It was on leadership Mr Kennett Square sorry we voted Labor all our lives but we convert few. Jeremy Coburn as your leader. On bricks that they didn't often on the stand why we were not prepared to respect the result of the referendum and leave the European Union with a deal that protected jobs and livelihood something I've been arguing for for 3 years and on the economy there was a feeling that there was a scatter gun approach we need to be a party that can reconnect with all working class hearkens Well longstanding Labor m.p. Yvette Cooper was re-elected but had this to say about labor on Twitter she said a day on and this feels even worse families with kids who are going hungry really needed a strong Labor Party and Labor government and they've been let down we owe it to them to sort our selves out and votes back one of the people who lost in this election is Ruth's me she lost her Stoke on Trent seat on Thursday night the Tories it's been held by Labor since 950 and she's with us along with Elena Penney who is a writer and editor at Novara media which has been campaigning for labor Good morning raising Good morning Ana Good morning at running right I'm going to ask you both this question because I suspect it's one that you've asked yourselves a lot over the last 24 hours and so what went wrong Ruth I think Stephen tacks on asis is absolutely spot on with the addition of the night before she was I being viewed as a racist policy in this election which was also raised on the doorstep need be and as we have to do so that I'd hope she has a huge amount to teach reconnects to rebuild trust with those people that we were a breach in the established represents is a devastating day not for that I propose for the communities that we want to represent child poverty motions to 42 percent those people long to have a not to cut slashing Fullam I have a conservative got Council to have a conservative member on and they have a Conservative government and I'm leaving I think she's fought and I like. Anna what went wrong I mean I completely agree with Rick this is a a really heartbreaking result I made there was going to be have I was there. Over the next 5 years that we need to be very seriously thinking about how we come back . I think that yes there are absolutely issues as leadership that we shouldn't shy away from here but I think the picture is somewhat more complicated than that because clearly there has been redrawn the field actual maps and a kind of. Pain to go to the key constituencies of the Labor Party because the Labor Party's actually increase is. Better vote compared to say 20 his team and 2005 it was of course was a victory and has increased. Voter turnout among. I think minorities among young people who also you know the heart of the Labor Party I think is today I do think that one of the issues was as I encountered on the doorstep of many of the people paid. A lack of clarity over the position now I'm not sure how necessarily that could have been counted. Because of course if one were to go hard to remain as you many people high up in the Labor Party were advocating and who have been absolutely program afraid in the past few days how would that. Get done anything other than government and even worse result in both parties are involved in places like this and of course in places like can drink and shipping gone it will be marginal. The Lib Dems were able to kind of cool key votes away from the Labor Party because they were seen to not support remain enough but for me the thing that would have possibly broken through that kind of target is to really pose the Labor Party as the anti-establishment vote which I don't think we were able to catch the truth why did you laugh. I laugh because I think. Extraordinary. We have always been into kind of action we have always been the posse of nice people who have been disillusioned for the main part has been disenfranchised from the conservative party we have been the we have always been the policy of the on the joke fighting for then the only day that we've been one halt to Kurdish and so the alpha is anathema to me I think it's a complete describes we I mean I don't know what you said you still represents and seek to represent those places that we were in Britain and the established by the fact that the kind that we had inside Christian Bronner that we can so Christ in swathes of the country we've got now places in some of the NJ waves which in normal times would be a marginal seat scarring school which we buy and have a Labor party are all part to government which is what I propose he is there to do is now send them away then it's been a slow in my last tour yeah was I now this is the worst result for the night of yes since 993 and that's why some margin we also do far away from government in stunt this campaign this leadership this idea to engage with the electorate and the n.s.a. And yes it is price it but it wasn't just bricks and well it was about Iraq after said it can I ask you Elena because the point is isn't it that you could have you can have the ideals that you want to have you can have great ideals you know you've got momentum saying we're not going anywhere this is the way things are going to be but you know you could be our seat you could be out of government for for a generation potentially you know how on earth are you going to make the Labor Party electable again. Ok so I think there are a couple of issues here what to impact on the talk about electability what is the the platform and a manifesto I think we need to be very clear on the fact that the manifesto itself in the policy. Was actually. People didn't vote for Al No they didn't vote you know he lost you know those that he just weighed I don't know anything that's let me just take expect like the policies polled highly consistently However when I was told and to be learned this was a story that was instructive in many other people's experiences and also in a long term structural trend is that it is a story of a lack of trust in our politics and that is something that is what not going to be so in the 6 weeks that we had to try to try and reestablish trust in politics and that is a stunning lack of trust on your ledger as well yes of course the nie that story that goes back to back through austerity by their complete. Gutting about social about social infrastructure the cutting of union and through the continue the trial of the electorate that goes back through the austerity at the same sort of let that be the Iraq war this kind of thing and these are issues that we need to start rebuilding and not going into looking going into all communities not just 6 weeks before the election but constantly getting out that on time I think people I am I am sorry but the Iraq war was in 2004 we won the 2005 general election and we won it in a way that I think you know you don't which you telling me you wouldn't want the size of the majority during which much to do there's a real train truck constituents I mean tons of almost Jimmy Carter in tons all the doorstep has returned my has been my do you are campaign every weekend that I go seek out so much of the actions. This election. And can mean you see. Champions in the most part in huge swathes of the country I just lost the courage because of all self-indulgence this is a conversation with genuine need to need to heard what is the point of the labor kosi one of all good. It says that we can see the full government not to be a party of protests these are we build trust we reconnect with the communities that we were established to protect and. There is no actual value to the Labor Party. And I can I can I just ask you both this question before we move on Elena should German Cuban have stood up yesterday morning and said I resign. I mean I think there is a key that we have a change of leadership I like I don't think that Jim Covance leadership is tenable going forward and I think there were key key issues in which the leadership was not clear enough and was also not bold enough in putting themselves as someone who was not just starting to give us nice things but someone who was going to fight an austerity fight elite was corrupt but he was standing against working people and guys. I don't think in this because they started the titular time because Johnny French 1st deadline is coming up so quickly I don't think the Labor Party actually has time to run a leadership campaign right now but I do I do absolutely think Jeremy Corbin should step down in the near future I'm sure he apologised should be will enjoy It's about making for making a mess of this election and I just don't think that's necessarily on him like if he . Doesn't like I think that he is the sole architect of this I mean I think he clearly expressed regret that it doesn't it hasn't gone our way and I think that's absolutely something that he should do because you know he does bear responsibility for those key choices but I just don't think that that's. The question we should be asking ourselves is how do we call recrimination on head of or not how do we collectively come together and figure out how do we gain the trust. We've that we've clearly failed to regain from decades of public disenfranchisement with the entire political party that Labor voters didn't actually tell that good for something only increased as I shared by one point something that the real story is labor if I could thank God I'm Ok Right find a way to you roots me at what point do you want to see Jeremy Coleman resign and who is going to replace him germy to mention of last Jeremy wanted to set action it was on Jeremy's manifesto Jeremy Steyn. Is Jeremy running the action and of that style so miserably and it's been Jeremy this file to rebuild trust the reason why argument Ray is to find something like a Saturday have read. About who is only 60 going forward but Jeremy shouldn't be commiseration a nor frankly should he's in the taking there is a conversations be has about the culture is that I say about who we are who we seek to represent and what happens next and frankly in the us the strong voices during the life of most people do even more so the next time around and just very briefly both you should should should we see an end to all the kind of divisions all the name calling the tendency for people. Your point of view to you know just just to dismiss people who supported the Blair government as we said you know the Labor policy which won 3 successive general elections should you stop shouting at people and calling them red tories and things like that is it time to come together because otherwise you know how you have going to win. I mean I I think you are explaining this is a time of seeing the reflection I think we do need to look at both the successes and the failures of the back of my guess is partly election but those were we have a key creasing 5 share in those territory for the kind of destruction that we are experiencing I would also need to look at where they were successful I do. It's like name calling is the issue here I think that is a much for the story a fun read write and army here as excited aren't He tiny and as Dido knocking strategy during the elections are stink that this is the right format so this conversation however unlike the post only succeeds when it has an offering to the public and he's huge as a united policy I think we have some way to go before then we'll have we'll have a responsibility to come forward otherwise it's not suffer don't have all these people call me it's my constituents who now have a conservative m.p. Who had no connection with my city for this year who are now going to struggle so this is all responsibilities of the country not a politician thank you both very much indeed and in the Penny who is a writer and editor at Novara media and Ruth me the former m.p. For Stoke on Trent it's a 17 this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on digital b.b.c. Sound small street you don't the b.b.c. News website sometimes I just have a quick glance see what was there and what the most read things are all the most watched things you got the videos haven't you and I thought one of his win to win the election. Something to do is strictly may because this is strictly for. Eagle attacks octopus is the most well watched video if you like what's on the b.b.c. News website it's a strange an eagle caught up in a in a fight scrap with an octopus which is something you don't see every day in British Columbia and there's a video of crews freeing the from the clutches of the sea creature. And we have extraordinary I think I had my marionettes Eagle attacks octopus probably regrets it exactly I'm sure every day but I look at it if i really is now going to see these website having a look at let's look at the focus for the day and. If you go into the shops you have my career is a rationed but stabbed How's it going to be looking for people today thank you God Good morning chair it's a very mixed weekend pretty calm. Actually quite breezy will be some showers but also some sunshine in between to start with Scotland Northern Ireland stay fresh Westway in the spring scattered showers of rain also quite a bit of cloud through the day on and off some of the showers will be when Cho for the hills. Will be logicality but there will be some glimmers of sunshine around particular Northern Ireland and eastern parts of Scotland is going to be culled for scholar Northern Ireland temperatures the $2.00 to $6.00 degrees out on the way to feel cold England Wales also breezy we need to be very windy across the southwest quadrant of the country on through the Channel Islands mixture of sunshine and scattered showers this morning mainly across central and western areas but into the afternoon looks sunny so not too bad although the winds will be fairly fresh from the west as we end the day looks like next batch of showers along squalls rain when I arrive across England and Wales through the evening it is going to be pretty windy today high sitting with 6 to 10 degrees of his weather thanks very much and they. Were getting away over Christmas which must be a nice think at the packing. Market Deeping we are driving to Spain for winter tomorrow back in April 2020. Get. Picked up from uni. As. They do have washing machines. After the well. What's now the election is going to get. Get blanked over with. This is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on the b.b.c. Sound Saturday Breakfast I. Listened. In on Downing Street yesterday I think King those who voted Conservative and appealing for healing from those who didn't. Vote for us for the 1st time those whose pencils may have wavered over the ballot. And you heard the voices of their parents and their grandparents whispering anxiously in their areas I say thank you for the trust you have placed in us and in me and we will work round the clock to repay your trust and to deliver on your priorities with a parliament that works for you and then I want to speak all say to those who did not vote for us over me and you wanted and perhaps still want to remain in the e.u. And I want you to know that we in this One Nation Conservative government will never ignore you good and positive feelings of warmth and sympathy towards the other nations of Europe because now he's the moment precisely as we leave the e.u. To let those not true feelings find renewed expression in building a new partnership. Which is one of the great projects for next year and as we work together with the e.u. As friends and sovereign equals tackling climate change and terrorism in building academic and scientific cooperation redoubling our trading relationship . I frankly everyone on either side of water after 3 years 3 off years through an increasingly average argument I urge everyone to find closure and to let the healing begin so as Boris Johnson yesterday on these steps of Downing Street will speak off the hall fetes will kind of have a little dig beneath some of the electoral numbers to find out what won the election for the Tories how the conservatives go to write or speak to Professor Matthew Goodwin it was his stuff and sometimes think responses from you in the text as well says the interviews with an opinion raised me just after 8 o'clock pm says Ruth's meet there are thousands of us who feel anger and frustration mocking Ken says the Labor Party and Blair attracting conservative voters while Labor on the Coleman has created conservative voters and this one from a can move in labor arguing on your program is hilarious they should be in government but your guess got it right they are posse of protest only Tony Blair has won an election for Labor in 50 years until they re and brace those politics they will never win Yeah Ok keep those coming on I 505 I and this is more like it from Joan as well thank you for this text rather than getting the paperwork done and getting the tax returns done that we found this one today I'm getting my annual book club bottomless brunch done. More in my. Teen minutes of discussions and then with the hash browns Marcus rash would will help seal a special moment in manchester united history tomorrow when all are going to socials side take on Everton it will be the 4th out of the 4th 1000th even. Consecutive. United's match day squad has contained a player that they have developed in their youth set up 5 last football reporter Simon Stone has spoken to him and he's with us now hello Simon Good morning good morning here could speak he what was he like. These is quiet Marcus rush but I'm not sure he I'm not sure is quiet in a dressing room and I'm not sure he's quiet when when he's with his mates but when he's talking to the media result was very quiet you've got to listen quite intently to what he's got to say. But yeah it's a fantastic achievement for Manchester United and he's obviously the the latest in a long line of high profile football players that have come through this academy do you think he chose is one of those people he chooses their words carefully or do you get the feeling he was you know being able to express himself as much as he wanted to because I'm just saying you know we sort of pick up on every last word that these people cite we don't hear from them so often. I mean he's he's 2022 years of age so you know how how I don't know how confident you would have been speaking to the media at 22 years of age feeling small comfort and Marcus Rushford but maybe wouldn't be quite as good at football as a way. I mean I think it's still a little bit intimidating for him to be facing cameras to be facing people with Dictaphones. But he's getting more used to it now and certainly for wind the clock back. You know 20 years to when the cost of not to come through Ryan Giggs for for instance strikes Ferguson was notorious for keeping him away from the media early in his career so I think he certainly more comfortable than Giggs was at the same age but that doesn't mean to say he's come comfortable So how did this all come about then and what about this 4000 consecutive time they marched a squad has had a player from the youth set up and so on yeah well that's why the the interview was done because Manchester United celebrating this remarkable achievement and it was honest by 2 football historians Tony park and Steve Hogan and it goes back to the 30th of October in. $137.00 and $2.00 guys called Tom Manley and Jackie was all who who started this incredible run will be full 1000 games when Manchester United play against and that's and tomorrow and every single game within their much day squad there's been a home grown player and only going to sell showing was speaking to him after he sided beat and he said I'll come out on Thursday said that death record will definitely happen because he didn't have enough players to pick a side that doesn't include homegrown players that's where munches tonight and yes Marcus Rushford is