're out Kevin like this always a privilege to have such amazing experiences great stuff Jack thanks for your office and thank you also we've been blown away by the sheer volume of responses from everybody listening to the show and because it's been so hectic we haven't managed to refer to any of those reviews any mouse that we've had that we haven't been named or in use for sure so when we get back to normal back in the u.k. 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Class arsenal against Manchester City from 4 a league is your full station this is. For breakfast with Chris Warburton and I will not Oldroyd his hair in half an hour but 1st Chris Sutton I was through Bruce Spall and man Dave go head to head in a fantasy football battle this is a pretty recorded program so please don't call or text and hit the fan to see 66 point in full head to the b.b.c. Sounds. Fun to see 606 cards with a list of words full on Chris. It's that's a problem that's a little disappointing Chris because we promised that man Davies be in that intro. And it's not there for happened then what was what I know I don't know maybe they've decided he's not. Given enough to the pod yet there is no other left of the stripes yet that's a bit harsh though Dave you're a key element. What could be better how you a little bit. More really is what it is you guys are you guys with the feeling is you know you know you know heroes in the game I'm just a mere mortal right this is fantasy 606 game week 6 days been gone game week 17 is on the way and Dave actually on time this morning and on time Dave off to your office Christmas party which which is which is a remarkable achievement as that must mean wild was not Oh absolutely there was stuff flown around spreadsheets it was just got out of them that really did what do what do you do oh no an anorak party what will we did the anorak sport of the crystal maze my team was victorious I've made it seems fair but we were still amazed I just explained so that's doing so basically loads a little challenges for zones you go for the challenges are the physical mental Mistry Well that's one I did all the physical ones I got 2 outs are still so out of hundreds that record a much I'll enjoy. That will be that will play out are not just talk about yourself how did you take over team was actually why I like them I sat back and let them you know let them get involved they took all the crystals I got 2 out of the 30 we got so you know was a team effort who picked the things I did you strengthen your own hand a bit though I thought I was going to completely imbalance the teams before I wouldn't be you know it would be as fun so I did actually meet them to a point at which anyone only does anyone outside of your office get invited to the course I mean could Chris and I've been invited to the hall or will you not since it is no use trying to try to be just for the team you know obviously we've we could have another event with you I want come we could do you know in front of the 606 point. Plan to greatly defines us and I believe me. You're the most Ok right leader board a.j. Leaderboard after game week 6 day and Chris I mean you've been a little down by over the last couple of weeks about fantasy football but you off lying now you really are flying it got a bit lucky you know had words with my sister and yeah I have. Still enjoy he's hanging on in I wouldn't say things things are particularly great in this affected our family life but you know these things happen you have to you know you times you have to have words yeah you know he needed to hear the truth and and he got the truth well you I mean I don't know who made the calls here but 78 points you actually hammered me in Dave this week and you have always and you've actually made 40 points on me Chris over the last 2 weeks. Good how exciting I speak so massive so so I got 58 which puts going on your that's quite good as well body Vadi save me bodies I mean on the Sunday against Villa so I'm a 913 Davies 33 points behind me on 880 day at 56 points this week is appointing everybody I Green Chris with the 78 is now just 35 behind De a lot of. Good behind me so it's it's now it up and and actually your December schools because basically on the pod at the moment you're listening to oldest in September manager of the month Chris Sutton type of manager of the month. And November manager of the month stat man day in December after 2 game weeks Chrissy's on 142.0 Great Dave is on 139 and a.b. Bait just a 102 minor incidents dropping off yeah yeah can I just say well done to all of you know defeat is good competitive and the big news the really big news in the week just away from the league we have all qualified for the Cup not great news we are in great need of the fantasy football so I asked him for a bit what's he what we need 54 points to get in there you got 56 I go 58 so we really did squeak and yeah and so later in the pot I'm going to bring in new so I know who we will draw on in the Cup What do you mean you go other lost you got 54.0 to get into the cup Chris you need to school 54 points in game week Yeah but that's lightly unfair isn't on the ones who are ranked. About who does I wake isn't it the way they work it Chris is the way they were only for isn't it alright Tana for example our leader in fantasy 606 if he had a poor weak he might not qualify for the Can I did a can when I know he's 18 he's on 1109 which gives him in our league in fantasy 606 a lead of 71 over a guy called Jack Hewitt where I can't read his team name Chris because it's root so I know give us a clue no. I can't well the 2nd part of the words house. It's something house f c dot com I gotta go is looking gamesmanship that madhouse bit rate in that Chris . And the other play we like to keep an eye on of course is Joe sand Oh oh did he get it's sand in the cup signs in the car but. I don't know he's got he's not got you've not been drawn together in a dress certainly qualified definitely qualify because he actually scored 2 more points than you last week he got 80 and he's changed his team name again and it's called 200 points more than Sutton by Christmas is that the best they can do it is and at the moment percent at the moment a sign gets stuck up the chimney. At the moment he's got a lead of 113 every 600 I can see it now Chris the way you're going the way you go . So Chris just looking at your table for game week 16 thank you Ok so you in all a big powwow big falling out he's kept his job Rasha listen comes in for Daniel James whose decision must now is that he's always right you're right what about the coal he worked you see all result of ingenuity being him in vivid and got this week there just you know it's just you know I think it will be a good school that he scored in his last 3 games which shows are you saying the only only made that goal we had a little raw about for you to not so even any school than I did take the 3rd world . So Michelle isn't Richelle us and I actually I She takes a dive in the wake has made me look like a right Charlie son because I I took him out a boy I mean for one week against war but he didn't score I took him out and then he goes bang bang bang and schools in 3 consecutive weeks you Captain Chris was that your colt Yeah but yeah that was the logical call and Kane you know thought disappointed me this season I don't know if I keep giving Cain a kick Cape Colony a finger are you have not done enough rash good got 9 points Chris that now vats was part of your wild card switch around and that the moment is looking a really good call because I think Dave in the overall game this week most transferred in players Marcus Rushford is the top of the list and then next games you just said. They got what food they got Newcastle they got burned he's a good striker to have isn't a yes absolutely don't do do well against all they haven't done well is that fair to say they think this is this could be the turning point I think of the broad of those 2 games last week I think kind of obviously changed Manchester United's feel of the season I think the confidence is coming back into those players Rushford on the left wing has been directly involved in 11 goals in 10 games he's played you think or you know Dave I think. It's around in the brain you know it's coming out it could be that little tweak and I think Duncan Ferguson's of us and were fantastic last week and it'll be a competitive game that he get through the test as well I think the confidence might come back Paul Pogba return in could be worth Chris or maybe get some movement as United plays it if they be ever to Ok rush but I'm a guava Chris and you've got to have you just don't rush for just 100 Yeah Russia Russia and it basically any anything I can fight Rushford with is a brand by the I've not got rush for it but I do have Tommy Abraham who's just excellent He's my own well done things not just saying I'm Just because people will be interested in my team as well as probably will to not really say no no I'm just saying that's what I'm going to get some ideas when I normally Captain him. Chris what about what about transfers this week yeah go on then tell me what you're doing game week 17 if you're prepared I don't I don't really want to tell because what's his name Tana will call me your name is that I might do yeah all of brought in because I you know I needed to improve things. Need to get better can only get better in a number of Danny ngs and in your role in a ng for us good for her but why. Is it go yeah yeah yeah yeah you can imagine the rider which we had wide back while I was like it was a day well the reason should be crazy falling out the reason for that change and I could see where all he was going with that was when I got injured batch y. Had been the man that was coming off the bench to come to school the goals but actually in the following gangland pub when I could see why I wanted went back Schweiger I cannot it is only words but I'm sure about anything yes or stuff. By choice I think with that you'd probably you make that change if Tommy was out for you know a longer period of time like 2 free weeks the bit like by I made that several calls well so I think the system manager called. Out to dry this week that says to made a play station you know he you know he doesn't want to not football that's a dog who goes on play mostly for example. Chris you got to ban it just like you've been set up a Web a band ban band Play Station try Dave hit me assuming stats Dunning's in the last month scored 5 goals 2nd behind Jamie body in the last month taking his chances he got 4 big chances scored 4 goals so he's a man in form and he's a good changes is very value for Danny is fantastic so there is not a good move 39 points fantasy points in his last 5 games and his next guy is Chris West Ham and in Villar away Chelsea away moon was give you a chance to own a palace. Taught him how. And you know I do a little thought about Danny Ings as well and this is just coming off the back of my children Salzburg Yeah so I've just come back from Salzburg whereas watching Liverpool play and I know you love Salzburg and The Sound of Music and all of that and I thought here's a suggestion for Danny Ainge family Christmas card this year get the family over to Salzburg get them all kitted and The Sound of Music a family photo and you with the Austrian background and then get a little strap line at the top of the card is here a few of my favorite things. Very nice birds through. Thank you sure. Ain't Going week 16 Jack Gray came in yet Joe McGinn that was your one change 56 point sallow was was good for you wasn't he kept in a Bournemouth yet a greenish actually got 6.7 m. On I didn't play that was the same for Chris what about this coming game wakey you a you prepared to tell us what you doing well every brother to see if Psalms come into the site I think he's out of order. Just basically breaking our unwritten code of conduct in the legal copying I just think we can't ignore the stats and when they start to tell me something I have to go I think I nor Marcus rush for too much are ignored Greeley's to much I can't let slip by I think in the last month 3 goals for assists he's got the most big chance is great in the league in terms of shots he ranks in the top 10 players and if you look at how Spurs are playing through moment left wing I just have to get some Spurs coverage of them that's been been an issue for the last few weeks and Kevin the broad has not been at the same level I think I've been holding Kevin abroad for a little bit too long if I'm going to look back and think City haven't been great you could write off Kevin de Bruyne I think humans all know as the as the option is not writing him off as a good year and so on is the better option right now I'm off 1st on your question I mean there's a point here where. As as Dave gone down in your estimation these copy May That's the big question what do you know where you go on with that we have a gentlemen's agreement never seen this and when is agreement never really it's an unwritten rule isn't there because you say that's right you know I had to take a couple of hot days I think you did Chris you've been very honorable and loyal So even though I might lose to you too bad hundreds of points on when the sportsman award you know exactly exactly that's what you play for the critical Yeah it's gone it's sort of tempting me to go for Delhi alley now but I don't want to be bullied by David too much as if that was forcing me to do that and that's that's that's to make you cry so carried away with males of you yeah I do but once you get to a safe scoring points Chris. Should I worry I've got to burn and Sterling Should I worry about that they should I mean because you're obviously had enough of the brain which actually says to me I should keep him because then he's a differential against you yeah so that would be the move but at the same time. He still create you still but it's the rest of the save the rest that it's a look so shocked at the moment danger enough Man City caught on thing at the wake at the playoffs and all that the way care oh I wish I had them in my team for this weekend I could have people who are going to be cricket school stuff down at the Emirates they will tell them apart at the back Manchester City's next fall guy Austin away Christmas saying you know what channel or maybe why when some goes then they've got Leicester. Wolves away which is also tough been shifted United So yeah tricky games I want to get rid of Johnstone's this week by the way he's been he's been clogging up my team for too long so yeah Jade get him in the big Johnstone he's out I'm looking at a cheaper option maybe a shift at United defender to try and boost the coffers for something a bit further down the road seems you've got you've still got loads for him and yeah. You know you don't need from anyone the you think in the biffing him no chance to good value isn't he yeah I thought about I thought Stevens has been really good last few weeks the shadow of the terms of fun is the focal point as well as performances if any Sheffield United player you look at is not Lindstrom I'd go with a for sure it's a little bit more the reason he is 5 point one played a lot higher up the pitch you need in the sense of Oxford so I was a wee you've got the instrument already lost there are a question that has performed better in a talking sense and the right wing back says probably will be the one when you do your transfers day yet do you look so I was actually sitting down at Salzburg pole waiting to fly home and I'm quite concerned about you to closing in on me and I spent about 40 minutes on the many roads are the lovely yeah lovely Bester you know and I spent about 45 minutes working out a long term transfer strategy being one of the next seekers guy after you can appreciate a long term the trouble is that I lived a very nice you through that thing right now I mean and then that game week and then yeah only when my team is in disarray I'm assuming when I feel like my team's Ok when the guys are performing week in week out it's Ok but when you feel it for the ball you've got to get the transfer started you got to stick by a simple problem say one thing so what I've done Chris is I've written down the next 5 game weeks and if the right this week I do this this this not here is this right side but the problem is as soon as someone gets injured or a value goes up or whatever the whole thing can be actualized are exactly such a bull ring existence isn't it I mean I thought I know you know joy. And we have like an hour on the phone today couching each other. That's a better way of doing it and I bet is that maybe even for you but. Chris in the cup you have drawn Waleed as Rak Ok I have had a little look in. To the y. Leads to currently on 619 point so that's over 200 less than you overall he's in trouble Ok they joined in game week 2 Liverpool fan not made a single transfer they say so when the team at the moment is Wes Morgan Marcus alone so and didn't know even in the game. Because Manchester City have got rid of him and last week he had pulled Popper is his captain he's not played for a couple of mothers so let's keep it quiet it's an absolute give me you will marry and then I am in the care of Wally or the wallet Yeah Ok so that's Chris's drawl so I fancy I fancy Chris that. Well yeah I know it when it appeared when it was a guy next guy is this guy. Was a while call this week. Ok well that's a good point if he suddenly gets interested if you listen to this poll have an exam have a good. Day you're up against Adam Foster. And. His team is called Tinchy Schneider Ok. Now his overall score is $695.00 which is almost $200.00 less than you Ok so you know overall should be all that if I break here yeah I but last week you scored $56.00 Adam schooled 74th is going to go full day he's got k. In got manee and all. And he's got bad I cannot tell you what day you are the equivalent of Manchester United for him in the 3rd round of a cup he's normally your United you are a massive scalp for a. Really good these go. Off obviously both go. Yes basically Cain and Abel. And then saw him versus who is this big field really like I should have as a knee is going to have Yeah I'm sorry the rabbit verse is kind. Wow It's intent is Chris that's the one that I want to get out of course in this week oh now I'm up against Cole g. Family who know how late his t.v. Is Koji baby f.c. Now actually he's got the best score have the 3 that we've drawn so he's under. Age He's got 745 points Ok he's got Vadi and I perhaps I've also got body and he's got a Bama yang. As well but then city are against Arsenal so I think Dave's got the tough issues rule there I do hear you all right Bruce and if Dave goes out Chris would get that the other thing is you can play a year or it was called Can you hear people do that for the Camp David and all that about the comp Yeah I think so do I simply play for the cup you can't you can't win the Cup playing a wild card in all your bonuses this week you need to save the yeah for the Grammy to play mom when I'm in the semi I think 70 macaw final is the one I draw with. Love the price of area I'd love to put signed back in its box. This is the fantasy 606 podcast. To give it a quick photo finish on the Ok I'm going to start on I would say What we've not done we've not done it the fixtures for this week so all that conversation people be thinking who's playing who and what's happening so Liverpool Watford Burney New Castle Chelsea Bournemouth less than orange Sheffield united against Villa Southampton West Ham Manchester United Everton we did mention wolves against Tottenham Manchester City away to Austin 0 and then Palace Brighton is the Monday night game so your 1st $23.00 is at the m $26.00 the m $23.00 Darby but it's not really doggy is it that or. Is it. No I mean isn't what I do if you are I don't know but I know you have it as a rival Rick. And that all stems back to Mallory invented bills and all sorts of stuff that happened in the seventy's but bad science that of evil it's called a double I would say it's a rivalry Well you know if you insult both sets of fans were going to Chuck's and nines you here right so if you are now your Stan Kroenke keep both of your Stan Kroenke right and I want you to choose an awesome manager so you've got to kind of ignore you know contracts and what I just just the best person for this job because I have these names and actually I was listening to 6 o 6 last Sunday and also found called him one of the names for was Mick McCarthy Ok so that would be the one McCarthy Eddie Hal Chris wild. Patrick Vieira McHale offset the approach of Tino Kahlo and she Lottie who you have in as you're also Polish Chris is gone part straight in if he really ever read call on Julie's or biographies what's it called There's a few that I think of the 2 of them but both of them the fixates alone pastor and poor obsolete love it spends like a good got 2 or 3 trucks literally destructed about like Rob how is it come from the mound see the bit whether whether the pork school of Robert is a love call or book No I think is the God particle I got most of the. Dollars is the. Car launch along with us so that's a dream come true again as. I've never heard you so excited not at all honestly you know. Really what is modern and why basically has what to go for dinner with call and you'll see once I think it also to say should all excited about something is not numbers or stat related That's actual you know whole ultralite life things right yeah yeah good of yeah right random question and it's festive but it's actually a little bit kind of anti festive in a way because I want to last you what is your least favorite Christmas song so you're in the shops out to new Christmas shopping they've got the cd on you know you might be out there buying your whatever this. So you're out you're out there in the shops Ok and the one that comes on the song. 'd the song that comes on and just drives you cry and actually have to walk out the shop because you just I'm sorry that one last August I've got they the one that really bugs me is the. The slight Merry Christmas everyone which started. Really now for me that's just a no yeah he. Thinks that I can now. Well you know come on one of you are going I think this is what this is all that you know you know very terrible on all of the Christmas. Yeah. Yeah this is not really Christmas I've always enjoyed that the moment he's discovered that he's playing that quite a lot and I'm trying I'm trying to get him always is. That the rules are that yeah you know he likes that he does like it after last Christmas Yeah you know so I don't know we're going to get much sense that Chris he's going to go on because of the injury he said. It's. Like on as an. Average Thank you. stories of the day so far is clear had returned Thanks Lou Good morning Boris Johnson will visit the north of England today where traditional Labor supporters helped him achieve the largest conservative victory for more than 30 years after securing a majority of 80 seats the prime minister insisted he wanted to earn the trust of Bragg's its supporters who had lent his party their votes the Local Government Secretary Robert generate and knowledge that the Conservatives had to all of the support from new Tory voters we're very grateful for these traditional They votes in many cases lending us their support on this occasion perhaps because of Bragg's that we need to earn that trust now and we hopefully will have fun.

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Just. Another astonishing Late Late Show from the red cent how many times have we seen that this season and I can tell you with 79 minutes gone and much the city needing a late late show it's Newcastle won the Manchester City acts and changes that said run through the 2 sides feel the pull Alison and go trying to Alex out the Ronald day and a lot of dykes and the robots in a chill. Now listen to me while the album and Alex oxalate shebeen no for being of course they're no for being you know until the new year that is a savage blow for the Reds We knew he was suspended Of course the day after that booking at Selhurst Park but are picked up are an ankle ligaments injury in midweek in there that game in the Champions League a front 3 have Salaf Ameena man a on the bench for the Reds add Rianne James Milner Nabby Katie. Adam Lallana Kiri and a Regi and Brighton have Matt Ryan in goal a back 4 for them of Martin Montoya Adam Webster Lewistown and Dan Band It's a midfield 5 of Pascal gross Davey proper Eve pursue my tale Stevens and Aaron Morey possibly Stevens sitting in front of that back 4 and perhaps more like a 414 want the lone striker not Neil Mo bides arrant Comolli the youngster who's come in and made to a bit of a name for itself has been a Over the past few weeks at Brighton it's only the season and their subs button Duffy Mopar I. Marry she lotto and hours at a referee is Mr Martin Achatz and he's assisted by Lee Betts and Daniel Cooke and of course the all important people at Stuckey park the crate Porson and his assistant at and t. Garrett the staff to me You're listening to Merseyside sport for commentary to come on Liverpool versus Brighton from your 1st station before p.b.c. Radio Merseyside and of course we've got the football phone in come the end of the 90 minutes we'd like your thoughts on what you've seen from Liverpool so far today and what you've seen from them also so far this season it has been an absolutely astonishing start to the campaign for the Reds but the. Last few days have been really difficult ones for all of the Pool fans and dreadful ones for the hills pro-family of course yanking club gave us his response to those days that ticked at Preston Crown Court when they can say that all thoughts and all of his with the families and depth of them goes I can imagine it's a big disappointment big big frustration and sadness of course that this is looks like the final verdict and so I'm I can understand all 4 years in a stand up so to met not only moderate but moderate more often than other people and I respect a lot whole bunch how much they fought how long they fought and it shows how much it means and meant to them and. So that's. That said but apart from that we have. Better people in the club who send the right messages about that but we are there for them 100 percent. And when expect a full show of support from the Liverpool fans today after the fact at their dick in midweek certainly not going the way of the Hillsborough families and of course everybody connected with the club and the reds have been doubt a blow at that busy December Chad you as I mentioned when we gave you the team used opinio missing until the new year after enjoying a good months in the draw against Napoli on Wednesday he was suspended after calls for today's game with bright now after picking up that booking get sad last park against Crystal Palace a week ago yet in club do you have a number of options to replace the Brazilian Of course that's bad news I think good to say about that so. About a time for frame ah long it will take me on the actual 100 percent but there are with looks pretty sure that he will not be involved. In the Christmas fictious I miss a lot of years so that obviously takes a while we have of course solutions for that position you have to replace him he can replace him with played without him play good without him that's all Ok but now it's important he gets to in the right things and in the movie bag as soon as possible and until then yes we have to find solutions as always we are not the only team that enjoy players so that's what we have to deal with and we will it is something losing for. Me No doubt there's no getting away from it but you have decent players playing in that position before he arrived and it's just a case of trying to maintain those levels but it is an opportunity for some decent That's how it is and of course. Preparation for the novelty game for example of course and I'll be going from last year a little bit too much for the little bit and. And the play the position Cheney plates the position already at Milan applied to position we can change system we can do a different thing so I said losing a player with the quality of a 1000000000 euro speak is myself rated but you want to push that moment as far as possible to the end of the year because always in this period 2 weeks all Jim is 6 games so that's how it is but that's not the case be content any more and we have to find a solution to find a solution and Vidia be exactly like I'll be doing of course not because nobody's like the other one but it will be a good one and then we have to play football and we have to win football games again and that's what you say you know my kid even if you think playing the game do you see that it's a joke won't play get over the game you can. Go make decisions have to see The 3 Bears I mentioned already they played that position plenty of games so that's not a problem in mass a he's nobody's like him and that's true because we are individuals not that nobody's as good as him as different quality for the other players he came on in the game and was brilliant for example. I would not only there but handle played a position as well really really good that's it's not the fault. Of all that we just have to make it work and that's anyway always drop and he could have played up could have played all the games from now until the model that was very clear so it's not cool 'd but we are in contact with him here we have everything we think a lot about it but not in the case that we all think oh my God how can we deal with it it's just that's to the right thing to puff up and it's right thing for the team and then that's Korea that's carry all indeed I can tell you that much the city have got a 2nd goal just to see Pullman to chop that remaining acts and James's Park Kevin deployed to ask what city to want to front against Newcastle. Interesting is that when you look at Liverpool's options with no for Peano you can go more or less the like for like and dropping James Milner or possibly move around James Milner to come in or or Jordan Henderson can move position the pull have got and Nappy Kater who can play in a more advanced role and also the same with Adam Lallana all possibilities and there will be a lot of changes in the month of December and given how many matches Liverpool have got Liverpool actually made their t.t. Changes between the staff their 1st fixture in December last year and their last fixture in December and they have more games of course during this campaign 30 team changes last December for the Reds so expect something similar this time around you're listening to b.b.c. Radio Sport for comment on the right to come the time now is to 50. Readiness you signed trouble snubs in days every cheese down from 6 o'clock just a final word on Robbie Savage your fitness you and yeah you. Do you know that Robbie with which he looks like you very good at it I'm also. Really and he must really miss the match they both you and I thought what it is that was going back and. Everything. With pull salt every cheese down from 6. Live at Anfield c.b.c. Radio Mazie site. And featured game in the National League don't Perceptor new chest says Brad Bradford Park Avenue let's get across to the t.v. And they say good afternoon. Good afternoon to you Mike Yeah crack a game a prospect and I really need to be for half a chance to confirm that they're in the position where they need to be where they need to be and still that there's more to come from yes. They're not sitting back on that they've signed a player who comes with a great pedigree paid in the Scottish Premier League for done day he's been playing in the National League for filed. And he was signed last night he comes straight into the starting lineup so they really are going to make a push for it now they've got a number of games obviously as every club has coming up in December and they are really looking for a reasonable return points wise and by both sharing the squad like this one of the problem positions which is a left sided midfield player to bring the slot in shows their intent and the fact that they are really going to go for it not just playoff wise possibly who knows a whisper it's possibly the championship as well but that's a long time off did they have that the look and that's it a full Baka of a team that happened within them to to be challenging for their owners that yes they do I mean like every every club that wanted to play is where they need to improve as a say the one major position they had and they haven't been able to fill it successfully has been the left side of midfield so if you can do the business for them there's only in my opinion one position they never really need to sort of sort out and if they can sort that out then they really do have the low marks of a Championship side and certainly a playoff side I mean they've only had one loss in the last 2 months that was a tone to York City possibly a little bit unlucky to lose that one but they lost by a single goal so they're not in a bad they uniform at the moment and if they can get a few wins back to back wins together then who knows they can certainly be giving a really good account of themselves I'm pushing forward about the starting lineup no real surprises rest Gryphus Ingo Jamie Morgan Danny lives the Simon Grande and Joe Taylor in Mayfield Bradley Jackson showed Clendon Gary stopped for. Up top Antony Dudley and of cause he is Santi So quite a strong side and I would expect it to be too strong for Bradford side today who as we are saying before. My bottom of the Northern table at the moment. Thank you Neil Neil will be keeping us updated with how Chester getting on and also Southport again academics there as well this afternoon Liverpool haven't been able to steamroll the teams as perhaps as they were doing last season but their record speaks for itself 12 wins from 13 Premier League games the other one of course that was a draw and former Reds defender Gary glass pieces their ability to find winch in difficult situations to gestate they do have the credentials to go all the way again this season for home in a change that would come when the sure the season is the fact that Liverpool are growing the results which in itself is a great treat the whole of but you can't ticket us no way from them you just look at the results 12 victories one draw defeats and then cities and find themselves in the position that on the got quarter you know it is the pitching quality and it is of the pitch when it really matters and people it can hurt you and I think as long as you just stay in and games and you look as if you're your own games then they've got the ability to always lay schoolie on as they have proved throughout the course of the season so far I mean there was a disallowed goal I will you did the commentary for lefty t.v. I was yeah what did you what do you make of all 1st and foremost I totally missed that literally because you fall on the ball when you see Tomkins at the far post Putin and to falter in support of an intensive properties I thought was one no for for Crystal Palace but when you look at it again the free kick that crystal power is Gore was for a little shove on Wilford saw by Alexander here on the way. Up and came and pushed him while those contact and you can't deny the fight that those contact there went down like any other player would do it and exactly the same situation was in the box with r.u. On Lauren So for me it's an or brainer the referee's got to give the decision to give counsel the goal just a word on study a man. Because I actually missed a great chance and maybe the old study a man I would let that bother him but now we seems to have that mentality where he can just get it out of his head doesn't he but I think he's I think he's grown up I think he's matured as you do as players and there's no doubt his ability and his call to I think is 21 goals you scored in the calendar year more than anybody at Liverpool I think saw as next year but with 20 or something like that 5 games are always scored against Crystal Palace or you always kinda look to him and not gain a much to be the man to make the difference and again he was and you know is a See that's what Liverpool have goal at this moment tame the people in the pitch where really can make a difference and you know there's teams that like Everton care Aston Villa Newcastle a lot of teams of the looking for players like that of that Canaille and Liverpool have got them in abundance and certainly were for me no money and sell as a main 3 and for me no of course scored which you haven't done for a while don't think anyone was getting too concerned though where they were with his lack of goals I mean I think that was the one thing you would see a bit from you know that he contributes more to the game the maybe just his goals I think if you know more hard Sollars not score nothing you may think that well what else is a given year in the team other than these maybes pieces go up so I don't think there was ever a problem with the fight the wars in school and again for me he has the he is the one player that I allude to thank you nothing he is like absolute top grade probably better than the other 2 players technically and a kiss is what really and bring in everybody else into the game as well. For Liverpool there with it want to play. Ok good let's be talking to salty not to piss on to say that if you haven't had a chance to listen to that just not to this it is an absolutely cracking programme p.p.c. Radio Merseyside every cheesy night between 6 and 7 for souls to last speech and in snow did Liverpool have the opportunity to go and the evidence points clear. I was matched to city in the race for the Premier League title. Castle to Manchester City to the late equaliser from full. Field to Jonjo Shelvey in the 88th minute from a free kick and teed up for him on the edge of the penalty area canning the right foot shot from 20 yards beyond the goalkeeper and into the back of the net city had gone in front 3 were standing before the break Jack show Williams And after 82 minutes Kevin de Bruyne City back in front of that equaliser from Georgia Chelsea. To a piece suit James is par. For last week canceled the 21 for the 7th time this season in the League Cup They sit top of the Premier League table and the Champions League despite not being with their city backs but club legend Mark Lawrenson says the results still speak for themselves greatly you know Gary all know that when you win the league you don't necessarily play well every week you probably play about I don't know maybe 10 maximum rate out the pounding games in the league so you know we don't you know because anything goes with that we keep winning that state and I'm so cerebral. Please don't even bring me into this come with. Me should be on the radio that. You would you would. Lower the amount of times he comes in and goes I don't want to talk about it there's a bit of a problem when you're on the radio with us. I mean you know if. A clot knows when he got the players know how good a side they can be but also you can only speak about your own you're playing we also knew how bad we could be so all the stuff about being on beat and everything I don't really play that bothered about that nice thing you draw that you just can't win and all the supporters of the team going are why be. So look you know they're not so lucky they just works a lot against teams that teams lose concentration and when they lose concentration against good very good teams are very good players to get chances to score and you get chances to win and that's exactly what they've been Laura what about the quality of Liverpool's sent off so obviously this Virgil van Dyke everyone knows about him Joe massive has been great but he's out injured now but then you've got someone who was a 4th choice hands off Indonesian lover and who's now coming in and doing a good job but dot com is a bit like when you and Alan Hansen you knew you had absolute. Quality breathing down your neck if you made it was all told. In Gary Gillespie you knew you couldn't you can put a foot wrong all right well listen it's absolutely tell the words and I remember went through the door start the season with so I I but I think I always said to me that our family didn't think it played very well the season before he saw that Gary had been signed to replace him and I said I think you're right out. If you just just the fact you've got outstanding quality everywhere it just keeps you on your toes and you look at the city I mean they're not standing team but no kind of center backs walk through their door like the army and they know if the fit they're going to play and that's why they're not quite as fit for me but not quite as it's a city still makes them an outstanding team but now it's very very important I think the thing with Van Dyke is well I think anyone can play with him but I'm glad Le Bron's come back and started to look at Clare and I thought much to the last 3rd the last season I thought he was as good as anybody and then you got Joe Gomez and everybody show it it's all good competition for places is great and if they're all outstanding players a new thing a club in Liverpool hills got an outstanding group not just think quality but I think the dressing room are all together I don't I don't think there's a bad apple or about whatever you want to call it and I just think you've got the other manager definitely got it no doubt about. At Liverpool legend Mark Lawrenson Liverpool Football Club have unveiled the proposed designs for a new and Field Road stand at the plans involve a new $60000.00 capacity stand increasing the overall capacity of the stadium now 261000 that's an increase of 7000 the club hope to apply for planning permission next spring and applaud the 1st stage of a consultation process the public event started yesterday another 2 will take place in the car park at Anfield Monday between 4 and 8 pm and on Tuesday from 12 till 4 o'clock chief operating officer the news has been talking to b.b.c. Radio Murphy said about the plans we're looking to get the overall capacity of them failed stadium up to $61000.00 we're looking at the majority of the saints in the new development been general admission say it's a total of an additional $7000.00 seats in the stadium These are all draft plans at the stage of course so these numbers may change but we're trying to expand on failed and create a bigger more successful venue for people to be able to come and watch the great football that's being played at the mind and in the original outline planning commission that you've mentioned I think it was an additional $4800.00 seats so what what is calls you should to go from $4800.00 up to $7000.00 with the overall footprint of the building is very similar it's a similar height similar shape a bit women looking at the internal design basically done a lot more work in the original planning application very much focused on the main stand we've clearly seen an opportunity to get just a little bit more additional capacity into the stadium which we think makes a lot of sense that a regional application and failed as a whole was built around a $60000.00 capacity into. It's a total capacity it's it's just an additional 1000 seats but I think we think that's important and worth going for it and having seen the proposed designs of the new stand will look to follow almost the design footprints of the new main stand That's correct yes. Obviously we want it fit in a similar look and feel the actual footprint is obviously very different to the main stand just in terms of where it's located but it's similar to the plan information that exists at the moment the planning permission lapsed what sort of a makeup of seats are you looking at in terms of regular seats versus hospitality areas Well we are looking at some hospitality in the stand sports bar sports lounge type hospitality but the majority will be General Admission seating and what sort of impact will this have on on the local area in terms of during the building process and then when the standards been completed. Yes So from a bill disruption thing obviously we're going to do everything we can to minimize that there is space behind the on field road stand at the moment to build around the back over the top in similar fashion to the building program that we had on the Main Stand which we think was very successful there is an impact in terms of unfilled road so there's a store section of and failed road right behind the existing on field drug stand between $96.00 Avenue and Skerries that we're looking for a closure. That obviously will have some impact on the residents of the side on that road there are still routes around what we do right now is trying to get some feedback we're conducting a transport survey to understand some of the detailed impacts of on transport of the road closure and overrule what will be the impacts on Liverpool football. To have a ground around $61000.00 capacity personally belief we have one of the best football stadiums in the world it's an incredible atmosphere away for respect to the history of on field and it's an amazing place to watch football I mean some extra capacity a bit more noise bit more support I think will be amazing we're all in hugely excited to gives more access for farms as well which everybody knows is an issue so I think this is an exciting development achieves many goals for the club and for the fans that's Liverpool's chief operating officer and the Hughes talking there to p.c. Radio Merseyside James Madison about the new exciting plans for a new Anfield Road stand and if the proposals are anything to go by it's going to look absolutely fantastic and very very similar but a smaller version of the new main stand at Anfield that's played such a big part in the people's financial revival which of course then enables city to be improved on the field would you believe if it goes everything according to plan the cop stand will be the smallest and Anfield freezing cold it is here I can tell you that sunshine all around really clear day great day for Pull it is cold but then it is nearly December isn't it more there from Liverpool legend Mark Lawrenson who of course moved to Anfield from Brighton Alloa says he's been impressed me what he's seen of Graeme Potters men so far this season so I'm quite a lot of the problem. Here in the championship played from the back and say we're really really well and you want kind of the personnel that you have been able to do it and that they're doing so. Little bit more than just the month. Charge. I mean new contracts I mean I've just I've just said that low myself the they must be happy with him because he signed an extension a 2 year extension only to come back well it's not a guy was we had a big reunion in Brighton he was thinking near the end of last season when he played Newcastle we went in the boardroom afterwards and they were just saying that they thought they'd actually got their recruitment wrong which didn't really help Chrissy and I think looking at them this time their recruitment looks better but obviously the more of interest got more 2nd place it's the boys more Piven for this go along goals in that league I mean I mean just look at the team going forward and I think under crazy they were a little bit kind of negative but what do you do when you come to Anfield you may like to play from the buy are you going to change what's the point of the strength is all about play you don't change then the and I would worry about them a little bit because it's all from 3 get at them I think cause major problems you think that one of the Ses brain or the mid table just no oil but you could easily see them if they go on a bot can run it kind of becomes a little bit of a problem they could easily get something but then it's not relegation zone you know it is I think that I'm a bit better here I think so yeah do goalkeepers good the 2 center backs have a kick in your mind that the decent The boys from Bristol city center back as well he's not bad so no I think I think they've got a bit more to be honest with you and let's be fair looking at some of those teams down at the bottom they are extremely ordinary I think that we are like a relationship. During a fortunate position where they don't know anybody and probably because the old is based in a custom About $160000000.00 so far training grounds $5.00 new ground etc So if they thought in January they needed to bring 2 or 3 players in assuming they could get them I think they do it because they know how much it would cost obviously to leave. Mark Lawrenson film right now and Liverpool defender. B.b.c. Radio might decide coming. Live from and feel it rebuild to kick off the ball vs right for commentary from your 1st taste of football we cover Liverpool the only station to do full common chairman every game home and away on the domestic footballing calendar but disappointment then for Liverpool in midweek they could have secured that qualification to the knockout phase of the Champions League but the one all draw with Napoli and solved by win over again means they now need at least a point from the final game against the Austrian side to guarantee qualification t.d.y. Now them says while they would have preferred to win they'll have plenty of determination to get the right result again solved back the score sheet you wanted to finish with their liver is the situation. Comes the last game so that we can change. About it anymore so we just have to do is to. Deal with the situation and trying to get a good result results in a really good performance when they came here so how difficult will it be for you to go over there is always difficult and I think the games will always be difficult is also the bend how you go into the game I think the game against the restart will . Make it difficult for self after we scored of course. Of course they got a credible this was also because we didn't do the things we did in the beginning so we will see definitely going to be a tough game by the going to be tough for the new came after how much of a blows it without him. This is a big blow for for the whole team of course for him also swear for there's the situation have to do it I think juniors we had a few blows with injury and. You know we just we just have to show that we can deal with the situation I mean I think about that we feel that you have so many options now that you can not know enough or to some are not but you know you can. It's all about loss and in effect to us I think we just have to show that it don't affect us what i just said turn the years we had we had some injuries difficult injuries and difficult decision to go to a less season was than what we've been ahead or right if and. We just have to deal with it and we will see I was. And that it was flat and. Worse as we were in the stands everyone everyone is worried. Not only about every player because the way we see this every player is important for us as a team so every player in your answer will worry even for your laying down on the ground but also and further when. People Wiley the mighty wa playing on the p.g.a. Here at Anfield part of the pre-match musical ritual with George shafted that brick Liverpool fan had to be wily modest because imagine we've got a book about 21 minutes to kick off. The ground beginning to fill up here at both sides still down on the pitch doing their pre-match meal but for the next day and for 5 minutes the b.b.c. Sports Personality of the year comes to your screens on Sunday the 15th of December well heptathlon champion Catarina Johnson Thompson is one of the 6 nominees for the headline award on the night the gaffer Liverpool debacle Ricky's winning goal against Barcelona to see little pools incredible comeback against the Spaniards is amongst the nominees for the greatest sporting moment of the year and we thought that was the perfect excuse to relive that game again I said to the boys before the game I don't think it's possible but because it's true I think that chance. Because I really meant out of the giants It's unbelievable. And. As. I did the program tonight from you I could close the message was as follows this little pools never stops this little pool never quit. We just do it slowly moves. The bowling ball they come on the ball like they can't stop putting. The to the touch. Just ignorant. Radio seaside travel. Show long weekend and fans you'll know good Friday to play list your chance to get your ultimate sound them played on the radio every Friday we're going to be celebrating the end of the week with a few your songs so whether it's one that always gets you on the dance floor one that was playing at a big milestone maybe in your life or one that just reminds you of a proper good time I want to know e-mail Sean Doc styles at b.b.c. Dr don't you can just tell me why Dr track that marks the weekend for you Sean's weekend and tends to age fleas old. On social media b.b.c. Mazzy spoke b.b.c. Radio Macy site. At the Saturday show coming to live from hand field Liverpool this is right the 1st of 2 Premier League full com a trace of that we can't we can't set habits in a way and the last day tomorrow and a full 30 kickoff Little's a p.p.o. Dated with champions progress in the f.a. Cup against Chester at the Saturday we got a couple of games in the last legal including Cesc their bases back to our cabin you and the others that is it the bank stand the test the team is. Yes a new signing else a new come straight into the starting line up so Chester lined up with Ross Griffis Jamie Morgan Danny lives see Simon Graeme Jol Taylor in midfield Brad Jackson George Blanda and Gary stopped for. A top Anthony Dudley and a quasi a son say the substitute Scott Burton Matty Hughes Danny Elliott George wearing and Chester of how to make one change to the announced substitutes Kevin Roberts was named on the bench but his wife has gone into labor and appropriately his replacement is Matty waters. Excellent nail that gets jealous little bit about as well about the the other game and honestly today academics to be sat. Well are you I expect Southport to win this for a number of reasons Kidderminster of being in free fall recently South who are playing particularly well at their playing well away from home had a good victory in the f.a. Trophy last week last week but Kidderminster got rid of their manager and it was rather a nasty parting if you like words between the board and between John Pemberton the previous manager they've lost players as well and it seems like a club in disarray so on. I would expect and I hope South who can take full advantage of this and I do expect them to come away with 3 points it's normally a very tough place to go. But certainly today I think with all that's going on down there in the middle I think Liam Watson's plan will come away with a 3 point some possibly I'm winning margin by a couple of girls Ok And we'll see what happens over the 90 minutes they will keep us updated on South Poles progress a good image there and of course the game that he's watching this afternoon at Chester says Radford Park Avenue with the big stadium Alec Kennedy alongside me for the big one for Mansfield of a bull versus Brighton kickoff in 10 minutes time the Reds have a chance to go at Levon points clear of the match the city in the Premier League table because city has. Only jaunt to apiece and a castle in the early kick off the Liverpool line up Palace sit in goals shatter Alexander Ronald Diana Lovren Bandai canary Robertson Jordan Henderson g.d. White powder man Alex oxalate Chamberlain at midfield 3 the front 3 of salad for me and on Monday on the bench at 3 am Will neck a test Gomez let alone a chicanery and a Reeky prying. Matt Ryan Nicola back full from their from right to left of Montoya Webster Dunn and. Dampens about 6 foot 4 I really told for a full back. And as Pascal gross profit ethos Suma and Dale Stevens an errand boy fired by midfield or possibly. Even sitting in. The back row spotless Stevenson I gross profit to see the way to slightly further afield Paris finally released a line right on the bench. Thank you but shake me all over. The trash is actually a lot to thank the palace has a wall last time to. If you could clone people could come. To create. A really good knack at sharing the rabbit goals of life in the front ring the likes of that excites me she knew why down the road but since the big day I've longed for 5 minutes in recent weeks. We also realize we rely so much and all for free and always be well that's. I couldn't care less which course to be honest at the end I'm very happy when the ball is in the net in a bag of the net so but yeah that's of course it's good but I still think he could have scored more goals through honest that's the truth as well so makes us a bit more unpredictable for sure but it's not my real there's nothing I really think about it's what I think of on the moment and maybe again we come to that point replay brightened with a very very exciting. Development who honestly knew and see them playing now how they play the way they play the procession they have I think 7 goes on to scope a session in the league. That he and City 48 also play prop of football so a day of really our own plan and that's I respect that a lot Graham is doing a very good job and so that's all I should know and all too scorers or whatever you have to score to win the game but it's just a tough one that's now this last game because from now after that game that everybody has this pretty much everybody has these kind of 3 games a week and they're coming up now with different cup competitions but Brighton had a full week to prepare and. In a way different I think a lot of all football obviously and so devil come here and try to get the points I'm 100 percent sure and we have to be read 3 days off all game very intense game against nominees Oh that's the things I think about nothing else incredibly 13 games gone well the intensity of your playing. 2 used to be staggered but how much more difficult has it become to have that intensity in every game as the season progresses if you look at the numbers of the most intense team in the league it's not that big Yeah of course Yeah well. Let's hope for the ball is. Around more than I was Ok and intends runs in his and his friends and so we have been pretty high in the stats bought Brighton for example runs much more of a game like him than we do so it's that we b.b. It's not always the same down games we have to be very very intense and couple of them we played in the last few weeks and other teams where we have to be much better to control the game more and all these things but the most important thing is and that's Brody our biggest strength the moment if you don't feel these kind of things not the numbers we don't feel the 12 games we won and on the 13th I thought again but the point we don't beat a 2 and a half years we don't feel that we are always in this kind of mood Ok we have to be really good 100 percent for the next opponent and these 100 percent they develop course over a season but they're one of us and the way little they have to we always there and other teams have difficult situations of other and beef sometimes you face them that exact in that moment and then it's maybe not the best football you can play in your in your life but it must be still good enough to win a football game but in this woman is no reason to think about that in this moment we want to play the best football we can play and that's usually a pretty good one and we have 2 against Brighton as well because down not only brave good football playing they are good organized as well. On top and less the last week to go on until those go to go and all the games they were really there were that they were in the game and that's all our job to do and not think about intensity or whatever life should always be like this or get up in the morning is your best day then we're best is your 2nd best day than do a 2nd because that's all it is. Telling Liverpool home and away game. Received radio messages. A few sides just about come out in fact. The fuel Henderson leads out the full size. Lightning help our being away to a left hand side led by Lewis done. So many waves of the cup over the place as is the normal case. Just as alongside the mascot and the other candidate with the opportunity after that sexual draw it's a change is path to go I leaven points clear of much society yes that's a great. Performance by Newcastle against you know really top team much a city and you know. I'm glad I'm glad it's happened now Liverpool have to do it they've got to be the team who. Do it you know really well in the Premiership and. On the fiction but they've got to win the game simple is that it's not about the performance it's about within the game and Liverpool quite capable of doing it Jonjo Shelvey company collides it for New Castle with the minutes of normal time left he had his ups and downs during his time but I'm feel that he's be talking to the b.b.c. House matches is maybe I can be a Liverpool hero now. Yeah I think he's got so much to walk he had so much from a baby when he was here was a little bit too early in his career at times like that and different times a we you know he's got some spectacular goes a little member I think he scored even against Liverpool for Swansea that particular time but he's going up to Newcastle East taken it all the Newcastle parched door and the strike was absolutely supply me really was given the goalkeeper absolutely no chance but I have to say I paid over the other side on the 2nd he Darvish the stand and everybody everybody. Said water to a goal that was there and it really was a great goal it fit to get there New Castle a point. To NY City when I can to the former Liverpool and New Castle defender of. Cop the security darkly scanned the Amphib road and am amazed h one I thank you for choosing to listen to b.b.c. 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Boris Johnson is meeting veterans in the West Midlands after promising to protect them from what he calls vexatious legal action Jeremy Corbyn is offering the armed forces a payroll eyes and better housing conditions remain in man has been jailed for life for murdering a grandmother in a West Sussex village almost 6 years ago Valery Graves who was 55 was found beaten to death in her bed in December 23rd teen Christiansand who was extradited from Romania to face justice and will serve at least 23 years in jail a formal announcement is expected shortly about the future of British Steel it's after China's Ginia a group agreed to rescue the business and safeguard up to 4000 jobs is thought staff at British steel plants in Sculthorpe and T.'s side have been told about the deal which is thought to be worth 70000000 pounds the u.k. Has avoided a recession the economy grew by nor point 3 percent in the 3 months to September after shrinking the previous quarter Hendry is the s. N. Pay's business spokesman this is the lowest level of growth since 2010 coming out of the financial crisis certainly nothing to be pleased that I mean of course g.d.p. Doesn't really tell all the story people don't really care about percentages and so forth they just see the whitening inequality in their communities and society Police say 2 boats with 31 people on board were intercepted off the Kent coast last night 6 boats have arrived in the past 4 days and more heavy rain is expected in parts of Yorkshire in the middle and that are already suffering from flooding 5 severe warnings are in place on the river Don in South Yorkshire which indicates a danger to life Toby Wilson is executive director of operations at the Environment Agency a forecast is not good so more rain today and the potential for some more significant rain on 1st try so the advice is very much to. Police I follow our flood warnings and child alerts and do what you need to to protect your room wellbeing and that's the news on 5 Live let's get this on our death Thank you good afternoon a former Manchester City caps in Vincent company says simply being the Anderlecht manager helps to fight racism he's tell 5 Live he didn't have to introduce a policy or do anything other than his job but he. Football's governing bodies need to be more diverse as to be effective a potential boost for Wales ahead of a must win Euro quantifies against on Hungary this week Gareth Bale trained with the squad he's not played since suffering a cuff injury to Wales is true against Croatia last month the ventilation Cooper has withdrawn from the Scotland squad for the euro quantifies insipid Kazakstan he's got of growing injury while England's women will be without a captain Steph Watts and without sound and White's Alex Greenwood in Jodi Tyler for their friendly awaits the Czech Republic tomorrow agree wouldn't have injuries Huet and whites are rested and Joe Denly is expected to be fit for the Test series against New Zealand with his recovery from damage going well then he's unlikely to play in England's and he won't match starting tonight there but he should be available for the 3 day too much on Friday b.b.c. a 5 line tell us 5 life might we all males in Chris close now you're in the middle That is the sound. Of an hour. Celebrating 25 years in the industry she's going to be on the show after 2 o'clock talking about the album recorded live at the Royal Festival Hall in London in May and it's just got some extraordinary cover versions like this I'm Every Woman Should have woulda coulda original hits as well a movie talking about not only her history in music but also of course a lot of wolves Yes a lot of wolves and will probably pirate goal from Sunday because producer Tom is a huge Wolves fan is somehow managed to get that into the running order. Now. This. Is kind of a waste Ok they are not going to over promise the same kind of western show today. But I don't know if you saw on Friday. Various American news outlets who are reporting that can a West wants to change his name to. Christine genius billionaire. A colossal face Paul moment from everybody currently listening to 5 Live can a West wants to change his name to Christie and genius billionaire song. Let's just imagine for the next 5 minutes this show on b.b.c. Radio 5 Live is the Kenya a Western name generator now the formula we seem to work is religion plus delusion that you have yourself a genius plus financial status now I work this out before that mine was Buddhist Brainiac delusion of a self overdraft Yes the new album from Buddhist Brainiac overdraft coming to a streaming service to you now would you do us take your religion can also be a system no religion it's all delusion that you have about yourself plus financial status 3 words Kenya is Christian genius billionaire mine is Buddhist Brainiac overdraft 8505 a is the text number What would yours be let's put your names through the Kenya West name generator and see what comes out on the other end and as if that wasn't enough in the show arguably buying a Bentley does create jobs. I mean who else but a multimillionaire football player would say that and he's right of course if you work at the Bentley factory keep your job going people Bentleys Vincent Kompany is going to be a guest on the show after half past 1 as well talking about lots of things actually that incredible year where they won the Treble Ok which was let's face it largely overshadowed by Liverpool winning the Champions League and I say that because I drove in this morning with a pal Mark who is a huge Man City fan and he was being a bit salty about the fact that ultimately no one really cared that they won the Treble because Liverpool Well obviously people who support Manchester City did but no one else whereas in any other year everyone would have been freaking out about the path that they did the domestic travel so Ok that's what's coming up on the show Vincent company's going to be here as well so get in contact with us with your Kenya a West name remember religion plus delusion How about yourself plus financial status that would be your can a worse rap name or write some politics stuff 9 minutes past one of course Emery's been dealing with that comprehensively but you know we'll do a little bit here the leader of the BRICs a party Niger fraud says his party will not put up candidates in a 317 seats won by the conservatives at the last election as you heard the saying in the news David Connor is political correspondent David Good afternoon why that's why they've done this it's a very big change because Nigel Farage had said that unless the conservatives backed down and did a deal with him he was going to stand in 600 seats and of course I could take a lot of votes away from bricks it supporting conservative voters Nigel Farage says he's done as you turn because he thinks that Boris Johnson is moving towards what he calls a bit more like the BRICs it we voted for in the sense of a trade deal with the e.u. That wouldn't involve following e.u. Rules or knowledge of orators or sick. If you can so this is that it's going to prevent a 2nd referendum from happening as he sees it and as he sees it too that is the single most important thing in terms of the election what impact will this have on labor then well it's good news for the conservatives but it may not be pure good news for them because of course it it. Breaks apart he will still be standing in seats that the conservatives need to win to get a majority and they need to get more seats obviously than to resume a 12 years is a good go so although Boris Johnson is very happy about about this it may not be the pure good news that he was looking for as far as labor concerned Well there are there chair in labor he has said that. I thought you're right $980.00 s. Tribute act which would lead to more savage Tory attacks on working class communities of course the seats that that breaks apart he will be looking out targeting now willing cleared seats in the north of England perhaps the Midlands where voters voted leave but sent Labor M.P.'s to Westminster 2 years ago so that could still create some difficulties knowledge of Horace thinks he can take from from labor. Any signs of the deal anywhere on they so communication between the Conservatives and the BRICs it puts him in Douglas cause one of course who said on Emma show that he was the only person to win a seat as a Ukip m.p. Subsequently resigned didn't he. Was saying that they wouldn't win anything Yeah and that's certainly certainly possible if you look at the polls that that that's likely but what they could do of course is change the result in some places by taking votes from one of the big parties interesting that Boris Johnson the Prime Minister's react. Very quickly to this almost as if he had a heads up of knowledge of origins U.-Turn Boris Johnson says we welcome knowledge of ours is recognition that another gridlocked hung parliament is the greatest threat to getting breaks it done and he says if we have another hung parliament it would lead to 2 more chaotic referendums next year Boris Johnson then pointing out the Conservatives only need 9 more seats to win a majority and leave by the end of January with a deal but of course to win those 9 seats they all seats currently held by their opponents be they labor or live Dems on the brakes a party will still as things stand be standing in those seats David thank you David Cardwell political correspondent I'm opening my act election clinic again this week election a clinic again this week and to. Properly this time tomorrow we'll have experts on hand to answer your questions about the n.h.s. And social care so if you want to get in contact with those questions 85058 text number you can email and holler at b.b.c. To u.k. Whether it's about how much money the n.h.s. Needs to keep going as it is me levels of privatisation g.p. Waiting times are drugs to be made available in different parts of the u.k. They are postcode lottery pretty much anything in fact with regards to the n.h.s. And social care the election clinic will be open for business when your questions tomorrow so please will you be a health professional or patient to get in contact with us and we will be more than happy to try to oncet your questions Ok as I said coming up we've got Vincent Kompany former captain of mentions the city who they could have done with Certainly yesterday also thank you for everybody that is tweeting me what their Kenya a West name generator name would be after he has decided to call himself Christian genius billionaire we need to do is and here is the formula for this right. Your religion a delusion that you have about yourself plus your financial status and you can then have your own can you a West name generator Ok so good as I said mine is Buddhist Brainiac overdraft that would be my Kenya a name so I 505 is a text lots of people tweet me on this code Oh CIA of course CIA Plus cough an attic us credit card c.e.o. We often attic credit card. Rooms well although jet I remain contactless is good. That's a good atheist footballer skint another good one atheist beefcake borrower. If k. Is such a. Catholic virtuous enough. Christine cool dad Stoney's is David London Kristin cool that's done it don't we all wish we were cool that anyway keep those coming in what happens though when banter goes too far as we want to talk about the next 15 minutes or so when does it become bullying new research from the nonprofit organization cyber smart suggests that more than half of young people aged 13 to 18 says maybe the age of your kids think that the term banter is used as an excuse for bullying 3 quarters said it goes too far if upsets the other person you can imagine but I guess the difficult question is Where is the line Co 808-590-9693 tell us what you think and it doesn't just of course apply to people of a Certain Age school age or college or uni for adults as well in the workplace women the last time you had to tell someone that their idea of banter had gone too far or is it difficult to do that in a working environment when you know people are having a laugh and they say something you feel is inappropriate and you say that to them and they say Co We lost the sense of humor or some ego chip on your shoulder what's wrong with you know that kind of response Chloe Hampson is here and Rob way the both 18 high Chloe Hi Rob. So I mean that's a question for you where is the line Chloe and I think the line is different for each president but it's between a friend a great nose begin and a sow's and. For instance me my friends will take the mick out of each other and securities because we know each other in security so it's an it's a fad ground what but what Ok but what insecurity you were insecurities about cells but some of those insecurities are quite kind of psychologically damaging for us that they may have mental health repercussions etc So what insecurities just you I mean it's like yeah you look terrible we know shoes or whatever that's one thing but other thing could be you know like the facial scarring or something like that people are insecure about it could be that way glasses that they're insecure Yeah. Well as the vine I think something that they have a genuine nod lie you region or an issue is that it has had a long. Impact on them that they're clearly not Ok with and will often come to you upset about it or you know they are upset about it as if it's just that that's mildly bothers them that I think that's Ok but between friends Ok Are you comfortable with calling out when you feel that someone has gone too far not to yourself but to someone else like and you can see that their own comforter with it or are you nervous because if it's under the umbrella of Santa you don't want to be seen as a killed you know I am I'm very open and people it was the sort of thing. Even if it's even if they I've even if I don't know the person I often say things if if someone's being unnecessarily mean to someone else I will say something and say that kind of in the wrong business last year as in college and this is so there's banter between friends but if you don't really know someone that you've not really got any right to have banter with them I guess because you don't know them you know on a friendly to them. And in class there was someone take the mick out of someone else and they will call you. But you know a pessimist clearly upset so I spoke up in our society you don't really know that you only speak to him and Caso you've got no right to run with them when you don't know them so familiarity. I think you kind of it depends on the relationship you have with that person's like you have to be depending on what you have to really know the person to know what insecurities are like a definitely a no go zone in terms of banter and then you have to know that the kind of stuff that they might joke about themselves like self-deprecating humor that's the kind of stuff do you think that is largely innocent and then once they cross the line they they just realise they've crossed a line or do you think sometimes people who use the word banter as an excuse to just bully someone I think is largely innocent but like you know the study isn't it from like sense from social media you know concept and like that does social media does take things out of any kind of context and there's no visual cues there's nothing like that so I think both parties is going to be hard to understand each other and understand the lines and like everything chefs when you go from like us to face to your generation being the Wouk generation as it were a ones that are supposed to be more conscious of what you can and can't say than your parents and your grandparents generations some of those kind of older generations will suggest you can't say anything these days Ok so where do you go stand on so that's like. It depends on whether they were kind of woken a says to deal with like like the whole of like society and how you refer to different people and you knew with like and how conscious you are of different genders. But that doesn't necessarily relate to your friend group not kind of right like punter and like just generally just like referring to someone incorrectly as in going to like say you like referring to like a whole group is like a slanderous term and that's obviously not done 7 isn't a good thing where is within friend groups is different is it is it would because we were discussing this earlier on Clearly these bands are a word that boys tend to use I would say so yeah it's boys will use a lot more openly and with lots of other people because I think as the way social cultural things have to be them if they've been brought to be really loud and unapologetic about the way they act and it's that whole Boys Will Be Boys thing. It's Ok to make out the other guy because we're meant to be strong men females we didn't grow up as a lot will praising of each other but depending on the female depending on the girl you'll have friends who will to make out each other because that's the way they find it so comedy is a way to look at the light side of things. I mean. Purely anecdotally you know we've seen it with our own because of our son and daughter that boys are very direct in the way that they will verbal e of a go each other. The girls will be more psychological Yeah you know how they do it so in social media and what's up groups etc is kind of built for that yeah and of chip away at someone's career I think I think social media is like one of the biggest problems in terms of it makes everyone feel like a victim in this is you feel like a victim then you start to deflect and to make sure you aren't. Victim So you start to bully other people and there's all these different like concepts of how you feel as an individual and like when you have to say so every social group for a group is certain type of personality so there's the joke or the one that always take the mick out of you they'll be that person do you think that social media has changed that person so that person now thinks twice before they say or do you think it's the same as it's always been when you're 18 is it the same as when you were at school 12 and 13 I think it changed I think that they Am I don't really think that they think twice about him I think even now it's even more even more taking it to the next level sometimes run Ok Yeah Ok That's interesting so it's going the other way yes kind of enhanced in terms of a less likely to be afraid because you know there's no there's not necessarily a dire consequence you don't have to deal with like the loss of face and kind of things and to sort of comments I made an instagram. But really some has taken a cast someone that everyone else thinks they're absolutely lariats If anything it just based their ego before they just had a class laugh now they have the whole world you know concern now especially when you've seen certain high profile cases of people social media is coming back to home them and them trying to explain that at the time perhaps it was banned what they were doing that you're more worried now about what you put. As banter in a whatsapp group for instance where you can screen. And send out to people or a message that you might leave on someone's Instagram be more conscious of that I'm really worried about that actually because I'm going to go into a career in film so I'm very aware of this I think will get George got 10 years later and it depends on what people said usually it's before you press send Yeah or post your king rock a how could this be seen in many different Yeah they have done that before of like going to tweet something and then been like someone could interpret that like completely the wrong way like because like I say like most of the people who I like follow and stuff they're all like really close friends they're in my friend groups if I was to tweets and then it's generally like related to something that happened that day or like related to each other like say me and my friend Liz we have like this ongoing thing where we like absolutely like despise each other but we don't like we're really good Friday and we have like this joke that we hate each other so you go in on each other yeah life the I we rip into each other and say oh we hate each other and stuff and not like it transcends like social media does that get quite personal in respects of perhaps not how they look but things they were mistakes they made Yeah rubbish they are at the end of like they say something then one of us are like make a comment like but it's obviously you have a line of you of course where you where someone has come back you go nothing no no you can't say I didn't think so and not that I've consciously not anyone ever brought it to my attention I might have done unknowingly and have you ever been the victim of it where you've had to say someone No I'm not comfortable with I feel like when I was younger like 1314 it's likely that I felt it but very unlikely that I have to leave Burdett's when it's intentional and defended myself in any way why because it's just kind of. But like that kind of shows your vulnerability and Shays you were affected for and like like a man and someone he like feels like they have to like protect protect and like uphold something you're not going to be like wow that makes me feel sad Ok so you don't want to come across as being vulnerable Nia and that it gets into you. Do you regret that. Because should people be able to get away with saying things of you that upset you yeah I guess I potentially regret it but not what you think it makes strengthens your character it probably more blunts your character I think but it's not something that I've like feels like has affected me in the long term I feel like you just get over it doesn't you obviously shrug it off at some point and realize it was just a comment it was just banter whatever the person like however far they when you know that the meaning behind it was probably nice clothes Well I have us Burgess so I sometimes take things as a literal meaning and I've sometimes I come across as really blunt and I won't notice that I've offended them until they said some and then I'll be really apologetic. And that's just a meeting I need to work on but when it comes to someone else say things that they'll mean as a joke and I know vacuum me they mean as a joke but I will get into my head that this some truth behind this saying and I'll get really actress about that I will I will out so you can send me a little joke that a little one line and I'll be thinking about it and I say still so then in terms of say traffic lights. Someone may say something to you and you may not be aware that it's a joke or you think that they think it's a joke but you're thinking that they're saying something quite personal about you yeah and even in the social media that can come across like that to everyone like it just mean that doesn't just apply to me on social media sometimes you will misinterpret it that way some assessment because alter text he's not got the visuals all the tone coming across sometimes so people can take things and they will absorb it inside and they will have a safety because a lot of they just mean it's joke and actually 10 allies itself and just will get way sometimes Liz's sent me a tweet which I think I'd like to get your opinion on the band bus some old boys 14th birthday party this week and left my usually confident daughter in tears or because they thought she had cheap trainers they filmed and shared on social media she felt like the whole room was laughing. So that presumes is their idea of banter . They think is then that's the whole like by go divide of what boys interpret as banter more girls interpret as bands and as a group of boys against a group of like I just want to be vigilant and that's bullying Yeah right I mean any you know yeah it's you know I don't see that as anything in their own eyes perhaps they're not seeing it as bullying. What do you think of that example well. 7 years ago there was really such a thing as banter as I bullying about it wasn't so I don't think I don't understand why that why why the question should be Oh is it down to all know if they said that 5 years ago if they would get it wrong so it should be considered wrong now it still isn't mean is that they did so on one hand because of social media you know more concerned about what you post to social media but on another hand you're saying that in some way social media has made people more kind of cruel towards each other Oh yeah yeah so there's a weird square circle kind of thing you have to work out for your generation you know because you yourselves are worried about posting because other people on you know you because I've noticed it certainly in terms of I'm actually a member of very few groups but once I am on whenever I think that there's anything that this time which I feel is Ok I can't be get involved in all this if I set a group or just go look at the. How are you guys with that would kind of policing do you feel confident enough to police groups that you're in and like the word police is kind of what it comes down to. Yeah I'm I'm only in group shots with people I'm very close to right Ok so when someone happens I feel confident enough to say something against it like if they should be talking about it and they should be talking about it so I will say I'm not going to be of on the bush if they're being wrong or being wrong Ok very unlikely to actually intervene in anything I don't think I've ever seen anything that I'd like right yeah I don't think I think my friends and I don't think anyone has ever like been like explicitly horrible to someone up in light and have been able to I don't think I'd ever intervene and I think I'd much rather take a back for and hope the person realizes the thing to do I think it is because I grew up in a high school where I grew up severely bullied for 2 years and no one stepped up for me my best friend left the school and when she did come back for one month she stuck up for me and no one said it would to me it was amazing that one month. She was great and I loved it back she left it went downhill again and I end up having to leave high school for a few months and I moved back to Manchester and it was just simple things quite a little full time bus from Manchester City to make out my accent and this is a simple thing it they decided they think it was all that you think they thought it was bomb too in their heads or do you think that they knew that they were bully No No They knew this there's no doubt about it one girl came up to me I buy a year later she message me on Facebook and she was I'm really sorry about everything we did to you. And she apologized and she's the only person have apologized for it and I still remember now and she knew full well the norm of it was bands I mean they pushed into the flow that's not bad and. So no I think they knew what they were doing and that's why I'm a lot more open and I'm a lot more blunt about these things I will step up for someone even if I don't know them because I'm aware that if someone did that for me. That it would change change a lot of things a lot Santa Ok Well look thank you Chloe Hobson roadway for coming into States talk about this when banter goes too far becomes billing right 32 minutes past one coming up Vincent Kompany after the news with Nick or Isha on digital b.b.c. Sound it's lost big time on this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live Nigel Farage says the brakes at party won't field candidates at any of the seats won by the conservatives in the last election but he says they will stand in constituencies held by Labor the s.n.p. And plied Comrie Mr Farage said putting up candidates across the country would risk another e.u. Referendum a man has been jailed for life for murdering his grandmother in a West Sussex village Valery Graves was found beaten to death in a property where she was house sitting in 2030 Christian sappy was extradited from Romania to face trial and announcement on the future of British jails expected this afternoon Chinese manufacturing companies gaze agreed in principle to buy it for 70000000 pounds potentially saving thousands of jobs in Scunthorpe and Teesside and on assist day services have been held across the country with a 2 minute silence observed at 11 this morning but Labor and the conservatives have pledged to improve the lives of you Kate service personnel and their families has been I would tell it the a.t.p. Finals continue today at the sewer ina in London David Lowell is there and David a really young field this year and 2 of the meet this afternoon Yeah the youngest field here for 11 years and since the tournament started here in 2009 that's because we have 4 players who are all 24 years and under 2 of them as you say down there maybe they've used 23 but again Stephanus it surpasses 21 today they've made their waves over the last 12 months very very talented players that big in the top players as well at times but it is Medvedev who has a very healthy head to head 50 in him in his favor in their career so far so he's certainly the favorite to come through this while we can watch. Much on b.b.c. 2 friends and David was mentioning Rafa Nadal isn't actually saving but concerns over his fitness isn't there yet he's in pole position to dial to finish this year as world number one for a 5th time but he's got an up dominant strain that he suffered a couple of weeks ago and the question mark is will he be able to serve it so heavily reliant on the upper part of the body that will use those abdominal muscles and we just don't know how he's going to hold up but he's playing tonight he's up against the defending champion Alexander sparrow in his 1st time wrapping up his medal David thanks for the time being you can hear that much as well on sports extra this evening from 745 David part of the 5 live tennis team in London this week the format Manchester City captain Vincent Kompany says he would be interested in a job in football governance to fight racism in the sport please tell 5 life he's not prepared to be involved if it means not speaking his mind company's current manager of and the like as for his old saying they suffered a blow to the title challenge yesterday said his defeat at Liverpool means the 9 points adrift company though says it's not over they've been crowned champions twice now and back to bark I don't see why the game and the defeat of yesterday would cost and I mean I know if I was in the middle of the dressing room I would have been thinking well we created a lot of chances against a very strong Liverpool 9 points is really it's something you can overcome plenty more from Vincent Kompany coming up very shortly with me how well it looks set to have Gareth Bale available for their must win Euro qualifies against Azerbaijan and Hungary he's trying with the squad after not playing since suffering a cough injury playing for Wales last month and Leeds defender limb Cooper has withdrawn from the Scotland squad for the euro qualifies against Cyprus in Kazakstan Cooper has a growing injury while England's women will be without their caps in staff Hussan and without a white sonic scream when Jody Taylor for tomorrow's friendly away to the Czech Republic Green would entitle have injuries Horton whites are being rested Joe Donnelly is expected be fit for the Test series against New Zealand he is recovering well from a. Damage but isn't expected to play in England's ring woman not starting tonight his coach Chris Silva would applaud just recovering today by days getting better and better the medics are confident that he'll make a full recovery officer just a bank show that he doesn't mention got a cover here which with Doug. Touch wood he'll be fine Silverwood also says that deadly will play ahead of Jonny Bairstow a fit and the best may be released having been called into the squad of cover of the latest from b.b.c. Sports team if he finds out I. Went you know you see the Radio 5 Live. From my living batting and I'm commuting from going just to tell I'm from training I don't think. To represent small gears b.m.p. On listening to the public how I feel about the election you think is ridiculous to some real need to fix the essential coverage of election fraud is the one thing right here on the life this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on the b.b.c. Sounds. Like I don't. Ok. Now time for the former City captain now plant manager and the left in Belgium of course remains a true legend for everybody in the blue live Manchester still has huge links to the city with his homeless charity tackle for m.c.r. New book is out Thursday is called Trouble triumphs we caught up this morning the one and only instant Company Yes Vinnie I did and I'm far and I'm good good to see you here to say. I'm going to start with that goal against Leicester 30 yards right Ok and. Your own team ice the guys who are there to support you like that to do you know. Did you hear them say yeah I heard it it was really loud he was shouting it was thing more play is shouted so I know couldn't couldn't show it but I felt it was. Going to go and I thought it's him. And there's something in me in my life you tell me not to do something and I feel I have the right to do it I'm going to do it so. This movie is one of the most the funny thing is this happen time and time again in my career Why I've heard it and I've heard it and I've heard it and it was annoying me but obviously you play with says such a good teams in the end you just give him the ball because they're going to find the score 120 goals every season so you give him the ball. And on this occasion no because you know it was it wasn't that kind of time and practice and I practiced it a lot believe it or not and in training I always had to face plays teammates saying well you know why are you doing it you never going to do it in a game and so on and so on we haven't seen you do it and whatever and. And I was saying exactly those exact words I said Look let me do this because one day obvious scoring a goal that's going to matter in your life that will change your life and this was the moment I left it late it was my last game ever at the. Wild But what a way to go out that respect I mean to do that that pivotal part of the season I mean it was the penultimate game of the season right yeah. Little did we know at the time but less is the real deal. Brendan Rodgers done an exceptional job in bringing this team back to a very competitive level and it was a tough game and I think we're running it looks like running a little bit out of steam and you know the battle with Liverpool was to taking it out of us a little bit and that game was discussed time we knew it might not go our way and we had to we just had to express something on the pitch that we and then at the time you know I was fortunate to be the guy to do it how do you balance having authority issues with being a captain how do you balance being. Not the kind of guy who's going to be told You can't do something no I'm actually a fantastic lieutenant in terms of if I believe in what you will say. I'll take a bullet for you I'll do anything you just have to convince me. Not times you don't have the time to do that do you sometimes I mean I think you've mentioned before that Pelligrini perhaps had a way of managing you that probably wasn't the best way to manage you know. Look I was I was successful in the end on the Pelligrini as well and I learned different things about football about the game which which I'm grateful for. But the way I work and I've always worked this way since the age of as long as I can remember it's you know I really look up to to knowledge and I can be convinced when I'm convinced and I get the message that probably the best guy as well that going to bring this message into the team I do it consistently religiously and I will defend the message because I believe in it. Just like on the face against less when I take the shot I don't believe in it so I'm going to do it and that's the sums that sums it maybe the best. That attitude that you have which carries on actually in every facet of your life in many ways is that from your father or from your mother I mean where does that energy that passion I mean I think you've said before the the things that the biggest danger to me is is complacency or inaction k. That drives coming from both right my my mother was. Very vocal union leader. And you know she was always representing people that were in the. Weaker position in life or in society and my dad for one of the most criminal region regimes in in the history of this world members Mobutu regime in Congo. Or at the time but he went to a labor camp for that he was imprisoned for that. And he was one of the protesters again on the streets in Kinshasa and you know people died in those days for protesting so for him to then come over to Belgium and become the 1st. Mayor of color in the country in the history of the country. It just shows his determination and a kind of both fries I have it from both and my mother was blonde with blue eyes and so on and so on and said It's my mom who explained probably the most to me about you know discrimination and racism and all these other issues but the fighting nature the spirit if you go back as well to the regions where they're from respectively in each country they're both from hard working regions of those countries and. I guess it can be anything different than passed on to me and you come to Manchester done it's a perfect fit because your mother was from a rural area wasn't she and you'll father clearly was a city person who grew up in the city or did he grew up in a room much enough my father. Rural I would say when he was younger remember Congo 60 years ago was probably more rural than than anything but but then he did move to a big city is to study and so on and so on I mean it's an act of revolution in itself for your mum to come back from Africa with your dad and present to a rural family in Belgium this guy from the Democratic Republic of Congo I mean that was going to be a shock in that village. What did they tell you about that time. I asked a bit I said did I knew the answer a lot my granddaughter on my mother's side I love my grand my grandma so it's kind of nuts I didn't want to you know and bury things that didn't need to be but I was just asking us it's all where you're accepted in the family and obviously gave me that look from your stuff. But my my mum was a rebel you know in the sense of she was definitely going to do something that her parents would be frowning and and that was it you know that she brought back. The guy came back from Kinshasa and had to run away from a brutal regime and that's what she brought back in a village well but it was still working the land. It's a strange year 2008 because of course it's the year that you sadly lost your mother but see you joined Manchester City as well yeah and what it's a very strange emotion oh yeah that must have been for you what do you remember yeah I mean. It's I was living abroad as well so I'm saying a brother was living in Germany I was young 20 Hamburg there 222211 euro I was living really on my own maybe one friend Rowe was. In the studios as well. And then my sister developed cancer at the time my mother had cancer at the same time and they were all in Brussels and. I thought I told my kid a standon so I was unable to to perform either so you just sit at home a lot of hours finking thinking thinking and you feel that you're losing everything your love you know football your family your sister and so on but in the end. You know I also met my wife in. Something you started as soon as my mother passed away all these things she said to me became more valuable and I carried them into my life much more perhaps you know the things I succeeded in later on such as you know having a mass having a master degree at the University of Manchester and. Coming back from so many injuries and those are all things that I feel were installed as well by my mother. And yes so so I just try and understand that this was the toughest year my life but at the same time because I never gave up and I never. Allowed myself to be a victim of my situation I got back to experience the best things in my life as well afterwards. Real Ferdinand's where you're sitting once having an interview and he was talking about very much how he compartmentalizes his emotions and he shows no emotion and in many ways. It's to the detriment of his mental health in some ways because you have to be able to that men especially we have to be able to talk about how we feel right but a football team and that environment is quite a difficult place to show feelings. What do you like with that considering you said 2008 was the toughest time your life but it was a it was a time that you met your wife and you joined Man City it's difficult to say really . I definitely come into the could say Agree of people who speak very little about it and I've always been a leading figure. Someone I feel needs to be able to show you know a clear state of mind the direction a way to go forward for everybody who's in dollar around them and I'm not saying that this is the best way to deal with it from a personal level but can I you know I think what Rio's experiences is even more traumatic you know it's it's different you lose if you lose your mother like I did when you young it happens in the Rye order of things you know you lose your mom and then you go yourself and then your kids go later on you know but but walk into Rio's a I think it's a different level you know and I haven't felt like I needed to compartmentalize that I think I was just able to process a move on but but I haven't. I haven't had the same experience if if you know what I mean course families clearly everything to you is well yeah great family with you but the sacrifices that footballers make and look you get very well paid for it you know that but in terms of that of of being away a lot. Being in the zone a member interview Pitino and him saying I examined massive Spurs fan and he said you know on the day if they lose he's terrible to be around like you can't you can't be around. His own family call it what do you like in that respect and also as well when you were injured I mean you've you've been through what 14 coffin 36 growing interest 6 hamstrings you were injured for your own testimony I mean what's your mood like what do you like to be around. In relation to injuries Diffie defeated the pants can be in so many ways but the feeds always feel bitter but one way or another. I feel you have to get over it because you have to focus on the next game. Harvesting is one when you get injured or share would go further recurring injuries so you've gone all the way to about 90 percent and you're ready to go again and you training and you see the end of the turn and. You back out and that can happen however many times you successions and by the end of it you don't know any more one is going to be the end of the tunnel because even when you're 90 percent down the tunnel you think you still not there yet you know you know that and I think in those moments what I do have a rule say it can't be more than 24 hours over 24 hours rule so I'm allowing myself maybe to sit down with my wife and I have a child or have a glass of wine or something like this and then it has to be over the next day when I wake up I have to be back ready to work and figure out a way to get back out of it and and I have a tunnel vision and I was speaking to Delfi was an interesting story this hour speaking to Delfi Fabian Delph and we were injured at the same time quite a lot actually and he's going through all the steps of what could happen and so because of the injuries what that means to our careers to our futures and stuff and I said look it's early in the season all I see myself doing is lifting trophies at the end of the season I don't know how I don't know what's going to happen but something will get me that far and by the end of the season I'll be back in the team and he's saying Vinny you know where the team at the moment I said I'll be back in the team on tell you I don't know how other. Of a city the last a game the f.a. Cup. Winning the league title as well so I was part of all these moments because at the very start of it I believe I could do it I've walked through Man City with he writes me and paging through and I was walking behind you and I looked at everybody's face as you walked past them and there's this bizarre. Almost religious like looks at people getting I think I think I think it unbelievable Ok unbelievable and as you know we paid for Elton John to be used to being around famous people and I stood with him as well how do you stop that level of love reverence distorting your reality because it's not a real place to be for a human being is it not. Try and stay humble like how if there's one way if there's one part of my life maybe I do compartmentalize if you mentioned it before is that side of it I try and lock it away a bit and. Don't believe my own hype don't believe the drama don't believe the hype or say what you believe in yourself I believe on Jan 10th as I do a completely and I probably believe I'm bad and I know I know I believe I'm better than I am but I don't. Behave in a way I don't allow myself to believe all of the things about me think about me what is bad and what is good and bad side of things I lock it away and I just try and be who have been you know educated and raised to be a stay humble try and stay humble as much as I can. And try and be grateful I meet someone and someone saying something nice to me I appreciate the fact that you know not everybody has nice things every day you know and if someone's being rude or someone's you know I try and walk away knowing that. You know it's part of the job or something that you know that happens with the position you're in I don't try and I just don't believe the hype I don't believe the drama that's that's my motto lesson for your mother from your father. I would say more my mother in this case because it's interesting cause she resists you say union that you said she's kind of borderline a communist and yeah borderline a communist probably communist in believes but not communists in terms of associated association to the people that were running the political parties at the time so what do you think she would have made of the immense wealth that football is and yes she was. It was yeah sometimes it was conflicting because the 1st time she heard about my paycheck in Belgium at the time and left Yeah she was she was outraged and she told me. And I remember my answer as this as if it was yesterday and I said to my mother said Look as long as the money goes to me it's fine because I'll do something good with it. And off after I've kept to my word you know I've always looked for ways to. Put people in employment or give back to the community Oh try and do something productive with my money rather than to just pocket away and leave it on a bank account somewhere you know it will buy another Bentley will feel that kind of although although arguably buying a Bentley does create jobs. Do you think for the better workers it is exactly right you know u.k. Jobs are sure small it's more the aspect of parking your money on a bank account I still don't see how that does that other does any good to anyone why homelessness of all the of all the. Things that you could have really devoted your time in your life and especially your wife has as well. A lot of dinners well why that in the city of Manchester started from a discussion between myself and Carla and really I think it was one of his winter it was minus 14 and 16 I can remember I remember that my door c. And I was. It was in my wife's belly collars BELIN. And we're discussing you know where we were in the car nice and warm and you think about the people who are outside it's minus 14 you checking the temperature and then it's kind of a thing we know we want to do something and it's there's nothing grand the body is just us being you know stupid privileged people like so many of us and thinking how can we help those who are not. But then it was kind of a promise to each other with time we were going to do something substantial because we're talking about going to shelters and doing this and doing that and I said we can do it and spend a lot of time doing that but I think we can have a bigger impact if we. Build a plan or a strategy and I knew the time would come where we could do something meaningful and this was the moment and we had a big big impact and continuing to have a big yes to go you know the us does well. Ultimately it's a basic need and if you look at the way munches to grow grew over the years the power of the city what wasn't the case when I arrived in in 2008 you you'd wonder why it bothers anyone that needs to be left behind in such a way and it's basic needs for us to be successful and and thrive in this city which have a whichever the level is you know I think we have a responsibility to 1st of all make sure that we we put everyone in in a position off of basic needs and opportunities being met so that they can fries as well if they put in the work that they want to put in you know but but when you're a such a disadvantage it doesn't matter how hard you work you never going to get you never going to get ahead in life it's. It's an amazing thing that you're doing what ultimately last question is your legacy do you think what do you want it for the city now that you know actually my money will you go back to city. I am back when you go back to Manchester City defense. They need. Me Man City Lines all saying they need you don't need me they'll be fine although you know Little Bo going to win the league but that's not my opinion I think that we still I was a Marine I was opinion yeah I know we were allowed to disagree I don't look go back to retaining possession wish to play with such behavior to score more than the opposition. Your legacy sorry yeah I got your legacy what do you think you're building it now on. What do you know I want to I want my children to be proud about what we did aspirants you know. Be the key factor for me what it's been successful or what it's a legacy I told of my kids can come back and say Look. Mommy and Daddy did this and it's still standing or we still carrying on the work and I'll be by maybe that continue to work but look I just want everybody to have an opportunity in Manchester's such as I did. Not stop for many many question lovelies to thank you for syncing company his book trouble triumph is out . And Man United fans as Andrew but Vincent Kompany was a guy I always thought was a great player seems like a great man dances Chelsea fan haven't seen companies much complete sent off we've seen in the Premier League era and such a likeable intelligent and brave man seems like one of life's true good guys and I think the last 10 years and I'm all in the league playing nearly anyone else this season Radio 5 Live I'm coming out we have 79 and grime grand is back on the shelf Brian and it's 2 o'clock it's 5 large it's made. Hell of a night I mean news this afternoon breaks the party won't go toe to toe with the Tories next month and install the man in charge of Ai admits the system is not the effect . This is b.b.c. 5 I took up time for the news now in Nicaragua the breaks that party won't be putting up candidates in the 317 seats won by the conservatives at the last election later Nigel Farage says he will instead concentrate on constituencies held by Labor and remain supporting parties James cleverly is the Tory chairman I welcome the recognition that the Brits at party do risk actually preventing a stable majority government there is still of course the danger to the number of seats that it looks as if they might still starvation exactly the seats that could potentially have voted Conservative the vote will still be split and we still end up with an m.p. Who is going to frustrate the Bracks it process a man who bludgeoned a grandmother to death in a village in West Sussex has been ordered to serve at least 23 years in jail Valerie Graves had been house sitting when she was attacked in bars I'm almost 6 years ago Christiansand who admitted murderer was extradited from Romania a formal announcement is due on the future of British Steel after a Chinese firm agreed to buy the business if the 70000000 pound deal is accepted it could safeguard thousands of jobs in Scunthorpe and t. Side work as a both sides so welcoming the news to top managers for follow up so the ones up the locks also missed all the jobs which put a big concern to nobody no more with the job by the mug just fade the families those great never seen you don't know you but you know boldly and already know once again sure. But. My gosh she's had. One hand on your heart one hand in Beverly Knight is in the build it was. Happening Bev right good I'm good so let's go from music to this was pretty much all right as it was that was said that was the scholarship that stuff was it was such a very serious threat and that you know the courts asserted that the 2 things that main a lot to Beverly not. Music and wolves who were hunter models was that was a moment was the moment it was among us and I love on your Twitter how you flip between music and then being across the football completely. As you are you someone who's taken as a young go number and see how did you fall in love with the or is it just purely geographical location thing because you from the manna it's that thing of. Because my parents arrived direct from Jamaica and up and move around in. My my dad would always say you know. You don't want people to see us as being an outsider because you were born here and you'll be raised and you know you have to take an interest in what is local and even though he was a cricket man he was like you know you get interested in the football team so as a child we'd always keep an eye on what the wolves were doing and the wonderful Kenny Hippias daughter was in my. Infant School in my primary school and so I was like oh came to fame you know and growing up you just kind of gravitated towards what your friends were into everybody was a wolf fan so I became a Wolves fan and that just became something that I really began to take a bit more with my passion you know with when I got older so he I didn't go to football when I was younger my dad was the.

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And staff were struck down with an illness the exact nature of it's hasn't been confirmed but Rockferry primary says symptoms reported include vomiting and diarrhea people affected are being urged not to go to any all their g.p. And to use the n.h.s. Website for advice parents are also being told not to let children return to school until they've been free of symptoms for 48 hours they will remain closed tomorrow the president of the European Council says he's explained to Boris Johnson why he's recommending a preg says extension early yet no agreement was reached on a timetable when Boris Johnson met Jeremy Corbyn he is the former Conservative cabinet minister Lord has all time or is trying to move a position of a general who centers are made to attack across a marsh and then. They will be picked off by amendment after amendment and that's why Boris Johnson has poured out of pretty frightened that he will end up with a deal that is not attractive to him or to his colleagues a man who attacked a woman pushing a buggy for her handbag in will has been jailed 57 year old Michael Roberts of Bora road in Seacom targeted his victim as she left West Kirby library with a young child before punching her from behind he also stole a purse from a woman on crutches and has been given 5 years behind bars it's emerged Thomas Cook's entire network of high street shops was bought for 6000000 pounds his travel took over the $555.00 stores earlier this month in sports you can cop says they're away form has to improve this year if they want to successfully defend their Champions League title they won last season despite 3 away group defeats most returns to the side for tonight's trip to get after an ankle injury and the weather a dry evening but expect some rain overnight as it drops to 11 degrees Celsius tomorrow after a wet start it will be mainly fine and dry wood. I'm fresh winds highs again up to 14 degrees Celsius b.b.c. Radio Merseyside. Thank you Phil and good evening welcome to Merseyside sport for a Wednesday night with me Paul Saul tonight Liverpool return to Champions League action of face the Belgian champions gang for the 1st time ever and believe it or not Liverpool of only 11 of their last 10 away matches in the Champions League group stages kick off of the luminous arena is 8 o'clock and shortly we'll hear from you and James Milner our studio guests tonight from Liverpool Football Club but the points goals and players are not their primary concern but creating life changing opportunities for children and young people both here and around the world and making a difference to those who live in and around and feel what we're talking about the club's official charity the l.s.c. Foundation and its community programme red neighbors we'll hear about some of the areas where they've made a difference why they do it and how they think football is a powerful tool to tackle deprivation bring about long term change and reach out to those who might feel on the edge of society such as the elderly prisoners and working to tackle food poverty in Liverpool so on the way between now and 7 o'clock . For all of them who are going to starts with the action tonight Liverpool looking for their 2nd win in this season's Champions League the Reds are in gangs after winning a 7 goal thriller against Darby Salzburg earlier this month or most Salah is expected to be fit but Trent Alexander Arnold and Joel mateship are out Alexander on old has a virus but you've been caught hopes to have him back for Sunday's visit of top notch I hope you all know what it was something different. Whatever that means then I didn't notice because with his play tomorrow. Before the more easily available somebody will tell me in the appropriate moment how exactly it looks but we had contact this morning message so he was so I can imagine when Trent says I can alter it and he cannot so that's how it is. Things has happened in that period of the year to all of the all the people and to football players as well not cool but that something will not be the last time for any player that's it. Same thing there before the Man United game we thought of 2 weeks right nuff. Said let's not a serious thing but it's serious enough that he's not available tomorrow and that's all that the games coming thick and fast International is European domestic How difficult is it now when you coming up against a side light gang people would suggest that this should be quite said James quite straightforward so there's no good going to miss a game which is straightforward I think so it's just. If you saw going and it makes absolute sense that you do that before you judge an opponent if you saw going against not only the result the game that he would have said after half an hour of which would result would you suggest and the result which was that the end would not be part of any of any ideas of anybody's because it just didn't look like that they were really good they lost the game but against was generally good we don't want to make bigger than they are but they are in the Champions League and they play good football they are told when it could be annoying but they were against We had big chances but parts of the game they play good football it's a brave team they became classy champion in Belgium which is not so easy last couple of players but found others in Oregon a good team change to manage all that stuff so we just have to be there here and with the right mindset Yes and for us it's a very intense period we nearly I don't know some of my players have already been right kind of 70 games that. Season in Germany so but the international games and stuff like that so that's it no problem we are not tired not at all it's all good but of course we have to change positions but we have to change anyway to already be with you and Brendan and let's see about the can do on top of that but it's never put changing it's always for being best prepared for the next opponent and that's tomorrow gang and we wanted to find a team and I think we found it which can make life uncomfortable for gang and it's a very important part of the game Allison being back and am how did and how did I try and take that I mean obviously there would be disappointment he's overall not really thinking about. Maybe a little bit disappointed but he didn't show it at all so it was clear from the 1st 2nd and I didn't sign the contract that in a moment as long as Ali's fit and makes no not to I don't know how many 1015 mistakes in a row that we will not talk about the position one or 2 and that was given from the beginning it was always clear in a moment he's fit again and he will play to get completely calm professional but what you can see in training you didn't see anything I think they will come quite good with each other. Similar language at least and so the spirit in the training group is anyway really good because you're going to join them together with really 5. Experts So I like watching them I have no clue what the I like watching them and so in awe of how many said let's make sure that we can get rhythm back in training it looks unbelievable but the game still he is something different so really looking forward for a season help please season 4 of the from now on that would be really cool Well joining me in the studio now I've got my parish from the l.s.c. Foundation and Forbes doff from Red neighbors very good evening to both here. And I should start 1st of all you are Liverpool fan you don't have to be I'm just interested to know and it's probably a close 2nd so I'd say yeah. I support on the United but they aren't doing too good at the moment so probably the last we'll talk about that. Saying that Liverpool's a close 2nd team supported them when I was a lot to get players that I watched and then move and. Then sort of follow them all and when you work for the football call people expect you to know everything about the club so then it had about me and then yes oh close close very close 2nd I remember the days when Dundee United you were blazing a trail in Europe and yeah yeah yeah 1919 Eighty-Four at Liverpool play them in the European Cup I would only be young. They must be a bit older than me what about you you know after me and watch them found. Out for over 20 years I worked the tone of Lasik for I don't use and then only have say for nearly 4 years so you as for. Working for you tend oversleep you haven't if you have more than affection for the club you work for that grows over its own West Ham's still not so you must buy is not a season ticket there is a kid but you want to Goodison on Saturday wait no no I don't watch them of any watch in the last few years playing against teams working for my saints yeah that's quite strange really Yeah exactly. Why you have to sit you're work so you kind of got split loyalties that went to a certain extent yeah but I think I think having been everywhere for quite a long time and I think I was primed for it was a teenager so I didn't really get into the how going to y. Passionate thing I think a lot of the decision to get in I was about 13 for way my body so it's quite a few years ago 6 or 7 years ago exactly yes you're right Forbes Just tell me if you can read neighbors for those people who don't know what what's read neighbors are all about to read their bosses the club's commitment to the poor school there it is around the stadium which is out for l 5 n l 6 and what we try and do is we've picked a not perfect but we did some research before we started and selected for areas which we think that we can make a real impact in the local community so that's food poverty in education the elderly encouraging people to be physically more active and memorable experiences for young people so therefore it is that we work on we started back in 2007 in and for the last few years we've been really trying to ignore the reputation of the club and sure the local people are so awesome that we're trying to help them and help society and that's what we do we use those for programs a very clear message is very. It is of need and we can support and we can help and that's what we're trying to do so but trying to make a real difference and in our own down field there. And the idea I suppose you need to get on with your neighbors that was well to Liverpool Football Club such a dominant presence in the area it's vital that you get on with the people who live around you yeah 100 percent stadium's been there for 126 years so the club of commits the last that a years to do in community work and the last 3 years we've are the real focus no real drive to the on field data to those areas and in around field and of the law before that I feel if you look down to all 6 m. And is trying to. Sure that the club does care or does want to pick something back and then just on one star and we saw it in 2 ways we run the red neighbors and then we what kind and handle the foundation and we dove tail in and now over different projects what can then hand. Is trying to give something back to the community I should just start I did get slightly confused Liverpool would have played on the United had you not lost to Roma in 1009. 190. Family Tell me about a famous game against Gotham Barak So maybe it's a 4 it's a 5 season I don't know Ok we'll get back to what Martz going to talk about the foundation in a 2nd but let's just check on what's going on on the road. B.b.c. Radio travel let's get the latest on the roads now from a check but even Celtic still picking up those cues westbound the m $56.00 from Ford So you know how to be $3.00 to $15.00 the m $53.00 congestion is back to 11 oppressed and broke still despite the fact that all lanes have been reopened for a rat least 3 quarters of an hour it's. The journey around head up on the westbound side of the people traffic lights lane closures through the waterworks to blame for the. Journey on through botting tenants while southbound Warrington. Of the tall trees junction to put that down to the on going north works any other of a shaft to be needs 151794953 Shepherd baby say radio travel. This weekend and you'll know. Why you missed your chance to get your. Played on the radio every Friday we're going to be celebrating the end of the week with a few your songs so whether it's one that always gets you on the dance floor one that was playing a big milestone maybe in your life or one that just reminds you of a proper good time I want to know e-mail Sean Dr Stiles. The sea dark cold the u.k. And just tell me why that's the track that marks the weekend for you show weekend and then flees Oh. Yes 16 minutes past 6 is the time Liverpool of course in Champions League action tonight it's the 1st meeting in Europe between gangs and the Reds and watching the game for the b.b.c. It will be Alan Green and Steve Moore Carlo guys. Very very good thank you Alan 1st of all you think you were expecting a response from Liverpool after what was perhaps not the greatest performance at Old Trafford on Sunday. No it wasn't I think the police deserved to get the point and there's still arguments raging about it there a priest decision not to see the fall on a wreath that. 1000000000 saw across the world of television but you know I think they need to improve on that and not just because off the back of a game that they hope to win also they've got to get rid of this you know not doing well in the group stage of the Champions League at 4 games and succession their last or 3 did last season I think it will end tonight because yank you know the champions of Belgium they haven't had a great season I've a feeling they'll be overwhelmed facing Liverpool and Steven as Allan alluded to that it is rather bizarre is that the European champions put very sort of scratchy away form in the Champions League group stages just is that just because to a certain extent Liverpool know that the job done at Anfield. To be honest not too sure but it's not just the group stages when you look at Barcelona. And not game and then you you're only win the game against by Munich away from home and it's just it's not being great away from home when you look at Paris and German and you go from Man United away one city away it's almost like the big games the struggle inter to go into wishful a competent and with the arrogance of. A European champion or a potential Premier League winner and that's the mentality that needs to change I think common here tonight it's not the challenge of a parish un-German or a Barcelona where you need to be fully up the races but they drew here against Napoli Napoli are a good team and are going to have to get the job done tonight because if they win this game and they win the one in a couple of weeks against at home then they should be 3 from the group stages yes I think that's the that's the incentive. Winning tonight would do to rest a few players at Anfield for the next Champions League game against Yang and also considering that he Cup tie against Arsenal when certain he'll play out be a lap and it means they can concentrate Liverpool on really the games that matter and that's talking about on field and Manchester City coming up before yet another international break who decided you were going to have all these international breaks I know there are an absolute pain on the other thing I want is. A little bit in midfield you think mind the impact that that really all 3 of the substitutes had on Sunday at Old Trafford. Well Miller did the press conference yesterday so I think that's an indication that well it will play tonight whether he makes another change I don't know I think the front 3. Showed that they missed Sela at all Trafford Salo is buying to return tonight so he's going to have to make 2 changes in defense anyway with the absence of Alexander Arnold and matchup who are suing the Gomez and love are more common Millner in midfield What do you want to make of pro the change I don't know what stop it for alterations and I just feel that the the team from the weekend it didn't even freshen up with Jordan Henderson being away on international break playing to get international duty playing 2 games and you had Wind album as well you played 2 games for Holland and that's the engine room that when you're playing away from home you really need to freshen things up and I think looking back at it you might think we possibly got it a little bit wrong and he did need to freshen it up so I think we'll see how a host of changes tonight how many want to show you great stuff thank you guys Alan Green and Stephen Ward out there covering the game for the b.b.c. This evening I'm in the company of my parents from the n.f.c. Foundation and Forbes stuff from Red neighbors as well and we were we were cut off in our prime a little bit so I got Forbes to explain how red neighbors works the n.f.c. Foundation just tell me a little bit about how it all came about really well it's. Really Fisher charity of the football club we were going for 10 years now. As Forbes starts when early the community work with the club has been going for I think nearly 30 years the foundation rises front funds rather grants or fund raising activities so and I will ask to deliver activities and fun partners Novolog which are used to to direct it in the community we our focus is to work in the most disadvantaged communities across most of sorts of course is the 6 hours of live region but our homeys is am filled Really. Now out bikes that really center which is bang in the community. And last year we worked with just over $20000.00 young people so the range of activities from school by East. Asian programs up to military veterans fitness and engagement program so focused you work very closely together the 2 almost you know become one in a lot of incidents Yeah definitely obviously we've got 21 skills in the field area and those 3 poor scored so there's a a number of crossovers through the skill. Advance and a whole host of activities so as I said that as sort of tail and in and out and making sure that Fred never was not involved and is the foundation involved and ultimately I suppose all people see is the Elysee by which it doesn't really matter if it's red neighbors or foundation here the level at the clubs bhajan that's what attracts people because people want to be a part of the club they want to support. They want to be involved. And get to be involved in the club and and give something back it's the power of football though isn't it really football can it can I know it's a bit of a cliche but it can it can break through boundaries can it I think you can it can engage you know why that so few other things can I think and certainly emerge you saw it in Liverpool I think when I moved up to 3 years ago you know why are you ready or are you a blue you know and I don't think this is not it's not different you know there's nothing else other than that and I think you can really always think that when one of our teams walk into a classroom in the tracks the door opens the kids are engaged with what we deliver still got be quality but you've got that Weiss I think it's far easier but that also stands for when one of working in a residential home for the elderly you know why the older people are engaged the memories of Liverpool that and even if they're blues I want to engage you know we have you know we don't only work we've. Kids at Liverpool fans were kids of anything so it's it's that positive activity at the right so arms delivery boy you know and as I said Janet and I both delivering great work for society Yeah I mean how much of it you've seen how much of an impact does a player walking into say I don't know I know people's home or something like that yeah. That's very important and I think it's an there where the club does give back to the community so it's not just current players we also look at our Vollmer players and legends and managers who are still engaged with the community that come along to events and when we visit either the care homes or shallots house in our shelter accommodation then they can reminisce because they remember watching those players in action and it brings our whole minutes it's been about those memories and getting people talking and I suppose really what we're trying to do is that source isolation so giving people opportunity char talk and spend time together which is vitally important so that's just one example you've also got players who drop into skill surprise visit saw. School ticket ways other Foundation have assemblies then the players enhanced that message because they are seen as young people might want to spy or to be or that might listen to their message which hits home either the red neighbors or foundation message of making a positive change their life whatever that may be and the areas you work in a ran the song I mean we've counted 12 programs I mean it takes a lot of organization doesn't you know now from the foundation of this for an. Excuse well being in communities referee mind strains but it's 26 different programs on that I was free umbrella's and we lost weight 57 different sessions a week running across some of your different venues so as a side out although we have a movie so it's great there's probably 2 thirds of that is in the 45 and 6 Area think oh Billy talks they've broken it boots also you know and others of the stuff is out but they're real right so I think as you cite doesn't that it's cause it's quite a big machine I suppose want to bet so it's going to run in those programs and I think the view of the time of the foundation and the written language programs is the written I've used. That real target you piece around and fooled around trying to ground there which is so that every school in Enfield the $21.00 from the school was an inferior or a work with yeah because because it is somethin I mean people will say you know it's so well to wealthy multi 1000000000 pound football club in a very deprived part of the country so it's can be it can be an awkward position you've got to make it work haven't you yeah definitely it's always catch 22 as you've mentioned you've been in. Footballers and and wealth into on field as well but then what that's where we are our commitment as to local local people to try and influence and friends I'm sorry but to try and work with the men and make a difference in the community by Often these activities mentioned the foundation on a whole host of activities and I feel sure that we as red neighbors which is all free of charge when we do our active is if it's our walking football and walking netball our shared base your when we do a whole host of other activities it's always free so anything that we do with the skills making the memorable experiences there's no child share to that so it's not just some money making scheme it's the club's commitment there. And we as a club are looking to then help those in the field and we nor there's a lot to need nor those lots more that we can be doing but that's what we're doing we're working towards really target there with 4 key programs on the road near us and trying to make a difference in those 48 as well don't belt sorry I will talk in the schools because as you mentioned you go into a lot of primary schools and one school the foundation of partnered with is Florence Manley primary which is in what. 4 still so I think I think it still. Could be all 75 anyway as well I'm sure can he in the head teacher can tell us I can tell you all 4. For you correct yeah right very good to. Only them was the l.s.c. Foundation doing for your school everything we were a school in requires improvement 'd on do they all study framework and then at the end of June all state came in with 4 inspectors and they judged our school outstanding and now that Gen 8 that's our children our staff all go from those off parents they're the people who've really made the happen but the contributory factors to the where Forbes was saying about memorable lending experiences for our children to go to Melwood on the resume because I'm a Christmas cards with the players and the staff and and you can call their things the children will never forget you know that it makes their dreams and you know they're genuine the staff read neighbors 'd and the staff at the l.s.a. Foundation David and his team 'd you know they really are professional we've had we've had staff in today working on a social social action campaign looking at home most of us bullying knife crime and they really really 'd engage our children on the children look up to them respect them and so enhances the lending you know we can opportunities that they would never get with the European champions I mean schools are of the $22000.00 schools for the country would love to be able to allow 'd access what the schools locally I get in from a fantastic 2 fantastic schemes on the impact is that in terms of attendance in terms of attainment progress achievement. You know our school values if you can dream it you can achieve it and they help us to achieve our dreams through it and you think if you see because it gives the children any incentive why do why does it work is there a goal you know we want to go to Melwood if we if we do well what kind of thing well yeah I mean you know the children have been to football matches haven't they've met players the players a pennant a school they don't meet meet and greet where they monitor and play as I'm filled they've been where they give out the tickets and they do 'd the you know the prize draw and x.x.i. Thing that stimulates them doesn't it if you're in school on your sofa in school 'd the time to go out to Anfield to go out to Melwood to go with your parents to these games it's helping them massively and ad free y. And I think so it's not just you know they the incentives I think it raises the bar it raises their aspirations and I think you know I'm much whether they haven't the sounds of the profound soul or the not even madly keen on football the experience of going to Anfield or going to model what it's massive for them isn't it they really really enjoy it well it's interesting because that was going to be my next question actually can you are in heaven heartland really where you are a new book You Can Tell me just what one wants to much interest on I mean I I set up a central evidence football club called extra time where we had 5005 children through . Hugely successful center for 10 years I set up a central look the football put gold Reggie case we had thousands of children through for over 10 years 'd and for me it's all about the children that live a policeman whether they read so whether they lose you we want our children to achieve in life to have successful lives on both football clubs are amazing and what they do 'd for the children they really are and often you don't get to hear 'd about that and like Soros I know that. Christine and Forbes and right neighbors David and the team in the foundation that's so dedicated they're so passionate that when when you bring in those people you know when they bring them Scotty you know they bring the trophy and they do it. They do different sports coach and they do all 'd the basketball 'd on homophobia red card against racism and they do road safety workshops but whole new curriculum it really really enhances the learning for the children well can congratulations on what you've done as well and you know that's been asked us to our children our governors and now everyone you're just sort of trying to shape and sort of implied it's always that. But. I can praise them highly enough. So dedicated Well there you go thank you very much can no trouble at all my savings. Can heat Nass from Florence Manley primary in one house for profit making you feel when you can talk about that about the difference that you've all made. And diets and I was a lead in the red naval team is a real privilege and as Ken mentioned we have got a fantastic team and we're all saying like minded people who want to help all those we want to make a difference one we've all got high integrity levels and great work and I want to continue that so my water can wish skill such as Long smelly and on the other 21 flame an ace plus the 4 high schools and on field and it's just great to hear that we are a contribution and ultimately make a difference in children's life because that's why that's why I've always a signed up to do this because I do want to make a difference and I do want to contribute to make and live a lot to say about society and matter I mean really charities or foundations for football clubs is still a relatively new thing. Really I mean 30 odd years ago we probably didn't have anything like this how has it changed since you've been doing it would you say I think that what's changed is the scope and the breadth of what we do when I 1st started out there was there was I think 3 of us that level work for with bags of what was in farms Constantine's goals. The difference is it's evolved so that is on the foundations of this I think it was not needed it was 4440 on stuff running from football coaches to youth workers can you just mention it there we've got team who run the oil projects who are working across 2nd room from schools encouraging social action and. Helps to build community cohesion so the rinds and breadth of what's done I think you're right I think basically that the football club foundations of evolved and community programs revolve from being Forbes And I have both been involved of course on so on from being purely offering football culture and sports coaching now it's about and you said earlier always about using that club brain and the log on the power of the club in the local community to have a positive social impact and be there on education crime health inclusion so across across any any sort of major target measure that's where we can hopefully have an impact and just to pick out some of the programs that you run and as we've sat there and there are many so I can highlight them all unfortunately one of them you support military veterans Yes So we were actually using a lot of function after access the most and also when we use that to fund the military veterans program which works with I think we've got around 90 vets on the program it's really run at the moment it's primarily a sports vice program and we get very fortunate access to the club's academy Kirby on a Sunday and run the football program they play against other clubs other play we're going Man City Burnley other vets but now we're working on additional employee billet isa pole working with the veterans up in Liverpool that is ice you saw in the report to offer a more holistic support is. If there's need around mental health support of us on posting housing etc So we recognize that the vets are a big part of our community almost you sort of and John of what was possible I'm one of the things Forbes that I know you offer is what we've always been to talk about the schools out there sports not just about going into schools and and helping out you know join the working school day I know you do breakfast clubs and as a parent myself I know that that relieves a lot of the burden doesn't it for families who are trying to you know maybe go out to work but haven't got any childcare and they're definitely that's one element another element as we know their skill hold is a lot of skill children go. You know could go a couple of days are without any feds we know that a lot of skills in an fields have free school meals and you know their families find that really tough you know. Coming up and we know that when children are off parents have to spend money and so we've committed as a club to every holiday period to deliver free breakfast clubs field over there so Kenny that we stand so we've also got breakfast club stop the next week we invite up to 70 families that's always free and the invites go through our skills there then select the pupils and families they come and we just have the privilege of looking after them give them a heart healthy breakfast we have a raffle we play fun games we have special visitors come and then they get a mini stadium tour so it's not seen as a breakfast club that or I've been selected because I'm struggling it's because we want to engage families to spend time together there's nothing more bad than family spending time together and if we can do that I am field then it's a real privilege for us to do that so we're for the combat zone and breakfast clubs every hold a town and what's the feedback that you get from from these families and from from parents when you know when they've been and they've experienced it yeah they're all of it obviously there come to on field there's a real tree a lot of people maybe haven't been time feel before are have even stepped over the line in the queue to live in the streets close by and but really make an en feel special and having fun. Together and the feedback we've been had There's always positive and our biggest thing is people want more more more can we do more can we have more opportunities and that's what we're trying to do this or the breakfast clubs for me is a good thing that we do that sort of help so that fit poverty but then also gets families to spend time together and Randell f.c. Which is going to because we want them to feel part of their family matters while I mention some of the projects that even another one supporting those are cystic fibrosis so the movie project is a project run in partnership with old high tombs hospital it was actually founded we're very fortunate to have you know Clark was a foundation ambassador he was the. Guest of it didn't we last year and I was the fun stuff going in working with young people before process physical activities are a big factor of improving their in their health and our chances so that God's going off of sports and his great success and then what we drawn to saw him post the young people to activities in the community that I can carry on and carry that physical activity on for the rest of the loss and there's something called Right to Play yes a right supply we just saw a partnership there are the charity they use much like us they use sport as a as a tool for education and empowerment they work in some of the most impoverished communities in the world every 15 countries across the world from January we're going to be running a project with the mean most you saw it as part of our open goals project we work in free provision in parks and I can spice it for 2 new families and we should be delivering all the right supplies that we delivered in Bangkok and so on and and they mean I think within for used on China as well. You would have probably seen the rot supply like on the back of the Champions League. Shirts and that and it's interesting that's when earlier about truancy in the interest of players and lifted him up some of them want to price it the. Gives the young people to my run a session in we brought supply in Lebanon or in Holland or Inchon or to see the club livable connected to them and recognize we're doing what well if there is that young person you know in Dawson that gives them so he's going to be so new is a new partnership for us we're looking at looking forward to going to get the ball rolling Well I just got the team news actually for the Liverpool game tonight quite a few changes Allison is in goal and it's James Milner right back by the look of it with love and Van Dyke as the center abs and Robertson at left back then the midfield to changes at the beginning I was still there but cater and oxalate Chamberlain both starts with man a solid and from a no as the front 3 as you would expect that's the Liverpool team use well food banks are one way that red neighbors is helping their local community each match day at Anfield fans are asked to bring along food donations which are then distributed among the al $45.00 and $6.00 postcode and Vicki Palmer's b. Is from the north Liverpool food bank and oversees the operation enjoys being on the line to how it Vicky. What just tell us a little bit about the food banks and how all this came about then. See what the founders created that way way manage North Liverpool Food Bank which is a triple for your bank we've got the banks across North live apparel and 6 days a week. Last financial year we've had 11236 people across North Liverpool. Wehrhahn with red neighbors and found support for your bank allow those to make sure that we had enough donations to do that in fact it was 27 percent of our 2 nations came through red neighbors and fund support for the bank last year which was great because we had a 40 percent increase in numbers on the a beautiful wrong so I mean right now you're busy is really crucial to your work then absolutely the relationship we've got with red neighbors as a whole pressed and as has been a great one to be fair it's really hard sometimes the charity support cross what you need because obviously there's a lot of corporate and they help a lot of charities across the u.k. For red neighbors sat down and listen to was and they've had what we need and we've had what they want to do and in the community that they're in. The communications being great and it enables us to get where we ought to die and I'm not offering as was mentioned in the prior is how power when the counter my they'd say oh yeah so we've got a couple of key games Jordan the season when one of them key games happens and a player comes out donate 2 has a few bugs toll we have a really good chat with them and explain to them what we do and we know that the key game the next I don't Asians guy will especially when it goes on social media because people the general public are just so inspired when they see that they pick up on it really really quickly and that's been really important say was the social media hey it's people ask. But I will say. It may only feel like a little saying about players today I'm sure that those and because they're always blown away when they come to serve as well as all its maggot in Poland it was to say to keep food poverty and live appeal on the fruitful front. We could talk about the reasons why we're in this situation and the politics of it but in Am trying terms how how great is this is the need and the need for food in North Liverpool I'm beyond what we're saying at the moment as a rise and where poverty and families commence a food bank I mean just a short story I'm on the other die and she came to food bank and a lunch break she way say a few hours a week and she couldn't come afterwards because we didn't have a food bank open and she didn't want to bring a children to the food bank so she actually came Joran a lunch break and. I'm not suddenly you know the cost of living has gone up so much but people's general in Colma stayed the same and so we see in a big shift you know a lot of people think it's just benefit releases all you know it's just people lot of homeless going to food banks it's not all it's just the normal way in class family Yeah it is wrong I'm and I must mention because this is goes on you know a lot of home games and we've got to talk them game on Sunday coming up it's worth reminding fans that the they can bring along donations calmly they can fund support of food banks of call 3 spots around the grounds and full funds to drop their food banks so nation and a grace that just fall and see is that to not to every home game called Rain or shine or snow and unread neighbors are really good at looking after them making sure they've got hot drinks making sure they will make an childer they really hospitable to the volunteers and it's a great wish and relationship Well thanks for coming on Vicki much appreciate you thank you thank you I think he promised me that from north of the pool food bank and I know red red one has been heavily involved in this Forbes I'm the point is I think you know I mean I know one of the robbers is very posh and the prices want to be involved the night yeah definitely and I've got the great privileges as well as all those in the club to spend time with the players and talk some about what we're trying to do what we're trying to achieve and then look to them to help support us by as Vicki mentioned social media as well everyone lives now if one lives online the call phones about Talbot's and evidence for God nowadays so we're trying to push that message out so and always have been on day had joined a club and I met with some purely because I thought used to play for Dundee and I exited Ok yeah yeah any Exactly and plus we want to think I translate and. So I met Sam I knew that he'd done stuff at the food bank before annoyed when he was a wholesale. And I approached him to say this is what we are doing and he said Amen so it gives us an opportunity to ask you to support what we're doing to and Hunter and then also burn that soul level about higher which he has done which and which he continues to do and we've got other players through either their foundations our charter is that they support want to help other activities but you know the food bank. Is a constant thing we do every home game is because sadly one very coarse we have found support in food bank and we're trying to get that mentality when people come to Anfield it's the classic you know keys for on money a wallet and a donation policeman of the nation to on field and we nor the stairs in the north of the city to help laws and real need great stuff my guess so much parish from the Isle of c. Foundation and stuff from Red neighbors bought with them in a sack and. Crawl songs b.b.c. Radio Merseyside. B.b.c. Radio travel I let's get the latest on the road from a chap that even Solti family improving way spawn of the m 56 where we were seeing cues from 14 to be 3 to 15 at the m 53 congestion at one point back to where I live in a Preston Brook of course nowhere near that bad now in fact almost actually fully back to normal on that stretch checking in with the senses which is good news as we head towards 7 o'clock maybe still a bit busier and head out for the road works in the a slight straw that should ease up in the next 15 minutes or so approaching a few for traffic lights and every else doing fine as far as I can tell if you can tell me different you need so 151794953 Shepard baby safe Radio Merseyside travel this Saturday from 2 after getting back to winning ways Everton look for another 3 points a bright eye was the work of the government up on. The hour but blues travelled to the south coast looking for their 1st win on the road in the lead 6 I took over. C 6 gulf is a 3 park we'll have full exclusive local radio commentary on radio most insightful . And it is Merseyside sports at 13 minutes to 7 we're here through until 7 o'clock talking about red neighbors and also the l f c Foundation a big part of what you do as well as that is the legends charity games isn't it and they've really taken off and I you know we are just thinking when you went to them but Belgium that he played for the Legends in the game up and why a Rangers couple weeks ago but the the legend reminds you for such a point earlier not just in the games but the fact that it comes to activity as I was fortunate enough to take your brush into prison and into ice from people caught a few weeks ago as part of a 20 project but the legend mining game is am I call fundraiser original reason. We usually hope you would have won the smart reply and international were broke you March to get the access to at that stadium this will be if we go to March to bear for year or the last 3 games are sold out and Forbes mentioned if you thought about that the opportunity for families to come to Anfield. Full of kids he said it's a family atmosphere we've been fortunate after some great opposition but also we've got some great talent we've had you know Steven Gerrard's pli Carragher You know we've got other I think now our talent of recent and moving these players he's pretty rich and it's over Yeah and the fact that I give that on is a minute and as Matt said that it's all about making it affordable because you must be conscious that Premier League football is expensively I was not on people in the Sabria may not be able to for children might have never been to Anfield otherwise not exactly and that's why I said the Legends game the foundation as a great showcase for funds and families to come together to Anfield and as you had to make that's affordable and they can do that. One thing just to mention about states as of this part a red neighbors we have a free skill check and a share of watch over $1100.00 tickets go to local skills to allow children to come to the game so that's another great opportunity where we know that families may not be out so far to come to the game but through the Frisco tech it's through the legends games another opportunity is field and people can come to on field and experience the atmosphere in the game yeah and it's not just about you know we match now a lot about the schools and obviously get and you know and help in the elderly as you mentioned there about the prisons I mean there's 2 to prisons and north of the Paulism there are you know just in North Liverpool so you have you been doing a lot more on that you know so we didn't run for its part of a national political 20 project I think if it's in a prison where 1000 people cos it's about something probably program really using sport we talked about it a lot and what you do sport is that and football is a hook but it's actually employed believe program to actually hopefully improve the opportunities for the for the prisoners when they come out by they come out they're members of academia again I so if the support there the chances of that they're going to go back in additional support there might be more positive choices but that the reason that it's a good example of all that later is going to create that and I was asked to fund so many different activities the committee found. That we were on the cash for kids I think body end of this 1st year out of the work we've off we support 70 year old local charities and community groups to deliver their programs in their communities that makes ice that's going to begin packed and that will come from that little guy I mean can you see both the organizations growing and growing I mean you know I suppose in a way you got be careful what you take or have you to a certain extent isn't so much you can do yeah definitely I think that's what we said at the very start of survey never says very focused and I'm filled their foundation Scott there in that of the city and why did a field and it's just about what I consider other open communications and ultimately. Sure enough really is l f c to be into the community. And have done for a number of years Are you Ok. For Going Rogue. But so yeah no I get a yeah yeah we have to be realistic as well and you know we what we do want to deliver great work in the community but ultimately we have to be realistic see we can't be all things to all men but what we can be as we can be focused and we can deliver successfully and then build on and use those staff and stores the belts of bigger things I mean you're constantly thinking about new projects I guess yeah and I was just thinking of one of the key things that we did the foundation is and right now is the Siamese partnership so it's not about asking and some of the experts moving so we just had the relaunch to know about projects which is useful in sports the guys win so to run a activity sessions but we have. Most of farm issue with partners is our police and then myriad local community groups to actually to add value to young people come to play football but in a more we've room and don't carry no arms and we've. Straight past any number of groups that advocate a program and hopefully deliver a positive message beyond the physical activity piece that we deliver for something you want to mention someone is Yeah definitely yeah I want to mention that there's a gentleman who has what in the community for a number of years he was involved in. The football in the community days when I 1st started and he was 64 yesterday so I want to put a shout out to the Sullivan and say Happy Birthday Fiesta there and then keep up the get work that you did and have done for many years and then there's probably not too many people in on field who don't know who had the solvent so half of us daddy is he is a hard worker is a 100 percent yeah 100 percent you can trust anyone more when you call up on the 100 percent and for people who want to find out more about that the organizations is there anywhere they can go website that kind of game so the n.f.c. Foundation Web So we've got all of our activities on their start from the get in contact with us drops along we've got we've got a big and growing volunteer program we want to get we want to get members of community involved I think the we're quite fortunate I think that we've been able to work with and positively impact the laws of thousands of young people across and food and beyond and that's going to be expanding I think with we've we've been in post for 7 months now an offset at saying the target we want to be working every all of the most in the communities across the most resources but in the next season so we're getting there but we got some ways to go but it is part of groups out there that want to work as you please get in touch what's great meet you both thanks so much for coming in well good luck with all the things that are on the way that's my parish there from the l.s.e. Foundation for stuff from Red neighbors before we go we're going to have the money to play in what. Looks like he's playing it right back the ceiling it's changed Miller of course after being thrashed on much day one of the Champions League and earned a point last time out and held Natalie to a goal of straw at home they sit in 6 spots in the Belgian leak 10 points off the top spot but James Milner is not expecting an easy ride this evening can I think any Champions League games are straight forward going to a bit of. Strong at home their strong side anyway and I think that a good European campaign last year and obviously after a good result against not play they're going to be full of confidence and want to be part of the performance and be a big test for us it's pretty mad to think that you know the last couple of seasons you haven't won away in the group stages is it because it's like such a key period domestically as well as on a European basis the way that the 2 these 2 competitions run the thing that might come into it there's a lot of games around this period it's tough love international breaks as well so it's hard to get that rhythm and plenty of games but on the other hand we haven't been good enough or for a moment that's the simple fact of them are we have to be better life from home and there are no easy games in the Champions League or at home or away so we have to be better we have to improve but obviously the amount of the game that we have that might be a factor but we have a very good squad of players and an experience squad of players how to deal with that so we need to improve away from home we know that and hopefully you can do that stand tomorrow why do you find it so difficult that what is it about playing away in Europe without some very good results way from home is all I think by Munich stands out as a good result away from home as well so you know we start she can pay now you want you know obviously we can think about the bottom game which was a massively important game and went there and did the business against all the best teams in Europe whereas you can tie around the group games and this and not. We want to when we go into every game once and so when it won't be easy but we have to go out there and perform to make that happen for you because of that you're one of the few 1000 be nominated for the Ballon d'Or or more seriously what to think it says about. The cloak that wraps so many it's quite extraordinary at so many players of yeah I think it's well deserved the larger and I think it says a lot about the team and the job we're doing as a club and as a squad collectively. You know there's probably a couple more who could have other chance as well so that says a lot about the team and you know again to back to back champions league final I think helps as well but. I think the great thing about the Scottie can see how we play we play as a team a team from everyone does the job on both sides of the ball and individual awards are great they come along but you have to be doing the business as a team and win trophies as a team and I think you can see that's the mentality when the squad in the team always comes 1st and if there's individual wards to be picked up on the way then that's great and that's recognition for the job you do every single player that I know for a fact that sacrifice individual awards for the team Team trophies seat this period where there is a lot of games that suit you because it means more rotation in the midfield and it means more chances for you to get to get game time as well I think as as a player you want to play as many games as you can so. Every time you get that chance to go out there and perform you need to do it to the best of their ability and make it difficult for the manager to leave out and. Before we've got a strong squad of players in the competitions strong in every position and that's exactly what what we need to push each other to perform so having our mounted games is what happens when the shocks us for them we're lucky enough to be in. And all the trophies and we've got that so we're never single game McCown So we'll try and do I. Think all the players are used to it now and it doesn't make any easy Another boys with internationals and travel and things like that as well but. You know we've gone the distance in this competition for copiers in around we know it's all about so I wanted to carry on doing that and you know wanted to keep looking after ourselves and hopefully have the luck with injuries and things are all see so Allison Becker back in goal on the weekend will see the team's coach back with us in the without him but what much of how much of a difference will it make how many. Back in the yeah I think I'd remember fantastically well it wasn't easy for him a step and at the time I did. It wasn't much and it came in on the job a done much from must have saved big times in games so he's done a fantastic job and slipped straight into the squad so I can't say enough good things about him but obviously all in our good years we're now how well he did in his 1st season and what he brings to the team both in goalkeeper and as a character but also where there's a billet with his feet as well so it is obviously a massive book and will help us again and hopefully. Hopefully once I can take a long to get back up to speed because it's not easy as well often a broken pre-season and things like that obviously with us in the summer but again March the job done while I was playing was fantastic just in terms of your own future there been any developments on the contract front and you expect to still be a Liverpool player this time next season. There's been talk so hopefully it gets resolved sooner rather than light at this moment I'll just keep playing football as well as a come James Milner they're looking forward to tonight's game against gang give you just tune in and I can give you the team use a few changes so obviously Trent as out injured and also massive as well so the team is Allison it looks like James Miller there at right back lover and Van Dyke in the center Robertson at left back and then a midfielder for Beano Kater and Oxley Chamberlain with Monterrey Salah and for me you know as the front 3 that's the way the team used books Jane Foster is on the way Next have a great Wednesday evening. Your music your stories your life. B.c. Radio Ms aside. Getting a 7 o'clock the latest news from film on good evening the man who called colossal damage to new ferry in will when he calls to gas explosion to claim on his insurance He's beginning a 20 year jail term 57 year old Pascal Blasio. 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One of the biggest one of the most iconic pictures in the Premier League I'll be joined shortly by our correspondent John Murray and by Robbie Savage 1st of all let's take you into the Championship Jon Benet case we're going to war not see them forest near here the d.w. Stadium at halftime forest 10 game unbeaten run under threat Jamal low with the only goal sliding in from close range surely more group was also hit the post from a free kick for Wigan Forrest about half chances and a decent penalty shout turned down some area o.b. Went down in the box the referee said no penalty Forest boss Sabri was booked for protest in Wigan looking for 3 consecutive high wins we're going to war not see him for a snail at half time thank you very much John Wright we will get underway here at Old Trafford after the news on 5 Live medley from digital b.b.c. Sound small speak. Is b.b.c. Radio 5 senior Ministers insist the u.k. Will leave the e.u. 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On Tuesday night sky. Things around within a cyclical against red sun Belgrade see it is your station and this is fine if . Good afternoon and welcome to Old Trafford 5 live Premier League Sunday huge guy in the prime a late model chest united against live a poll of a poll looking to reestablish the 8 point late they can't start winning last season where all traffic they without a little bit tentative will they go full throttle they start going all out for 3 points for Manchester United just outside the bottom 3 it doesn't matter if it's only going to socialize fault is that a tipping point for them on chest United boss we will hear from both money just ahead of a commentary which kicks off at full $30.00 Rock. Money play me any fool Good afternoon. About. The. Window I think there is. Actually people. Because very often we talk about. Completely different. Anything else that what you might call ordinary people do but I think. If you're a professional and you go about your job you're always going to try and be motivated to do the best you do but there are certain instances where it just means a little bit more and sometimes sometimes. And that's what we have potentially here. Which jumps out to me this morning is. When. They were all traffic in Goodison Park. The World. The biggest. Challenge him for the title No because of his decline. To believe that this site since its Alex Ferguson of finished on average 21 and a half points behind the champions over the last 6 seasons and I think that's a lot to do with the quality of play here too many players. Change of managers so now they have I think it's a rebuild I think it is he needs time there's no doubt about it. And it's going to take time and they've become non-existent in the title race and that's very worrying for the fans but then look at Liverpool for 33 and I was speaking to a guy downstairs use of a big pool finally said to be flying over Trafford this afternoon but those red arrows are. Golden in 1000 appearances up between the together 16 or so about must have the facts completely and utterly right because you're a modern professional. I know by. Which hopefully will be a continuation of the afternoon because you will be plenty of opportunities. Yes I think one of the things though is it if you look at it. And also I think when we look at the team selection. You know probably most of us could name. Closely you know maybe. Maybe not but. There are questions in so many different places about what the team selection is going to big you know the injuries obviously playing a part in the. You know I think I think. A reflection of the fortunes at the moment at Phil Neville is about John as he's just about to. Fail let's say from the Manchester United manager. When he signed for money United This is the 1st one you look forward to every every year when they're. At home against. One of the main rivals in a big picture and you will know it's a chance to. Get in the history books because you can score a winner against Liverpool that's always going to be there with them and it's too big for me no confident in what we're trying to do confident with my stuff the improvement is there to see us of course it's about results. Start winning games goals is the main thing we need to create more chances because the part I think we've. But we haven't been adventurous enough taking enough risks you know if you watch the best teams around the ball more often that we do make more rooms in behind. Part of the boys when the when they're losing confidence maybe they want to play a bit more safe and it's my duty to say it's safety here. At this club you do take risks. Fail What's your current assessment. Well I think I think we've got to be patient I think you look at the the players. The sales in the summer and the buys coming in there's obviously a long view approach at the moment I think just really admitted that nowhere near where they should be everybody knows that but I think that's where the realisation should be that this club this club now has to start building strong foundations not just keep getting science from left from right and said they've they've got to build the foundation strong I think at. This club now it's got to invest in this manager and in a young players and give them time to develop. Just a couple things from the match program today which I think really tells you clearly what he's thinking or going to soldier in he says he talks about we have a plan for both the short and the long term and he says promoting young players from within is part of our d.n.a. Just as much as entertaining our fans we have a responsibility to build a team which is instilled with better discipline respect and humility off the page as well as a confident approach on the pitch and he says it's clear we're not there yet but there's a process that will take time and will require us to take a step or 2 back before we move forward you know if they are actually quite frank and fair assessment of where they are I think when you hear him talk about humility on and off the pitch I think I think for the last 3 years it's probably been a lack of that I mean it is times when when you lose games where players are doing things that are not the done thing at this football club and he's trying to restore values the values and discipline are not just. Get them back to any way you look at the 2 best teams city. You can see there's a discipline in that club. With players that now united now need to develop you know the big thing as well is a lot Spain spoke about the youth now could. Full coverage in a massive differences as you look at the use set up now the players you've come to Chelsea on the players coming through now and the pleasure Chelsea will win is in the youth team they've won all the way through their young careers and in the process of when they go to the 1st of now when is the class night to go winners we were never to fill whatever said These players now who a person into the 1st you have. The youth teams of struggle in the 23 side and the Premier League so individually they good but with the way they've come through the broke through because they are good enough players film film I disagree but I think individually they are very good as a team collectively those players have a much in those you side business the young players which I agree with is not many players in this squad. Even though. It's probably only Ashley Young Probably the head league title squad so so that shows you the inexperience of actually winning this club you have to win you have to win to be successful and you have to win every single day. And one of the statistics I've seen this week is about the starts. Going to harden comparing over the same number of games to get a good club and it's a similar number of points that forgetting about the number of points that they pick to fail do you see similarities in we're all going to trying to do we need early stages at Manchester United compared to what club date when he took over and things weren't rosy from day one know that they were rosy from day one but I think the minute you came in you could actually see a direction in which he was going the style of football the type of player he was bringing in it was visible it was visible and I think when you have that kind of vision and people can see he think I'm going to invest in this manager because they know I think he's going to take us on a journey where we're going to get stability I think with all the now while he needs time time because he can you can see the way that introducing young players is introduced in an. I may be a home. For these to come to fruition just like the club needs probably 23 years for this to continue to fruition I think the big difference as well which I used to look when felt not generation comes through they have players in the side who are winners but with great experience and play well this these young players now when they come into the team and experienced plays are either not on the team consistently not playing well themselves Christian farms and therefore the experienced players are in the side but they're not helping the young players because they always will. And if you change the experienced players on a bad time self it's very hard for those carrots. To talk about the. Medal that we won in 96. Carried by cancer. Key You know they were men they were men in a team that carried those over the line we. Had moments in the season where we played well they played well to fall to gauge the ones that was the title you look at this month she nighty team and I see. Is a real competent leader but apart from not they're all still fighting for their own popularity their own standing within this football club is there a tipping point they say you know only going to needs time as you say they just outside the box and for a at the moment clearly nobody thinks they're going to get relegated but it is there a tipping point could there be a moment maybe like to the season where if they're not doing that much better than now he has a problem. You know they shouldn't be because where do they go next where do they go next you know David Moyes Josie Marino now all eagerness with a different philosophy from from from the previous the manager you can't just keep chopping and changing managers this money time needs to be eat 2 or 3 transfer windows the sign is in the summer suggested that united think it long. Because they do think. That you want to sign them 3 players so now they've got to start thinking long say when you start thinking long term it means you've got to sometimes like I think he said in his program sometimes you've got to take a step back and that's what's happening this moment in time is probably the Al I saw less day yesterday less on paper of probably got one or 2 players all maybe mold that can get into this United side that we could see 3rd in the league I think and United are just going to bite the bullet and this is a poll says ours well. It was interesting we had the sporting director. And he was talking about the huge amount of work that he has the day when he's always going around and he's always looking at players he never seems to have a day off and that's why it's. Essentially. Does only going to have a bit too much on his plate at the moment he doesn't yet have the sporting director in position. Well I don't think. These countries Skelton that they'll be a scout will be scouting network at Munshi 98 I think I think obviously he's been documented. To fill that position as a sporting director director of football you've actually got to pick the right person someone that knows the d.n.a. The fabric of the club the style in which these clubs built and not probably takes time and you've got to pick the right person there are probably you know 4 or 5. Good jobs as it is at the moment so you know. $98.00 is going to be the 1st time so it's a big step. And we can get it up in about 12 minutes time the k. Decisions are only going to. We've seen pitches he's trouble with the 1st team he's at the ground so that suggests to me he will play I think Marcial you know we've seen him one of his 1st. Trip today where he could decide. On the goalkeeper and I think the season when he started when he faced very good you know that the best performance for me this season and Phil you know as well as the 1st half. When they press so high dynamic the ball high up the pitch they were brave they made mistakes in the final 3rd and listen if. They would have won the game you know and since then it's just not really perform the Chelsea for now was just. So I think they're going to miss that creativity. Because whatever people say. They will. All if he is. A very very good number 2 he's a very. Down at There's a slight. Question for the manager Bill potentially we might see. Today. One thing in I still got the best number 2 in the Premier League I think. That I think he was and he's been a look at the. Front of it I actually don't think played all that well for the last probably 6 to 12 months so I think he will play today. Definitely number 2 in terms of quality and experience and I think the the front 3 for the wolves was rushed with James speed speed is the most important thing today . Can you. Compete physically with this unbelievable little side I think what is unfair. Should be a play on the counter-attack. Deep Old Trafford 75000 against their rivals rivals in terms of over there is not rivals now for the challenge of the titles but can really really sit back over the counter attack against Liverpool home no I think I think he did that today that talks a lot of the philosophy of the style of football that United should be played that goes against everything he says he sits back and defends de Yes they'll be times when you will have to gain and you have to defend but I think from the off I think all you will want to take the game to Liverpool I think he's he's asked them and he's pretty much told that he wants them to be brave and he wants them to take risks and be brave it means playing on the from full. And I think with the players that United of goal I think they will be better by going for it rather than sitting back because this little side at any given moment could cut through and there is a big risk that because the risks in attacking Liverpool are you could get absolutely. Yeah I think we used to have the saying If you going to die die try and I think that's what United have got to do today yes they've got to play smart. The March Liverpool the polls from 3. Going to March to 3 in the energy of midfield Yes they've got to be tactically aware of that will ultimately win this game kicks off they've got to somehow disrupt the rhythm of Liverpool and that's by actually being brave taking risks and playing the ball forward and fall the speedy team. If you think of the pool were a bit tentative here last season more so than we've seen in you know they get. Probably it was a side that we've never seen of little village that they try to soak up I think probably the tactic of you can call it today might be just maybe encouraging nighty to come on to them and then look for solace for me. Manet that there's a rumor downstairs that maybe Salah might not be fit to play so. Probably sets out to look to counterattack against this man united. Yeah it was a stupid outside Actually it was no one that I kind of found and. I thought that was from some sort of reputable source No it wasn't for me. It's interesting because if. Liverpool really would like to play on the counter-attack would they they would be delighted if Manchester United went full throttle. They would it would be as Phil says but you know that I think that. Is if Marcellus fits from a left side from against Liverpool's right side a vulnerability there with Alexander as much as great forward assists did not Ball them enough left channel is a problem for Liverpool I don't think they can play hard which they tend to do this season is now that if both teams play to their maximum capability Liverpool will win but are still says. Mix it up and the injuries fail a something that has been mentioned about Manchester United I read today 11 to 13 players they season do you think that's a result of the the style and the fitness demands that the early going to put in on the place yeah I definitely think I think when you hope the intensity levels and you reach the levels of training then it becomes a time when probably if you so if you're mentally know that you will break down I think well he's got to do he's got to find out those players your ability to play for this football club and sometimes sometimes when you raise the bar sometimes players can go sometimes players sometimes players actually. Just have to cheat because that. Was. The. Man believed to be. a really impressive manner that's actually the plan planned for today as well so but we still have to play and that's what I can't just smash the embargo at the park the team he said matches he hates it and we're going to say there was a remote sun it was going to play but he isn't analysis back in Gulf being more about us not enough time for him so it's not the most serious injury in the world but it was shared by the time most of shortfall for this game so everybody who thought after the game against Leicester there moaning about it was not really Joe Moore was injured and now he's not injured any more but not yet so that's all it is that's a little little difference Alys the opposite Joe the policy 3 weeks he's training with the team had a very very good training to very good training weeks now in a row so we'll be back here and love it thanks so much for your time sweetie pie so much thank you. Great stuff you can click the life with Julia Farrington and we watch still too much of a John Murray stunt double to do that. In 3 minutes time here on probably leaks and I am Phil Neville thank you very much for being with us and I can get a number that's it. He's got he's got a inside job. Grayson Phil Neville the England women's head coach and of course a former teammate of Ali going to so see I here at Manchester United let's go into the Championship Wigan Nottingham Forest jump in and in full not in a forest a struggling stave it so we can war not going for a snow 68 minutes on the courtroom all over the only goal in the 1st off in the 2nd half we can of come the closest to scoring again Gavin Massey for saying I could save from the forest goalkeeper forest looking rusty although they've had a 2nd decent penalty shot of the game just turned down Ribeiro going down in the box referee said no penalty we've got 22 minutes left Wigan Athletic war Nottingham Forest new big day for Andy Murray today as he plays his 1st a.t.p. Final since recovering from the Korea saving surgery he's facing Stanford brink it's a day and a tennis correspondent Russell Fuller is here and it's remarkable that he should be in the final in Antwerp in what is only the 6th a.t.p. Event of his comeback especially as this is the 4th week in a row on the road and competing for Mari like the British player stammering case seeking a 1st title since potentially career ending surgery he's the world number 18 a u.s. Open quarter finalist just last month Murray still finds himself at 243 in the world and Franco with the brightest start has the early break leads by 2 games to our 1st set wrestle thank you very much right we will be back here at Old Trafford very very shortly with the full team news ahead of Manchester United and Liverpool it's a common trick I'm on Premier League Sunday now we're going to get the news with Richard Foster Home digital b.b.c. Sense Slosberg. Is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live senior ministers say the government will press ahead with trying to get parliamentary approval for Boris Johnson's brigs a plan disappointment to us the e.u. 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Radio 5 Live The new in Show is your place to react to the week's biggest news story what is happening here is uniquely wrong here tell me that this could be very tough story the need to act is now under scale of the change that we need to make his huge Your voice your views bring the. Big priority who do what is being people a little bit take it before I get the advice they were giving wrong today's news tomorrow's big stories and you on the phone is in the live show tonight on b.b.c. Radio 5 Live. Premier League full then anyone else 5 lives Premier League Sunday. Welcome back to Old Trafford on the Bulls and on the pitch a at Manchester United against Liverpool half an hour away the players of the out will be very very shortly but who will they be we had a slight false start but now we get to. Yes we pretty much know the details courtesy of European club the Liverpool manager so if the Premier League were to take issue with and I welcome to do that however so the main points are that. To continue in goal for Manchester United and returns for United as well. Returning from injury is one of the United substitutes and for Liverpool Noll today he's out although you know good club said he is fit but not ready to play just yet but Allison is back in the last 11 matches and Matic is Ok to play in central depends but just united point if you do make 2 changes actually from the previous match it's a James's Park Lindelof coming in for the matter and injured as well as possible of course United 3 central defenders It looks like Lindelof and. The wing back. In the middle and Pereira behind Rush but James and a little pull for change is actually in all from their previous match which if you remember was the 21 win against Leicester at Anfield So Alison returns padre and he was on the bench at the outfield changes matted and Jordan Henderson back in. And. Around the substitutes of the full team Allison Alexander Arnold matter of Robertson for being here with Henderson and White Album in the middle. For me no one to recreate the front 3. It's not the most complicated question in the world know my. Blog for Liverpool. It is a huge thrill but at this moment in time. And I'm sure Liverpool fans of you will nest on the result in 06060 myself and Sam quick if you are going to miss one of those 3 right now it would be more solid for me I think Mani for me no at this moment in time would be the chick 1st 2 of the 3 I would choose most college an incredible player done amazingly well but if there was one of the 1st thing that was missing and Liverpool fans might disagree it would be I was Manchester United I would draw them old style of play I'm on a buyout offer mean about. More what's coming in without wishing to be disrespectful to Dave handing it out he. Makes a big difference every time he's come in he's been exceptionally well you think of the goals he's got Champions League final the Newcastle goal away which is a big goal the goal against the habits you know and they lost only by one point I don't know how many points his goals got them but he was very very crucial for the goal go in the Champions League final So every time you know people say one of those 3 got injured you know who to play similar to every time I read he's come in Easton exceptionally well so he'll be close and he's got a chance to star in a game here Old Trafford but it is a huge blow as I'm not same. Because of the 1st 3 for me as a as a unit of the best in the world you know we've seen Messi Griezmann and Suarez all score but we can offer for the 1st time yesterday individually as a collective unit the way they had to change to play the front for meno Sila the best so with one of those 3 now and it goes all to massive the I agree with Steve is taking his chance when he's up with. A father of 5 by 5 live Sport Jones says United will put 10 men behind the ball Old Trafford this will be something to behold added He's a Liverpool fan says if we play anywhere approaching our best we will beat these come. Steve says for all l.s.a. Fans expecting a cakewalk all traffic today they speak she just never works out that way Mark my words United will be so you pull up the base and we'll have to be at the top of the table my currently look like where complacency and Phil Neville was talking about United being brave I'm not show lots of people would have predicted a change well you know that comes back to almost the 1st thing we said was that about the Manchester United team there were so many questions about it but I thought I don't think I saw anyone suggest that they would play with 3 central defenders here. Who have seen them do that over the over the course of these 2. You know you must have a plan in mind you must have a plan in mind and I guess he would be probably be preparing for this match with the pack but that would be playing in mind. But. You know you've got. Him in the team has done well in the time that he's played this season so. Using a system that he clearly feels creates best in terms of the players that he has available for this game Speaking of plans and we were going to do a lovely feature on entry on you something on how the number 10 role in football is dead battery on isn't playing and Manchester United are in fact playing with a number 10 in Pereira So we'll have to think on our fate having that player just behind a threat to you Do you think that will help the lots of markets Rochefort. Yeah I think we'll get there ahead of that because of his chair and edgy and his dynamism I think. You know fantastic career. You know listening to Phil Neville before. They have paved the power you know Parada can get the ball in between the lines to get the how to play show passes through to the pace of James and rush in. That could hurt the pool but he's got to get on the ball his goal be brave you know let me say and number 10 number 10 now people can drift out to the left they can drift out to the right he's going to have to be. Help the midfield to a Fred I'm a Coleman a in the way he gets back you know our Shot of time and you'll see we'll see a 541 you're probably if the game's going in different ways but I think John Murray is right when he says that all these picks that season with the players he has others disposed of in the big question is Josie I mean you got criticized at all you know for parking the bus here and it's a big decision all these goals. Are fine and Steve you know as a football fan yourself. United fans except if they go for it and play with it and it j. And they get that on the edge of their states and they lose 3 you go just say for instance but they go away if they sat back and defended and just the old can't retire but they go go go. I mean all the Drew but you know I have fans want to see that attacking players. I don't know what the answer is not to add to the woman. I was you know to Manchester United No I'm just you know if you don't you know is I was speaking to bet these senior people trust me to play as you have played on the families families of those players who followed the team around in the and the late ninety's in the 2000 and they said when they went to a game you knew they were going to win you knew it all you knew they were going to get some you know you knew they'd go to the 95th minute just knew it this team nobody knows what's going to. Mention they going to play Who's going to be fit you know what the outcome is going to be on him that's where you know we don't know what we're going to get and it's Ok to say what it's meant to hold Old Trafford it's Manchester United there's not much it's neither when in truth is not what is in the game it's a good languishing in the ball mob but it's. Able to become an irrelevance in the title race mind you but I think statistically if you're going from pure Dre actually using these people to. Be telling you to see how you can also be. Illegal to want to say don't cry when they return from the tough times. I mean how to. Build a long talk to you know the like to write comics big time but also they still have feelings and all of these views of uncertainty and political if they get themselves in front of you don't try to you don't. Want to join kind of political minefield and don't even if you might you know just what it's like to score a winning goal political scene and all traffic was equal to 10 points on less than from another one Stephen Johnson by Darren Fletcher on the Friday football social and explain exactly what they scan means to players in fans alike. Are saying fair share the fish are out you look forward to being in the hole about a way it's huge it's the biggest game in Britain and one of the biggest games are on the way that it actually feels like part of the build up when I was thinking about this fixture to think about you scoring a goal and I think about you going into the corner testing my camera. Was not a spur of the moment thing is there a story behind it just off and off the coast to be honest obviously the games will be over by the sea. I just remember Shara nominees are again trying to have it but it's become a bit of a wind up the monkey because they obviously give me so much take over the years. It's just it's a one of them up a bit just a bit of parts of the city so it's the gap between the 2 seems as big as he's been for as long as I can remember well we've been on the other side of this are you know you come against up against as much as he and I see him and you you know almost see it go it's all shuffle cause you knew that you were much star there you know that got shot. The point was huge. It was just so our souls challenge to go they are the coins they rolls over you there's a little bit of the much better team much stronger on paper that in the bashful one is a big huge car they are I feel like that much of the United players will be really concerned about this fixture so we were able to get an old in there for a start the game well in school the car was going to go against the March and you know the player there are the chances of a victim screw and really go for them because that's what the use of this was it's a farcical the chances for Liverpool of the local to the real deal but you've got to go to places like this and saying Mark some one point said really how the suit seems the same for Mars this is going to be a 6 of a program of surfing Oh we'll be so for the ball people think. Film a little poll and England midfielder Stephen General welcome back to 5 lives Premier League Sunday with me here Old Trafford John Murray Robbie Savage and we've just been joined in the commentary box as well by a full Manchester United me Phil the Darren Fletcher on the Form a little pull midfield The Danny Murphy often in shops often and so you've got you've both got to say some down what do you keep his or what do you think of him. Montell below remark midweek the we're going to go at 5 so he looks our way which isn't all that surprising really it looks like they're going to try and stop all of our cold but how the gold I'll be interested did he stays abide by that I gauge it went by so did a gauge of going back to sleep on cells 3 feet the 1st really 3 local farmers in my price $3.00 which may be very risky maybe put the emphasis on the players today a lot about Man oh man it will be bad then you're pointed to a gold plated army March going to play a temple with a close. Down Easy Is it negative to play like that or is it just realistic against these mythical tanks while they're going to try something different because they've been all full interview each show I understand why trying something different but do you think that the points down is night very good in terms of the. History channel rugby unless isolated to win by. Gotye too early. And so will be fascinating bowl to me you've got one chain full of confidence and feeling logical in any game and really it's a new way of playing with no confidence and under massive pressure to get would just pick a crowd today show style fanciable whatever tactics and 2 winning goals you scored a free kick set right straight 3 winning goals like that Danny that is. Just police put this guy into context what is it like not just to be involved but 3 times score a winning goal. It always means more doesn't it when you grow up to boy want to change so you understand the rivalry and intensity because when you're a young lad and the old man was a little pull from you you you you taught to despise money united in and hate him in many ways but actually it became a respect because they had the best players in the best team and we used to come here and think you know can we compete with them because they would have passed and we did on many occasions which give you the confidence but for me personally you know this stadium is great for me I. Have been remembered probably just that it goes there than anything else but that's life and actually I look coming in I still look to me as a great atmosphere and it's a chance for someone so they express to be united to become a hero or maybe show you all these jobs if they get they get. Back since it could be big trouble. Thanks Aaron Stephan opportunity for Sunday for to kick start the season or to kick start an individual season you know something like Marcus rush Reginald winning goal today could kickstart everything and you know a lot of pressure on the season he's been given the responsibility in on the attack and all Sanchez maybe negative tactics wrong by gal Marino you know a lot of pressure could turn on the season off the back of that to go and deliver goal and show your Manchester United player going to show you can score 20 goals a season and maybe a winning goal can kickstart United season and kick start his season almost as a goal scoring forward Danny knows exactly what it's like to see. The home fans here what's it like with them behind you in a game like Liverpool us most of you know I mean you quickly realize when you come to the called that this is the biggest game of the season and how much it means to the fans you know Gary Neville is hyperactive for the best of times going to Liverpool game was coming out he was extra He was extra lively major annoyed and poor and it was. The colonel get right behind the team today the crowd been fantastic all season where you know the league of what's been served up in front of their eyes this season the crowds have been turned on the players they haven't been negative they've realized the job that they've tried to support the players for the players have got to realize how fortunate you know I've been. With the crowd have been a lot more you know demand than I expected and because realize that that's not good enough so they'll get right behind the players today it's up to them to respond and they are the underdogs today they're the ones trying to stop Liverpool it's almost as a husband. Do that because Liverpool did it too many times dogs you know they maybe didn't stop as well in the league but you know they stopped does you know they go when they get started they know that but they don't know is a little bit you know and that's what Manchester United got to do today to try and kick start the season speaking of the atmosphere you look ahead to change in the background is the Manchester United goalkeepers of the 1st to come out here and warm up all track of about 14 minutes now away from kick off let me read you a couple of tweets from former Manchester United Liverpool players Andy Cole United Liverpool fixture like no other Luis Garcia one of the one of the biggest guides you can fight always different always difficult moment for Liverpool Rio Ferdinand as a player who comes into the club and isn't like you quickly made aware of what this guy means to you you cannot use Darren Fletcher and what Danny was just saying if only going to lose these they see might have something to worry about do you agree and do you think that would be best. I don't agree because I think the club best week there's a long term plan but probably going to show Sharon you know a lot of stuff going on behind the. I think that's how much. He did save your time and to be honest I don't know I mean it goes I would say no but I think you know you realize is that a lot of building to do this is a team and they need a lot of discord to spoke about get the right players and not just any pleasure these are the messages coming out so. To sacrifice you know we're going to socialize on the pressure when you know it's obviously spoke about the strength of the people above all these conversations have been had everyone knows that it might be a tough season this year and it may take time to realize that it's a building job and I think that's the message is coming out and I think that's probably going to social but it's not nice and things of the summer and quickly he knows that he able to force one thing you just talked about even say he'd walk away if he felt it wasn't money go away and he doesn't feel it and he is the man and he's going to get the time and it's going to kick start today that's my positive spin on it. Well. You never know the day I thought I think of when I think Salazar blow mission Salah I heard that yesterday that he was struggling and it just means the balance of the front political watch to change a little bit whether he puts a review on the Right now pull it probably move money over to the right so we'll see how about works but ultimately you've still got to change. Lost the game which really gave us show to pick won't permit mind you know it's not a little pool comply All right I've got the record in the sights of the win the most protected wins but it's actually a pretty it political with the way the league table in many ways just had the Liverpool fans give a great reception to Alison that he's back in the tainted eye of course after injury and carry on will go back to being the deputy goalkeeper Danny from the midfield is perspective look at the Liverpool mate failed the pain starts now he catteries is back that he's on the bench Brazil were away and in Singapore in the international bright that was a potential decision the club tonight wasn't. Yes but I think I was being brilliant or not. I'm surprised and it's an outrage burger ahead of it and I actually think that 3 is the best theory for making at the moment Ok Chamberlain when he's acting to compete without don't think. He's got a stop start 1st season of every show games these are nothing new owners probably had no expense days in Liverpool you know Larry still a brilliant squad member throughout the press difficult day and I'm glad to see them right one of the tactical things down it's been what it was about Liverpool in the last few weeks is whether or not somebody can exploit the space behind particularly Trent Alexander and when you go to school which could be done you'll James pick a skank Manchester United Yeah but you know you're clutching at straws really trying to look a weakness and lot of progress maybe one area that you know you've exposed a few years ago I remember Marcus Rushford running between the set aback and I think it was well French and I you know it scored a goal but I think from Chance approved of all you know it gives that one back for a lot of a lot of folks give them so much when that attack in space that is an area they can exploit as I said the one who covers the A.B.'s fantastically but. James is patient and Marcus Rochefort space they can exploit small deficiencies and for those not be many but you do have to look for something and I definitely want to be potentially today and I think the more the car they're off it can help them drive them over the line because on the way I feel like a bit go toe to toe and try to play a tactical game and I bet the ball you have about the ball a little forward to strongest and what ultimately I will believe in the match that's it tells you a night Fred doesn't have pledged to win about gaining territories going to get a round of applause down a shot I. Mean I know it goes from no it's not just tell you whether or not they're in a situation now where you know they really could you know struggle to try and get the fans back on charge because the problems it's been it's not losing games it's how you lose guy that's been the problem I don't know just what isn't right and some of us knowledge but it really is. One of much united in my Today's build up to the sky because United stuff to chill stay outside the book simpering you know. You can pluck says I decided she will tell you and went to see the game and his season as well and so far they probably didn't have it but that doesn't mean never get it back so we respect them as the best United and united be can be could face and not the Man United you all speak about doing to week we have to be very very lively we have to be emotional for as much as involved we have to be No one we have to be very clear in a lot of moments and we have to respect that their strengths and that's what we do this is really good for both sides is a really good football team and of I have that in a situation which I don't like so I don't want to change and we have to make sure that they if they want to change it to have to stop or that a week later that. Is the Liverpool manager. With me on Premier League I. Mean he is sort of past decided that John I suppose he has the sight Manchester United will be back he's hot we can say the opposite. It's only sensible to do that but. I mean it's. It's like 12 points behind Liverpool who were champions. When when Liverpool actually won it for the last time the most recent time in 9090 so when may reach little pool reached 18 Manchester United then had been League champions separate times and now little pool is still on 18 and Manchester united around 20 because they've got their own little drives going now Manchester United. Is not the 1st time you've told us be selfish to. Know from it. You know about that you know all the shots of a building no question about a state when sauce of the United were staff from and yes. The positive stuff already you know I disagree with it if you know yeah you know. I think Ali is go along Jefferson here in terms of building you know that. The 1st 29 games for club Pauli thing only going to show she has taken to ballparks for the old games and I think we say that you know be an awful years later you know clubs Liverpool in the Champions League winners $97.00 points this season record breaking records so it can be done and it's all about the recruitment he's just trying. To pull better tissue prevented Alex said 900000000 pounds spent to become an irrelevance in the title a recent pastry tells us. Pressure from outside is important to Manchester United and you know who sold out almost the most recent example of that was when there was such a calamity going to so short that getting the job on a permanent basis back when he was actually appointed back in March so that is one thing I think you have to bear in mind Bush at the same time I do get the impression from the network that they are they are going to try to be. Whatever happens over whatever happens you have to be adaptable to changing situations and try and see things through and try you build you know that everything we're hearing from. Whatever we do hear from the hierarchy at the club so what we're probably going to sell show is that there is a long view to look at here you will probably heard a roar in the background there are actually many fans the still plenty more to come in but it gives you a clue of just how much the Manchester United fans are going to get behind that side this afternoon roses the team came out to warm up in that blue job present wife I don't traffic the Liverpool fans away to my right hand side some of them have got inflatable number 6 is an inflatable European Cups you don't have to be a genius to work that well now let's go back into the Championship jump and so I'm here the t.w. Stadium Wigan Athletic who on noticing them forest New Forest long unbeaten run is over their 1st defeat in the championship since the opening day but sang games Khumalo the much Owen up but Wigan sliding into school from close range in the 1st forest looked rusty they look disjointed as well after 5 changes to that saying they did have 2 strong penalty shouts turned down their manager Southbridge the machine was booked for protesting one of them so forest missed the chance to go joint top on points weakens great home form stave continues 3 consecutive home wins pool consecutive home clean sheets final school we're going to. Voris new look ahead from the whale's head coach Warren Gatland in a 2nd after their World Cup semifinal victory over France 1st let's check in with Andy Murray again Stanislaw as the brink of wrestle full 1st set in the European Open final in and to Frank who's won it by 6 games to 3 and he was the stronger player in that 1st set setting better than Murray he's been a little bit below par on the serve this week you had a right elbow issue at the start of the wake and wasn't able to practice that as much as he would have liked so can marry come from behind he did in the semifinal yesterday he's lost the 1st set to stand up Franco well Wales came from behind in the Rugby World Cup a dramatic light Ross Moriarty try booking them a place in the World Cup semi final 2019 in the end they beat France in 080 and Warren Gatland gave a very honest reaction in the minutes in law students that read titles of the have probably been such a light and we didn't do that so good for him a couple of weeks. Old Trafford a starting to get a laugh. The atmosphere is building here ahead of our commentary game 5 like Premier League Sunday Manchester United against Liverpool we have less than half an hour to kickoff coming out will be hearing from Virgil van Dyke speaking to Steve Powell But 1st we're going to get the news on 5 life with Richard Foster. Home digital b.b.c. Sound smart speaker. Is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live The government says it will push ahead with efforts to pass its Briggs a deal despite a major setback M.P.'s back to motion to delay approval of the deal meaning Boris Johnson had to ask the e.u. For an extension the European Council president Donald Tusk will spend the next few days asking you leaders whether they want to offer a delay Here's the former Conservative leader in Duncan Smith President. Pretty much and they don't want an extension I don't believe you will be in any hurry to grant an extension so we now have to get on the motion. 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Podcasts. This is a full night on 5 Live on Dawson added coming up in this hour the program it's time to open up the phone lines so you can join us for our parenting phone and by the au pair yourself if you're not obviously you've been the child of a parent so you can also join in 080-085-9096 extension 93 asking you questions about how you relate to your children or how your parents related to year. 08085909693 that we're talking this morning about how. Children if you like or younger people talk to adults. You might remember a couple weeks ago we saw this up to a month ago. Created the climate change activist point her finger in Asia kids fashion the United Nations as nice a phrase over and over and over and over again to the adults of the world how did he how did a year have today. Is it Ok for children to totals like that and how they want over 808-590-9693 jet Edmonson's reverse eligible moaning just remind people that Jen is a mother of 3 and year younger is a soap star isn't she John middle on as a whole fake I mean one Kofi has she gone on really well out there filming again that during while she did West which C.B.C.'s summer as wealthy as she's doing well I'm sure all our listeners are proud of the last time when you mentioned you did get some texts and e-mails and you know wishing her good luck like law very sweet about it in the studio with me it got Claire Claire Casi who is a mother of 7 year old she ates now Ted hate by many 18. Yeah yeah of course nearly Trust me I know and is a 3 cause or 9 he did the calculations just the other day she's 8 and 6 months this year and does she have the right to talk to you. Any ways she wants to talk to. This is such a tiny conversation because I've been in power in her to express herself and we have an honesty is the best policy err rule in our home even if I don't like what I love and what you are about to tell me but I love you anyway however we get into the stage where this hate slash 18 year old is beginning to express herself quite assertively hold me to account point point out my contradictions and is again quite comfortable a comfortable I mean I'm comfortable and I'm shutting it down and I'm going against everything that I've been teaching her for the last 8 years but I'm trying to make sure that she understands that she can't speak to any adult that way and also. Yeah it's hard. Because any other adult doesn't know where she's coming from doesn't understand her point of view doesn't understand that she's been raised in a household where she's been supported to speak her mind and also in certain environments like school for example have in an 8 year old challenge the teacher and the way that my daughter challenges me is not appropriate because the teacher has to manage 29 other children so this is not appropriate you might want to give some advice because you've been through this already Yes 3 times yes tell me again please. Mind that they are again they're free to challenge they're free to question anything they like but the way they do it is key so they can't just barge in and be rude about our everything and say whatever they like. They won't get anywhere with any even the pay is won't appreciate rudeness and barging in everything else however if you put your point of view across in a calm managed way people are more likely to listen to you I think certainly when you're a child and you're dealing with teaches perhaps people that run a club. If you don't like it or you have if you want to question it certainly put your hand up and say Excuse me can I ask about this. You know of took them to turn around and not say no I'm not doing this you're wrong blah blah because immediately you just stop being listened to I think I have any serious or were right for them you know I think the issue for me is timing is Michael says very well man it is just the time in of head to live or is always on point but always the most painful times to do it all the most embarrassing times to do it just in an inappropriate time to do it not because we're anyway just. It's at the point where I'm working against a deadline and we need to be somewhere when she wants to slow it down by having this conversation with me that I'm not ready to have because we're going to get out the door yeah I think I think that's deliberate I think kids do that to deliberately they want to test your reaction to it how she reacted by bringing this up now or it's a delaying tactic had distract you because I don't want to do this. And then they they learn by watching your reaction to it so if you say to them now is not appropriate time now learn from that you know put it do you thing aggression and rudeness. Generally isn't Do your children the have the right to to see you as they please no but I don't think any adult has the right to it or any other adult how they please either I think the. Social convention would suggest the barging your way in like a bull in a china shop wherever you are is not going to go down well I mean I was awful to my parents when I was a teenager I said things that I look back on and I'm shocked up myself. For but I can't say it got me in my own way or got me to listen to or anything like that I think it's the same without all relationships if you've got an issue or problem you not going to solve it by screaming at the other person see the My thing is I don't think it's about the scream in pes I think some children are just smarter to that and my daughter is passive is the passive assertiveness that is the problem it's not the being loud it's not being. Overly rude or abrupt it's say in her mind same catchphrases say in what she sees and she will remind me of things that I've told her and now I'm not doing what I've told her and that's not fair is it mommy and it's like oh yes you are right but not now not now you're not right now and I don't know why you're not right now but you know right now because I'm not ready to receive what you're saying to me and it's difficult because I was raised in a time where you know children were seen and not heard respect your elders you speak to a priest a certain way you speak to teach a certain way speak to your friends a certain way and you learn the art of kind of negotiating how to communicate in different environments and at different times now I think all of that learning has made me go right Ok this is the best way to raise my daughter she must always express a point of view she must always hold true to have values her integrity and challenge when necessary so that she can you know stand her ground in a sense. But that is coming with some repercussions. I kind of I'm liking this that a I just think you're absolutely right she should my kids have pulled me up on things and called me a hypocrite and said she had a you've said this and now you're doing that and and actually they are right and it is uncomfortable but it holds us to the same standards that we expect of them and I think. I think we have to explain for those listeners who chaining into this branch of voting for the 1st time that when Claire was talking about how you speak to priest and everything it's not because she's about to become a nun get thee to a nunnery but because you went to Catholic school do you get Catholic convent school so that you wouldn't know it. And I mean do you definitely know it. But what about Ok you said Claire that. You can't you're both of you said the children don't have no Jenny's more forthrightly said children don't have the right to speak her children don't have the right to speak to her any way they want to and generally even adults don't have the rights as we do other adults anyway they want to might have to come back to that when they try but you were saying the care that your position is your daughter might find that she has reached you one way which can't be to any other out of they won't know where she's coming from yes there is what about when children speak in the way the greeter to imbed and she is still a child of the age of 16 despite. Being one of the leading contenders for the Nobel Peace Prize Well what about when she points the finger at adults current if you like and says How dare you have no dare you does she or any other young person taking issue with the world they live in have the right to talk to adults as they wish clear see. Gasser has a role to play right she is in a purposeful position therefore her perfect form allows for her to express herself in a way that other children may not be able to express themselves and I think children understand that when you give in a stage in a sense you perform it's funny because just last week my daughter came home and she was repeated in the exact speech and I said Did you hear that and she said oh we watched it in school news be a full. Year old to miss the news anyway Ok. But it was she was almost mark in and imitated in the presentation and I could I found it quite funny. But I kind of I didn't I didn't even look at the delivery but I wanted to understand what she understood from the message so I kind of glossed over that but now thinking about him. What impression did she have not as she says maybe subtly think she could possibly do that given you know the right situation I don't know I have to add not sure I think I am and I watched that speech and I thought that she she like you said she had a platform and she used it to huge effect precisely because of her delivery. And certainly Madeleine has watched it and I don't think she would take from that she could speak to another. Person or 30 that way and get away with it and I don't think I have the right to say of the road was wrong with troubled saying how do you because we say it's about. It it's his well we'll have. The broadest right to speak as we wish in this country certainly in the Western world in general. If you're talking about whether she was right to do it in. Context on that platform it was incredibly effective and she needed that she needed them to be shocked she needed the adults to be shocked at her we know why she did it and wondered where that whether I think that children in general would take from that whether they should whether they should be allowed to speak that way in general to adults I think they would quickly find that it wasn't that effective I think they would very quickly find it wasn't a good method and if they were. Allowed to get away with there I think they would grow into incredibly rude and bullish adults although we wouldn't think that of an adults would we saying that to a child is a completely different perception certainly if you go to the supermarket where I live where you sometimes hear a mother saying to Joe and it generally is very be a mother because there are less men on a Saturday when I do much of anything. Had them say how do you speak to me in that way to their child and we don't necessarily think that they are miscreants or delinquents as parents when they would you drive around it I've done it wants to my daughter. Because she. She gets taken her everywhere with her various activities and generally we accommodate whatever she needs. And then she had the cheek one day to chair around me and say that everything revolved around her younger brother and I was furious and I but at that and I'm very very rarely cross with their kids she's very rarely on great verbal we can I raise p. Mummy and I was absolutely furious with her and I did say how do day you say that the whole world revolves around him when it's the other way around. Actually because it was something that I had never said before because I very rarely my temper with a she really paid attention and she's never done it since. Do I think it's Ok for not don't say it to a child yet probably I think children can be grateful and they can push the boundaries then and I think as long as you're not using it every 5 minutes yeah I stand by what I said to her anyway since I couldn't believe that she had dad to say that to me with a straight face one of our listeners sends a text on 8558 or e-mail up all night b.b.c. Doc give us a call 885-909-6932 join in this conversation this morning from parenting phone in look the essential question is whether children are allowed or have the right to stand up to adults whether verbal the whether verbal or in terms of protest and will come on to that in a moment or 2 because as you know as you know since we last had this parenting phone and we've had get it through this climate change activist 60 year old from Sweden stand up for the United Nations and world holds adults in general to task and blame adults the current problems in the world but the language she used in the way she did it was in this accusative way. How dare you I don't know about you but many of us adults Well it didn't make us feel comfortable since we when you become adults you leave those childish things behind and you certainly don't get taught as a child anymore however however great who is the child in this relationship was talking to us adults in that way and some of us got the hump let's be fair I'm damned I'm leaving myself how this conversation if you don't why I want your point of view doesn't. I have no point of view I believe you see present as you know thank you for I like you that thank you for that Claire. If it's a tricky. 590-9693 this text from my list them he says I'm listening to your show about the way children talk to adults I'm a Girl Guide Leader and I'm about to resign due to the attitude of children Wow. We bring up odd children in care was saying earlier we bring about children to stand up for themselves but depending on how they use that. Privilege if you like to stand up for themselves in the face of other adults. Might come out as being insubordination does it mean yeah. I think it can but again I think it's in the delivery I really do I think that actually children I think anybody has the right to question someone else if they don't agree to ask why they think the way they do or why they're doing something else or why they're doing that certain thing or why they're acting in a certain way and I think it is right that we teach our children to question things to ask these questions to think critically about things and to say something if they don't think something's right or they don't sing think something something's fair I do you think the I lost of children have got away with being incredibly rude I've seen children being credibly read I've had I've been shepherding and I've had children being credibly rude to May and make personal remarks and. Speaks to me in a way that shocked me and I have pulled them on it and very quickly they fall back in line because they realize they won't get anywhere with me but they can ask me anything they like I think you know I think we do have to teach our children how to ask questions and how to think about things and but you they can't just stand up and scream at you or be read to you about it because basically you're just going to stop them or if they do get away with it they're going to grow up to be really the same but more aggressive as adults see the thing that I'm also trying to teach Parental to is a about you know picking her battles and I think this comes down to personal relationships and what I want her to learn very quickly is that not everyone is worth your time or expressing a point of view not everyone needs to understand where you're coming from or your reason it not everyone deserves that type of engagement that time to really explore and think together and come to you know a shared vision. There are things that are just functional toss activities you know very short time time limits on them and there are experiences or relationships that are going to go forward a lot longer and I think that's where it's more important I guess to to get that shared understanding Frew the question in but if you're. Go into you know residential schools mean if you're going on a residential for 3 weeks and you're with other children and the whole idea is you're going to learn team building skills and communication skills and have the east funny you know challenging experience is going to push you out of your comfort zone that's not the time the place to be question why do I have to do this but you don't miss your look in the water it's free it's just not appropriate in that 3 we're going to waste the 3 weeks for this conversation has been very middle class middle class has been missing then we have very middle class even the anecdotes of sharing. But I'm leaving myself out of this because p.v.c. Presents as you know tickles me. But it's been very middle class so nice letting us know what you mean by middle class well I'll explain myself by taking it to the street you know what I mean I know exactly what you mean you sure you know I absolutely know each other absolutely good because what do you do there and what do you do when your child remember you tell your child to stand up for themselves or Yes yes tell me to stand up for themselves yeah yeah Stan of his oh so when the child that I am most a teacher pick your battles you pick your bowels domo this is a big big Basle it's a battle for the planet the we're talking about and we're going out on the streets to protest to protest more in a polite way Jan No in the polite way that you said do you know be careful how you say things or what you say but how you say thing in the middle class way that we've been doing but we're going out to protest. For the cause of saving the planet would you vend say to your daughter well I've taught my daughter and I continue to teach her that there are consequences to everything and some are good and some are bad and so in that situation yes stand up for yourself or stand up for your rights stand up for your beliefs however understands the knock on effects of you potentially having a criminal record you love to travel is that going to stop you from going to say in countries that you like to visit be mindful that it's not you can live in the moment which is what we want everyone to be more mindful and experience the here and now however recognize that you have a long life touchwood ahead of you and what you do now could potentially affect how you can function so what you basically said your daughters don't go no I'm not I'm saying No I'm saying it's your choice it's not a choice but to recognize that there are implications for every decision that you make but you're telling her basically if you go protests you might end up with a criminal record that's a negative statement is it's not a protest because you might save the planet you're saying protos but you might end up with a criminal record I'm just saying that you know in terms of you suggest in the aggressiveness the hostility the you know the heavy foot you know campaign in that's fine that's fine however there will be consequences and so long as you know what they are it's all about making informed decisions whatever decision you make is your choice you know that and I think that that is entirely up to my daughter but I want her in every step of life to make informed decisions no disrespect I'm going to turn to Jen who may have had experience with this already I wonder have you when a child come up to you and is going on a protest would you say it came up. It did not Lynn initially want to go but she has missed a lot of school so we said no how has it been since number and greeted timbers with a lot of schools for different reasons that I tell you what I think about this teenage protest and the school strikes I think if the end result is that people pay more attention and that things change and we perhaps end up with a healthy a planet than great if it comes to teenagers dictating what we should do I think that needs to be more caution if that opens discussion fantastic if people take it seriously and then do something about it fantastic but if they if we let adults are deciding the rules I think the or or what we're about to do I think we're in danger of figure out saying that they don't have the life experiences and they don't have as much ability to get the wider consequences that adults might So I think as a tool to open discussion it's fantastic but passions run very high and I think we're in danger of letting teenagers dictate what must be and there I'm a little bit cautious yes we want some advice from any parents out there Brule so any adults who obviously with children of one point or other how did your parents then react to you 1st of all talking to them in any way they wanted and how would they reacted if you suggested that you would go on a protest 080-859-0969 extension 3 call he very kindly tells us he's very nearly 50. 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I don't know about you but I never heard that from a child before child Saints adults how did a year. But what's wrong with that. 808-080-8590 extension 9693 you can text as an 85 or 5 and or e-mail up for night at b.b.c. Talk of the u.k. You can tweet b.b.c. 5 live as well and the broader question of protest. The broader question of protest climate change protest obviously is the order of the day and the protesters get younger and younger and younger and younger and younger. Well if children can talk to adults in any way they like including their parents their work their parents do to even stop them going on protests or to the voices of not to go to protests or did to read in the Rye attitudes of him as as would go a daughter Ok you can go on the protests but there are consequences you might end up with a criminal record. Navigator Have you had that conversation is of any such conversation to listeners So what should we say when when calls says and calls nearly 50 or less of a guy calls says who is a child who's an adult it's not as obvious as just saying if you're over 16 or 18 is it Gen. No I don't think it is click that. In general yes you'd like to think that by a teen people all grown up enough to belong in the adult world space but doesn't always work like that and when you younger. Passions run very high and then no way. The no always coupled with. Experience and sure yeah and I and sometimes not even logical I think that occasionally Well I think that children do you have points to say and things to say and things there's Joe right and correct but at the end of the day it. I think what I think where I draw the line is decision making so. Yes. You know on a $1.00 to $1.00 level I would expect a bit of politeness on a protest level yes stand up and say what you've got to say but it's not you that's going to make the rules here it's not easy. Change anything and you can make us listen old you can and hopefully open a discussion and mysterious one between adults who can make these decisions see children protest from very early on and I think has been so you know quietly protest in in the home for about 3 years and you haven't stopped or it started started with recycling in so I would say you know discard a bit you know post it no and she'd say Mummy wrong been. You know and I've now got into a habit of recycling really really well because of hair and so you know that question about his the child and he added I don't really know what it means because as far as I'm concerned my daughter has probably been my biggest teacher in many ways. All the skills that I had had you know set of missed confidence and I feel that they have been magnified because of her I am deaf I would definitely stand my ground way more from standing up for her. In a way that maybe I would not have done so so aggressively if it was just you know defending my own right before she came along I did and that's just in a change I've noticed myself but here's the child news the as my mom will in her seventy's I'm in my thirty's will always remind me that I am still the child even when I'm trying to. Teach her new ways she takes on board in dribs and drabs but I think as parents sometimes we're always a little bit resistant sometimes to that his lesson learned or you know his lesson that I just get on board my can reading reminds us that David Cameron for prime minister of those. David Cameron once said something who've had a few prime ministers since. Clarify if you were listening to the country that long or otherwise every David Cameron once said suddenly the offer rings true says Mark in reading he said to offer we as in society treat children as adults and we treat. Children So you see it's not so clear. In the home quite apart from society. Part quote apart from society what's it like when that relationship is turned on its head clear that you treat your daughter who is 8 years old like an adult Donya. In some ways but not in all ways so I treat you like a child mummy that's wrong been put in there I don't see that as her treating me like a child I see have to talk to her No I think that's her reminded me of the things that you know I should be doing that would help a few basic but she's not your friend is she she's your daughter I don't need that information necessarily for my friend my daughter isn't within her rights to remind me to recycle know she's within her rights to get the piece of paper that you put the wrong b. To pluck it out and put it in the right bin that's what my father would have said before we even said you can't just old school and case a school or school that thing about you know. Talking to adults like children while you're age does not determine what wisdom I've definitely learnt that you should talk to children as children. Or you mean older children and taught Ok So from a very early age it's really interesting and I never did that Guga nonsense of my daughter I spoke to her from an f. When I was breastfeeding my don't bite that hurts and I spoke to her like I would speak to an adult. And I think that by you mind her the riot act is still a baby do you know what I mean you taught her baby appropriately she's a baby you talk to an adolescent appropriate. Talk to a teen age appropriate sitter but never ever talk to them as an arrow because in an adult I think you've got to talk to individuals and give them you know that due respect to you need to you know ascertain what type of communication style is best for the person that you are talking to and what ability what's their comprehension level I think you need to take this thing. Into account do we do we need to take those things into account all just training children children the children that yes they are. Driven surely but don't think just because their children than necessarily need the riot act reading to them every time they do something are every time the question something I think you have to speak to them. On a level which they can understand so when they're 3 years old and you've put your fire on because it's winter and you say don't touch it's hot and you have to be quite firm about it because it's hard and it will hurt and that's what you have to say Surely when they're older you can say well you don't want to burn yourself you know just be Catherine it's you your language changes as they grow a new manager changes as they grow and then it regresses somewhat when they're teenagers and then and then they come back again. And I do think that there is a huge difference between. Claire's daughter saying oh that's the wrong bed and Claire letting her. Daughter be the adult of the house I think that's that's quite a leap from one. One position to the other just because her daughter might remind her something that she's supposed to be doing now and again because we all remind each other of things and occasionally my kids are my me to do something I have genuinely forgotten and I and save the day yeah of course you know. I've had don't think allowing them to speak or question is them being the adult I think that occasionally well or more than occasionally you do see children that bust their parents around. But those are the children that seem to have no discipline they are very rude to people but they're the children they're going to influence your children to start calling you by your 1st name or whatever and then are the only influence my children haven't actually that they would not say to a child like that I don't think I think that they would say they're so really. Happy you know did you see Madeline's done it my youngest has done it as well did you hear how they spoke to their parents you'd never let me speak like that you let them call you by over his name. No no but it's not come up. See I used to mess around a lot with my mom and call her by her 1st name Err yes I did I don't know do you now. Your mom's yet very very strict and actually can also still move I don't know I mean again it's the way you talk to your parents so my mom knows when I call it by her 1st name I'm telling the police I'm like come on now Come on woman you know. Leave me a little you know that kind of thing but. You can see the look of yes I think it's very rare in our community because my sisters. And I we all we all call our own you know not all of the time but we definitely address them by their name 1st names when. I mean they know our past manatees Doughton you know my dad raised you know with my mom free gals my mom's very matriarchal it's alright it's alright so I would never allow anyone else to spite their face. Called my father's older brother threw me out of his house had nowhere else to go when our 1st words Nigeria the age of 71st time since I'd left I had nowhere else to go literally threw me out my hat is out into the wilderness because I called him Uncle because that's his 1st name caller it was he's late now and he was concerned because he's my father's of the brother I'm not allowed to call him by his 1st I'm not even allowed to know what his 1st name is shrouded in mystery you see or the pretense of mystery so I should call him as the father of is eldest child so I should really call him Pat Power Food me live your was the right way to now. Cool uncle. But the cool my father but he's not a I'd literally Globes micht gobsmacked but I wouldn't I wouldn't do that in front of. The know what my 1st name me how do you know. But. I am also trying to. Set some cultural interest practices that I don't think a helpful in this day and age so the way I was raised to call everyone until Uncle every one on t. And uncle until Uncle to me comes with a title comes with a sentimental respect I don't want my daughter calling everyone to an uncle not everyone in our community is had cousin and now I am it's it's that's a tricky one it is a tricky one but I definitely think it's something that I have to do with have. To have to allow them to call the Ok. Marco in Heathrow's says. Child isn't the right word to use for someone of 16 pushing on 17 it's entirely different gear saying how dare you to adults in a political speech from a chair old rudely saying it. I still don't get why because if the demarcation is I agree there's a gap between a and 16 but we're still calling them children in the eyes of society if it's Ok for an 8 year old or 16 year old to say how dare you to an adult wasn't Ok for an 8 year old I don't think it is Ok in a $1.00 to $1.00 or every day situation I think the point about ag Russia Sumburgh is she had got a platform to speak to some incredibly powerful and influential people and she was going to use that to full effect and she's a very very passionate very single minded young woman and I think that she probably knew she would shock people she probably knew it would get people talking because it is. Unusual and I think that she wanted the exposure for it I'm not saying he wanted to show I'm not sure it's unusual Sweden by the way that thought hold that thought Bryan Indaba she wants to join in the conversation Brian good morning good morning doesn't how you very well and thank you for joining in the conversation even Zao the gender balance somewhat but thank you for supporting me and been a mile behind me backing me up on everything I've said so far or maybe not. Well both we yes because a single The difference is one of responsibility on my perspective is that of a professional educator I went to school society yes. And because an educator has responsibility for a child you know that's where the phrase in local Prentiss comes from vessel you can measure they strictly speaking an equal because your responsibility for that child is the appropriate adult is absolute whereas I have no responsibility for years whatsoever. Now in my opinion Bessel childhood is to be enjoyed on the basis that kids should enjoy their childhood precisely because they don't have that responsibility but to give a child an alleged child the impression as some parents. Already called 2 adults and that they should speak to pressure adults dealing with them as if they are an equal that is where the problems lie in my opinion so broadly speaking yes and I'm backing your your stance which is that adults in order to accept their responsibilities should ask children to remember that they don't the same as but a lesser responsibility that we have to see Brian I really admire and it's really refreshing to hear you know an educator say that children should enjoy the childhood you know without responsibility innocence however for many children many many children they do have a lot of responsibility I use at 9 years old go to the bank for my mom and do her banking and that was me back then there are many children who are you know translators for their parents you know I've definitely met parents who couldn't speak English and that child is the moderator there are children who a care in for parents and caring for youngest siblings and have you know I had to make sure that you know might buy things that had dinner before my parents got home and I was maybe 1213 so. I guess there was a lot of discipline in my home but I think in this day in a different child had the amount of responsibility that I had I'm sure that they would be way more outspoken the night with. On how we met and worked with some of the kind of children you describe and I can only speak to my own experience but my experience is that children who are in the situation when you work at them in schools are often the most respectful to adults the most deferential it's it's often kids who don't have that kind of experience but have been told at home I will stand up for your rights. And that it's often those. Students that cause the problems because they have no idea of where the boundaries are that 12 and they think they're Superman and. In my experience I can speak to my experience and I have worked in London I was in on for 30 years I worked in some of the most deprived areas of London and some of the toughest schools in London and my experience tells me that the students who were causing issues with the stuff were not the kind of kid you described they were the ones who were quite serious who took their education seriously who would you know just be fine with my experiences that the students who were sort of causing the issues the students who didn't know where the boundaries were were often those who were sort of spoiled cosseted given every saying. And told every day what this so-called rights were but nobody had ever told them actually which highlights come responsibilities so you ended up with a minority of students and I stress it's a minority who need all their rights but refused to take any responsibility even any responsibility for their own behavior and and unfortunately there is now an epidemic of this and it's because we've given a generation of children the impression that I have the same rights as adults without any any responsibilities and we are currently reaping the bad effects of that and I've seen this in schools myself I think you really introduce a point of clarity into the conversation how do we go a couple questions for the farmer and an agenda if your question is Who brought to bear with me how do we 1st or who. Responsibility that where it's absent. Right well if you mean responsibility such as behavior no no no I was saying I don't know how do you mean still really you talked about children knowing their rights but having no sense of responsibility comes of rights and you gave the analogy or the comparison with children who may have responsibilities of being a carer or otherwise I just wonder without forcing or what without trying to solve it in him put responsibility where there is none already but is there a way that we can give children a sense of responsibility so the when they go to school they're not the ones that badly behaved but the they want to learn and don't take school for granted and so on and in parenting is there any kind of responsibility that children we should be imparting to children that we're not in the moment. The kind of responsibility that colleague was was talking about of course is something that as she rightly says children do end up taking responsibilities on. You know that we would not wish them to have exactly what I think I think voters are a minority of cases I think that the borderline between rights and responsibilities is something that's become blurred and it's the result of a generation of parenting by people who in some cases are reluctant to acknowledge that they are adults themselves so the kind of students that I think have problems in school sometimes students who've been given the impression that their parents are not their parents that their parents are somehow some kind of you know friend who's a bit older or something and if that's the parenting style I can tell you that that kid then has enormous problems adjusting to the fact that someone else has the right sometimes within reason to tell them what to do about the very concept is a real problem to some children because of the way that they've been raised that straight I remember my mom I'm not that means that the real world when it comes will hit the market on the bricks because in education if you're not allowed if you don't have the will 30 to question that mentality and you have to just contain it which is what educators now have today. Then you know I've had occasion to say to Strickland's Well look I'm paid to tolerate your rudeness but I am telling you but if you said what you've just said to me to somebody on the street they would want you on well you're not paid to tolerate nobody's rudeness and so far as what I said Well as I said to them I said that to them as a tactic to try to make them think in other words my my lying to them was well I thought I accepted his job so. You know yes you've just been extremely rude to me I can alter as a fashion educator let you know. On a street level just to reduce pain because of course I wouldn't want to do that and I get fired. Jenny wants to come in on the night recruit but my line was that I'm telling you I mean forming you for your benefit in fear information that he says you behave that way to somebody you didn't know on the street there are parts of the city where you would reap the consequences for that and I don't want you to come to harm therefore I'm telling you what you've just done and also that is incredibly rare and you need to know that you know I say that out of a desire to be helpful that are going to March out of line to the other if you know what I was great and then hold on I'll get your thoughts in a moment or 2 very quickly Brian if your students came soon said we're going on a climate change process we're taking responsibility for the planet would you say yes or no would you support them and. Ethically yes I would absolutely and there's a distinction between. The 25 percent of. Playing. This c.d.c. Radio 5 Live Through called Good morning this is a. 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This was no fluke to date so really deserved it and joining me Brice for a round up of everything going on in the world of football in the schools however given the very thick I'm pretty sure that even touch of download the free b.b.c. Sounds out to music radio and podcasts. This is a fortnight on 5 live on. Coming up in this hour of the programme it's time to open up the phone line so you can join news for our parenting phone and read your Perry yourself if you're not obviously you've been the child of a parent so you can also join in 808-590-9693 asking you questions about how you relate to your children or how your parents related to you. 085909693 We're talking this morning about how. Children if you like call younger people talk to adults. You may remember a couple weeks ago we saw this up to a month ago because. The Trying to change activist point her finger. Jackie's fashion in the United Nations is a loser phrase over and over and over and over again to the adults of the world how did you hear how the day you have a day. Is it Ok for children to totals like that and how they want over 808-590-9693 jet Edmonson's reversal agent moaning just remind people that Jen is a mother of 3 and year younger just is a soap star isn't she John middle one I was at home of a young women who want coffee as she get really were out there filming again that during while she did with which the c.b.c. Summers wealth is yes she's doing well I'm sure all our listeners are proud of her the last time when you mentioned you did get some texts and e-mails and wishing her good luck like La very sweet about it in the studio with me got Claire Claire classy who is a mother of 7 year old issue 8 now to late about maybe 18 but yeah of course now trust me I know and 8 and 3 quarter 9 he did the calculations just the other day she's 8 and 6 months to say yeah and does she have the right to talk to you. Any way she wants to talk to. This is such a tiny conversation because I've been in power in her to express herself and we have an honesty is the best policy err rule in our home even if I don't like what I love and what you're about to tell me but I love you anyway however we get into the stage where this hate slash 18 year old is beginning to express herself quite assertively hold me to account point point out my contradictions and is again quite comfortable a comfortable I mean I'm comfortable and I'm shutting it down and I'm going against everything that I've been teaching her for the last 8 years but I'm trying to make sure that she understands that she can't speak to any adult that way and also. Yeah it's hard. Because any other adult doesn't know where she's coming from doesn't understand her point of view doesn't understand that she's been raised in a household where she's been supported to speak her mind and also in certain environments like school for example have in an 8 year old challenge the teacher and the way that my daughter challenges me is not appropriate because the teacher has to manage 29 other children so this is not appropriate you might want to give some advice because you've been through this already Yes 3 times yes tell me again please. Mind that they are again they're free to challenge they're free to question anything they like but the way they do it. So they can't just barge in and be rude to our everything and say whatever they like. They won't get anywhere with any even the pay is won't appreciate rudeness and barging in everything else however if you put your point of view across in a calm managed way people are more likely to listen to you I think certainly when you're a child and you're dealing with teaches perhaps people that run a club. If you don't like it or you have if you want to question it certainly put your hand up and say Excuse me can I ask about this. You know of took them to turn around and not say no I'm not doing this you're wrong blah blah because immediately you just stop being listened to I think I have any serious or were right for them you know I think the issue for me is timing is Michael says Very well ma'am it is just the time in of head to live or is always on point always the most painful times to do ill the most embarrassing times to do it just in an inappropriate time to do it not because we're anyway just it's at the point where I'm working against a deadline and we need to be somewhere when she wants to slow it down by having this conversation with me that I'm not ready to have because we're going to get out the door yeah I think I think that's deliberate I think kids do that to deliberately they want to test your reaction to it how she reacted by bringing this up now or it's a delaying tactic had a strategy because I don't want to do this. And then they they learn by watching your reaction to it so if you say to them now is not appropriate time now learn from the you know put it do you thing aggression and rudeness. Generally isn't Do your children the have the right to to see you as they please no but I don't think any adult has the right to it or any other adult how they please either I think the. Social convention would suggest the barging your way in like a bull in a china shop wherever you are is not going to go down well I mean I was awful to my parents when I was a teenager I said things that I look back on and I'm shocked up myself. For but I can't say it got me in my own way or got me to listen to or anything like that I think it's the same without all relationships if you've got an issue or problem you not going to solve it by screaming at the other person see the My thing is I don't think it's about the screamin per se I think some children are just smarter to that and my daughter is passive is the passive assertiveness that is the problem it's not the being loud it's not being. Overly rude or abrupt it's say in her mind same catchphrases say in what she sees she will remind me of things that I've told her and now I'm not doing what I've told her and that's not fair is it mommy and it's like oh yes you are right but not now not now you're not right now and I don't know why you're not right now but you know right now because I'm not ready to receive what you're saying to me and it's difficult because I was raised in a time where you know children were seen and not heard respect your elders you speak to a priest a certain way you speak to a teacher certain ways be to your friends a certain way and you learn the art of kind of negotiating how to communicate in different environments and at different times now I think all of that learning has made me go right Ok this is the best way to raise my daughter she must always express a point of view she must always hold true to have values her integrity and challenge when necessary so that she can you know stand her ground in a sense. But that is coming loose my repercussions. I kind of I'm liking this that day I just think you're absolutely right she should my kids have pulled me up on things and called me a hypocrite and said she had a you've said this and now you're doing that and and actually they are right and it is uncomfortable but it holds us to the same standards that we expect of them and I think it's fair I think we have to explain for those listeners who chaining into this branch of voting for the 1st time that when Claire was talking about how you speak to priest and everything it's not because she's about to become a nun get thee to a nunnery but because you went to a Catholic girls' school do yet Catholic convent school so that you wouldn't know that. I mean he definitely didn't know it. But what about Ok you said Claire that. You can't you are well both of you said the children don't have no Jenny's more forthrightly said children don't have the right to speak her children don't have the right to speak to her any way they want to and generally even adults don't have the rights as we do other adults anyway they wanted might have to come back to that when they tried but you were saying the care that your position is that your daughter might find that she has reached you one way which can't be to any other out of there won't know where she's coming from yes as a response what about when children speak in the way the greeter to imbed and she is still a child of the age of 16 despite. Being one of the leading contenders for the Nobel Peace Prize Well what about when she points the finger at adults current if you like and says How dare you have no dare you does she or any other young person taking issue with the world they live in have the right to talk to adults as they wish Clare see. Gasser has a role to play right she is in a purposeful position therefore her perfect form allows for her to express herself in a way that other children may not be able to express themselves and I think children understand that when you give in a stage in a sense you perform it's funny because just last week my daughter came home and she was repeated in the exact speech and I said Did you hear that and she said oh we watched it in school news be a full. Year old to miss the news anyway Ok. But it was she was almost mark in and imitated in the presentation and I could I found it quite funny. But I kind of I didn't I didn't even look at the delivery but I wanted to understand what she understood from the message so I kind of glossed over that but now thinking about him. What impression did she have not as she says maybe subtly think she could possibly do that given you know the right situation I don't know I have to add not sure I think I am and I watched that speech and I thought that she she like you said she had a platform and she used it to huge effect precisely because of her delivery. And certainly Madeleine has watched it and I don't think she would take from that she could speak to another. Person or 30 that way and get away with it and I don't think I have the right to say of the road was wrong with a troubled saying how do you because we say it's about. It it's his well we'll have. The broadest right to speak as we wish in this country certainly in the Western world in general. If you're talking about whether she was right to do it in. Context on that platform it was incredibly effective and she needed that she needed them to be shocked she needed the adults to be shocked at her we know why she did it and wondered where that whether I think that children in general would take from that whether they should whether they should be allowed to speak that way in general to adults I think they would quickly find that it wasn't that effective I think they would very quickly find it wasn't a good method and if they were. Allowed to get away with there I think they would grow into incredibly rude and bullish adults although we wouldn't think that of an adults would we saying that to a child is a completely different perception certainly if you go to the supermarket where I live where you sometimes hear a mother saying to Joe and it generally is very be a mother because there are less men on a Saturday when I do much of anything. Have them say how do you speak to me in that way to their child and we don't necessarily think that they are miscreants or delinquents as parents when they presented you to have run it I've done it wants to my daughter. Because she. She gets taken her everywhere with her various activities and generally we accommodate whatever she needs. And then she had the cheek one day to chair around me and say that everything revolved around her younger brother and I was furious but at that and I'm very very rarely cross with their kids she's very rarely I'm great for we cannot I raise p. Mummy and I was absolutely furious with her and I did say how do day you say that the whole world revolves around him when it's the other way around. Actually because it was something that I had never said before because I very rarely my temper with a she really paid attention and she's never done it since. Do I think it's Ok for not don't say it to a child yet probably I think children can be grateful and they can push the boundaries then and I think as long as you're not using it every 5 minutes yeah I stand by what I said to her anyway since I couldn't believe that she had dad to say that to me with a straight face one of our listeners sends a text on 8558 or e-mail up all night b.b.c. Doc give us a call 885-909-6932 join in this conversation this morning from parenting phone and look the essential question is whether children are allowed or have the right to stand up to adults whether verbal the whether verbal or in terms of protest and will come on to that in a moment or 2 because as you know as you know since we last had this parenting phone and we've had get it through this climate change activist 60 year old from Sweden stand up for the United Nations and world holds adults in general to task and blame adults the current problems in the world but the language she used in the way she did it was in this accusative way out how dare you I don't know about you but many of us adults Well it didn't make us feel comfortable since we when you become adults you leave those childish things behind and you certainly don't get taught as a child anymore however however great who is the child in this relationship was talking to us adults in that way and some of us got the hump let's be fair I'm damned I'm leaving myself how this conversation if you don't why I want your point of view Datsun. I have no point of view I believe you see present as you know thank you for I like you that thank you for that Claire. If she says a tricky. 590-9693 this text from my list he says I'm listening to your show about the way children talk to adults I'm a Girl Guide Leader and I'm about to resign due to the attitude of children Wow You see we bring up our children in care was saying earlier we bring up our children to stand up for themselves but depending on how they use that. Privilege if you like to stand up for themselves in the face of other adults. Might come out as being in subordination does that mean so yeah I I think it can but again I think it's in the delivery I really do I think that actually children. I think anybody has the right to question someone else if they don't agree to ask why they think the way they do or why they're doing something else or why they're doing that certain thing or why they're acting in a certain way and I think it is right that we teach our children to question things to ask these questions to think critically about things and sed and say something if they don't think something's right or they don't that same thing something something's fair and I do you think the it's a loss of children have got away with being incredibly rude I've seen children being credibly rude I've had I've been shepherding and I've had children being credibly rude to May and make personal remarks and speak to me in a way that shocked me and I have pulled them on it and very quickly they fall back in line because they realise they won't get anywhere with me but they can ask me anything they like I think you know I think we do have to teach our children how to ask questions and how to think about things and but you they can't just stand up and scream at you will be reach you about it because. Basically we're just going to stop them or if they do get away with it they're going to grow up to be really the same but more aggressive as adults see the thing that I'm also trying to teach Parental to is about you know picking her battles and I think this comes down to personal relationships and what I want her to learn very quickly is that not everyone is worth your time or expressing a point of view not everyone needs to understand where you're coming from or your reason that not everyone deserves that type of engagement that time to really explore and think together and come to you know a shared vision. There are things that are just functional tasks activities you know very short time time limits on them and there are experiences or relationships that are going to go forward a lot longer and I think that's where it's more important I guess to to get that shared understanding Frew the question in but if you're. Go into you know residential schools mean if you're going on a residential for 3 weeks and you're with other children and the whole idea is you're going to learn team building skills and communication skills and have these funny you know challenging experiences that going to push you out of your comfort zone that's not the time the place to be question why do I have to do this but you don't miss your look in the water it's free it's just not appropriate in that 3 we're going to waste the 3 weeks for this conversation has been very middle class middle class has been missing then we have very middle class even the anecdotes of sharing. But I'm leaving myself out of this because p.v.c. Presents as you know tickles she. Plays in very middle class so nice letting us know what you mean by middle class well I'll explain myself by taking it to the street you know what I mean I know exactly what you mean you sure you know I absolutely know each other absolutely good because what do you do there and what do you do when your child remember you telling your child to stand up for themselves or Yes yes tell me to stand up for themselves yeah yeah Stan of his oh so when the child that I am most a teacher pick your battles you pick your bowels domo this is a big big Basle it's a battle for the planet the we're talking about and we're going out on the streets to protests to protest more in a polite way Jan No in the polite way that you said who you know be careful how you say things or what you say but how you say thing in the middle class way that we've been doing but we're going out to protest. For the cause of saving the planet would you vend say to your daughter well I've taught my daughter and I continue to teach her that there are consequences to everything and some are good and some are bad and so in that situation yes stand up for yourself or stand up for your rights stand up for your beliefs however understands the knock on effects of you potentially having a criminal record you love to travel is that going to stop you from going to say in countries that you like to visit be mindful that it's not you can live in the moment which is what we want everyone to be more mindful and experience the here and now however recognize that you have a long life touchwood ahead of you and what you do now could potentially affect how you can function so what you basically said your daughters don't go no I'm not I'm saying No I'm saying it's your choice it's not a choice but to recognize that there are implications for every decision that you make but you're telling her basically if you go protests you might end up with a criminal record that's a negative statement it's not a protest because you might save the planet you're saying protests but you might end up with a criminal run no I'm just saying that you know in terms of you suggest in the aggressiveness the hostility the you know the heavy foot you know campaign in that's fine that's fine however there will be consequences and so long as you know what they are it's all about making informed decisions whatever decision you make is your choice you know that and I think that that is entirely up to my daughter but I want her in every step of life to make informed decisions no disrespect I'm going to turn to Jen who may have had experience with this already I wonder have you when a child come up to you and is going on a protest would you say it came up. It did not Lynn initially want to go but she has missed a lot of school so we said no how has it been since number and greeted timbers with a lot of schools for different reasons that I tell you what I think about this teenage protest and the school strikes I think if the end result is that people pay more attention and that things change and we perhaps end up with a healthy a planet than great if it comes to teenagers dictating what we should do I think that needs to be more caution it's opens discussion fantastic if people take it seriously and then do something about it fantastic but if they if we let adults are deciding the rules I think the or or what we're about to do I think we're in danger of figure out saying that they don't have the life experiences and they don't have as much ability to get the wider consequences that adults might So I think as a tool to open discussion it's fantastic but passions run very high and I think we're in danger of letting teenagers dictate what must be and there I'm a little bit cautious yes we want some advice from any parents out there Brule so any adults who obviously with children of one point or other how did your parents then react to you 1st of all talking to them in any way they wanted and how would they reacted if you suggested that you would go on a protest 080-859-0969 extension 3 call he very kindly tells us he's very nearly 50. 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I don't know about you but I never heard that from a child before a child saying to adults how did a year. But what's wrong with that. Hundreds of 100008085909693 you can text as an 85 or 5 and or e-mail up for night at b.b.c. Talk to you can you can tweet b.b.c. 5 live as well and the broader question of protest. The broader question of protest climate change protest obviously is the order of the day and the protesters get younger and younger and younger and younger and younger. Well if children can talk to adults in any way they like including their parents their work their parents do to even stop them going on protests or to the voices of not to go to protests or did to read in the Rye attitudes of him as as though daughter Ok you can go on the protest but there are consequences you might end up with a criminal record. Navigator and he had that conversation you saw any such conversation to listen so what should we say when went cold says and calls 950 less of a guy called says who is a child who's an adult it's not as obvious as just saying if you're over 16 or 18 is it Gen. No I don't think it is click that. In general yes you'd like to think that by a teen people all grown up enough to belong in the adult world space but doesn't always work like that and when you're younger. Passions run very high and then no way. The no always coupled with. Experience and sure yeah and I and sometimes not even logical I think that occasionally Well I think that children do you have points to say and things to say and things there's Joe right and correct but at the end of the day it. I think what I think where I draw the line is decision making so. Yes. You know on a $1.00 to $1.00 level I would expect a bit of politeness on a protest level yes stand up and say what you've got to say but it's not you that's going to make the rules here it's not easy. Change anything and you can make us listen old you can and hopefully open a discussion and a serious one between adults who can make these decisions see children protest from very early on and I think has been you know quietly protest in in the home for about 3 years and you haven't stopped or it started well no it started with every cycle in so I would you know discard a bit you know post it know and she'd say Mummy wrong been. You know and I've now got into a habit of recycling really really well because of hair and so you know that question about his the child and he added I don't really know what it means because as far as I'm concerned my daughter has probably been my biggest teacher in many ways. All the skills that I had had you know set of missed confidence and I feel that they have been magnified because of her I am deaf I would definitely stand my ground way more from standing up for her. In a way that maybe I would not have done so so aggressively if it was just you know defending my own right before she came along I did and that's just in a change I've noticed myself but here's the child news the adult my mom will in her seventy's I'm in my thirty's will always remind me that I am still the child even when I'm trying to. Teach her new ways she takes on board in dribs and drabs what I think as parents sometimes who is a little bit resistant sometimes to that his lesson learned or you know his lesson that it just get on board my can reading reminds us that David Cameron for prime minister of. David Cameron once said something who've had a few prime ministers since. Clarified by the people listening to the country that long or otherwise every David Cameron once said suddenly the offer rings true says Mark in reading he said the offer we as in society treats children as adults and we treat. Children So you see it's not so clear. In the home quite apart from society. Part quote apart from society what's it like when that relationship is turned on its head clear that you treat your daughter who is 8 years old like an adult don't you. In some ways but not in all ways so I treat you like a child mummy that's wrong been put in there I don't see that as her treating me like a child I see have to talk to her No I think that's her reminded me of the things that you know I should be doing that would help a few basic She's not your friend is she she's your daughter I don't need that information necessarily for my friend my daughter isn't within her rights to reminds me to recycle know she's within her rights to get the piece of paper that you put the wrong b. To pluck it and put it in the right bin that's what my father would have said before him so you can't just old school and case a school or school that thing about you know. Talking to adults like children while you're age does not determine what wisdom I've definitely learnt that you should talk to children as children. Or you mean older children and taught Ok So from a very early age it's really interesting and I never did that Guga nonsense of my daughter I spoke to her from an f. When I was breastfeeding my don't bite that hurts and I spoke to her like I would speak to an adult. And I think that by you mind her the riot act is still a baby do you know what I mean you taught her baby appropriately she's a baby you talk to an adolescent appropriate. Talk to a teen age appropriate sitter but never ever talk to them as an arrow because in an adult I think you've got to talk to individuals and give them you know that you respect you need to you know ascertain what type of communication style is best for the person that you're talking to and what ability what's their comprehension level I think you need to take this thing. Into account do we do we need to take those things into account all just children's children the children that yes they are. Driven surely but don't think just because their children than necessarily need the riot act reading to them every time they do something are every time the question something I think you have to speak to them. On a level which they can understand so when they're 3 years old and you've put your fire on because it's winter and you say don't touch it's hot and you have to be quite firm about it because it's hard and it will hurt and that's what you have to say Surely when they're older you can say well you don't want to burn yourself you know it's just because it's you your language changes as they grow a new manager changes as they grow and then it regresses somewhat when they're teenagers and then and then they come back again. And I do think that there is a huge difference between. Claire's daughter saying oh that's the wrong bed and Claire letting her. Daughter be the adult of the house I think that's that's quite a leap from one. One position to the other just because her daughter right remind her of something that she's supposed to be doing now and again because we all remind each other of things and occasionally my kids are my me to do something I have genuinely forgotten and I and save the day yeah of course you know . I've had don't think allowing them to speak or question is them being the adult I think that occasionally Well more than occasionally you do see children that bust their parents around. But those are the children that seem to have no discipline there are very rude the people there the children the good influence your children to start calling you by your 1st name or whatever the only influence my children have been actually they would not say to a child like that I don't think I think they would say they're so rude yet how did you see Madeline's done it my youngest has done it as well did you hear how they spoke to their parents you'd never let me speak like that you know the 1st no . No no but it's not come up see I used to mess around a lot with my mom and call her by her 1st name really Err yes I did I don't know do you now. But your mom's African Yeah I'm very very strict and actually can also still alive I don't know I mean again it's the way you talk to your parents and my mom knows when I call it by her 1st name why I'm 10 and that's a police officer I'm like come on now Come on woman you know. Leave me alone you know that kind of thing but. I know generally you can see the look of yes I think it's very rare in our community because my sisters. And I we all we all call our own you know not all of the time but we def me address them by their name 1st names when. I mean they know our past manatees Doughton you know my dad raised you know with my mom free gals my mom's very matriarchal it's alright it's alright so I would never allow anyone else to spite their face. Called my father's older brother threw me out of his house had nowhere else to go when our 1st words Nigeria the age of 71st time since I'd left I had nowhere else to go literally threw me out my hat is house into the wilderness because I called him Uncle because that's his 1st name caller it was he's late now and he was concerned because he's my father's old the brother I'm not allowed to call him by his 1st I'm not even allowed to know what his 1st name is shrouded in mystery you see or the pretense of mystery so I should call him as the father of is eldest child so I should really call him Pat Power Food me live your right was the right way to now. Cool uncle. But for ever but he's not a I'd literally a globe smacked gobsmacked but I wouldn't I wouldn't do that in front of. The know what my 1st name ease how do you know. But. I am also trying to. Set some cultural interest practices that I don't think a helpful in this day and age so the way I was raised to call everyone on teen uncle every one on t. And uncle until Uncle to me comes with a title comes with a sentimental respect I don't want my daughter calling everyone to an uncle not everyone in our community is had cousin and now I am it's excess a tricky word here is a tricky one but I definitely think it's something that I have to do with have. To have to allow them to call the Ok. Marco in Heathrow's says. Child isn't the right word to use for someone of 16 pushing on 17 it's entirely different gear saying how dare you to adults in a political speech from a chair old rudely saying it. I still don't get why because if the demarcation is I agree there's a gap between a and 16 but we're still calling them children in the eyes of society if it's Ok for an 8 year old or 16 year old to say how dare you to an adult wasn't Ok for you no I don't think it is Ok in a one to one or every day situation I think the point about ag Russia is she had got a platform to speak to some incredibly powerful and influential people and she was going to use that to full effect and she's a very very passionate very single minded young woman and I think that she probably knew she would shock people she probably knew it would get people talking because it is. Unusual and I think that he wanted the exposure for it I'm not telling you wanted to show I'm not sure it's so unusual Sweden by the way but hold that thought for brining Darbyshire want to join in the conversation Brian good morning good morning doesn't how you very well and thank you for joining in the conversation even though the gender balance somewhat but thank you for supporting me and being a mile behind me backing me up on everything I've said so far or maybe not. Well boldly yes because a single The difference is one of responsibility my perspective is that of a professional educator I worked in schools for 30 years. And because an educator has responsibility for a child you know that's where the phrase in loco parentis comes from Therefore you can never be strictly speaking an equal because your responsibility for that child is the appropriate adult is absolute whereas they have no responsibility for you whatsoever. Now in my opinion Bessel childhood is to be enjoyed on that basis that kids should enjoy their childhood precisely because they don't have that responsibility but to give a child an alleged child the impression as some parents did. They all recall 2 adults and that they should speak to professional adults dealing with them as if they are an equal that is where the problems lie in my opinion so broadly speaking yes and I'm backing your your stance which is that adults in order to accept their responsibilities should ask children to remember that they don't have the same as but a lesser responsibility that we have the Brian I really admire and it's really refreshing to hear. You know an educator say that children should enjoy the child had you know without response ability in a sense however for many children many many children. They do have a lot of responsibility I use to at 9 years old go to the bank for my mom and do her banking and that was me back then there were many children who are you know translators for their parents you know I've definitely met parents who couldn't speak English and that child is the moderator there are children who a care in for parents and caring for youngest siblings and have you know I had to make sure that you know might buy things that had been a before my parents got home and I was maybe 1213 so. I guess there was a lot of discipline in my home but I think in this day in a different child had the amount of responsibility that I had I'm sure that they would be way more outspoken the night with. On how the met and worked with some of the kind of children you describe and I can only speak to my own experience but my experience is that children who are in the situation when you work with them in schools are often the most respectful to adults the most deferential it's it's often kids who don't have that kind of experience but have been told at home will stand up for your rights and that it's often those. Students that cause the problems because they have no idea of where the boundaries are 12 and they think they're Superman and in my experience I can speak to my experience and I have worked in London I was in on for 30 years I worked in some of the most deprived areas of London and some of the toughest schools in London and my experience tells me the students who were causing issues with the stuff were not the kind of kids you described they were the ones who were quite serious who took their education seriously who would you know just be fine with you my experience is that the students who were were sort of causing the issues the students who didn't know where the boundaries. Were often those who were such a spoiled cosseted given every saying. And told every day what this so-called rights were but nobody had ever told them actually which highlights come responsibilities so you ended up with a minority students and I stress it's a minority who need all their rights but refuse to take any responsibility even any responsibility for their own behavior and and unfortunately there is now an epidemic of this and it's because we've given a generation of children the impression that I housed the same rights as adults without any any responsibilities and we are currently reaping the bad effects of that and I've seen this in schools myself I think you really have introduced a point of clarity into the conversation how do we go a couple questions for the farmer and had an agenda a few questions over Brom to bear with me how do we 1st of all put responsibility there where it's absent right. If you mean responsibility for a child's behavior No no I was thinking how do you instil really you talked about children knowing their rights but having no sense of the responsibility comes of rights and you gave the analogy or the comparison with children who may have responsibilities of being a carer or otherwise I just want to without. Forcing or what without trying to solve it in him put responsibility where there is none already but it is a way that we can give children a sense of responsibility so the when they go to school they're not the ones that badly behaved but that they want to learn and don't take school for granted and so on and in parenting is there any kind of responsibility that children we should be imparting to children that we're not at the moment. The kind of responsibility that colleague was was talking about of course is something that as she rightly says children do end up taking responsibilities on. You know that we would not wish them to have exactly what I think I think voters are a minority of cases I think that the borderline between rights and responsibilities is something that's become blurred and it's the result of a generation of parenting by people who in some cases are reluctant to acknowledge that they are adults themselves so the kind of students that I think have problems in school sometimes students who've been given the impression that their parents are not their parents that their parents are somehow some kind of you know friend who's a bit older or something and if that's the parenting style I can tell you that that kid then has enormous problems adjusting to the fact that someone else has the right sometimes within reason to tell them what to do about the very concept is a real problem to some children because of the way that they've been raised that straight I remember my mom I'm not that means that the real world when it comes will hit the market on the bricks because in education if you're not allowed if you don't have the will 30 to question that mentality and you have to just contain it which is what educators now have today. Then you know I thought occasion to say just children's Well look I'm paid to tolerate your rudeness but I am telling you but if you said what you've just said to me to somebody on the street they would want you are well you're not paid to tolerate nobody's rudeness and so far as what I said Well as I said to them I said that to them as a tactic to try to make them think in other words my my lying to them was well I thought I accepted his job so. You know yes you've just been extremely rude to me I can alter as a fashion educator let you know. On a street level just to reduce pain because of course I wouldn't want to do that and I get fired. Jenny wants to come in on the night but my line was that I'm telling you I mean forming you for your benefit in fear information that if you behave that way to somebody you didn't know on the street there are parts of the city where you would reap the consequences for that and I don't want you to come to harm therefore I'm telling you what you've just done and also that is incredibly rare and you need to know that you know I say that out of a desire to be helpful that are very much out of line to the other if you know what I was great and then hold on I'll get your thoughts in a moment or 2 very quickly Brian if your students came soon said we're going on a climate change process we're taking responsibility for the planet would you say yes or no would you support them and. Ethically yes I would absolutely and there's a distinction between. The 25 percent of. The plane for. This c.b.c. Radio 5 live good morning this is a. Nice price it talks continue in Brussels later as a pastor said there's still a big gap on the issue of customs arrangements and in sports Wales are held by the World Cup finalists in Cardiff and rains goals at Hampden Park. This is b.b.c. 5. Drugs and the u.k. Has dropped a key Bracks it's a man's the tiny details should include a veto for politicians in Northern Ireland to prevent arrangements coming into force their government sources insist they're still looking for a mechanism to give the people of Northern Ireland a greater say correspondent Chris Butler says it significant props the government the British government moved on this and some why and said we are looking for some way of ensuring that more than those of consent can essentially buy into this idea of whatever it's going to be a single market or some kind of. Aston's arrangement the government says the Queen's speech will include measures to help the u.k. 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Teams on the ground telling me that their worst fears are coming to pass that there are war crimes against civilians but also that the winners out of this look like the Islamic state group ISIS and the us government a teenage boy and a man have been stabbed in separate incidents in north London both attacks happened in top know and the victims are now in hospital police have been authorized to extend stop and search powers in the area the funeral takes place later of p.c. 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